Total War: Rome II Elite Duel: Royal Spartans vs Praetorian Guard

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  • Total War: Rome II Elite Duel: Royal Spartans vs Praetorian Guard
    Faction: Sparta vs Rome
    Battle Difficulty: normal
    *Royal Spartans: Hoplite Wall used
    *Praetorian Guard: Use the Whip used
    Hoplite Wall:
    The unit moves into close wall formation.
    Bracing, melee defence, shield strength ⬆
    Acceleration, speed ⬇
    Use the Whip:
    Improved attack and fatigue resistance for a short time.
    Melee attack, weapon damage, fatigue resistance ⬆
    Exertion: fatigue ⬇
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    #TotalWar1vs1 #TotalWar #Rome2
    My Discord channel: / discord
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Komentáře • 366

  • @isexuallyidentifyasukraini5407

    "Our general has fallen"
    Spartans: good, he will dine in hell
    Morale+50

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +43

      😈😈

    • @Namoamitabha_
      @Namoamitabha_ Před 2 lety +66

      Royal Spartan can now concentrate the fight worries of protecting the general

    • @victorkumps6846
      @victorkumps6846 Před 2 lety +10

      In reality Spartans lost morale at their leaders death. Look at their wars against the thebans

    • @petrosb52
      @petrosb52 Před 2 lety +27

      @@victorkumps6846 in reality spartans fight over dead Leonidas, claiming back his body for over 6 times. In reality, as well, we know only 2 or 3 major spartans defeats (in land battles) and they rule over Greece for over 3 centuries. Keep in mind that spartans had defeated thebans many many times

    • @victorkumps6846
      @victorkumps6846 Před 2 lety +13

      @@petrosb52 I know they were the best Greece had to offer. But they never recovered from their defeats at Leuctra and Mantinea against Epaminondas. That prepared the ground for Macedonia to take over Greece a few years later. And at Leuctra for sure we know that the Spartan king and his elite ´ s death in battle caused the reste of the spartan troops ( elite and otherwise) to leave the battleground as a direct consequence. That’s all I was saying, I don’t dispute that they had the best hoplites for centuries

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte Před rokem +203

    Battle starts.
    Spartans: slowly advance.
    Praetorians: assassinate their general.
    Praetorians: sorry, force of habit.

  • @justrobin8155
    @justrobin8155 Před 2 lety +359

    This is one of the more interesting fights I've seen! Looking at their stats at the beginning, I genuinely didn't know who would win. Definitely proof that both of these units are crazy tough though

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +27

      Yeah, they were fighting to the last man...😈

    • @xahmadx6442
      @xahmadx6442 Před rokem +2

      i watched a video where the pretorens got charged from the back yet they didn't even break which is very bad honestly

  • @Pallyrulez
    @Pallyrulez Před 2 lety +175

    When the Spartan Strategos died, the men fight even harder to ensure the recovery of their general's body!

    • @jarlnils435
      @jarlnils435 Před 2 lety +29

      Only a spartan who dies in battle gets a grave stone. They cheered for their strategos, to be so lucky.

  • @neiretzlik4337
    @neiretzlik4337 Před 2 lety +196

    "Why did I leave my nice home" Hit me hard, poor guy

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +13

      😈

    • @sitrakamatthieu
      @sitrakamatthieu Před 2 lety +3

      wait when was it ????

    • @neiretzlik4337
      @neiretzlik4337 Před 2 lety +15

      @@sitrakamatthieu When camera zooms to Royal Spartans just before the Roman charge, listen closely to soldiers, one of them screams the line

    • @TheSm1thers
      @TheSm1thers Před rokem +7

      @@neiretzlik4337 Surprised one of his spartan colleagues didn't punch him. He's meant to be one of the spartan royal guard.

    • @kseshshtern9968
      @kseshshtern9968 Před rokem +1

      @@sitrakamatthieu 0:50

  • @rickysmyth
    @rickysmyth Před 2 lety +93

    The leadership stats in this game are crazy. Any other game and the losers would rout a lot sooner once they know they are losing the match

  • @ashina2146
    @ashina2146 Před 2 lety +295

    The Hoplite Wall helps a lot in this fight, not because of the Shield Defense Increase but the hidden +5 Bonus vs Infantry
    Bonuses increase Melee attack and Weapon Damage and in the case of Weapon damage it's considered as AP, so the Royal Spartan 22 Base and 8 AP become 22 Base and 13 AP, making the Minimal damage they can do is 13 Damage when the Praetorian Armor Roll is 22+ with the Roll being 0 to 50(even though in the Stat box it's 90, it's actually 50 Body Armor and 40 shield Armor).
    While the Praetorian only have 34 Base and 5 AP, which means the minimum damage they can do is 5 Damage when the Royal Spartan Armor Roll is 34+ with the roll being 0 to 60(Same with how the Stat Box isn't giving the bigger Picture, Royal Spartans have 60 Body Armor and 45 Shield Armor).

