Dip Belt vs Weight Vest | Which Is Better For Weighted Calisthenics?
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This video is a comparison of a dip belt vs weight vest for the purpose of weighted calisthenics exercises. Adding additional weight to calisthenics is extremely helpful for introducing measurable progressive overload, so it's something I definitely recommend doing. I've had a dip belt, also known as weighted belt, for the last 10 years or more (since I was an avid weight lifter). Then, after I abandoned the gym and found calisthenics, I saw a lot of people promoting a weighted vest for adding weight so I bought one of those too.
To keep the video short and sweet I decided to share my top 3 pros and cons of both of these pieces of weighted calisthenics equipment so you can make the right decision for your investment. Hopefully you find the video helpful.
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What about a backpack with a bag of cat litter in it? That's what I've been using since my gym closed.
I've tried it but it puts a lot of stress on your back
Mass is mass. Doesnt matter what material it is
@@michaelcolbourn6719 my only concern with that is if the back pack can support that much weight as well as i can agree i could imagine it being annoying pull on the shoulders
@@ibdubluofficial9945 yeah of course a back pack isnt designed to take all that weight. So you dont wanna use too much, or any object that damage the bag. But as long as its comfortable, should be ok
If you get a long belt and put it through the strap on top of the bag. It can become like a weight belt
Weight vests also cut into your upper traps and require a wash every now and then.
Dip belt chains can sometimes “bite” into the fabric of your t-shirts and make little holes. It can also pinch your skin when you are not careful.
Get through pain for gains
Right now I use a weighted blanket and backpack or weighted blanket and a leather belt to strap it to me. A weighted blanket is 15 lbs. I think I will get a second weighted blanket and then strap it as well to me for 30 lbs. The advantage of a weighted blanket is the weight is distributed all over the place even more so than a vest and you can sleep with it.
Hii ryan...just found your channel. ...your content is amazing and so accurate...what makes it special is the fact that its for beginners....keep doing this no matter what.....thanks
Well made video! Thanks for the help!
This is indeed helpful. Thank you for this.
Very nice work bro 💪🙏
I enjoy your videos. You speak slowly and very understandably - great - thank you. Your videos are short and insightful. I have already taken a lot out of your videos for me and they have shown me many new progressions that I currently use and that have brought me further.
Could you make a video specifically about the bridge? I can't get my shoulders up! I somehow miss an intermediate step. It is not because of my strength itself - strength is not the problem - maybe my mobility? Greetings from Berlin - Germany.
Nice video!
Buen video hermano gracias por la informacion
If you're not sure what to go with, get the vest. It's versatile and can be used for a number of exercises. As you work your way up in weight, if you need to add more, you can purchase an inexpensive dip belt and use both.
Yeaa, totally with you. Then it's just to choose how much weight and price you want to pay for.
The vest breaks me out in my shoulders lol
I got that stupid skin so belt for me
@@harambey i got stupid skin too. how's the belt been?
If you have any free weight plates, you can strap it inside the weight vest for added weight.
I had a 20 lb vest and would put a 25 lb. plate inside the vest when the lighter weight got too easy for 45 lbs total.
Thanks!
I got the Kensui pro vest that holds barbell plates. Super comfortable and versatile.
on the long run having a dip belt and some plates is better since you can always add more weight and you can just use a back pack for push ups and hold the weight on your hands for squats weight vest is nice but it's limited and can get quite hot and sweaty if you're training in summer
Just the video I was searching for . Was doing pull-ups with my bagpack with couple of books till the straps tore away. Have bought a belt and must say it's very difficult to balance the weight since it's all infront
I like your pros and cons. I also owned both of them, but the vest (which was pretty expensive) literally fell into pieces after like 1.5 years :/
Yes... he is Johnny Sins brother.
A diver’s weight belt is a good alternative to both and you get the benefits of both😉 also excellent for HSPU
Wait I just searched what a divers weight belt and had the thought that there isn't much weight you can put on it because it's just a small band that wraps around the waist right? Correct me if I'm wrong
@@raymondqiu8202 currently I have 14kg of lead weight on mine just because that’s how I bought it but I have enough room to attach that much again easily... any more then yes I use a dip belt for singles and triples. The benefit of the weight belt is you put it on in the beginning and away you go without the concern in the HSPU that any weight is going to drop out and you can move unrestricted in all movements.
