WELDING THICK METAL TO THIN METAL WITHOUT BLOWING THROUGH
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- čas přidán 27. 10. 2022
- Welding thick metal to thin metal can be tricky! Today I'm going to share how you can weld thin metal to thick metal without blowing through. This comes up a lot when you're using premade lightweight gates and many other situations.
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Having been a heavy duty mechanic / welder for 35 plus years I have seen many struggle with trying to stick thick and thin pieces together. It’s a bit tricky yes but as you just showed and explained very well. It’s not that hard to do with proper technique and a little practice. Important to concentrate the heat to the thicker piece and just let the weld puddle flow to the thinner material great video again 👍
I’m 18 and gonna be a heavy duty mechanic/ welder also great advice
@@scotthintz8416 it’s a good trade. It can’t be automated
Put the heat on the thicker metal and allow the puddle to wash over the thinner metal
Lol that's basically it. I have an over head project coming up where the thin metal is on top with a 1/4 plate on bottom. Wish me luck I'm rusty!
A Ross I’ve been watching you for a long time now and I realize that I really have gotten a lot of input from you and a lot of information has helped me along the way now I’m ready for that school that you were offering so I’m gonna look into that here real soon buddy thank you very much
Thank you for taking the time to teach things like this im a rancher that has no experience in welding but because of your videos have been able to build my own cattle corral and head chute and pipe fenceing.
Pleasure is all mine! Thank you for taking the time to watch and share this message!
Thank you so much Austin. That just fixed my whole week!! That puddle footage and explanation brings back so many memories I can't hardly explain it.
That's so cool that you realized that these lessons are relevant to our trade. I've worked with 100's of welder's in a 45+ year career. Learned what you just did long ago the hard way. I'm very impressed with your whole gitdown. Your make em not break em, approach to teaching is the right way. Myself learned how as a helper until good enough to test out. Political philosophies have destroyed jobs here in California. You ever need a assistant instructor or any kind of help please holler
Thank you Austin. I've been watching your videos for a very very long time since you came out and I just want to say thank you. You taught me a lot All. I'm just starting to begin to get in welding and it'll be my birthday next Friday
You are a natural Teacher Austin. All the best from Australia
I ain’t nothing but a ol mig welder but I still enjoy watching you talk on these videos
Excellent video. I really enjoy how you explain what you are doing and why. I learned to weld in high school way back about 30 years ago! Could have used some of your tips over the years. Keep em coming and I'll keep watching!
Thanks for sharing with us Austin. That was awesome today. Always learning from your videos. Fred.
Thank you for these tips they are very helpful.
Excellent material!!!! Regards from Buenos Aires, Argentina!!!
Great video simple instructions right to the point
That's about the finest 6010 results I've seen. I really enjoyed watching thru the auto darkening filter. Many thanks!
clear video for sure
Man your videos have gotten really good. Hopefully one day I can get this youtube stuff figured out too.
Thank you for your video Austin, very helpful! God Bless.
That's some good information, thanks for sharing.
Nice tip's and arc shot's. Keep'em coming
Great arc shots!
Well said. Nice video Austin
Very good Video 👍👍
Thank you. Very informative. Very helpful.
Pleasure is all mine
Thank you Austin
Excellent video.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks again ARoss!
Great vid, love your content!
Thanks! Thank you for watching!
What an awesome dude willing to share the love of welding the right way, I only wish everyone practiced the joy of life god allows. You are the best, very proud to subscribe to your blessings
Thanks man a big help
Here in the UK, "thin" is anything under 2mm or roughly 1/16th of an inch.
So anything above that is weldable without the risk of blowing a hole as soon as you arc up or make short stitch welds.
Nice tip about welding a stub to the round. The arc really likes to jump around when welding tube like that
Thanks for that Austin
Some good tips Austin.👍 I might mention that when you weld that fish plate and don’t seal the ends, water can get in there and promote rusting. When practical, I like to close up the material on all sides especially if you plan to paint or powder coat. Otherwise you will get rust streaks on the finish.
Very very helpful
Excellent.
I really dig your videos, greetings from Indiana
thanks to show us the correct way to this, thanks for share it
I learned to weld while working for rumpke. Replacing bottoms on dumpsters and roll offs, you learn to weld thick to thin. New to old essentially. Had to hold fluids otherwise it's a 10000 fine from the EPA per can. I learned real quick
That’s going out of your way in the name of education, really shoes your dedication to help others. Excellent job!!!!
Austin thanks for this one, I'm adding an extension to a metal gas tank and the addition is much thicker metal compared to the original tank
Austin thanks for those tips. good job, blessings
You bet! Thank you for watching!
