Surefire Backup MV Light Review: Dual Output EDC Excellence (HD)
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2017
- I go over the features of the new Surefire Backup MaxVision EDC light, compare the beam pattern with a few other options, conduct some drop tests on concrete, and go over what I think of it overall.
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Mrgunsngear, the type of guy to upload a surefire edc light review right when I'm looking at them on amazon.
Christopher Walken I feel like it's missing something
I got a fever
you might find a deal. check elzetta and amazon too. through his page i got a zt 0350 for 85 bucks, elzetta charlie for 90, and elzetta bravo for 150 but with Avs HEAD. I didnt want to pay that much for the last one but i got tired of waiting and i wanted it
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Good review. I've had the original back up for 10+ years now. Still using it and it's never missed a beat.
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Neighbors must love these light reviews lol.
This is the light I've been hoping Surefire would produce - hands down my favorite EDC light!!
I’d love to have this as an EDC light, I carry the Tactician but I love that this one is bezel-down and it has a deep carry clip.
Thank you for the review of the new Surefire Backup with MaxVision. I own the original Backup and was curious about the new model.
Thanks for the review Mrgungear, I agree with you, This is a light your life will depend on. It worth it.
You, the wifey, and the dogs all approve. Must be a winner! On a side note your channel costs me about as much in clothing as it does on the items you review!
Awesome EDC Flashlight - Great detailed review. Surefire brand is expensive but worth it when you need it. I have used multiple other cheaper and/or imported lights (Fenix, O-Light, Eagle Tac, etc). I carry a couple of different flashlights with me virtually everyday everywhere. A Surefire backup in my pants pocket, and a dual cell G2X Pro or 6PX) in my coat pocket. While I don't typically use them for defense I use them for daily walks at night, around the house and work. In the winter, where I use them a lot I leave them in active mode, while in the summer I will normally leave it in lockout mode to prevent accidental activation. Either way I use them everyday and get 4-8 months out of the batteries! I also have Defenders, older Backups and newer style Backups. I like this body style the most, the new Backup models are just a little bigger, heavier and bulkier (still a great light). The bezel on the regular Backup is more square and bulky, while this is tampered and blends into your pocket better. This has a much better design for comfortable pocket carry and the beam pattern works best in my opinion for general use. A tighter pattern is great for searching outside, however, for use inside or general walking & hiking this beam is perfect. While it is expensive, you won't regret it!!
Fantastic! Review.. matter of fact the best I've ever seen. Well done! I will be a new subscriber, not to mention, just ordered that f-light
Picked one of these up for just under 100 dollars (with a coupon) direct from surefire, great review!
Thank you
Great review, I picked this light up today
Streamlight has that style of clip, but I believe it is for using hands-free with a ball cap brim.
Surefire is Great quality for sure
That tail switch first drop was pretty impressive.
This would be the perfect flashlight to go with the new sig EDC - Sig Sauer P290 RS EDC Semi-Auto Pistol Hoping to see this on the channel soon as I know your a sig fan! :-) Great review as always!
I'm really digging hat pocket clip. I definitely use my flashlight more than any other piece of gear. The one thing I've found over the years is I must have rechargeable. Come home take off gun knife and put the flashlight on charge for the next day.
I was pretty convinced the dog was going to poop at 3:47. That would have made for great 'TV'. haha.
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Great video review as usual. I love surefire but lately I've been leaning towards streamlight mostly because of cost and they offer really good reliability.
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When you're doing a drop test even though you figure it will hold do you get just tiny bit of nervous feeling in the pit of your stomach? I know I do just watching ;)
Are you sure the electronics are potted? In the past Surefire never potted their lights and I'm not aware of it being mentioned of the light on the Surefire page.
Surefires... The things just work. Are ya sure you're not 8 feet tall Mike!? Colt looks like a little ghost in your yard. I'm digging the shirt.
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Fenix works, Olight works, thrunite works...
Joe Tango So does a Kel-Tec.....I still would trust my life with a Kel-Tec pistol. I buy cheap lights to stick in my vehicles or stash around the house for power outages. I carry a Surefire on my person for when the crap hits the fan.
A good alternative is the Malkoff MDC. Fully potted electronics, LED options, comes in multiple lengths for different battery options and is much less expensive than a Surefire with the same durability. If you're a big spender then step up to a Prometheus Alpha.
I go with the Malkoff.
My EDC is a Malkoff. My main patrol light is also a Malkoff. Had an issue with my Wildcat and Gene took care of it right away.
Great Review. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you
I've been contemplating a EDC light good info.
you're welcome
Would you drop test the streamlight lights that they use for weapon lights, please?
