Agree 100% Eric. I re-evaluated my requirements a little while ago, and whilst I had an excellent Canon setup, I decided that less and less was coming out with me as I get a little older. So I went for a smaller mirrorless system (Olympus), which is fantastic and it has reinvigorated my photography. I can now carry in a small Billingham shoulder bag, what I used to have to put into a large backpack without a drop in the quality. I have never once looked back.
I had to downsize because of health issues New shoulder joint which is not up to the task of humping around large camera setups. I went with the canon M5 with the Macro lens and the 55-200 lens kit and as you say if your not blowing up the pictures to poster size the canonM50 is great and i have won competitions using the equipment and up against guys with the heavier set ups.
I have the M50 with the kit lens and the 55-200 and I plan on using them for at least a couple of years whilst I learn photography, I figure that if I cant get a good shot with those then I won’t get a good shot with the lenses that cost thousands either. I’ll invest more when I feel that i will actually benefit from the investment.
Thanks for this comparison. I usually use my camera while hiking and my M50 is so packable and easy to carry. I couldn't imagine carrying a large heavy setup with all my other gear.
when you consider the R5 has 45mp over the m50 24 it does make a point. A lens i highly recommend to new M series users is the efm 18-150mm, it sits in a nice place between a sigma 100-400mm and the 11-22mm is you decide to go longer or wider, it also has a more versatile range with a good wide end and decent reach with the 150mm, with that focal range it is an excellent way to test out focal framing when you are considering getting a fast prime lens. the 55-200mm is also a great lens but it can be a bit on the tight side if its your only lens. the sigma 105mm ƒ1.4 on the M50 is great in very low light, i got that after having the 32mm ƒ1.4, those ƒ1.4 lenses do spoil it for other slower lenses lol Another way to do digital photography on the cheap is getting into using vintage lenses, some super sharp and wonderful rendering lenses in the vintage lines with great build quality, can't go wrong for $30
You are quite correct sir. My first camera was a Canon AE-1 in 1985, then added a 4X5 field camera, and a 500C Hasselblad.. I know a thing or two about heavy equipment. These days it's the M50, 15-45mm and the 55-200mm. The most expensive camera in the world will not make one a better photographer.
I own an M6 II and an R5 and my wife an M50 with various lenses ans we love each of them for a different reason and application. When we shoot “bread & butter” the iPhone enters the stage too…. shoot what and with whatever makes you happy👍👋
Great video, I have the 5D-4 but refuse to take it on holiday so bought the M 50 and I now find I am using it more and more with EF glass and converter.
It's a great little camera and the body is definitely smaller. You should try getting some of the native and Mount lenses it makes the whole kit very easy to travel with.
Great video Eric. I have both the RP and the M50 and, although I love the RP’s output with the 24-105L, I am normally grabbing the M50 to go out due to the convenience of carrying a lighter combo. Image quality is good enough for what I do. Ralph Goldstein, a landscape photographer in CZcams, recently gave up a Nikon ff kit due to back and neck problems while hiking and started ‘temporarily’ using his vlogging camera (M50) for stills. Almost a year later the temporary became permanent, he has had no IQ issues whatsoever in his work, normally shooting on a tripod at f8 or 11. Thanks for producing these videos about ‘photography on a budget’, love them and they really motivate folks to get into the hobby regardless of income bracket. I am hoping Canon will come up with a very small, $500-700 camera in the R mount soon. The RP is small for sure but not as small as the M50 and there are no really small zoom lenses to go with it yet (there are rumored 18-45 and 17-70 which could be APSC…fingers crossed).
Valuable information here. My observations of this video is the big lense is naturally brighter. But, other than that, there is not much difference between the 2 unless you are pixel peeping. Thank you for this.
And while I know the review is to compare the m50's compactness vs the R5 (I own both), never forget the m50's secret weapon...the speed booster. 😎👌Great review, and keep up the good work.
This lens, the sigma 56mm f1.4, and the canon 22mm f2 are all you need to cover everything. I would say the kit lens kinda sucks though. I'm comparing it to the sigma however
This is an awesome comparison. I'm thinking that my M50 with one of these on it will make a great companion to my 6D & 16-35 set up on a tripod for my main shot. Plus, I can shoot tele while I'm waiting for my lighting on my main camera.