Thank you for your assistance. I have limited experience in welding and am attempting to weld a wheel bracket onto the front of my mower. I have tried using a 6013 and a 6011 at 70 amps, but have only burned through the lighter deck material in my attempts using a Hobart Stickmate LX
great tutorial watched the whole video
Best regards from Peru
this is some good stuff
thank you
You bet! Thank you for watching!
AR, thank you for your educational points. What camera and lens did you use? Happy New Year to you.
Nice tips Austin. Please see if you can do some videos on removing weld using oxy/act torch. Thanks
Struggle with this welding expanded metal to my trailer gate . Lots of practice needed
Love the way you teach. Could you explain in up and coming videos if you are running (110 or 220) for us yahoo’s in their driveway who have both. Is (220) always preferred in any case? Thank You!
Love seeing that splatter from the 6010 rod in the dark lens
Hay slick you need some insulators on that stinger. Great job.
You: see how I'm just touching the thicker material?
Me: It looks so easy! I surely can do that!
Also me after 15 blown holes: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!
Another reason to get the paint off before welding (besides it makes a cleaner, stronger weld) is that the arc burning the paint off can create phosgene gas which is INSANELY harmful to breathe in. Awesome video though, I really learn a lot from you!
I got a 300d do a lot of pipe work and been thinking about buying a sae but the Corse currant or as you called main kind of makes me feel like I’d be trying to figure the Machine out for a long time be for I would get it how did you adjust to it from gears and like when you weld low high like that to have to figure it out see where it’s better I guess my question is how long it take you to get that machine figured what dose it do to the ark and would you go back to gears or stay corse currant
I usually weld with rancher gloves like yours. A lot easier for jobs where you aren't doing a lot of big passes.
Always favor the greater heat sink (heavier material ) Doing a fish plate as Austin describes spreads out the dynamic load stresses cracking of welds will be reduced or in the heat affected zone beside the weld
always remember fish plates will work best with round corners or an oval shape. stress maximizes at corners
hello, I'm wondering which is better, transformer or converter welding machine? pros and cons of each! and which one do you use or which one do you recommend! can you please make a video on this topic? thank you very much
Question~ I’m not a welder, but I weld a lot. I don’t use a Lincoln SA-300, or 200. But usually a Miller MIG, or trailblazer 275. How do the settings on a SA200 or 300 run over to say a Miller digital? Basically I don’t know the 2 dial setup. Thanks!
Man, you restart 6010 so easily. I can burn a whole fresh stick of 6010 with no issues, but trying to restart one is like herding cats for me. I tend to just throw the stick away and grab a fresh one.
Love your chanell i'm about to start welding, im practicing for test any recomendations?
his recommendations are a tiny picture of himself with a heart symbol - i hope that helps for your test
Now i want to see you weld whats in the thumbnail lol 😆
I love your tags. LOL autin ros
Dangit, I still got half a coffee left...👍👍
Question,is the good welding depends on the machine or it don't matter?
I mean what do you think of the Chinese welding machines?
I use a 3/32 6010 and then cap with a 3/32 7018. It gives me more material to work with.
good idea - first bead becomes a heat sink
Could this still be done if the thick piece of metal could not be put against the thin piece as in your video. If the thick piece had to be under, I would think that it would be impossible to have a pool without dripping away from the thin piece if that makes any sense.
do a video on stainless to mild steel using stainless wire 0.45, i do it all the time at my job and it's tough to make it look good, keep the vids coming
309 or 309L is some incredible stuff. I ran a little at home and now I wanna do some at work...
@@wargamingsupernoob im not too sure, its wire from Germany, i build clamps that hold sheets inside of a transformer but its tricky, not too many videos online with mild steel and stainless
Austin, What would the actual amps be that you were set to? Thanks
I’m not sure… lol
Hmm gotta get me some 6010 I've never welded with it before, 6011 yes but it's hard to get where I live it's all 7018. Couple weeks ago, I was doing a patch job on the dump box of the dump truck I drive. I used 3/16s the original metal maybe 10 gauge it was a pain in the ass to weld. I did it with the wire feed running .045 flux core I was going texas tig welding with a wire feed there was thin spots (rusted) on the inside of the box I couldn't see it. Striking the arc then dragging it to where you want to start never knew that trick in all the years, I've been in steel fab.
the drag start is a code work thing. it allows any arc strike to be welded over and included in a hot weld bead. also preheats metal a bit
You need to keep hinges just as far apart as possible… the further apart they are… the less stress they’re under… really important on those thin gates
3.2mm (1/8) rod seems quite thick for welding thinner metals, any reason you didnt go down to the yankistani equivalent of a 2.6mm rod?