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +15

      👍👍👍

    • @nonobutinyellow8611
      @nonobutinyellow8611 Před 2 lety +110

      I like your funny words magic man

    • @Hey-Patchy
      @Hey-Patchy Před 2 lety +11

      base damage from melee attacks rolls against the combined armour value of shields and body armour, not just the body (base) armour, yes it's unrealistic, but that's how Rome 2 mechanics work. so the 34 base damage of the elite gladius that the Praetorians deal is rolled against the 105 armour of the Royal Spartans. same goes for missiles, once a missile passes the shield, its base damage still rolls against the combined armour value of both shield's and body armour. impact damage from incoming cavalry is also considered as base damage and it can be reduced by the armour of a unit.

    • @tasovac975
      @tasovac975 Před 2 lety +12

      After the anti spaghetti update, the 5 bonus was removed, most likely because a smaller contact point favours hoplites even more. The more the units get fatigued and the more their attack value drops, and the more their bonus comes into play.

    • @crazycocainemercenary7498
      @crazycocainemercenary7498 Před 2 lety

      You must be a really boring person mister ashina

  • @JC-uz3ey
    @JC-uz3ey Před 2 lety +161

    should turn off formation attack when attacking. it limits the number of troops getting into combat
    If you are defensive then turn it on.

    • @Falcon0BR
      @Falcon0BR Před 2 lety +12

      No really, if you are on the defensive, in a 1x1, also turn it off! Leave it on if you need to buy time for your archers or hammer and anvil tactics, on 1x1 turn it off.

    • @legiox4750
      @legiox4750 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Falcon0BR Not on Multiplayer, you dont have that time, and without phalanx royal dont win it.

    • @Falcon0BR
      @Falcon0BR Před 2 lety +9

      @@legiox4750 there are several tests here on CZcams, the same unit loses on a mirror match with formation attack, the only reason to formation attack is to make the unit die slower, but it loses too much attack for it, so, always turn it off on balanced matches.

    • @legiox4750
      @legiox4750 Před 2 lety

      @@Falcon0BR I did here and I win.

    • @Falcon0BR
      @Falcon0BR Před 2 lety

      @@legiox4750 ok dude, so, record amd upload, because there are several vídeos telling it is worst here on CZcams

  • @sevchikshwed7433
    @sevchikshwed7433 Před 2 lety +51

    It’s all about the formation, if you stretch and turn off formation fighting - the praetorians win easily

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +4

      👍

    • @scorpiontdalpha9799
      @scorpiontdalpha9799 Před 2 lety +14

      Well, if he charge the Royal Spartan in and after10 secs, put them in HW and click another attack order, Praetorian may not like that

    • @amp8295
      @amp8295 Před 2 lety

      @@scorpiontdalpha9799 Don't forget to turn off Formation attack, it forces the unit to reform into a tight block, causing men to get caught out.

    • @alejandrop.s.3942
      @alejandrop.s.3942 Před 2 lety

      @ScorpionTD Alpha , can you get shock value simply by clicking attack after deactivating HW?

    • @scorpiontdalpha9799
      @scorpiontdalpha9799 Před 2 lety

      @@amp8295 what is shock value?

  • @indigodegelder
    @indigodegelder Před 2 lety +17

    Kind of crazy to see how much of a bonus the hoplite wall gives, the guards had so much better stats for 1v1 fight that you would say they win almost always. But I guess I should have know this because I always spam hoplite in my campaigns XD.

  • @matthewyang4349
    @matthewyang4349 Před 2 lety +7

    One person die during the charge while in phalanx formation.
    It was almost a battle to the death at the end of the video.

  • @sirflik0114
    @sirflik0114 Před 2 lety +5

    Glad to see more total war duels dude

  • @onehitwonder420
    @onehitwonder420 Před 2 lety +51

    I actually enjoyed rome 2, despite what everyone says about it.

