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- Nick Wright talks LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers. Find out why he is so impressed with 'The King' this season.
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Nick Wright lays out the facts around LeBron's incredible season | THE HERD
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Is this the best season of LeBron's NBA career?
Colin Cowherd definitely 100%
SmartBaller 1 12-13 is better
Colin Cowherd tell skip Bayless he's loco in the head for going nuclear on the LeBron hmmmm his whole career
Not even close. 2008-9 and 2012-3 are two of the top 5 individual seasons in the last 20 years.
Colin these discussions lose credibility when you let Nick Wright speak. He has no objectivity!!
it's so refreshing to see people like nick and Collin showing love for LeBrons greatness since it seems everybody else hates
Funny how you if you lay out facts about Lebron James you're automatically labeled a "bronsexual". What do you want him to do? Lie about Lebron's stats?
NBAbram Not lie about the first half of the season and pretend like he didn’t get an entirely new roster because he wasn’t cutting it with the team he had.
Soji SideQuest that comment was a year ago dude
@TheRealist 811 Calls someone a liar has no proof of the lie lol just says do research. Why would I need do research on something I believe is a fact. You are the one saying its not a fact so please document your research debunking him.
It don’t be facts though. All he talks is numbers. By his logic Westbrook has been better than him the last few years now
Right he spitting all facts
Forget the LeBron haters. I love this.
Nick Wright ALWAYS ON THE MONEY LOVE THIS GUY
this is too fact filled for most ppl. I'm not a LBJ or Cavs fan but I respect him and his game. He's the KING.
Well, I'm officially exhausted.
Nick Vs Skip set this up
Steven Nunez that would be a debate for the ages lol
LeBron is the greatest player that ever played this game not MJ
He spitting facts if yall dont agree you're hating
Stats without context don't tell the entire story
Creative sports journalism is turning into politics...half truths and spin
@Dwayne Chess
Yup, pretty much. It's to the point where you can just throw some random stats on a board, presented without any context...and claim that its "facts" that support your point.
It's never the full tale
So it was fact that Nick Wright said the Warriors won't win the 1st seed back a month ago?
W!!!
Guy gives facts and you still hate LeBron smh
Jeffrey Anthony lebron mvp facts 😕 wtf harden team has more win without love and kyrie
Barely
Yeah but they have had injuries in and out of Line up and new player's. But I get whst you are saying
john amos Lebrons 2012-2013 MVP season is miles more impressive then what Westbrook is doing. Lebron averaged 29/7/8 on 56% from the field and 40% from 3, all while leading his team on the longest win streak in NBA history in 27 games and also finished 66-16. This year Westbrook is averaging 30/10/10 on 40% from the field and like 30% from 3. Is going to set a NBA record for turnovers in a season with 450+. While being the 6th seed and not even gonna win 50!games. Also KDs 2013-2014 MVP season was better then Westbrook this season. Lebrons 08-09 season was better then this Westbrook season. Hop off west brooks nuts he's overrated. Lmao he averages 7.7 uncontested rebounds. The guy doesn't even play defense
john amos we have always used efficiency. 06 Kobe was insane but incredibly inefficient. Harden in 2015.
He may be a fanboy but he isnt lying
If LeBron James does not win a ring this year... Nick Wright is gonna cry in the car. (Chris Tucker voice)
Iamir Jacen nah he will be like "Lebron is a 3x champion ,he went there 7 years in a row Colin ,he's just letting the other player get theirs he knows he can win anytime he wants but all he cares about is passing Jordan on the leader boards "
No G-man, if Nick Wright is allowed to continually pass himself off as an objective journalist and sports prognosticator then yes our planet would be devoid of hope. But as it seems, he has and will continue with his banality. So I'm guessing hopelessness has already befallen the so-called 'Flat Earth'.
Iamir Jacen lol backwards thinking...he just balances out skips fuckery.....the truth lies somewhere in the middle....
Iamir Jacen Chris Tucker voice? All these Lebron fans are like 8 years old
Iamir Jacen teams win
LBJ still legend
Damn, people in the comments can't handle facts 😂😂😂
Anthony McNeil nvm it was gman who posted it not u. seems we totally disagree actually. nvm
G-man amen amen amen
The fact that even at the BEST in his career he isnt having a better season than West or Harden and Kawhais team has 60 wins while he is avg comparable stats to LBJ while being the favorite to be DPOY. Even at his best they have inferior records to 2 of the MVP candidates and may not even finish first in the east but Bronsexuals get to make up their own stats. Its the 2016-1017 MVP not lifetime achievement award
Rayshawn Hampton What are you even talking about? Nick clearly gave you stats that showed that the Cavs are worse without LeBron than the Spurs without Kawhi. We may all have our different interpretation of the MVP but it's clear that LeBron's value is one of a greater importance. You can disagree, fine. Nobody is taking away from what Harden and Westbrook are doing, my comment didn't even mention them. It's clear you have a different view of the MVP and that's fine.
