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Komentáře • 397

  • @ChippNDipp
    @ChippNDipp Před 2 lety +59

    Pro tip: send graded card slabs to other graders and get the slabs graded. Double or even triple graded cards are worth 2-3x as much.

    • @UKinQ8Gaming
      @UKinQ8Gaming Před 2 lety +9

      Imagine grading a graded grade. Thats like adding gravy to my gravy so my gravy is more gravy.

    • @ultravalor7028
      @ultravalor7028 Před 2 lety +4

      Yo dawg, I herd u liek grading

    • @ultravalor7028
      @ultravalor7028 Před 2 lety

      @@justinclement5417 Mudkipz

    • @DijaVlogsGames
      @DijaVlogsGames Před 2 lety +1

      That’s unironically what they do in coin collecting. There are graders who grade other grader’s grades.

    • @ultravalor7028
      @ultravalor7028 Před 2 lety

      @@justinclement5417 It's an old meme. Nvm

  • @WesternCommie
    @WesternCommie Před 2 lety +42

    Who is crazy enough to grade cards worth less than the cost of grading? That is insane to me.

    • @Ouijawii
      @Ouijawii Před 2 lety

      ri$h people.

    • @venge1894
      @venge1894 Před 2 lety +17

      Overzealous collectors whom are not primarily in it for the money/investment.

    • @fsmoura
      @fsmoura Před 2 lety +2

      just lock in those grades before it shoots up to the moon and they get more cautious/strict

    • @theetiologist9539
      @theetiologist9539 Před 2 lety +2

      Well...if it makes the card worth more than the price of grading then it makes sense. But most likely a lot of it is just speculative. It seems like we might be entering an era similar to what comics entered back in the day, where people were going after every comic and collecting them even though they weren't really all that rare or desirable. Kind of like Tulips back in the day.

    • @charlesluo3114
      @charlesluo3114 Před 2 lety +5

      You haven't seen the ridiculous premiums people put on grades. A $5 getting a PSA 10 can sell for $400. Yes people are dumb enough to buy them.

  • @charlesh4333
    @charlesh4333 Před 2 lety +65

    My theory is, when PSA and Beckett open back up. They will get an overflow of cards again and be shut down again.

    • @sourdough_ak998
      @sourdough_ak998 Před 2 lety

      I think that's exactly right, I really don't think they have the means to expand enough to actually handle the market the way it is right now, for at least a few years. The obvious idea would be that the newer and smaller companies would try their hand and naturally organize themselves out as either scams or worthy of legitimacy.

    • @josueestrada8688
      @josueestrada8688 Před 2 lety +6

      IMO, I don’t think so. All this spending came to be because of all the stimulus money floating around. They cut the stimulus bills and cut the extra for unemployment. It should settle down

    • @charlesh4333
      @charlesh4333 Před 2 lety

      @@josueestrada8688 even if that is true, why wouldn’t people with money they have now go get their cards graded even more to maximize profits like they did if they had stimulus money.

    • @fsmoura
      @fsmoura Před 2 lety +2

      Profits!? All my stimmy money plays came out averaging -95% (" ;-;) 📉

    • @christianmathew398
      @christianmathew398 Před 2 lety +8

      I agree, to be blunt about it my friends who stay home and smoke pot and complain about capitalism wanted to make quick cash with their stimulus. They are NOT serious collectors/investors.

  • @josephs.4813
    @josephs.4813 Před 2 lety +15

    I’m seeing ads on CZcams for some random grading company. The beanie baby era is upon us yet again

  • @forcryingoutloud23
    @forcryingoutloud23 Před 2 lety +11

    CGC has a history with CBs so if you're comfortable there i believe their standards are equivalent to BGS

  • @Skeetr86
    @Skeetr86 Před 2 lety +32

    This video means: Rudy is buying all graded cards, no matter the grader.

    • @abomb420
      @abomb420 Před 2 lety

      Lol I got that to.ans he's right man

  • @cheevosmith892
    @cheevosmith892 Před 2 lety +18

    LMAO, Rudy thinks we are going back to normal 😆

    • @tannerprince9730
      @tannerprince9730 Před 2 lety

      Cheevo over here is using the new grading companies lol

    • @cheevosmith892
      @cheevosmith892 Před 2 lety +1

      @@tannerprince9730 Nah, I just think the economy is fuct and we aren't going back to normal anytime soon. That's why you hear this "new normal" term being thrown around.