    • @Falcon0BR
      @Falcon0BR Před 2 lety +4

      Pre-ordered it, game didn't run on 1.0 and after two weeks I could play it, but first versions upgrading your farms was worst them leaving it lvl 1! Game needed several pass after making sense, and now, it doesn't make sense to me, or it is no civil war, or it is civil war everytime!

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +13

      Me too! My favorite Total War game.

    • @Gdsryrox
      @Gdsryrox Před 2 lety +2

      I'm assuming you didn't buy it day 1 when there were a lot of problems with it, like imagine field battle with a cap zone that you can move
      it's not a bad game but needed a lot of patches to become better and with a few mods it one fo the best historical TW out there

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +3

      @@Gdsryrox Agree with you. I didn't buy the game when it was released but I usually heard that there were many bugs, glitches and problems at the first stage of the game.

    • @jarlnils435
      @jarlnils435 Před 2 lety +3

      I had it a half year later, had still a lot of bugs and glitches. But I still love it. And now I play only with Divide et Impera. Because I love the mod.

  • @Marhaenis_enjoyer
    @Marhaenis_enjoyer Před 2 lety +21

    Can i request? If yes, this is my request:
    Galatian royal guard vs hellenic royal guard

  • @Gwagia
    @Gwagia Před 2 lety +2

    Sweet, fond memories of my Spartan Campaign. Now off topic, how about Shimazu Heavy Gunners vs. Date Bulletproof Samurai.

  • @hanglei9865
    @hanglei9865 Před 2 lety +13

    very interesting duel that blows my mind, best of the best fighting each other, but i genuinely thought that sword always beats spears, maybe on higher difficulties it's a bit different

    • @jarlnils435
      @jarlnils435 Před 2 lety +12

      No, it is because of the extreme defense and armor of the royal spartans. Defense does not get reduced when the unit becomes tired. So they can hold against the roman attacks, while the roman attacks get weaker.

    • @zexfafa2794
      @zexfafa2794 Před 2 lety +6

      Sword beat Spears. But nothing beats spartana

    • @SolusLupi
      @SolusLupi Před 2 lety

      @@zexfafa2794 ayup, there is a difference in training from birth versus training since yer old enough join the legion.

    • @Darqshadow
      @Darqshadow Před 2 lety +1

      @@SolusLupi eh the Spartans during the Roman Period werent that powerful.
      However: Rome always had trouble fighting the Phalanx since the spear has more reach than the gladius. In this case the unit of Praetorians would have kept the heavier javelin as a fighting spear to try and negate the disadvantage

    • @asadmuhammad4806
      @asadmuhammad4806 Před 2 lety

      @@jarlnils435 it was their HW that help them win, because it gives 5 bonus vs infantry.

  • @dragonmasterofficial6021
    @dragonmasterofficial6021 Před 2 lety +1

    at the center panel u can see ur faction the second tab on the right canmake huge difference cuz it makes the unit to stay in formation !!!

  • @DeltaLightTSFH
    @DeltaLightTSFH Před 2 lety +14

    this really fight really depends on the situation
    for example, spartans wothout the shieldwall and praetorians with the whip at the right moment can make the romans win
    oathsworn for example are another unit that can win a fight by using the abilities at the right moment. Also it depends by the usage of the javelins that oathsworns and the romans have
    another example: if you leave your unit at the mercy of a charge of Tracian Nobles, no matter how strong the unit is, it will be destroyed without you being able to do anything
    if I have to say a unit that is stronger than the others ... I think it depends on the versatility ... in 1 vs 1 the strongest I think are the Tracian Nobles, but that is not the way to see what it is the best
    Probably overall for all the things they can do and all the situations they can solve, I think the strongest are either the Oathsworn or the Praetorian Guards. Mostly because they have javelins that are really useful in many situations
    The most OP unit of the game taking into account the price (cost-effective) are certainly the Evocati Cohort. Try them, they are OP

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +4

      Thanks for the useful information. I'll try.

    • @DeltaLightTSFH
      @DeltaLightTSFH Před 2 lety +3

      @@TotalWar1vs1 :)

    • @alejandrop.s.3942
      @alejandrop.s.3942 Před 2 lety +4

      I also like Agema Spears. Really cheap for an elite unit, plus they've Expert Charge Defense and Square Formation. But an awesome 80 range for their javelins, only Iberian Swords and Thureos Spears have a similar range amongst infantry units. Besides, you can directly aim to certain units whereas other infantries fire at will only or to the unit they're charging.
      But yeah, Evocati is probably the best cost effective unit in the game.
      Concerning the best unit, Sword Masters are also a powerhouse, and Pretorians are in my opinion slightly worse than that unit and Oathsworns.