Your comment was people cant handle facts, which facts though? How is Lebrons value than a 56 team win with no All Stars or a OKC team where russ accounts for over 50% of their points. He also used a direct comparison of statistics between Kawahi and LBJ but if you did the same exact thing with LBJ and the other 2 then doesnt that show LBJ isnt better then the other 2 guards. Its unfair to say Cle is x-x without LBJ when they rest him and Hou and OKC dont rest Harden and West. Men lie women lie but numbers dont, in the 2016-2017 season he isnt the most valuable player
Colin is the Anti-Skip Bayless
Nick's simply stating FACTS
I'm not a Lebron fan, but even I have to give it up to Nick here. Lebron SHOULD be the MVP this year. Let's run down all the major ways we measure this kind of thing:
1) Take Lebron off the Cavs? They're a lottery team. This is not speculation--they were a lottery team before he returned to Cleveland. You can't count Love because HE CAME TO CLEVELAND TO PLAY WITH LEBRON. Kyrie wasn't enough to bring the Cavs to the playoffs.
2) Leadership? It's Lebron hands down. He's even picking guys to come play with him, and they are more than willing to come.
3) Wins? Neither Westbrook nor Harden are going to be the #1 seed in their conference. We can talk about how much the Cavs "sucked" lately, but the fact remains the Cavs will be in this year's Finals and those other 2 guys will be home watching on TV.
4) By the numbers? This is the only area where people might have a case. It's arguable that Westbrook and Harden are having better statistical years. But Lebron is obviously not trying to pad his numbers like Westbrook and Harden are. And he's not that far behind... 26 8 and 8? Pretty amazing. It's obvious Lebron is prioritizing winning a championship over padding his own stats. Since every coach and GM in the league have stated that is their goal too, I can only assume that a player with Lebron's priorities is more valuable to his franchise than, well, every other player in the league.
So why are we putting 3 or 4 guys ahead of Lebron in this MVP discussion? I don't even like Lebron, and even I have to concede that of course Lebron is the MVP this season. And yes, averaging a triple double is amazing but is anyone really going to try to convince me Westbrook is more valuable to his team than Lebron is to his? Just the difference in +/- alone should inform us better. No, let's not be silly here.
Qichar the Cavs are waaay better than the thunder or rockets without the three were discussing. In fact I believe the Cavs are in the playoffs with a 4-6 seed, and if they didn't get love they would have Wiggins who most people would agree is even better. rockets and thunder are left with rosters full of role players
Qichar No just no. The fact that both Harden and Westbrook are dragging their teams to the playoffs with no other all star putting up better numbers than LeBron should be enough.
Let me put this in perspective for you guys. Pretend we are all GMs in the league. You guys can have Harden and Westbrook, and I'll take Lebron.
That's how I define value.
Qichar lmao we talking about this season
+Carlos Delgado
That's exactly what I'm talking about--this season. I'm a GM, I want to win a championship this season, I'm taking Lebron. Not Harden, and DEFINITELY NOT Westbrook.
Westbrook isn't the guy who takes your team to an NBA Finals and wins it all. He's the guy who reverts to hero ball under pressure and shoots your team out of it. These are FACTS, not opinion. These are things Westbrook has done, and KD saw, and that's why KD is in Golden State now. How many years was KD going to sit around waiting for Westbrook to finally figure it out? And watching Russell play, he's improved in this regard but he's still not there. I think OKC's record this year shows this.
Harden's defense has improved, but it's not anywhere near like Lebron. Sorry, but the game is played on both ends of the floor.
Lebron is bigger, he's stronger, and he's just as fast as the other two. If Lebron doesn't chase down Iggy last year in the finals and swat it from behind, Golden State repeats.
Lebron? He makes the right basketball play no matter what, no matter how much stupid people want to crucify him the next day in the media. That's why Lebron has 3 rings. People talk about how he has lots of help, but they don't factor in the fact that other players want to play with Lebron. They want to play with him because he helps you win the most of any other player in the NBA. He's the MVP.
I realize the award is sort of like the Oscars, where they kind of spread it around. I get it. But Lebron is still the real MVP. Maybe we should re-name it "Player with best stats who hasn't won it a lot lately award" and then yeah, it's not Lebron.
By the way, completely unrelated, I really don't like Lebron. I just can't deny his basketball performance this year.
When Lebron plays great & wins = the game means something, he's the MVP, he was actually trying, etc.
When Lebron doesn't play great & loses = He doesn't actually care about the regular season, he never tries until the playoffs, he'll be Finals MVP anyway, etc
Creative the black panther
@Evenson Victor
Yes sir
Creative facts according to the media
Creative This is the thinking of every LeBron fan, they speak with 2 tongues. That's why I don't take them seriously.
suntansuperman26
Word
Get Nose Wright and Skip Clueless in a debate, would be hella funny!
Already did nick wright smacked him badly and you already know skip bringing up 2011 just to avoid taking a L look it up G it’s hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
I love when nick comes on the herd
This is literally two people who agree with each other to an extreme. So hard to watch
was anything they said a lie?
Yea, for one implying that the East has been a tougher road in the playoffs than the West solely because of regular season wins..
Creative there reasoning wasn't because of regular season but who they played in the playoffs
@jerry
they used combined regular season wins to imply the east was tougher...does anyone honestly believe the Toronto Raptors or Atlanta Hawks were better than the Spurs or Thunder?