    • @firstandlast.1254
      @firstandlast.1254 Před 2 lety +1

      I love how we're two years into this and Rudy's opinion is that "it'll be back to normal in three to nine months" LOL. Sure bud. But he doesn't care, he's invested with the big dogs. This video is literally just a hit piece against possible competition.

  • @geraldpowell4403
    @geraldpowell4403 Před 2 lety +25

    CGC will be one of the biggest companies for card grading, they are already the biggest in Comics, coins and the other collectibles. They are also a division of Fanatics who just got exclusives on cards for MLB, NBA and the NFL. Psa and Beckett is now in the ring with a company that can do it faster and cheaper.

    • @forcryingoutloud23
      @forcryingoutloud23 Před 2 lety +6

      Yeah I second this. CGC has a decent history

    • @mrdmd5697
      @mrdmd5697 Před 2 lety +2

      It’s going to be really hard for them to muscle in. The Whale money is with BGS and PSA slabs. Hard to get people to change their collection.

    • @_DanielFernandez_
      @_DanielFernandez_ Před 2 lety

      @@mrdmd5697 it's probably different at the top, but at the bottom PSAs/BGS are getting fire sold on equal ground to startups and other brands. Been buying all brands for pennies on the dollar. BuT have had surprising luck having people accept lowball offers on psa8s and below. Was waiting for the the massive covid submission returns to stock up on my oddball PC stuff , and it has paid off. Will Definitely be interesting to see the arbitrage that takes place among grading collectors/buyers/flippers.

  • @arkerness7754
    @arkerness7754 Před 2 lety +15

    I think there is a place for these small businesses particularly outside of the US, as the best, cost effective way to slab to protect your collection. I use a couple of companies in Australia for that reason. Anyone who is hoping to add value with these smaller guys is going to be unhappy.

    • @dr.jambonius7479
      @dr.jambonius7479 Před 2 lety +1

      True. Here is Canada, BGS/PSA, even before Covid was too costly (Initial cost + exchange rate + shipping + insurances booth ways + shipping again + taxes + brohers fee), I graded very few myself... sometime for high value cards it went near 500$ for 1 card.
      I still purchase BGS already graded cards and I love them. But when grading my personnal raw cards, i use MNT Canada. Even though they are small, their standard is extremelly high (Almost impossible to get a 10/10) and price to grade is correct (Not cheap, but affordable).

  • @simongamer987
    @simongamer987 Před 2 lety +6

    I don’t think PSA/BGS will be back to normal for a couple years, but I agree with everything else you had to say

  • @FlukeAndBox
    @FlukeAndBox Před 2 lety +5

    Agree with the logic here. But if you are based anywhere outside of the USA, Beckett and PSA are not accessible and carry further shipping risk too (and added cost to ship).
    There is a "new" grading company that CFB will be using thats an old coin grading company from NZ. Time will tell if the premium can catch BGS (they do subgrades).
    The first company to show reliably AI graded cards and consistency that will come with that is probably going to take the cake here

  • @MTG69
    @MTG69 Před 2 lety +21

    Pretty sure the backlog at PSA and Beckett is my fault. I submitted 2,781,069 Star Wars TCG cards to Beckett, and 2,269,013 to PSA, about a year ago. I hope one of my Slave Leia foils grades a 10.

  • @2ndcitysaint52
    @2ndcitysaint52 Před 2 lety +43

    cgc is gonna start getting more and more recognition for cards over the next year or 2 theres already a massive flood of cgc cards in the pokemon space, from what Ive bought and seen they grade really tough as well.

    • @foxtelremote
      @foxtelremote Před 2 lety +17

      They have the pedigree from their presence in the comic grading industry. They are the sleeping giant imo, and are best positioned to overtake/stand beside the big 2.

    • @randomsanctum
      @randomsanctum Před 2 lety +8

      CGC is established and has decent turnaround times. I've been submitting to them exclusively since they started accepting Magic cards.

    • @nullifiedmindz
      @nullifiedmindz Před 2 lety +9

      CGC has clout through the comic industry and their cousin company NGC is a market leader for graded currencies/coins.

    • @ZeRockOfficial
      @ZeRockOfficial Před 2 lety +3

      Ya but they do garbage work, no inner sleeve, so many shoty work. Over priced also

    • @randomsanctum
      @randomsanctum Před 2 lety +6

      @@ZeRockOfficial I've had zero issues with my CGC-slabbed cards. And $25 per card is expensive? 🤷

  • @pearcey1113
    @pearcey1113 Před 2 lety

    The info we all get from you Rudy is priceless I hope people realise this, I just wanted to say a massive thank you 🙏 cheers from Australia 🇦🇺

  • @magusofthebargain
    @magusofthebargain Před 2 lety +1

    You ever notice that there is no song titled "Oh baby, I like it graded"?