    • @DeltaLightTSFH
      @DeltaLightTSFH Před 2 lety +1

      @@alejandrop.s.3942 ur right. the problem is that in rome 2, the melee attack is the most important stat, and spear unit mostly have it low... this is why eastren spearmens are the worst unit :(

    • @alejandrop.s.3942
      @alejandrop.s.3942 Před 2 lety +2

      @@DeltaLightTSFH Yes, but you don't win battles by infantry alone. I mean, playing as Hellenics you have a nice cavalry (Successors and Epirus) and missile roster, which can destroy their counterparts and attack your enemy engaged with your infantry. I think hoplites are a nice, useful unit which can hold its ground when they're properly used and supported, even though the game is clearly sword bias.

  • @alejandrop.s.3942
    @alejandrop.s.3942 Před 2 lety +5

    Even though elite hoplites have expert charge defense, I think it normally pays off to make them charge, given their nice shock bonus.

    • @alejandrop.s.3942
      @alejandrop.s.3942 Před 2 lety +5

      Besides, aside from phalanx pikemen, every unit performs better with formation attack off.

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +4

      I'll upload a video comparing Formation attack ON vs OFF soon.

  • @AfaqueAhmed_
    @AfaqueAhmed_ Před 2 lety +2

    Spartans :- Our general has fallen .
    Gotta retrieve his body .

  • @thebigd4532
    @thebigd4532 Před 2 lety +19

    I feel like the fight would have gone differently if you had turned the formation attack options off for both units

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah, I'll try it again.

    • @scorpiontdalpha9799
      @scorpiontdalpha9799 Před rokem

      Nah, they remove out of formation hoplites wall a while ago.
      Now HWall will just make Roman unit surround and debuff Royal Spartans

  • @ytubesocialtv
    @ytubesocialtv Před 2 lety

    Ngl that thumbnail looks so cool!

  • @Ryan-us4jf
    @Ryan-us4jf Před rokem

    I think this would’ve been different if use the whip hadn’t been applied to Roman unit at all. It caused and exhausted status LONG before they would’ve been there. So an exhausted praetorian was fighting “active” royal spartans for a while there. If you noticed, praetorians held a solid 10-15 model lead until then.

  • @-V-_-V-
    @-V-_-V- Před 2 lety +18

    Something that's been missed here is in Total War whichever unit is spread out wider has a huge advantage. Spartans would have won easily if they had been spread out to the same width as the Romans.

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +9

      Their Hoplite Wall made them get in tight formation.

    • @-V-_-V-
      @-V-_-V- Před 2 lety +2

      @@TotalWar1vs1 ahhh okay

    • @tadeaspekar9043
      @tadeaspekar9043 Před 2 lety

      No they wouldn’t. Their hoplite wall formation is what helped them most to win. So if you spread them, they would probably lose, definitely not won easily. Thats bulllshit

    • @jordancheesebourough
      @jordancheesebourough Před rokem

      @@TotalWar1vs1if u would took them out of formation attack they would have been more spread while still bein in the phalanx

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před rokem

      @@jordancheesebourough ok I'll try

  • @pride2184
    @pride2184 Před 2 lety +3

    Formation dif gave you the advantage forced them to fight stretched and causing them to have less combat units in the battle. Prae always mercs. Seiges always good to have a few in the back or to take the front assault cuz they can dif take out 2 to 3 full units vs them. Cost effectiveness. However no urbans sad.

  • @jonathanjohnson7743
    @jonathanjohnson7743 Před rokem

    Reminds me of a mp battle i had against rome with sparta and I won by mostly managing to outflank the roman infantry one by one until i had the advantage

  • @skierus_maximus
    @skierus_maximus Před 2 lety

    Do you also do duels in older TW? If so, could you check something in Medieval 2? Polish Nobles vs Kataphractoi

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, I've already made some videos about Med2. Your matchup is good, I'll do.

  • @MattZaharias
    @MattZaharias Před 2 lety +2

    What happens if you turn formation attack off, or turn phalanx off once the charge bonus for the Praetorian Guard has worn off?

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety

      I'll test formation ON vs formation OFF soon.

    • @amp8295
      @amp8295 Před 2 lety

      Just turn it on upon first contact, very likely to win that way.