Cmon now
And if you want to add context as to WHY east teams would have more regular season wins, keep in mind that east teams play several other weak east teams 3 and 4 times a year vs only playing the tougher west twice a year Think about how much that can inflate one's regular season wins.
I don't care about the wins to be honest just who the cavs played compared to who the warriors played. Don't forget how the Rockets and Thunder lossed to the Warriors while being up in the series.
LeBron has been the best player for 10+ years. He took Eric Snow, Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, Sasha Pablovic and Zydrunas Ilgauskas to the finals! At the age 22!
Samuel Afewerki no way he was the best player for that long. U typed that comment 3 years ago meaning it was about 2017. U said “Lebron has been the best player for 10+ years”. That means you’re saying Lebron has been the best player since at least 2007. Let’s see, there’s a guy named Kobe who went to 3 straight finals and won 2 of them right after 2007. Do t think Lebron was the best player then. Then 2011. Has the biggest meltdown by a player has good as him in the finals. Don’t think he was player then. 2012 is when u definitely ha e a legitimate argument that he was possibly the best player in the league
Mark The Shark 2 so who was the best player in 2011. Even with the finals meltdown he still was by far the most talented player in the league. And he was better than Kobe in 08 09 but he didn’t have the squad that Kobe had. You can argue Kobe was better but he was also playing with better players undoubtedly
nick wright deserves a show luv his commentary
Did anybody notice that they have the seasons mixed up?
Nick Wright is the ultimate LeBron James fluffer.
PhilosopherKing mav?
Can we acknowledge greatness? From how he is covered you could mean he is literally the worst NBA player in history who gets to play superstar minutes. Yall have no problems celebrating Russ and HArden or Curry's last seasons
As long as you recognize everything he said was facts. Insults mean nothing.
those were facts ,yea it's true ,but his whole perspective is false ,for example he used the Wins and losses to compare some east teams to west teams,so according to his brilliant logic last year's raptors were better than the thunder or the Hawks Were stronger than the Blazers's team last season .
Those facts would also lead you to think that Lebron's defensive impact this year (if there's any ) is superior to Kawhi's ? or that the Cavs aren't underachieving comparing to the standards set by a champion team ? they already lost 27 games and some of those were blowout ,so they are underachieving .
the last point I want to throw out is that take Lebron out of the Cavs argument and they'll be a sub 30-win team .Well by no means is that true ,actually the Cavs can't win without him because they are so poorly coached on both sides that their whole offense depends on him ,whether it's penetrating and kicking out to shooters ,leading breaks ,scoring and so on.. they also are a mix of players who can't defend .
NIck Wright was throwing misleading facts .
Oh,..God, he's back!
lol lebron got killed for resting but because he was blowing out the celtics he shoulx have rested? lmao it magnifies the hypocrisy in people
My man half of lebron career he's been in the finals! Wowww 🐐
love both of these guys
coooooollin do you like my impression of you? - Nick
People want LeBron to be better than Jordan but he will never be because Micheal Jordan is a Mt. Rushmore athlete. Lebron took himself out of GOAT conversation when he mentally broke down in back to back playoff years. Against the celtics then against mavericks in the finals. I mean all people have to know is facts. Like people like to say Jordan didn't do good in the playoffs his first 8 years. But I never hear people say the fact that LeBron didn't make the playoffs his first two years when Jordan did. You just have to know facts.
Alphonso Bruton when Jordan made the playoffs his first 2 years his team never won more then 35 games. The east was extremely weak. Also Lebron went to the playoffs in his 3rd season and took his team all the way to the finals. At the age of 21.... MJ couldn't even play in the NBA till he was 23. And MJ didn't even make the NBA finals till he was 30. Also MJ is 1-9 in playoffs series without Scottie pippin. Michael Jordan lost in the first round 7 straight times. Lebron has never lost in the 1st round. Shut up
Connor Smith why so sensitive!?! Learn to have a debate without using ur emotion because it makes you look silly. Like I said all you have to do is know facts. MJ beat the cavs and pippen didn't do well in that series at all. Micheal once again had carried that team. As a matter of fact everyone knows that MJ made Scottie Pippen the player the player was. So the Scottie Pippen argument is a fallacy. Secondly you never refuted my statement on why LeBron James shouldn't be mention the GOAT or in the conversation. Because you have no comeback Jordan has never had a mental breakdown in a playoff or series Lebron has. Overall this conversation about Lebron vs MJ is like in football Jim Brown vs Emmit Smith. Jim Brown will always win the argument because he is a MT. Rushmore athlete
Alphonso Bruton lmfao! MJ made pippin the player he was? MJ is the reason Scottie pippin is a top 25 player ever? Lmfao you are not even worth arguing with. You think someone else is responsible for another mans entire legacy and career like you don't know basketball and it's obvious. I wouldn't be surprised if you are 12 and never even saw MJ play. Cause your argument is one of a childs
Connor Smith Lmao everyone even Scottie Pippen said MJ made him a better player mentally and physically. But "I don't know about basketball". Yea okay like I typed before stop getting emotional all we having is a simple debate.