  • @thomaslennex8969
    @thomaslennex8969 Před 2 lety +21

    Rudy when are you going to announce your own grading company?

    • @bccbcc3935
      @bccbcc3935 Před 2 lety +3

      Justin Clement exactly, Rudy does not grade cards, he remove them from market, forever.

  • @seankeane769
    @seankeane769 Před 2 lety +3

    I saw some Pokémon cards graded at comic con by a company that has graded comic books forever… I believe it was cgc or something like that but they have been in the grading business for so long… think something like that will last long term considering it’s their market they have been in for decades?

  • @ZegotTV
    @ZegotTV Před 2 lety +2

    Curious on your thoughts on CGC? I believe they are the only other company that will continue to be successful post boom. Would love to hear your thoughts on them.

  • @vaxxeenmtg9733
    @vaxxeenmtg9733 Před 2 lety +2

    i dropped a nice cradle off at a CGC booth at gencon. should be here in a few days. hoping for a 9! only card ive gotten graded

  • @GreyShirtGuy
    @GreyShirtGuy Před 2 lety

    This suddenly reminds me of dog registration. There is the AKC which was founded in 1800s and then there is the ACA has been running a registry since the 1980s. I remember when my mom wanted a purebred Mastiff, the breeder was some gentlemen in the backwoods of Virginia. The mother/father dogs appeared purebred, but they were not ACA registered, so their pups were not. He had his two dogs registered under the ACA and this was a big issue about the cost of the puppies.
    I was completely confused why this mattered because I knew my mother wasn't going to breed her new dog intentionally, and wasn't going to take it to shows. In the end we had one litter and she did sell off all but one puppy, but had to keep the price lower since they were only ACA certified. She got two very loyal and lovable dogs out of the whole ordeal. So when you're comparing card grading companies it just reminds me of dog registration.

  • @CapCitySports
    @CapCitySports Před rokem

    Good video Rudy. This is still relevant a year later 👍🏼

  • @24thcenturycardboard92

    If one were going to start a new card grading company now to take advantage of the (probably temporary) approximate collapse of PSA and BGS, and one wanted to actually win and continue to be successful and meaningful once PSA and BGS come on line again, one would want to offer some sort of distinguishing attribute. Some way in which one's product was different or better than what PSA and BGS offer.
    As far as I can tell, the upstarts currently are all "we'll put your cards in a slab that's almost as nice looking but is otherwise basically the same". So, yeah, I imagine that they'll fade back into obscurity once the "big dogs" come back to the table. (If BGS and PSA can manage to avoid too much more scandal, anyway)

  • @Globalnet626
    @Globalnet626 Před 2 lety +24

    I don't have the space or the desire to hold onto card game collectibles but your analysis and generic financial advice has helped me afford more than double the floppy tacos. Thank you Rudy, hopefully my YOLO into oom burrito spreads closing tomorrow will print money.

  • @SketchingHands
    @SketchingHands Před 2 lety +3

    Let’s talk about how PSA lowered their grading quality last year. This was admitted here on CZcams.

  • @sleezy7752
    @sleezy7752 Před 2 lety

    Is it not at all possible to become a patreon member? is says its sold out. Id like to purchase a draft box if possible, any help would be much appreciated!

  • @Zerostatik
    @Zerostatik Před 2 lety +7

    Waiting for the graded new comic crap to implode. I could be wrong (I own a few BTW so can't really say much) but it just seems comic shops are mass grading new comics to the point that a 9.8 will mean nothing soon.

    • @crazyrabbits
      @crazyrabbits Před 2 lety +2

      This is why I'm extremely concerned about the state of the market -- as it stands, the majority of the comic books I still own (sold off half of them years ago, and I'm down to a longbox) are not worth sending in to be graded. I have signed books I acquired in-person years ago (Chris Clarement and Adam Kubert, among others) that likely wouldn't pass muster on any sort of grading service because I didn't pay the upcharge at the time I acquired the books to have them authenticated/graded. Anything below a 9.6 is functionally meaningless from a cost/benefit standpoint, and I don't have the time or inclination to micromanage or try to figure out the intricacies of the market.

  • @spyder2238
    @spyder2238 Před 2 lety

    I’m waiting a long time to start the grading my
    my cards, it’s too much of a mess right now

  • @ArgosAnon
    @ArgosAnon Před 2 lety +2

    Can’t wait for PSA to open again so I can pay $45 to wait 18 months for a card and then not know why they gave it a 9 instead of a 10.