  • @comex667
    @comex667 Před 2 lety

    this made me wana play total war rome 2 again

  • @dhsbbdbshhebebebdbc8977

    You should do another one but the praetorians don’t use the whip as it tires them out all the way to exhausted

  • @christianschrader5927
    @christianschrader5927 Před 2 lety +3

    Anybody notice the 4 Roman’s not fighting on the side?? 3:27 I think it would’ve changed the outcome without a doubt.

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, because the AI used Formation Attack.

  • @Krokmaniak
    @Krokmaniak Před 2 lety

    Maybe naked warriors vs longsword cohort as both are anti infantry units? (To use units from 2 different DLC you need to save army, change dlc and load army. You can even edit later so you need just 1 unit to save and transfer between dlc)

  • @jessiecollins97
    @jessiecollins97 Před 2 lety +5

    Right at the start I said the Praetorians would win. Moment I saw the Phalanx get clicked Spartans were definitely going to win.

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +1

      😈😈

    • @tadeaspekar9043
      @tadeaspekar9043 Před 2 lety +2

      Yes, the falanx made the spartans win and the stupid use of whip made Romans lose

  • @falmire.
    @falmire. Před 2 lety

    Lesgo!!

  • @randomthoughts9276
    @randomthoughts9276 Před 2 lety

    Maybe you can do another but this time you're the praetorians? It just looked like there was formation attack involved, and I think that they might have won with it off? I dunno, just my thoughts.

  • @yessir2514
    @yessir2514 Před rokem

    I'd like to see this fight on divide et impera.

  • @imstuff2499
    @imstuff2499 Před 2 lety +1

    Do Total War Attila next!!

  • @MrXScarFacexTV
    @MrXScarFacexTV Před 2 lety +1

    Wow I did not expect that to be so close

  • @shanesongco9588
    @shanesongco9588 Před 2 lety

    hmm is the hoplite wall more beneficial than the charge bonus for the royal spartan?
    haven't played TW rome 2, but had other TW games so im not sure with the effect and use of the wall here
    does it make the unit completely stationary or can you move, if not charge with the wall up?

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +1

      We can move slowly the unit in phalanx, but not a charge.

    • @shanesongco9588
      @shanesongco9588 Před 2 lety

      @@TotalWar1vs1 oh so it works as a spear wall rather than shield wall
      thanks for clearing that up

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety

      @@shanesongco9588 You're welcome.

    • @asadmuhammad4806
      @asadmuhammad4806 Před 2 lety

      Hoplite wall gives u 5 attack bonus vs infantry

    • @blakedemaria6642
      @blakedemaria6642 Před 2 lety +2

      Best way to use hoplites (especially those with high charge bonus like Spartans and Armored Desert Hoplites) is to charge them in a standard formation first. then once the charge bonus effect seems to end (can usually tell by a slowing in the killing) put the hoplites into Hoplite wall

  • @LaJejD
    @LaJejD Před 2 lety +1

    Why is there almost a quater of the roman units standing still on the right ? They could have flank them and win right ?

    • @alejandrop.s.3942
      @alejandrop.s.3942 Před 2 lety

      Stupid Formation Attack was on. That's why I play with a mod called Formation Attack off, since that way you don't have the upper hand against AI when you deactivate it.
      That mod cripples pikemen tho.

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety

      👍

  • @krauser13tallica
    @krauser13tallica Před 2 lety

    What is "bonus vs. large" stat on the Royal Spartans?

  • @Falcon0BR
    @Falcon0BR Před 2 lety +2

    Molossian wardogs vs Celtic Warhounds!

  • @elijahdeutsch6851
    @elijahdeutsch6851 Před rokem

    Can you do spartan vs Judean temple guard?

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před rokem

      Is Judean temple guard from a mod?

    • @elijahdeutsch6851
      @elijahdeutsch6851 Před rokem

      @@TotalWar1vs1 I believe so. You can probably find it on CZcams: total war time 2 judea

  • @jupiteroptimusmaximus4527

    If Torreon guard would have got off all the vale apella ammunition and the Royal Spartans weren't in phalanx position when they were fired upon I think the battle outcome would have been a lot different

  • @matthewdrexler188
    @matthewdrexler188 Před 2 lety

    How do u even set up a 1v1 with no general. Or is this alot of tedious off cam work to get these matches to happen.