If you could only have one, would you go with this flashlight or an Elzetta alpha with the high/low tail cap? I compared their specs and they're very close. Sure fire is slightly smaller and lighter.
I swear this guy looks like a professional. he just won't admit that to us
Great review, thanks!
Very nice this light made in
Please be aware that cr123a cells and rcr123a cells are VERY different and are usually NOT interchangeable. The rechargeable version has more voltage and can damage the light in the long run. Some cr123a lights are compatible with rcr123a cells but MOST ARE NOT. If you need a rechargeable option, Surefire makes some rechargeable ones that have a similar voltage to prevent damage.
How's the tint compared to an elzetta alpha?, been slowly switching over to neutral's for all my lights, surefire is generally cool white, they are slow to change for neutral, everybody seems to be playing a chase the lumens/high output game.
I used to not think surefire was worth the cost, but I’ve had thrunites and nitecores that stopped working properly even with 0 abuse. Strong tools are less expensive in the long run than cheap tools.
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Nice time lapse!
Anyone know if the heads are interchangeable between the back up eb1 and the backup-MV?
I think Surefires are not fully potted electronics but they do the conformal coating process.
I like the tighter beam on the older, non-MV Backup better.
Cool light but i prefer the tighter beam with less spill. Cant see very far with the mv beams
Do you have any experience with the Elzetta Alpah? It's a less expensive light but they also advertise the potted electronics. They also have the "build your own flashlight" option through Elzetta.
he has the videos of Elzetta Alpha and Bravo earlier. check it out :)
Good review!
The big question surefire backup or elzetta alpha ?
so you had success running an olight 16340 in this light? i dont have it but i had an older backup and it did not like the olight 16340's or the less powerful tenergy 16340s even at 3.0v so i sold it to a straight up surefire battery user and he loves it through this day.
the fury and so i assume the g2x series as well loves them from my experience. 16650 being the best option. elzetta will also answer your battery questions as well as sell you one of the strongest lights on earth.
i could switch to an alpha today and not trip. if they made a light that supported 14500's eagletac and the four sevens preon would get benched.....high cri game over mayne
Unfortunately, not all Surefire lights have any potting whatsoever. Not right now anyway. Elzettas modular lights do though. None of my Surefire lights do, not even the high-end ones.
Hi buddy can advice will it fit 'Thyrm' clip?
can you compare the elzetta alpha vs e1b mv?
Do you still carry the E1B MV as your edc?
Have you tried putting RCR123?
MistaGunzN'Gear, kind of off topic but I was wondering how your dog handles the heat and humidity down there? I'm from the STCC area up North and have the same breed.
Not well. You have to monitor them.
HI Mrgunsngear. The price of this Surefire light has dropped to $149 with the introduction of their new one model EDCL-1-T. But one question does this E1B get hot when having the constant turned on? I will be getting one, but still wanted to ask. Thank you!
where at?
I bought one from OP Tactical for $139 last week
It does get a little hot but not a big deal, I use mine daily and added a tail stand tail cap , I’m thinking it’s a z68 like on the defenders. Great review but wow I wouldn’t have never intentionally dropped it several times on the cement😬 Surefire new pricing is $149.
Hi Mrgunsngear, it was on Surefire's website.
Just got one on Amazon for 139
Where the heck is the Rugar AR 556 review. ? Ur killing me smalls !
you're killing ME smalls
Nice flashlight bro!!
I must be one of the unlucky ones, I had a surefire fury 500 lumen and it had bad connections in it, contacting surefire was a PAIN, I did have a g2x that worked well but ive always had better luck with streamlight
Crazy, thanks
Surefire has been living off their name for a long time now. That price tag is simply stupid in light of the competition. Good products but so are the competitions. Not to mention that even the lower end lights have been getting better and better.
Compared to what? Some Chinese copy of American kit? No thanks.
How do you know if you are getting an authentic Surefire? since there are fakes on there.
olight's s1 baton is smaller and brighter and has a couple extra modes for like $50. TNP dropped it off an over pass in a video.
but I'll stick with Surefire for my rifles and shotguns
I have that light, not even close in quality compared to the Surefire. If you want absolute confidence and reliability in a light Surefire hands down
O light is made in China, Surefire is made in the USA
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Just for kicks you should totally up the amount of funds spent on flash lights in the last 5 years...lol . Nice review, thanks , my ED2 ultra was worth every penny , works well for me . Do wish they had the strobe . That's just me . Thanks again
i also have an e2d. i dont use it much. if it had stobe i think id use it less than high/low, but it does have exceptional throw so i think its a fantastic work light
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See earlier reply
You're incorrect. Surefire lights don't have potted electronics. I really liked my E1B Maxvision but ended up returning it because it started to flicker on high even with new batteries. In addition, there was a significant amount of dust on the inside of the lens and reflector. Unacceptable for a $190 flashlight imho.