That "total wins of opponents" argument is sooo flawed. The west is indeed tougher. You have to understand that western conference teams play each other wayy more times during the regular season then they play the east. So you can't draw a correlation from the win totoals. You think the raptors were better than the thunder last year because they won more games?!!.....Nick, please. Stop it.
Noel Aito not sure how he didn't even bother mentioning that
Noel Aito that's correct, but with that logic the better East teams should have more wins from beating up more frequently on weak east teams. theoretically it can be a wash. I do believe the east is weaker, but the takeaway was the Cavs road to the finals wasn't as simple as it appeared in comparison to the warriors. the warriors could've had tougher opponents, but luckily avoided it.
+Rell Wilder Aight
Noel Aito the Cavs have 51 wins
the Rockets have 53 or 54 wins and they're 3rd in the west! I'm tired of hearing people making it seem like the east is such a hard conference to go through and justifying LeBums reason to rest!
Cavs*
Nick Wright Drops 🎤
I love listening to these guys
Kobe made all nba first team in his 17th season
sean24833 wow
They don't talk about Kobe. Don't know why but they don't.
WTF Does a "All NBA first team" compare to this?!
Kobe was crazy
That's just a popularity contest, he didn't earn that. www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html
Mvp don't matter cos we all know lebron is better than westbrook and harden
King james #GOAT russ on cavs go to the finals no problem
You know what finally an argument I can agree with. I wish Bronsexuals would just admit the reg season isnt really relevant and LBJ will be competing for a title while the other are more than likely watching instead of mental gymnasticing him into the MVP lol
"Foreplay with no ending" lmaoo
thank you
MVP does not equal best player, ffs... People like Nick, Colin and Shannon does not get that people aren't saying that Westbrook is better than LeBron, because he is not... But MVP = Most Valuable Player during the regular season. These media people think if they say one thing they arent allowed to change their mind? Accept the greatness of what Westbrook has been doing despite of LeBron being a better player.
Jakob Elbøl facts bro...all day
Jakob Elbøl they can't help themselves. Lebron is God to them
Think about it though, LeBron is the most valuable player to any franchise he's on.
Loantastic of course...it doesn't mean he's the "regular" season mvp...hes the best player and top 5 all time but this season, he's not it...russ don't take possessions off let alone night's off...for the regular season he is the most valuable player atm...
No doubt, and follow you. But Cavs' current record would place them at 4 i Western Conference even with LeBron playing more minutes than anybody. OKC are 32-9 when Westbrook gets a triple double - he has no All Stars or good shooters around him and still averages a triple double. LeBron is the best player, Russell is the MVP.
Facts are facts. He has a very interesting take on things, I may not agree with how it is presented. It is good dialogue though.
Great stuff
totally agree with this take.
Love these old clips
There path is harder. We love to predict in sports. We all said that gsw were going to match clippers and that would be hard but the clippers lost to Houston. Then the clippers beat San Antonio who were a challenger for the gsw.
Gsw can only play in front of them. I agree with these guys on that both teams have really had easy playoffs run But like I mentioned we love to predict and when you do it is harder for gsw then it is for cavs.
Because of teams like clippers and San Antonio, clippers have dipped but when it's a rivalry firm goes out the window
CAVS are way in front in the east.
that graphic showing the warriors and cavs paths to the finals was completely wrong
Would love to see him and skip go at it lol
Get you a man who loves you like nick and Colin loves lebron
God damn if I met Nick Wright I would punch him the face. Seriously watch the game and hes the MVP? Watch Westbrook and Harden get 50 point triple double. Watch Curry win 13 straight without KD.
Julian Styles Watch the cavs go 0-6 without James they're all amazing players
Luke Pelton 3 of those games Love and Kyrie didn't play and another 2 just Kyrie played...That argument is so stupid
best segment ever.....epic. killed it nick
Funny how they are the ONLY ones that state facts without 90s nostalgia.
Can anyone tell me why everyone ignores facts? Like rock solid facts?
No one is ignoring facts, it's true....most of what he said is facts. The problem is that throwing out these facts (statistics) do not tell the entire story.
Remember, he's using these "facts" to support his OPINION, his opinion being that Lebron should be the MVP and everyone else is crazy for thinking otherwise.
What we're saying is he's being selective with his "facts" and leaving out vital information that would discredit LeKing. He's also bringing up stats that aren't relevant at all to the current MVP race.
Creative what facts are being left out then?
Darren Miller Jr James Harden is playing with no all star Lebron is playing with two, on the highest payroll ever. The Rockets are 3 games ahead of Cavs in a tougher Western Conference.
E'raan Lue and this is why the MVP has no meaning, becuase one Team is going for Championships, the other Team is hoping for Reg Season glory....Harden and Westbrook can have the MVP trophy? The new CBA allows their Teams to give them way more money to them for winning that trophy, so it is good for the league, but don't pretend that Lebron is not the best player, that is what Nick and Colin are arguing. The fact that Lebron is playing well enough to be mentioned
summary:
Nick: Lebron is a god.
Colin: Right?
am I the only one that noticed the graphic for their paths to the finals was backwards for both teams
Nick is always on point
Things LeBron fans say:
"Who cares about the regular season? It's all about the playoffs."
"Westbrook's stats are empty, wins are what matter."