  • @randomsanctum
    @randomsanctum Před 2 lety +12

    CGC is the way to go. Well-known, respected and established in the collectibles market. Their turnaround times are decent, and their labels are uniform across everything they grade. I've been submitting to them ever since they started accepting Magic cards, and I won't stop now.
    Oh, let's not forget CGC is very good at building population reports / census reports for the items they grade. If they do that with their upcoming video game division, they'll already have a massive step up on WATA.

    • @thawhiteazn
      @thawhiteazn Před 2 lety +6

      Yep. Rudy calls the grading company top dogs the big two, but it really should be the big 3 at this point.

    • @Reggaetonaldo
      @Reggaetonaldo Před 2 lety +5

      They're too new in the card world. Wait till after the two big companies come back. The value will drop futher down. They're already valued less on average compared to the two.

    • @thawhiteazn
      @thawhiteazn Před 2 lety +2

      @@iMixMaSteR1 thanks for the cryptic response, super helpful for those of us that don’t know what you’re talking about

    • @randomsanctum
      @randomsanctum Před 2 lety

      @@thawhiteazn He's replying with negativity on other CGC comments as well. Must be one of those "CBCS or Bust" comic guys.

    • @Max-io7xe
      @Max-io7xe Před 2 lety +2

      @@Reggaetonaldo If anything, the opposite will be true. CGC is harsh and consistent enough that you could easily cross over CGC to PSA/BGS. When PSA/BGS come back, this will be much easier. Right now, because of PSA/BGS being closed, no one's buying CGC slabs to crossgrade.

  • @EpicTubeHD
    @EpicTubeHD Před 2 lety +1

    I believe a key point was missed. The small newer start ups probably won’t make it, but they’ll hopefully force the big 3 to make much needed changes in grading. Number one being transparency. We’ve interviewed 2 new grading companies on our Cardboard Addicts podcast this summer and both are providing much needed advancements from AI grading to just being more transparent when our cards receive their grade. Pretty amazing to know and see where the issue was that caused your believed to be 10, returns as an 8 or 9 grade. After all, we are paying them to do a job that has been done half a*s and excepted as normal for far too long. So many other issues with grading companies but thats a debate for another time

    • @ZenturionXYZ
      @ZenturionXYZ Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly! I agree I will say that a lot of what Rudy said was accurate. But if the smaller companies can force the hand of PSA, BGS and CGC to make some changes and be more transparent then that’s a win for us the collectors. Sadly I don’t think anything will change. They don’t need to change and won’t need to change because of the mentality that if it ain’t PSA, BGS, CGC it ain’t worth a damn.
      They have so much business they won’t change. The only real hope is that a company that is transparent makes it to the big leagues. But PSA and Beckett held the big two forever before CGC came in. The only way CGC got in was because of it’s already sheer size and being in the grading space for comics and even then there was a lot of collectors that just didn’t want it to happen or didn’t think it would work out for them.

    • @EpicTubeHD
      @EpicTubeHD Před 2 lety +1

      @@ZenturionXYZ I agree as well. The hope is the now big 3 will be pushed to make changes but it is doubtful sadly. Only blame can be placed on the collectors if they aren’t willing to help force the change. Problem is, too much money is at stake for so many, they won’t change themselves, and it’s understandable when you have a large chunk of capital invested like that. Another issue I have with the big 3 that many of the smaller companies aren’t doing, taking a piece of our pie. We’re paying you to do a job; grade our card. They believe they deserve part of your pie if your pie is worth any value. This to me is a huge conflict of interest. This is what causes corruption. How many times have we seen bull sh*t 10s from PSA over the years? It’s been far too many. Grading cost should be a fixed value, period. It’s the only way to prevent corruption, or as close to. And this doesn’t mean they should be charging you 600 to grade your Michael Jordan Fleer rookie card either. Again, grading companies deciding they want a piece of your pie. Just mpo at the end of the day.

  • @vanzetti7
    @vanzetti7 Před 2 lety +1

    Aw man I hope SGC rises up their with BGS and PSA. They are such a nice company to deal with.

  • @RidgleyDan
    @RidgleyDan Před 2 lety

    As always. Thank you for the content.

  • @AUlex1165
    @AUlex1165 Před 2 lety +1

    wow, rudy finally mentioned Final Fantasy TCG in his video again

  • @bradj9545
    @bradj9545 Před 2 lety

    I’m just wondering … that taco in the background seems to be holding up pretty well over the past year … did Rudy get it scotch guarded? … wonder how it would grade…

  • @pushback4526
    @pushback4526 Před 2 lety

    Well said. Thanks for the save.