@@BillEricPhotography right. I mean, I've gotten some shots with the M50 and an EF-S 10-18MM that are incredible. The only reason I went back to full frame was to incorporate astro back into my landscapes and the 6D & 16-35 f2.8 II is an awesome kit for that.
This was actually pretty useful. Might make the plunge and get this lense second hand and try my luck on novice bird photography here in Finland. I know a place with storks and kingfishers
I Had The 5D MKII & III Had To downsize because of the weight factor and ergonomics as i now have arthritis in most joints hand holding the full frame was not comfortable any more and was having to tripod mount them i got the M50 MkI with kit lens and EFM 55-200 and find i can use for longer periods i sold my 70/200L but kept the 24/70L although i dont use it that much
Gents! As one who's still ticking along with an 80D (and a 60D as a backup) this one made me feel better about staying the course on my old APS-C gear a while longer (80D and M50 same, or nearly same sensor & DIGIC chip, if memory serves) and making my next camera tech purchase a drone. Curious where you're heading to chase fall foliage this year? Happy to offer some local knowledge if you're ever interested in the waterfalls and covered bridges in Bucks County PA.
We were actually thinking of heading into Pennsylvania. Any info you could give us we would appreciate. If you want you could PM us over on an hour Disney image makers Facebook or Instagram page. Thanks
I wish they would make a 70-200 for the ef-m mount. I use a canon m6 mark ii, basically a m50, and I would really like a native 2.8 rather than using an adapter.
It may not even matter for large size prints. Because as the image enlarges, the viewing distance increases accordingly and the ability of the human eye to discern detail decreases with distance.
Hi Eric, just caught this vlog. I prefer doing stills using my Canon DSLRs for which I have EF glass but for "lightweight carry" purposes also use an M6 MkII and an M5. What you are saying is absolutely right but the following for what it's worth: I had a 55-200 lens but traded it for the 18-150 which I find is a more flexible option however and whilst I don't care too much for mounting EF glass on M bodies there is one lens that I find works a treat, my 70-200 f4 with or without a x1.4 multiplier. Perhaps because of the tripod collar giving you a good hand grip, it makes a great and well balanced combination. I think your key point about whether you need a fast lens for most circumstances is right on the money, why carry all that weight if you are going to be shooting at f8-f11 anyway ?
Great review. Wish that you compare the R5, M50 against the M6 mk ii too.😄 May I know the ISO settings of the Canon M50 you used? Usually I will try to keep it at ISO 100 but sometime the image produced is too dark. 🤣 Hence, i crank up the ISO. I realised that even at ISO 6400 with the EF-M 55-200mm on a cloudy day produce pretty stunning results. 😄
Thanks! I shot these at ISO 200. I agree we’ve gotten very good results with the M50 at 6400. We have a video coming up comparing high ISO shots on the M50.
Ehy Eric, I have a M50 and I would like to buy the EF-m 55-200MM ef for it. I have to shoot and make videos indoor to horses. I'm a little scared about the poor light and how this lens will manage it keeping a good quality. What would you suggest? :)
You might want to try renting it and see if it works for you if it doesn't you could try prime lenses but that could get expensive. Also and adapted 70 to 200 2.8 would probably be the perfect lens. It's big and definitely more money but you might be able to find a used one that you can adapt to the m50
Really the only thing that 200 2.8 is good for is birds or sports upclose in action portraiture Mostly you can just use older shitty ef lenses on the m50 and be just fine
Bought my Canon M50 in October 2019 almost 2 yrs ago and I still love it .
Same here!
Agree 100% Eric. I re-evaluated my requirements a little while ago, and whilst I had an excellent Canon setup, I decided that less and less was coming out with me as I get a little older. So I went for a smaller mirrorless system (Olympus), which is fantastic and it has reinvigorated my photography. I can now carry in a small Billingham shoulder bag, what I used to have to put into a large backpack without a drop in the quality. I have never once looked back.
That’s great to hear!
I had to downsize because of health issues New shoulder joint which is not up to the task of humping around large camera setups. I went with the canon M5 with the Macro lens and the 55-200 lens kit and as you say if your not blowing up the pictures to poster size the canonM50 is great and i have won competitions using the equipment and up against guys with the heavier set ups.
What's that old saying It's not the camera it's the photographer! 😉
I have the M50 with the kit lens and the 55-200 and I plan on using them for at least a couple of years whilst I learn photography, I figure that if I cant get a good shot with those then I won’t get a good shot with the lenses that cost thousands either. I’ll invest more when I feel that i will actually benefit from the investment.