"LeBron is having a career year in rebounds and assists; he should be MVP. In fact, he should be MVP every year."
"The Cavs regular season record doesn't matter since it's all about the playoffs."
"The Warriors played easier competition in the playoffs the past 2 years going off regular season wins."
"I don't care about what Harden or Westbrook do in meaningless regular season games."
"How could you watch LeBron last night and not give him the MVP?"
Now, I don't necessarily disagree with all of these, but it's literally impossible to logically agree with all of them.
MikeDiastavrone3 facts😭😭
I disagree with the Harden westbrook meaningless game one and the one about watching lebron and not giving him MVP and the career year one but you have to admit some of westbrooks numbers are empty he consistently pulls down 4 or 5 boards a game that his teammates already have basically and the regular season really doesnt mean much aside from seeding. For example the Mavs the year they were a one and lost out the regular season really meant nothing. Its about getting hot at the right time
Umm you can logically believe in all those without contradiction.
formsMostBeautiful okay, so here's my primary question:
Do regular season games, and by extension the statistics and win-loss records attached to them, matter? If not, I don't want to hear a damn thing about LeBron's career highs in rebounds and assists, how the Warriors played easier teams in the playoffs the last two years, or how people who watched last night's Cavs/Celtics game have to give it to LeBron.
MikeDiastavrone3 MJ fans be like "regular season stats don't matter it's all about the rings"
This whole video is facts
I'm a big fan of lebron, but the facts that Nick wright dropped blew me away. Makes me realize how much more effective lebron james is
They said Kawhi Leonard does not pass the ball when he's actually too unselfish, they ignore the fact that the team is old and hardly anyone can create their own shots besides LA. LeBron has Kyrie who is one of the most lethal one on one players in the league, that frees up LeBron to shoot.
Great, it's the LeBron James fangirl club.... smdh
Its funny how Nick Wright always finds stats that fit his argument. Lebron has averaged 30 or more points per reason twice. Jordan's done it eight times. And his third season after breaking his ankle his second season he averaged 37.1. The only time Jordan averaged under 25 points per game was his second year when he played 18 games and the Wizards seasons when he was 40 years old. So what's his point? So what Lebron averaged 25 points per game in thirteen straight seasons. Does that earn him anymore rings? And for the record the guy who averaged over 25 points per game 12 times is Allen Iverson. What's he got for it? Tim Duncan's points per game career average is 19. But he has 5 rings. So what's Nicks point? That Lebron can score? Kobe could score and he has more rings than Lebron. Shaq could score and has more rings than Lebron. don't give me frivolous stats. If that's the case, here's another frivolous stat. Robert Horry is a seven time NBA champ!
If rings are the only thing that matter when deciding who the greatest of all time, then Bill Russel is the undisputed king at 11 out of 13 seasons. Rings are impressive but are not the only thing needed to be taken into account when trying to determine greatest of all time. For that we would need a lot more to debate on but in terms of automatically disqualifying Lebron from the conversation because he doesn't have as many rings is just short sighted.
When it comes to the MVP race, they are only arguing how absurd it is that Lebron is not just 4th in the list but about who is ahead of him and why. Either numbers matter or they don't, either team record matters or it doesn't, and either intangibles matters or they don't. If numbers don't matter, then it's either team record or intangibles. If its intangibles then I would say it's either Lebron or Westbrook with Lebron the front runner because while the Thunder wouldn't be relevant without Westbrook, they aren't exactly competing for a title. If team record matters, then Kawhi Leonard or Steph Curry wins due to their records.
Now if it's a carefully weighted balance of all 3 then you have to put Lebron ahead of Kawhi Leonard at minimum and he has to be in the talk for MVP alongside Harden. Everyone wants to give it to Westbrook for the triple double without giving the true context as to why he has been able to get it and making claims that someone who hasn't been trying for it, is averaging 25 - 8 - 8 and somehow couldn't manage to get 2 more rebounds/assists if he truly wanted to? That's absurd. It's just disrespectful to put Lebron so far out of the MVP talks and it's obvious how much of a popularity contest it is and how it's not really about who the most valuable player truly is.
Bryan Point taken. I wasn't referring to the MVP race though. If that's the case then yeah, I agree with you somewhat. Jordan could've or should've rather gotten it every year. He was that valuable to his team. And we see what happens to teams when Lebron leaves. So I'm with u on that. And I wasn't just referring to rings and rings alone. If that's the case, Horry has seven. What I was saying is what's the point in having all those stats if at the end of the day they get you nothing. The warriors went 73 and 9. What did they get at the end? And so often I hear Nick say, well Jordan at the beginning of his career couldn't get out of the first round. My argument against that is, does it matter if Jordan didn't get out of the first round but Lebron went to six straight finals. If you lose in the first round or in the finals, you both get the same prize. I guess what my complaint is, I dislike when someone is prisoner of the moment. Lebron is an all time great. No disputing that. But let's not act like he invented basketball. And as far as Bill Russell. When he was winning rings there were 8, 9, 12, and 14 teams in the league. Meaning for his first couple of rings there were 8, his next few 9, and so forth. And his team was stacked. He had other all stars and HOF'ers on his team!