  • @RobbieNero
    @RobbieNero Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for your wisdom almighty card man

  • @katielowen
    @katielowen Před 2 lety

    Regarding the closing statement.. Do you think LGCs prefer buying ungraded cards over graded because it’s easier to negotiate a lower price from the buyer?

    • @katielowen
      @katielowen Před 2 lety

      @Lassi Kinnunen 81 gotcha ; yeah I could definitely see that too

  • @RadicalizeLeft
    @RadicalizeLeft Před 2 lety

    2:20 I was Timmy, got some of the question right professor!

  • @kinGhidora
    @kinGhidora Před 2 lety +1

    PSA and BGS for pokemon and other such card games might always hold that king spot in peoples mind but like scg for sports cards I think cgc has a place as well since they are massive in comic grading. The other ones i have no opinion on nor care much for them. Im a PSA fan myself my only RL card is BGS 9 cradle but psa is were I love to grade

  • @skunkybudtoker9092
    @skunkybudtoker9092 Před 2 lety +19

    Imagine that, Rudy selling out to the card grading og's. He's all about the big graders, f the small new companies. BGS and PSA probably give him a floppy taco every time he mentions them.

    • @tanner882
      @tanner882 Před 2 lety

      O How Rudy forgets so easily…..Look at our current situation. Bitcoin exploded, a new currency accepted by the masses. Now combine technology with a rating capabilities and social reach…..the old companies kinda seem lame….what is new companies offer NTF’s with each graded 10? 😏

    • @ZeRockOfficial
      @ZeRockOfficial Před 2 lety +1

      @@tanner882 or you can just mint your own NFTs connected to your psa or bgs graded 10….lol like people already do……do you live under a rock?

    • @Slattstudio
      @Slattstudio Před 2 lety +6

      That's one interpretation, the other would be a warning to average people to be cautious that their ROI with non-proven companies could be negative in the long run

    • @ZeRockOfficial
      @ZeRockOfficial Před 2 lety +1

      @@Slattstudio hell it’s hard enough to make a decent ROI with proven products from proven companies these days……now you got all these sheep to the slaughter thinking they are all baby wolves

    • @dabetapluxx
      @dabetapluxx Před 2 lety +2

      What are the new companies bringing exactly to the table that others aren't already?
      BTC brought something new to the table, the new companies aren't bringing anything, they are simply fulfilling the increased demand.
      GL optimizing an AI grading service without being backed by infinite money.

  • @polishprince47
    @polishprince47 Před 2 lety +6

    Rudy: The Bob's Smear Taco Sauce All Over Magic Cards...

  • @dsmith3112
    @dsmith3112 Před 2 lety +1

    Complete graded Core Sets sounds pretty cool

    • @crazyrabbits
      @crazyrabbits Před 2 lety +1

      If you were able to get cards like that graded for $2-5 a card, sure, I could see the collector's mindset of just having it... but in current age, paying the PSA/BGS per-card price (even at the low-tier) for anything besides the top 1% of any set is just pissing money into the wind.

  • @sdb-sj5qd
    @sdb-sj5qd Před 2 lety

    I've been "pre-grading" cards with companies that appear to have the strictest grading. It allows me to properly catalogue and protect cards while giving me a solid idea of the psa/bgs potential so that I can optimize my submission when the big boys reopen. I also see plenty of undervalued "tough" compny graded cards to buy to crack as well.

  • @elechitman
    @elechitman Před 2 lety

    I 100% agree with you and the newer investors are paying triple or more for a PSA 9 then I use to pay for PSA 10! Plus it will be a common card! I don’t think many grading companies will make it when the market changes! Awesome video!

  • @brandonsmith-wz6hb
    @brandonsmith-wz6hb Před 2 lety

    I think a few companies will have gained a sliver of market share going forward like cgc sgc have a chance… going to still be determined

  • @youtubasoarus
    @youtubasoarus Před 2 lety +1

    So like.... I shouldn't send my cards to Timmy's Basement Trading Card Grading Company? (TBTCGC)

  • @matthewelliott2213
    @matthewelliott2213 Před 2 lety +1

    Slab things for protection and insurance... Authenticity too

  • @floppycheese96
    @floppycheese96 Před 2 lety

    so I recently bought my first slab from a con, complete noob, and some of my cards I think might be quite valuable if I waited and hedged my bets for PSA. But I have a card of my all time favourite pokemon (buizel/floatzel) which I have no interest in selling (in fact I don't really want to sell any of them, just own them with the knowledge that they might be worth something); more so just preserving and displaying for my own personal enjoyment. What I'm scared of happening is that this accessability to grading companies disappearing, and not having the opportunity for this service to my cards. If PSA immediatley get inundated with cards and they close again, maybe these grassroot graders will get several more chances to gain a foothold and solidify their spot in the marketplace when PSA get themselves together.....but hey, this is something only the market can decide

  • @Ornitier23
    @Ornitier23 Před 2 lety +10

    I've got multiple questionable PSA 10's....