Nice video. One thing I'd add though is why not switch to pistol squats with the weight belt. Isn't the whole point of calisthenics to get make the movements harder. So instead of adding weight, switching to Archer pushups or one arm. Same with pullups. Wouldn't you want to master the progression before considering adding weight?
I got that weight vest, is pretty good and worth it.
Same. I like mine. But I prefer the dip belt for pullups because I don't like the vest pulling on my shoulders.... Maybe I'll give it another try
Dumbbell held with the feet
can be dropped any time for a drop set , greater TUT
Would appreciate if you show the mentioned weights converted to kg on the video, but nice video though
For me it depends what I am using it for. I like using both of them and have no preference
Nice
I want a weight vest, but since there is a lockdown and i want to try it on at a store first since i dont want to misbuy expensive stuff, i have used a long chain, ductaped bubblewrap around it, took my dads dumbells amd got myself a budget belt
Awesome video, I've been wanting a weight vest.i saw one i wanted from V force or Vmax and it was a 150lbs but the price was around $400 maybe a little higher
BattleFox 84 that's a lot of money for a vest but might be worth it if it's high quality material. 150 lbs is a lot!
@@MinusTheGym i remember reading it was military grade material and something else. And it came in different shoulder variations for calisthenics or for long hikes
@@battlefox8460 did you get it?
For Squat we can use one leg squat to overcome upper limit (now) right?
I've been using the Dark Iron Fitness belt for about 3 years and it's way better that those chain belts, of course is expensive but is better built. I'm thinking on buying the MIR vest, would it be a good option?
Yeah, I personally think weight vests are better than belts because you can also run/walk with them. They’re also more comfortable to use on hanging exercises. I’ve never heard of the Dark Iron Fitness belt... I’ll have to check it out.
I'm already sold by the flexibility and price of the belt over the vest. I'll get a back pack and put some weights in that if I want to simulate a weight vest.
Can you make video on how to target upper traps?
Amogh pratap singh sure, I'll add that to the list. Spoiler: with body weight it's all about inverted hangs on bars and rings. And once you can hold inverted hangs, start pulling up in that position.
You should show some oblique training
I have scoliosis and I'm very careful when it comes to my back/spine, so I won't even consider getting a weighted vest, since it puts more weight on your spine.
Dip belts can also fuck up your spine. Fucked up my back today with only 65 lbs on the belt.
@@THEDRAWINGSTUDIO1 I'm sorry that happened to you. How are you feeling? I think it's also important to add small increments of weight with both the vest and the belt. I have back problems myself and I'm scared of blowing it out further.
They both put pressure on spine but weight vest is top down so distributes to most of the spine discs while the belt is completely torching the lower back and the forward leaning weight is dragging the lower back into a very arched position that isnt good for the back either. Id say weight vest is better
@@THEDRAWINGSTUDIO1 what workout were you exactly doing with that much weight? For me I've done 70lbs of weight with no issue with dips.
Why not mix both to take advantage of both comfort and upper limit? :)
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Agreed lol. They both have their purpose, just like with dumbbells and barbells.
1:47 You can change that through elevating yourself higher for push ups. Such as using pylo boxes or high stools, a dip bar on a rack, or even on gymnastic rings
Hi Ryan. How do you keep your outdoor bar from rusting? I built an outdoor pull station and noticed the galvanized pipe yellowing in less than a week.
John Z I don't treat it in any special way. I used zinc-plated galvanized steel pipe so it's corrosion resistant. I'm sure it'll eventually show some age but for now it's held up for 3 years. And for the lumber I just used 4×4 pressure treated posts and slapped a coat of walnut finish on them.
@@MinusTheGym I bought the galvanized steel pipe at HD and within a week after installing outside it started to begin corroding.
One very cheap alternative to a dip belt I've used is a thick nylon string around the waist. It has a high weight limit and you can tie it to dumbbells, plates, whatever and you can adjust it to whatever length you'd like. One day I'll have to get a vest and/or legit belt though!
the best option in my opinion are weigheted vest that you can fill up with sand 15 pounds -20 dollars
Gotta question, what about leg weights?