Anywhere I could find that in writing? I was told they did in some models (this one)....
I have a few, but they are a bit older. None of mine are potted. Does the head not unscrew on that model? You can probably still see, if you take the batteries out and look through the tail cap end.
Do you prefer the EDC over the Streamlight 1AA?
I do
Mr. Colt said get that light outta my face im trying to go back to sleep pops
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Bro. I need that shirt.
muy bueno
Surefire is known for their reliability minus the XC1
That one had some issues at first for sure
Mrgunsngear Channel are they good to go now?
I got one stiletto pro at surefire right now for repair. Been waiting for retune for 3 months now.
I got a second stiletto pro that doing that same think my first one did…burning the led and reflector.
Need that shirt
Takes a hell-of-a-man to purposely drop that beauty on his driveway. (lol)
I like specs on surefire p2x fury better, and it's cheaper... but the ergonomics of this look better... hmmmmm
the ergonomics of the backup ARE better while the surefire fury remains the better light under use. its very floody whereas the e2d is a thrower so the fury is actually very useful
do you like the protac1L or this better?
Cost aside this
Badass shirt
Dig the shirt
You said it has nice checkering rather than anodizing, but I think the word you were looking for is knurling..
You are correct
think the beam is great but need lil more natural
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That's absolutely PAINFUL watching him drop that light on the concrete...mine are mostly pocket queens, I HATE it when they get scuffed, marred, or chipped in any way. They cost too much to beat up.
That’s how I am with mine, I try hard to keep them as nice as the day I buy them until they finally get scuffed regardless of my efforts, then I really don’t mind after that, it’s almost a relief like good now I don’t have to baby them lol idk it’s weird
I mean, Streamlight ProTac 1L-1AA though...
cheaper for a reason
I would have dropped it in the lake when taking the intro video. :)
I think I'd rather get the Elzetta Alpha for $50 cheaper.
Great light; just a touch bulkier but recommended for sure
Can you mount it on a rifle though...?
you could
Too bad they didn't get the tactical switch. The thing that keeps me from buying new surefires
noted
Am I way off here? Why do they keep from offering the option, like they did in the past?
Because it's really not that important
Have the dogs ever pee on your lights
Surefire sure isn't cheap.
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That flashlight is $200!!! LOL! I bought an Olight S1R with two rechargeable batteries, and 900 lumens for $60. The max lumens drop down after 30 seconds, because it gets pretty hot at that point. The Olight has a clumsy on/off button, but it's pretty good otherwise. Thanks for getting me excited over the Surefire, at least until I saw the sticker shock... ;-)
You're welcome
You're absolutely correct lol and dissing yourself on Euro Lite have the same light same problems not Dependable in a tactical or defensive situation Surefire wins hands down I think it's worth the money I think your life's worth the money
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400 lumens is not enough for a edc tactical flashlight all my edc tactical flashlights have to have over 900 lumens or more my nitecore mt10a is way better than that surefire backup
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Mrgunsngear Channel lumen vs candela...amirite?
in what lumen category must an edc tactical light, above 900? i think it's subjective. others even 300 lumen is enough. well, i don't know if your nitecore can keep up with this torture test. surefire is surefire bro.
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Did you not watch the video Perfect explanation on why you would want the backup versus a full throw 900 lumen nothing wrong with 900 lumens in the right setting in the wrong setting a 900 lumens is way way too much
way too expensive for that flashlight. just saying
yeah too damn expensive compared to other light and it doesn't offer any advantage
check out my surefire vs. thrunite video
Done them all, nothing beats a surefire
i just got this light, it was on sale, i got it for around 119$ from optics planet.
it was listed on sale for 132$ i used the 10% off discount code and got it for 119$ shipped.
$200? Guaranteed unless i bump into you i will never meet anybody who ever bought one,,,
Edit, seeing as how you have 175k subs they probably give it to you to advertise so i will never meet anybody who bought one at $200
I know 3 people that have and if you read the light forums you'll see hundreds that have. Know anyone that owns a Mercedes? Same thing.
I have 3 surefires. Eb1,eb2 and e2d ultra.
Good review mate. Thanks. Surefire's a great brand.
I'm really digging hat pocket clip. I definitely use my flashlight more than any other piece of gear. The one thing I've found over the years is I must have rechargeable. Come home take off gun knife and put the flashlight on charge for the next day.
yeah man i use mine everyday. it always gets dark out and my eyes arent great