    • @fsmoura
      @fsmoura Před 2 lety

      I question all of my PAS 10s

  • @ianundercover6295
    @ianundercover6295 Před 2 lety +4

    Nat Turner said he wants PSA bulk to get back to $10 sometime after first quarter of next year

    • @mannyk1986
      @mannyk1986 Před 2 lety +1

      Probably not gonna happen. Everything is more expensive now, so their cheapest options are probably going to spike in price, hopefully no more than $30/card.

    • @swishswashsmack
      @swishswashsmack Před 2 lety

      Ya good luck with that lol

    • @ianundercover6295
      @ianundercover6295 Před 2 lety

      @@mannyk1986 it will be interesting to see how it plays out. His reasoning was a $10 level submission is needed for the set registry, otherwise too many cards wouldn't make sense to grade

    • @mannyk1986
      @mannyk1986 Před 2 lety

      @@ianundercover6295 I understand that, but he still has to answer to his investing partners. Hiring cost has gone up and they are hiring more and more people at higher salaries, I doubt he can justify a sales margin below the pre-pandemic level.

    • @betapluxx
      @betapluxx Před 2 lety

      "When collector Nat Turner and a group of other investors acquired PSA and the other Collectors Universe properties earlier this year in an $853 million, he promised artificial intelligence would soon become part of the grading process."
      There's no other way than AI here.

  • @ozmond
    @ozmond Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the reassurance. I personally no longer purchase graded cards.
    Only raw for me.

  • @RogueBullhead
    @RogueBullhead Před 2 lety

    Carry a premium? What does that mean? A becket or psa 10 carries a premium?

  • @absoluteinfinity6619
    @absoluteinfinity6619 Před 2 lety +1

    I remember a south park episode where he had a big turd and he graded it.. was worth alot

  • @danw3735
    @danw3735 Před rokem +2

    PCG is fine. Backed by Good Games here in Australia. Stuff sending my cards to the states to get graded.

  • @Xcruciatingpain
    @Xcruciatingpain Před 2 lety

    I'm doing good thank you! How are you?

  • @sneakybobby
    @sneakybobby Před 2 lety

    I got a question for the group. Would it be worth grading a revised tiaga if it would come back as an 8?

    • @Max-io7xe
      @Max-io7xe Před 2 lety

      Definitely not. The market for sub-9.5 Revised duals is comprised of players (aka people who don't want to buy slabs)

  • @knkbrtwasa1738
    @knkbrtwasa1738 Před 2 lety

    This might be a little different in europe since we have very limited access to PSA or BGS

  • @MrVariant
    @MrVariant Před 2 lety

    4:27 lol got a dogecoin ad right after mentioned

  • @MTGUnpacked
    @MTGUnpacked Před 2 lety +1

    Worth getting an entire set of Dragon's Maze graded, or no?🌮

  • @The-skate-collector
    @The-skate-collector Před 2 lety

    Kermit the frogs crazy eyes up there wouldn’t stop looking at me this whole video…

  • @sp123
    @sp123 Před rokem

    Rudy called it...

  • @kb6530
    @kb6530 Před 2 lety +2

    I would buy the 10s from the smaller companies if they are really cheap , psa has no special 10 power , if it's a 10 at Timmy taco shack , it's probably a 9 or 10 at PSA also.....
    Some of these slabs go for 10% of the price of a PSA , I would definitely buy them, like I said PSA is NOT special , The quality of the card does NOT know what company put it into a slab , don't let Rudy confuse you , PSA is NOT worth the money , I may not be "informed" but I am no fool , a 10 over here , is normally a 10 over there , it's just a card...
    Dude just wants PSA prices to go up bc that's where he put his money....but I see it different , the quality of the card has zero connection to who graded it , a grade does not change the quality of the card...

  • @jordanaraujo2579
    @jordanaraujo2579 Před 2 lety +2

    I think there's room for at least one more legitimate card grading company.