That is the perfect approach!
Thanks for this comparison. I usually use my camera while hiking and my M50 is so packable and easy to carry. I couldn't imagine carrying a large heavy setup with all my other gear.
Exactly right!
Just got my M50. It's my first mirror less. Great information. Thank you
Happy to help! Enjoy it!
Wow! Great video- very informative. Don't really notice the difference until you zoom in.
Thanks for posting. We will get the cheaper lense LOL.
when you consider the R5 has 45mp over the m50 24 it does make a point.
A lens i highly recommend to new M series users is the efm 18-150mm, it sits in a nice place between a sigma 100-400mm and the 11-22mm is you decide to go longer or wider, it also has a more versatile range with a good wide end and decent reach with the 150mm, with that focal range it is an excellent way to test out focal framing when you are considering getting a fast prime lens.
the 55-200mm is also a great lens but it can be a bit on the tight side if its your only lens.
the sigma 105mm ƒ1.4 on the M50 is great in very low light, i got that after having the 32mm ƒ1.4, those ƒ1.4 lenses do spoil it for other slower lenses lol
Another way to do digital photography on the cheap is getting into using vintage lenses, some super sharp and wonderful rendering lenses in the vintage lines with great build quality, can't go wrong for $30
Great points thanks Laura!
You are quite correct sir. My first camera was a Canon AE-1 in 1985, then added a 4X5 field camera, and a 500C Hasselblad.. I know a thing or two about heavy equipment. These days it's the M50, 15-45mm and the 55-200mm. The most expensive camera in the world will not make one a better photographer.
Totally agree!!
which lens is better? 18-150 or 55-250?
They’re both about the same as far as quality goes. So it really depends on whether you need a wider or more telephoto lens.
I own an M6 II and an R5 and my wife an M50 with various lenses ans we love each of them for a different reason and application. When we shoot “bread & butter” the iPhone enters the stage too…. shoot what and with whatever makes you happy👍👋
Perfectly said! The best camera in the world is the one you have in your hand!!
An excellent comparison. I love my M50 and twin lens zoom outfit. I've had it for 18 months mk1.
Yes!
Great video, I have the 5D-4 but refuse to take it on holiday so bought the M 50 and I now find I am using it more and more with EF glass and converter.
It's a great little camera and the body is definitely smaller. You should try getting some of the native and Mount lenses it makes the whole kit very easy to travel with.
Great video Eric. I have both the RP and the M50 and, although I love the RP’s output with the 24-105L, I am normally grabbing the M50 to go out due to the convenience of carrying a lighter combo. Image quality is good enough for what I do. Ralph Goldstein, a landscape photographer in CZcams, recently gave up a Nikon ff kit due to back and neck problems while hiking and started ‘temporarily’ using his vlogging camera (M50) for stills. Almost a year later the temporary became permanent, he has had no IQ issues whatsoever in his work, normally shooting on a tripod at f8 or 11.
Thanks for producing these videos about ‘photography on a budget’, love them and they really motivate folks to get into the hobby regardless of income bracket.
I am hoping Canon will come up with a very small, $500-700 camera in the R mount soon. The RP is small for sure but not as small as the M50 and there are no really small zoom lenses to go with it yet (there are rumored 18-45 and 17-70 which could be APSC…fingers crossed).
Great points and thanks for watching!
Excellent points Eric. I was lucky and got my EF-M 55-200 used for $199 on Amazon about 2 years ago.
Nice!
Valuable information here. My observations of this video is the big lense is naturally brighter. But, other than that, there is not much difference between the 2 unless you are pixel peeping. Thank you for this.
Totally correct!
just got my m50 mark ii yesterday and im glad i saw this video.. very helpful and informative :)
Happy to help!
And while I know the review is to compare the m50's compactness vs the R5 (I own both), never forget the m50's secret weapon...the speed booster. 😎👌Great review, and keep up the good work.
That speed booster adds quite a few more lens choices to the M50 lineup!
This lens, the sigma 56mm f1.4, and the canon 22mm f2 are all you need to cover everything.
I would say the kit lens kinda sucks though. I'm comparing it to the sigma however
Great review, thanks
Happy to help!
This is an awesome comparison. I'm thinking that my M50 with one of these on it will make a great companion to my 6D & 16-35 set up on a tripod for my main shot. Plus, I can shoot tele while I'm waiting for my lighting on my main camera.