Are they the best solution for getting the most outta lunges, squats, etc. Also, are there any cons e.g. practicality, and/or versatility?
When you say leg weights, do you mean ankle weights? Those are best for kick backs, side leg raises and other exercises to target glutes and hip abductors. For the standard leg exercise (squats, lunges and their many variations) I’ve found a weight vest works great if you don’t have dumbbells. You still have to go sorta high rep, but the extra resistance makes for a grueling workout and helps build mass. Hope that helps!
More mobility/ flexibility exercise or routine !!!
i actually use a dog leash to hold my weight because i dont have either of these, it works great and can hold a lot of weight! easy cheap tip
That's cool. Dipping belts are pretty cheap anyway, only like £20
@@michaelcolbourn6719 I have one for 5.99 £ and its ok.
@hiphophead555 hahahahaha perfect comment
for home workout I use Weight Vest
As a beginner in calisthenics i just got a 9kg weight vest i am a skinny guy round about 70kg is this suitable i mean i am not concerned about the weight it is more can i get injured as i see recommendations is gradually add weight rather than just jumping into something like this. Appreciate the content
Oh the vest is cheap as well but for what i want it for it seems like a good deal as a beginner.
That weight vest is horrible if your are 5’6” like me lol it vent all the way down to my waist making it uncomfortable when doing squats. Had to end up selling it and getting something that was more of a crop top style.
I just bought this. It came with a cheaper chain and 2 quick releases. Did you change the chain? I'm sure the chain might have been better if you bought it a while ago.
Yeah, I got mine like 8+ years ago. I didn’t change the chain but very well could be a different one that it came with. Is it still rated for a lot of weight? That’s what matters most (if you ask me) so that you can safely go heavy with it.
@@MinusTheGym it says 200 pounds, even more. I doubt I'll be doing that much. You never know. Instead of the chain you have, it has 2 thinner chains, like in this video on the site, with quick releases. I'm a beginner. I out 5 pounds on it. I like it so far. The double chain I also found to be useful when lifting/clipping the weight itself higher to the crotch to be better for floor/trail bar dips. Though, it sits just under your crotch st that point. I'm using a plate weight.
I use my everyday leather belt and put it through the top strap of my backpack with a big bag of rocks for pull-ups.
I once was wearing a dip belt and must of not attached the clip properly. With 40kg dangling, the carabiner gate ripped off the belt and latched onto my foreskin through my shorts. Got away unharmed but jesus, that could of gone so wrong.
The problem is when doing explosive pull ups or dips ..both fly when going down...slow power moves yes they work
I've used the weight vest during the lockdown and weight belt in the gym. The weight belt is BY FAR the best and better than the weight vest in the long run at least for the upper body.
what about for weighted push ups brotha?
@@unknownsource4359 Why not just use a backpack filled with a weighted blanket or water then and also use harder variations like one arm push ups?
Thanks for another great video!
I am nearly to the point of unassisted dips, so I have been looking into weighted dip options. While this still requires supplying your own weight, I followed Coop's advice and made my own vest - czcams.com/video/aVD3XZYLQ4U/video.html. Right now I use it for cardio and have two 5 lb plates inside of it. That said, I used bags of sand for a weighted ruck march I did last year (I had 35lbs of sand in it), so there are cheaper interim options, too.
Darin Overturf nice! I never even thought of making a DIY vest before...
If you use a loading pin with the belt it won't rub anything bro
Idea: switch to more difficult leg exercise variations that naturally require less weight. Split squats/Pistol squats/Lunges. If you get one adjustable dumbbell up to 100 lbs and have a 65 lbs weight vest, you need no gym. Weight vest + 100 lbs dumbbell for reps on Goblet Squats and you're golden. Can get it all for probably $250. That $20/mo gym membership will go on forever, and the $250 you'll make back in a year.
The deep push ups can be done on three chair (or some other raised surfaces) to get that maximum range of motion for the exercise. I prefer the belt to a plate on the back or a vest, as it feels like the movement is more natural and unencumbered.
you're attaching your weights to the weight belt incorrectly which is why you are having the imbalance problem. Assuming the chain is fixed on the left hip ring: run the chain from the left hip ring through the weight - bring the chain up from the weight through the belt ring on the right hip - then attach the carabiner to the left hip ring. Doing it this way self-centers the weight.