  • @watmonlimited6022
    @watmonlimited6022 Před 2 lety

    surely there will be the same scenario... thousands of people with sets of these start up company graded cards who want to continue using the company and completing the set with with poke grade , Ace grading ect? however I'm sure there will be a drop but not everybody can/will be spending even more money re grading with PSA and Beckett especially considering peoples financial circumstances post pandemic , I think these new companies play there part for people who want an affordable option to grading and building there collection.

  • @MrTranzformer1
    @MrTranzformer1 Před 2 lety

    A graded core set is cool to have though just to collect

  • @tomcadden8054
    @tomcadden8054 Před 2 lety

    The only card I have graded is an alpha Wall of Wood. None of my power, duals, reserved list stuff is graded. Because I cant play with it and its harder to sell for a reason.

  • @JohnSmith-kl3nm
    @JohnSmith-kl3nm Před 2 lety +1

    henlo notification squad

  • @cementium
    @cementium Před 2 lety

    that's why i dont understand why either PSA or BGS haven't opened an European or even Asian location.
    It boggles my mind.

  • @patrickbateman69420
    @patrickbateman69420 Před 2 lety

    "I literally just deleted it" lmfaoooo savage Rudy

  • @Archytas-Leroy55
    @Archytas-Leroy55 Před 2 lety

    Rudy. Do you think we will ever go back to "normal"???

  • @michaelblatherwick5324
    @michaelblatherwick5324 Před 2 lety +1

    End of video Rudy: "Did you ever notice..."
    Dudes who submitted Core 2019 Uncommons to BGS: "NAH, I'M GOOD!"

  • @7Alberto7
    @7Alberto7 Před 2 lety

    Time to learn today like everyday,awesome

  • @JW-sz7ku
    @JW-sz7ku Před 2 lety

    Now that collectors universe owns psa and wata do you think this legitimized the wata brand?

  • @user-ci4cw1kn3k
    @user-ci4cw1kn3k Před 2 lety

    ok really, can anyone tell me why Rudy dont grade his card?I dont get what he is trying to say.

  • @DadsAPleb
    @DadsAPleb Před 2 lety

    So let's open Taco Sauce Grading, just you and me Rudy.

  • @moreplease394
    @moreplease394 Před 2 lety +4

    I received a 1 rating on a pristine card from SGC but the letter said it was authenticated as a 10. When I contacted the company about the obvious mistake they graciously offered to fix the mistake and pay for shipping both ways but when I got the card back it was in worse condition and rated a 7. It's so obvious that the person opened the plastic case and damaged the card and then graded it after they damaged it.... So now my pristine error Sarah Jean Underwood POTY signed copy is worthless! All the good parts are covered in some weird sticky substance now too and closed within the case? Never again will I use them!

  • @FCT70
    @FCT70 Před 2 lety +2

    I wouldn't send a basic land to PSA or BGS. They are horrible companies. I would use the CCG for any grading, if that were my thing.

  • @g1stylempdesign929
    @g1stylempdesign929 Před 2 lety +1

    Anyone remember GAI grading???
    Sooo many stories of opening old sealed wax and then slabbing the pack with a High grade to prevent or disincline people to crack them revealing the scam. Stolen cards, lost cards, damaged cards
    You don’t want to use a cheaper company.

  • @michaelraven6325
    @michaelraven6325 Před 2 lety

    smashing video

  • @neverrip7132
    @neverrip7132 Před 2 lety

    If I were looking for a grader, the thing I want the most is the sweetest card protection. Idc about the grade. Protect card, and I pay.
    50c hard slip is good enough for me tbh. Cos idc about grade. I don't have anything worth much.
    I spent 2000 on mtg last year, 0 on grading ha!

  • @corporalkills
    @corporalkills Před 2 lety +1

    I’m gonna start a new basement grading company. 20 bucks a card with grades ranging from “Hell Yeah” to “It’s Aight.” To “Shits Fucked”

  • @smalltown4855
    @smalltown4855 Před 2 lety

    I definitely want to sketch out the outline of a bowl of Brazil nuts now. either that or throw a giant gong off a mountain ledge.

  • @Ouijawii
    @Ouijawii Před 2 lety

    Supply and demand. The demand is don't make us wait 1.5 YEARS.

  • @tcgwarrior
    @tcgwarrior Před 2 lety +1

    I primarily use BGS for Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh, PSA for Pokémon and MTG, And then I'm in love with DSG for Metazoo! The arcane label designed by one of the Metazoo artists Kris Kampmann is beautiful! I understand the market in TCGs is picky especially when you're talking about individual collections but you can't always just cancel out a company. I still like CGC and DSG for certain things.