Thanks, that definitely could work. With the right camera lens combination the M50 can get you some really nice shots.
@@BillEricPhotography right. I mean, I've gotten some shots with the M50 and an EF-S 10-18MM that are incredible. The only reason I went back to full frame was to incorporate astro back into my landscapes and the 6D & 16-35 f2.8 II is an awesome kit for that.
This was actually pretty useful. Might make the plunge and get this lense second hand and try my luck on novice bird photography here in Finland. I know a place with storks and kingfishers
Happy to help
I Had The 5D MKII & III Had To downsize because of the weight factor and ergonomics as i now have arthritis in most joints hand holding the full frame was not comfortable any more and was having to tripod mount them i got the M50 MkI with kit lens and EFM 55-200 and find i can use for longer periods i sold my 70/200L but kept the 24/70L although i dont use it that much
Nice setup!
Gents! As one who's still ticking along with an 80D (and a 60D as a backup) this one made me feel better about staying the course on my old APS-C gear a while longer (80D and M50 same, or nearly same sensor & DIGIC chip, if memory serves) and making my next camera tech purchase a drone. Curious where you're heading to chase fall foliage this year? Happy to offer some local knowledge if you're ever interested in the waterfalls and covered bridges in Bucks County PA.
We were actually thinking of heading into Pennsylvania. Any info you could give us we would appreciate. If you want you could PM us over on an hour Disney image makers Facebook or Instagram page. Thanks
Very detail thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I wish they would make a 70-200 for the ef-m mount. I use a canon m6 mark ii, basically a m50, and I would really like a native 2.8 rather than using an adapter.
That would be fantastic. A traditional 70 to 200 is very cumbersome on the M50 because the body is so small. The adapter only makes it worse.
It may not even matter for large size prints. Because as the image enlarges, the viewing distance increases accordingly and the ability of the human eye to discern detail decreases with distance.
Good point!
Hi Eric, just caught this vlog. I prefer doing stills using my Canon DSLRs for which I have EF glass but for "lightweight carry" purposes also use an M6 MkII and an M5. What you are saying is absolutely right but the following for what it's worth: I had a 55-200 lens but traded it for the 18-150 which I find is a more flexible option however and whilst I don't care too much for mounting EF glass on M bodies there is one lens that I find works a treat, my 70-200 f4 with or without a x1.4 multiplier. Perhaps because of the tripod collar giving you a good hand grip, it makes a great and well balanced combination.
I think your key point about whether you need a fast lens for most circumstances is right on the money, why carry all that weight if you are going to be shooting at f8-f11 anyway ?
That F4 lens is a great option. It's smaller and lighter and you can still get a nice out of focus area in the back ground.
Guess that's why Canon abandoned the ef-m system; they are too damn good.
Yeah probably
Thank you for justifying my purchase and reminding me to wipe the dust off my camera and actually use it.
haha yes!
Great review. Wish that you compare the R5, M50 against the M6 mk ii too.😄 May I know the ISO settings of the Canon M50 you used? Usually I will try to keep it at ISO 100 but sometime the image produced is too dark. 🤣 Hence, i crank up the ISO. I realised that even at ISO 6400 with the EF-M 55-200mm on a cloudy day produce pretty stunning results. 😄
Thanks! I shot these at ISO 200. I agree we’ve gotten very good results with the M50 at 6400. We have a video coming up comparing high ISO shots on the M50.
Great video
Thank you!
Ehy Eric, I have a M50 and I would like to buy the EF-m 55-200MM ef for it. I have to shoot and make videos indoor to horses. I'm a little scared about the poor light and how this lens will manage it keeping a good quality. What would you suggest? :)
You might want to try renting it and see if it works for you if it doesn't you could try prime lenses but that could get expensive. Also and adapted 70 to 200 2.8 would probably be the perfect lens. It's big and definitely more money but you might be able to find a used one that you can adapt to the m50
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I suggest to compare R5 to M6ii with 18-150. You'll be amazed.
Will do thanks!
Really the only thing that 200 2.8 is good for is birds or sports upclose in action portraiture
Mostly you can just use older shitty ef lenses on the m50 and be just fine
Or even manual old glass
The real life test is the only real test.
Totally agree!
I wish you would compare them at night.
That’s coming soon…
Thanks for saving me thousands of dollars.
Happy to help!