Are backpacks viable for this or no?
Yeah, when I stared I used a backpack with books, stones, etc. in it. It tends to sway a bit though. That’s why I eventually got the vest.
@@MinusTheGym thanks! do you think it can be used for dips?
If you have any lower back issues or spinal issues - go with the dip belt. Weighted vests are going to be better in every other regard but they cause compression on the spine and shouldn't be worn longer than your sets. The vests are gonna distribute weight a lot better and be a lot more functional in every other area until you max out the vest.
I ha e 2 buldfing disk in lower back. I was thinkimg of getting a vest to do weigjted dips and weighted push ups but that's it. I have a rhino belt squat and was gonna buy some stuff to do weigjted dips with it but I think the vest will be good with lighter weight
Oh yea and once I do a set I will take it off right away and put it back on again on next set?
@@futbol1972 I leave mine on between sets but... as soon as i'm finished with the dips or the pull ups - I take it off for the rest of the workout.
Great overview, my vegan buddy :)
Well, I did not know that Johnny Sins had become a calistenics master
do both at the same time
Ryan: It has a tendency to rub on some parts that you don’t necessarily want rubbing on.
Dip belt user be like: Imma get free gains anyways 💁🏻♂️.
The funny thing is : if you learn how to wear the dip belt, the chain goes on both sides of the area where you don't want it rubbing on.
Obviously optimum is both
Bullshit, I just grab a back pack, fill it with a bunch of my sister's plushies and we're ready 2 go
I think you've locked your dip belt wrong. Just to make sure: Go from the chain source ring through the opposite ring then through the weight plate (or whatever you are using) and then you lock back on the source ring. For paralletes, fix dip belt closer to the upper chest, and lock it so that weight plate is close to the body. Boom! Uneven weight distribution problem solved. 💪
The weight vest isn’t necessarily more versatile. It’s just more convenient. For example, you can do weighted pushups with a dip belt by laying on plyo boxes. The only thing a dip belt can’t work with is squats, but I would use a sandbag for that.
Ryan how prisoners are so muscular despite poor nutrition?
They dont have poor nutrition, also steroids are available in prison just like any other drugs
Dipbelts are great for dips and pull ups. Not so great for anything that requires becoming horizontal.
Not really, Squats are a Vertical movement.
You can do deep push ups with dip belt if u use an elevated surface ;) gotta get creative. Dip belt is far superior if you're in advanced calisthenics as it's uncomfortable af to wear a 100+ pound weighted vest and also really expensive.
I think I'm just going to squeeze my legs together to hold a dumbbell between them while doing pull ups. It'll create some serious strength and be a real challenge just holding the dumbbell that way and it'll add the extra weight I need to progress to one arm pull ups.
Man, is that your home?
1499rock yeah, I shot this one in the backyard and basement
@@MinusTheGym, beautiful home brother. Hey, can you make a video for those who want to gain weight?
This man said it’s hard to put a vest on 😂😂😂😂
The biggest disadvantage is the weight you must carry to the gym. With a belt, you use the weights already at the gym. Maybe for training at home a vest would be ok.
I guess but calisthenics is meant to avoid gyms so it's kind of irrelevant since you can juat weight train with the machines there and max out on every muscle
I'd also add that a disadvantage for belts is that when you put on weights over 20 pounds it's not healthy for your spine. The position the belt sits and the forces pulling on your spine are just not good
Pro Weight Vest here. Owning a Capital Sports 50 pound vest
Cheap alternative to weight west:
Backpack: garbage bags + sand
Dip belt is only $20 but the weights you use to attach it to are $100+ lol
Wtf are you Johnny sins !?
Another con of dip belts is the it can place so much pressure on the low back if you use it for high weights. Really fucked up my back today with just 65 lbs on the belt.
scuba weight belts are much more comfortable than dip belts.
Yeah ok but weight vests are cool looking so yeah.
Agreed 😊
Weighed calisthenics... always thought that if it's weighted it's by default, not a calisthenics.
If goku trains weighted calisthenics, I train with weight calisthenics
@@Kerwell weighted calisthenics is same as being nude, but with clothes on.
@@gurr1264 good ol’ abridged
Johnny sins?
Who else watching at 3:00 am?