Why do these two never debate skip on the topic of LeBron? Would be amazing to see them destroy skip
So true
James is the best player but he is not the MVP this year and I LOVED LEBRON. Sure Lebron has career high in some stats but so does Russ and Harden. Russ and Harden have turnovers though..... Yes and so does Lebron. He has a career high in turnovers with his best team on paper of his career with a top 10 player of the league on his side plus Kevin Love and a great bench. Like Broussard said if you missed games to be in shape for the playoffs because you think that the season don't mean anything, don't expect to win a REGULAR SEASON AWARD. Also, please stop with the minutes of James, he played less minutes overall than Russ and Harden. It's way easier to average these stats when you never play a back to back.
At least you realize the difference between MVP of the team and MVP of the league.
Wayne- Wait, how can one be MVP of a league but NOT his own team? Thats like saying a specific car is the fastest in the world then in the same breath saying its only 4th fastest in its class(?)
B.E. P Don't make this more complicated than it already is
Charles Ferron he played multiple back to backs tho
he literally just finished playing 3 games in 4 nights...
Nick Wright is the GOAT! Nothing but facts!
Look at the headline question I thought they were dead the other day? Lol
My goodness Nick Wright has got FAXXXX
Lebron is having a fantastic year however harden and Russ are just having more success and are playing better
Individual seasons is what I meant btw .Also that is why I feel like harden is MVP he's leading his team to a better record than the defending champions
Eric Vander I don't buy it to some degree. I don't think harden teams is better but better fit for his style . They are a high octane 3pt shooting team I don't think Russ would fit that well on the rockets . The MVP senario I think who ever gets more wins gets it but I know for a fact okc would be better off with harden than Russ .
They are definitely not playing better, Westbrook and Harden will never come close to this man
85% of the time they're spot on about LeBron. That other 15% is the Stan talking. LeBron not the MVP this year.
yeah because MVP is not just about who is the best player. It's about who has the best story.
The thing about the amount of regular season wins of play-offs opponents can easily be twisted. You could say the Warriors' opponents combined for less wins because they've been playing the tougher (Western conference) teams.
I don't think it'll be a cake walk for the cav's to reach the finals like how they say it's going to be.. this year is going to be really interesting how it plays out
when was the last time someone saw Nick's family? cause LeBron must be keeping them hostage
It doesn't matter if he's averaging his career stats. Giannis from Bucks is averaging his career stats and is a leader in every category on his team. Is he the mvp? I don;t care that it's your 13th or 5th year in the league. We are not talking about the legacy, it's all about this regular season. James plays crazy minutes against Orlando and Indiana, everyone is glorifying his effort and if he sits down games against actually strong, competitive teams he gets a pass because he doesn't care about the regular season? I like Colin and I appreciate James but no way Lebron is deserved to be an MVP. How can you signify his stats when he plays with Kyrie, Love or even Korver. You take JR Smith and put him on Thunder he's arguably the 2nd best player.
Paulius Arvasas butent!
Paulius Arvasas Have you even seen J.R. this year? He's washed, averaging 8.5 ppg on like 35 % shooting. Oladipo, Kanter, Adams, and Taj Gibson are all better overall players. And okc's role players can actually play d consistently unlike the cavs role players. I still think Westbrook is mvp but that statement about J.R. might be the most ignorant thing I have read today. Watch some cavs games and you will realize he ain't 2009 J.R. anymore.
Giannis is a beast, just wanted to said that
History of the league, genius!
Brandon Polo I agree that was an overstatement but Lebron still has a much better supporting cast if you take player by player. You gotta chill though and learn how to debate mate.
Wait somebody forgot to put alternative in the title.
Where is Nick Wright after the back to back losses to the Hawks
Nick the players the Warriors beat were
Kevin Durant
Russell Westbrook
James harden
Marc gasol
Zach Randolph
Anthony Davis
Damian Lillard
The Cavs beat
Jeff Teague
Reggie Jackson
Demar derozan
Isiah Thomas
Andre Drummond just stop it
trevion sewell lol exactly and that 60 win hawks team were injured no korver and no millsap and they were overrated
trevion sewell Also the path to WCF goes through the Spurs.. the most successful team. Okc beat them and nearly beat warriors. They were the best team in the playoffs last year.
rushking20 #TerribleTowels exactly that was the weakest argument to try and diminish the Warriors getting to the finals
3-1
trevion sewell nick should be banned from
Tv he basically said the Cavs didn't have a cakewalk through the east last year
LBJ is truly amazing!!! 15 years in the league and he's still killin it!!!! I'm a fan for life!!! He's better than Jordan!!!!!