  • @expensivecardboard
    @expensivecardboard Před 2 lety

    It's going to be the 2020 junk slaps Era

  • @davidrosenzweig1380
    @davidrosenzweig1380 Před 2 lety

    damn i was just thinking about starting one for real lol

  • @bigshirley8658
    @bigshirley8658 Před 2 lety +11

    Beckett is going down I think. A lot of bad press coming out of their grading methods and founders being in jail for fraud and corruption etc.

    • @ZeRockOfficial
      @ZeRockOfficial Před 2 lety +1

      That doesn’t matter. The people who hold the slabs already matter. The company could go out of business and that effects the market zero. It’s still on the holders to set the price.

    • @wilfredhuggenbottom
      @wilfredhuggenbottom Před 2 lety

      @@ZeRockOfficial To say it would have zero effect is a little aggressive. Set collectors are generally going to want uniformity in their collection. Its not like BGS graded cards would go to zero, but in this hypothetical post-BGS world, as more people build sets under different grading companies, you can assume at least some price fall off on BGS slabs as sellers start to realize their piece of cardboard wrapped in hard plastic isnt exactly what the market is looking for... However, its safe to assume the mega-grails, super rare, high grades wouldnt dip much, if at all, because then you're dealing with a supply issue (i.e. I'm not going to be able to find a raw Gem Mint Alpha Lotus on the Market, so this BGS slab that says its a Gem Mint Lotus is a guarantee that if I buy it I can cross grade it to my slab of choice and be confident it will come out Gem Mint on the other side)... All this is purely hypothetical though as its very difficult to imagine BGS going under.

    • @bigshirley8658
      @bigshirley8658 Před 2 lety

      Not about the money. If their grading quality declines and continues to be erratic and not uniform card to card, then it’s slab value might go down

  • @trancedarkdust90
    @trancedarkdust90 Před 2 lety +1

    I didn’t have the heart……..but I’ll tell the world and you know Timmy is watching. Too bad about the money, nothing to feel bad about as a collector. Neat idea, as a collector. Bad idea, as an investor.

  • @RustedInfection
    @RustedInfection Před 2 lety +1

    they need competition, it will help lower their absurd prices. They have a monopoly right now and its bs.

  • @Kavewolf1989
    @Kavewolf1989 Před 2 lety +3

    Although PSA only takes cards worth 2.5k dollars or more, if you do have an expensive card to get graded, it gets done fast.
    I recently sent in an arknight shard for grading and it took em about a week to grade and ship back.
    I was surprised.
    Note that I had to do the super express 300 dollar grading. I think that's the second cheapest they offer ATM

  • @MrSteveHTube
    @MrSteveHTube Před 2 lety

    I'll take the over on PSA and BGS being back to normal in a year.

  • @kevinf8439
    @kevinf8439 Před 2 lety

    I don't really care for you magic content, but your finance content is great.

  • @imjody
    @imjody Před 2 lety +1

    Didn't Greedy PSA say they'd be fully opened by July 2021?! 😂 They were WAY off with that one. PSA can eat it if you ask me.

  • @ricardoblikman2676
    @ricardoblikman2676 Před 2 lety +1

    Dont really agree Rudy on the slab grade value when its low. A slabbed card is a guarantee that it is not fake for people who can not distinguish real from fakes or those who got scammed.

  • @The_Night_Driver
    @The_Night_Driver Před 2 lety

    Competition is always good for the market, the crea. Will float to top, the rest will fail.

  • @SOLtoo
    @SOLtoo Před 2 lety

    if Beckett and PSA can't meet demand or are over-charging customers then more power to the new startups _PROVIDING_ that they are accurate.

  • @fabgradedcollector7437

    Completely agree, especially with Flesh and Blood.

  • @j.p.5106
    @j.p.5106 Před 2 lety +6

    Plot twist Rudy is actually scared his PSA and BGS slaps will be less valuable when they get surpassed by the under dogs

  • @hometownhobbies103
    @hometownhobbies103 Před 2 lety

    some of these new grading companies do great with sports cards but are not famaliar with the CCG world.

  • @theboringchannel2027
    @theboringchannel2027 Před 9 měsíci

    Fast forward a couple of years
    and Rudy becomes 69% OWNER of PCG GRADING.
    Collectors - pay attention to Rudy's advice in this video about little know grading services.
    Rudy - after you close down PCG grading when you tire of the losses incurred,
    you should have LISTENED TO YOUR OWN ADVICE.