STILL LOVE YOUR SHOWS AUSTIN JUST MISS SEEING MCKAYLA WITH YOU I HOPE SHE IS DOING OK!!!
for thin metal use 6013. But 6013 is crap of a electrode to weld with. But really it depends on brand and type of 6013. But might save your ass at 1.5-2mm (1/16) thickness. But then again I prefer to take my 300a inverter mig and gas cilinder (18/82mix) with me.
Ever run into thin material cargo trailer. I'm trying to weld a new tongue on it and I'm blowing thru
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do you ever go back on it and put another pass on it
Always put the heat into the thicker metal, simple as that
Bro, I had to weld on that exact same pre made gate, I blew so many holes. It was worse than Swiss cheese
Gotta keep the heat on the meat!
I gotta find some metal to practice with...
@4:08, why did u strike in the middle?
More or less to warm up my welding rod
you need to show these beginners how to weld over head
Can you get same results with buzz boxes? Because I have mostly welded with these.
Hey bud, Much of this depends on rod size, type, and required amperage. I would say that you "will" be able to weld the same thicknesses of steel as shown in Austin's video, but as far as I remember a buzz box typically runs alternating current, whereas Austin's Lincoln machine is pushing DC. Now those 60 series rods, 6010, 6011, 6013, etc. usually will run with AC, but how it deposits the metal is a smidge different. Also, I am not sure how high your amperage can be pushed or what your duty cycle is on a buzz box either, so that will have to be decided by you. Also, what type of power source are you plugging into? Just little questions for you to think about. In the end, just weld it and see how it comes out. 🤙
If by buzz box you mean a small cheap 110 mig machine, then yes. Cheat to the heavy gauge metal and then let the toe of the bead bleed over into the thin stuff real fast. Use solid core with C25 so you can use a little lower amperage.
I use a Lincoln 240 amp AC buzz box for everything. I even used it to weld up 1.5 mm 309 stainless exhaust pipe on my truck using a special 308L stainless rod at 60 amps. Using the correct rods and amps is key as long as using the correct technique just like A Ross has demonstrated here. 6011ac is your all around welding rod, works like the 6010dc rod, 7018ac is great for anything structural or anything that sees a lot of vibration, but make sure to keep your rods away from moisture since they are low hydrogen and also 7018 needs to be ran straight, letting your puddle backfill with correct speed, do not use any whipping motion or back and forth.
I started welding in the 70s on a little 220v Airco buzz box. Used that for many years and built a lot of stuff including pickup rear hitches. I ran mostly 6011 and some 7018 AC rods. I never ran the little 110v welders so I can’t speak for them, but the 220v AC machines will weld pretty good. They are actually good to start out with because when you move up to a better DC machine it will be easier. Lol
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Gate must has pass code or it must weigh ton. Helll it take you a week to make few welds.
I thought if its slag you drag🤔
When you going back to the line
Quick direct question, Austin - flux core mig is pretty much "endless rod" welding - I've welded since I was a kid - every flavour - I now can't much justify picking up the stick welder as the flux-core machine (I have one welder set up just to run 1mm flux core - 16 amp machine, plug it in, weld) - is just so much easier/better. No gas - like stick. Cheap welding plant - like stick. No great surface prep - like stick. Very un-fussy process - like stick. Hugely strong/tough welds - like stick. Flux core wire is cheap as chips - like stick - pretty much... (flux core is cheaper... do the math... it's cheaper) I bought rods today for a job - by the foot of weld, flux wire is cheaper...they want rods... go figure..
No stopping, reaching for a fresh rod - unlike stick. You've a whole roll of "rods" lined right up - with close to no "downside" - none that I see day to day... Why you no use flux core?? First time I used flux core, it just made so much sense - no more worrying about wind/weather, no need for pita gas, no need for huge prep - point, squeeze, weld.
Tensil strength is less in flux core
@@klizzyykicks1712 Dunno if it is in real-world stuff. Never had a flux-C weld break on me yet. Even the tacks are a PITA to get loose when you want to change stuff - a sure fire guide to how weak/strong it is. Going by the shade I have to run my mask at for FC - it burns crazy bright/hot - I'm guessing the penetration/strength is "Just Dandy" tbh,.
@@jamesward5721 I currently weld on army tanks for the government and before them I welded submarines for the navy.. flux core isn’t approved on the hull because of its tensil strength..in some applications it’s great but for something life and death it’s not it
@@klizzyykicks1712 I meant gates & fences & workbenches. :-) The light thin stuff Austin has to weld now & then. No one process does all - not by a mile.
any outdoor code work will be stick. indoors dual shield may be ok.
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Two minutes of fluff until the info starts.
what is it with americans using that back and forth with the stick americans use so much?
I think you've seen this technique mostly with quick cooling rods like 6011, 6010. He's letting the welding pool cool, so as not to burn through.
the rythm can lead to more uniform travel speed for some
I thought this was a useful tip