He’s not at 20 seasons in a row with 25+ a game for the season
Nick & Colin are smart guys
I thought playing the Warriors were a meaningful game ?🙄. Can you upload some NFL content lol geez
It wasn't
Right my first thoughts exactly what about the warrior games
Blorox Bleach Because the Media made it seem like it was the most important? Do I gotta bring up the Nickwright video of him praising the cavs and how they were going to win the chip this year based on their Christmas game
No. Playing the warriors on Christmas day was meaningful when they won. It was meaningless when they played a couple weeks later in January. According to LeBron and a lot of the media earlier this week and even yesterday, Cavs/Celtics last night was a meaningless game. Now that Cleveland won though, it's super meaningful. Nick Wright is kind of crazy. There is just no argument for LeBron to be the MVP this year and there shouldn't be. He is not the MVP this year and the only reason his name is getting mentioned is because he is LeBron. He wasn't and isn't focused on trying to have an MVP season nor should he be honestly. If the dude is trying to win a ring, he has been to 6 straight finals and knows being in the East there is a high percentage chance he is going to his 7th straight. Can't really be wasting energy trying to be an MVP if you are shouldering that amount of basketball. The whole thing that oh because they won, it was super meaningful is as absurd as a few guys this morning saying that just because they won last night they have flipped a switch and are totally fine. No, they have been playing pretty awful basketball now for a looong time. To go deep they are going to have to rely on LeBron far more than they should realistically be having to rely on him to do that and this year it's not going to be the complete cakewalk it was the past 2 years.
Danny Blau it's meaningful because they won but not because they lose? Lmao ok
I can't stand Nick this gets unbearable after a while. Mind as well just this channel name to The Lebron Channel
DJ KHALED SQUAD #WeDaBest he didn't tell any lies in this tho
He spits FACTS!
Numbers are numbers you can make numbers benefit anything you want .
let's talk about this year cause that's what matter LeBron Cavs are 16-14 against the Western conference... Warriors are 25-5 against the East lol see how easy it is to manipulate stats to fit your argument
DJ KHALED SQUAD #WeDaBest u salty he the goat???
MORE NICK WRIGHT!!!!
Nick is right. And everyone will realize it once again when we get to the postseason.
Nick shows stats for lebron vs. kawhi and says hes better at everything.
Yes better at every stat nick cherry picked. Kawhi has him in ft %/steals/blocks/less to/and 3 pt %/ and overall defense basically.
All while playing 4 less minutes per game.
Facts!
Notice Colin is slobbering over lebron he cant speak clearly when he mentions lebrons assists, Homer!
Matthew William if you watch Spurs games though you realize Kawhi doesn't have to orchestrate for his team to do well. He can score and play good d. Lebron is a good defender as well and a way better pkaymaker
Just stated facts, lebron has more assists I get that. I guess if you want you can say Kawhi is the second coming of Kobe? Low assists/great defense and the go to guy when you need a bucket.
I am Huge Lebron fan, but i try to be subjective. I do believe Kawhii should finish above Lebron in MVP race. In fact i would vote for Kawhii for the MVP. Harden and West brook are getting big numbers cause of their team.
Nick Wright is dumb, Kawhi is a MUCH BETTER defender, which is why Kawhi is gonna finish higher in MVP
Carl Scholl So u would pick a kawhi over lebron if you were starting a team?
That's why his defensive rating and point differential per 100 possessions are worse lol. Highlights can be deceiving
John Creasy I'd pick Kawhi over Lebron any day. Better defender, better 30t shooter, better mid range game, more steals, less turnovers, way more clutch, doesn't rest, doesn't complain, and he's beaten Lebron literally every times he's played him this season by a landslide. He put up 43 on Bron like it was nothing
Dijon Joseph He has not been reliable in the playoffs
Dijon Joseph no handles can't pass
Not to be nitpicky but the graphic at 5:30 is incorrect with the team placements by year. The 14-15 should be where the 15-16 teams are for the Cavs, and the same for the Warriors, aside from the Pelicans
Nick Wright is glued to Lebron's lap lmao. It's wild.
LeBron had an awesome game but you can't use this as a reason to say that he is MVP. Nick Wright always wanted LeBron as MVP but toned it down when it was obvious that he sounded stupid. He must have gotten so wet after last night's game
eric garcia facts 😂😂😂
eric garcia your missing fun but he make an outstanding argument
Nick Wright was nowhere in the month of March when they went 7-10, he's has no objectivity.
I'm a lebron fanatic #2 all time in my book and even I think Nick wright is out of his mind he has no objectivity when it comes to lebron hes like skip bayless with Jordan lebron is not the mvp hes not even top 3
T&K Today you're not a Lebron fan.
King Raymone James - He is, He's just not a kid or a Bronsexual like you.
T&K Today How does he have no objectivity when he laid out nothing but facts though?
He's top 3 behind Westbrook and Harden. IT may have elevated Boston but without Bron Cavs are nothing.
King Raymone James yea I am bruh a fanatic I argue with people that he's better than Jordan but I'm not so oblivious that I'm going to say he's mvp this yr he's not
Nick Wright hold it with both hands.
He compared Jordan's season to Lebrons, but forgets to mention that Jordan shot 54%, with 32.5 ppg, and 3 steals a game.
he is so biased
Nick Wright should never be aloud to talk basketball...
He spits FACTS!
Randy Lopez About one player
You should never be allowed to comment on youtube...
I'm convinced lebron must be paying these dudes smh true stans
Uh oh triggered bronsexual
Oscar Meza, do you have anything but your feelings to prove your point? All they did was put up facts, what do you got?
Oscar Mez
john amos what facts are they leaving out? How do stats lack logic? try this if you switch Lebron's stats to OKC and Westbrook's stats to Cleveland, which Team do you think is having a better Season?
Since Bronsexuals love "facts" so much let's talk about how LeBrons 3-4 in the Finals 😂😂 but oh wait they can't handle that fact without crying and making excuses 😂😭
The thumbnail lol
Nick Wright is getting annoying now honestly
A. A. but u still watched the video so... L
A. A. He's not annoying, you just don't agree with him and the facts
A. A. I guess facts annoy u
I guess facts annoys you
Lol facts are annoying now smh.
When they showed kawhi and lebron stats, it doesn't show that Kawhi owned LeBron both times they have played each other in the reg season and conveniently misses out FT shooting, Kawhi near 90% and LeBron under 70%. And oh yeah Kawhi has been a much better defender this year and has more steals and less TO's. Also a far superior record with much less help
Ujjal Ray less help? he has arguably the best coach ever a deep bench a top 5 pf and fantastic veterans he also passes way less and lebron has thousands of minutes and hes getting old so he only plays d when it matters
LeBron has way more help, 2 other all stars and snipers on the bench shooting 40% from 3, channing frye and korver
Ujjal Ray you seem to leave out the spurs can win without kawhi the cavs can't win without Lebron. Showing you yeah the spurs don't have a ton of super talent but their system is built to work with at least one star. They are like 5-0 when kawhi doesn't play.
Ujjal Ray He would surely less turn over because he is not running the offense and he doesn't handle the ball as much as lebron
The Cavs have 2 other hall of famers on their team. If you replace the Lebron with an average SF. The are fighting for the 4-5 seed.
Keep and mind the 5 seeds best 2 players are Dwight and Milsap and the Cavs have Love and Kyrie
If you take Kawhi off the Spurs, they are barely making the playoffs if at all.
Keep in mind Lillard and McCallom are to all star deserving players and the Spurs would just have Aldridge who's worst than both of them arguably
this is sooo right
I love this dude
Every single one of these "facts" are just begging for context.
13 straight seasons at 25+ppg
Streaks mean very little. MJ only played 14.5 seasons, never more than 9 consecutive. Oh, and he averaged 30+ ppg in 9 seasons. Can LeBron say that?
Career highs in 14th year
Arbitrary focus on 14th year. High school draft inflates this number. Also, what point is he trying to make? That LeBron is at his peak at 32? So what?
"Woefully underachieving to the 1 seed"
The Cavs were #1, but finished #2.
25 - 8 - 8 on 55% shooting
MJ scored 32.5ppg on 54% shooting, and shot way fewer shots in the paint, and he grabbed 3 steals a game. Advantage MJ.
The East is as strong as The West
Comparing win totals for opponents of 2 teams is the definition of cherry picking data. The Warriors have avoided difficult teams, but there ARE NO DIFFICULT TEAMS in the East. You have to go to nearly the 5 seed in the West to find a team with a worse record than the Cavs, and the Cavs are the overwhelming favorites in the East. Oh, and Western conference teams have to play a larger percentage of their games against Western conference teams. This is just crazy. Stop it.
LeBron should finish ahead of Kawhi for MVP (because of stats)
Per 100 Possessions, Kawhi beats LeBron in points, FG% at 5ft+, FT%, 3PT%, blocks, steals, and has fewer turnovers, and Kawhi's plus/minus is better than LeBrons. (all according to stats.nba.com). Nick's plus/minus math is, again, calculated based on what makes LeBron look the best.
LeBron shooting 55% is unbelievable for a perimeter player
He actually shoots a shockingly high percentage of his shots within 5ft of the hoop. Like, nearly half. Kawhi only shoots 25% of his shots within 5ft. LeBron can hardly be called a perimeter player. Kawhi's jump shot percentage is 44% compared to LeBron's 38%.
LeBron does/doesn't play enough
Total strawman. People are confused by LeBron sitting out games to "rest" while he plays big minutes in blowouts. This is a legitimate question, and it's dumb to say it's not.
Lebron with Wade and Bosh lost to the Mavs. I rest my case here.
Well this could be the most irrelevant argument in the history of negating LeBron.
lol, I'm serious though why do you rest your case off of something 6 years old?
Mitch Rogers how is it irrelevant?How did he managed to lose with all that talent on the team if he is the GOAT?
First of all this conversations is not about him being the GOAT, second both of these 2 agree he is not the GOAT, while they do agree he has the potential to become the GOAT. 3, you can't knock a man for making it to the finals and losing considering it is the hardest achievement to accomplish in basketball, something that most never do. MJ struggled for years to get out of the first round. I'm not saying he's the goat, and he likely never will be, but to see the growth he's had from tha miserable performance to now is the greatest 6 year stretch ever by an NBA player, last years finals you saw the greatest performance in the history of the finals against one of the most dominant teams ever. I dont understand how you can't enjoy LeBron James, a once in a generation and a top 5 all time player
Mitch Rogers I agree with you on most of your points, but I think those two are definitely saying that he is the GOAT. And Nick always gets on my nerves.
I agree with this
I agree
i love how they maniplulate stats and say over 25 ppg so the guy that had 24ppg 1 year dont qualify like omg dude lol
bruh r u serious
why not say 23 or 22. u idiot