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +1

      I used this mod: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=394640030&searchtext=general+custom+battle

    • @matthewdrexler188
      @matthewdrexler188 Před 2 lety

      @@TotalWar1vs1 omfg 😍 😭 😳 😫 thank you soo much!!!!!!! This will make testing matchups soo much easier now.
      SUBSCRIBE TO THIS CHANNEL!! YES!

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +1

      @@matthewdrexler188 Thank you bro!! The one who made this mod is my hero too 😁

  • @alejandrop.s.3942
    @alejandrop.s.3942 Před 2 lety +3

    Hoplites don't have enough credit, but they're an awesome asset. They can take pretty well the precursor damage due to their superior armour, can hold in combat against better swords, bonus against infantry when Hoplite Wall + bonus vs cavalry. If you use a cycle charge strategy in order to take advantage of their nice shock value (having a second line and withdrawing the first line when they start to get tired or suffer losses) you can make them a force to be reckoned with.
    Only the fact that they don't have precursors is crippling, but as long as you keep them away from units with high AP such as Thracians and Shotels they will perform well. Not brilliant, but a nice well - around unit which performs well in many situations.

    • @krzysztofkaruzo6899
      @krzysztofkaruzo6899 Před 2 lety

      honestly while playing as sparta in grand campaing I recruited only Spartan hoplites and preety much won every battle, especialy since they start with additional experience which is important in the series, in terms of battle all you have to do is set them in line shield wall On and marche through the map

  • @pkpkpkok
    @pkpkpkok Před 2 lety

    This is Spartan!

  • @alenivancic5589
    @alenivancic5589 Před 2 lety +1

    this is the power of the Spartans

  • @RandomGuy-rk9sn
    @RandomGuy-rk9sn Před 2 lety

    Rome II always forces you to choose a general for the army. How did you manage to get around this constraint?

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety

      I use this mod: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=394640030&searchtext=all+unit+general.

  • @hienhoangminh2567
    @hienhoangminh2567 Před 2 lety +3

    If you charge the Spartan and then put them on Hoplite wall they will wretch Pretorian must faster.

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +1

      I'll try it.
      P/s: Chào đồng hương VN nha :D

    • @scorpiontdalpha9799
      @scorpiontdalpha9799 Před 2 lety

      @@TotalWar1vs1 Ồ đồng hương

    • @hienhoangminh2567
      @hienhoangminh2567 Před 2 lety

      @@TotalWar1vs1 Không ngờ đấy đồng hương =)))

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety

      @@hienhoangminh2567 Hehe 😈. 2 bác nhớ ủng hộ đồng hương nha, thanks.

    • @scorpiontdalpha9799
      @scorpiontdalpha9799 Před 2 lety

      @@TotalWar1vs1 ông làm luôn campaign đi cho vui

  • @philanderson4150
    @philanderson4150 Před 2 lety

    That was fairly close, though if I were the praetorians I would've thrown more than 1 volley of javelins, also it might have been better for the spartans to counter charge the praetorians first then move into phalanx as the spartans have a higher charge bonus, but don't quote me on that

  • @LuigianoMariano
    @LuigianoMariano Před 2 lety +5

    "Praetorian Guard: Low Threat"

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +2

      😈😈 lol

    • @LuigianoMariano
      @LuigianoMariano Před 2 lety

      @@TotalWar1vs1 Praetorians should've been classified as Medium Threat, given how close they came to winning.

    • @alejandrop.s.3942
      @alejandrop.s.3942 Před 2 lety +2

      Gigachad Royal Spartans mindset.

    • @tadeaspekar9043
      @tadeaspekar9043 Před 2 lety

      @@LuigianoMariano they almost won and without abilities (which the Roman was used terribly) the would probably won. Sp its definitely a high threat. And stupid use of whip cost the Romans the victory

  • @seyntwyatt2578
    @seyntwyatt2578 Před 2 lety

    They did what they were told to do, what they trained to do, what they were born to do

  • @rouymalic4463
    @rouymalic4463 Před 2 lety

    can you make some attila content?

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +1

      Yup! But not in near future because I haven't played Attila much.

  • @mauriciorv228
    @mauriciorv228 Před rokem

    Extremely close

  • @ReviveHF
    @ReviveHF Před 2 lety

    This shows that why Pullo gets punished for breaking formation.

  • @roho10011
    @roho10011 Před rokem

    Even with you not charging with the Spartan (thus giving up their hefty charge bonus) they best the romans!

  • @FiBi-cp8tx
    @FiBi-cp8tx Před 2 lety +1

    Id love to see this fight in a chokepoint

  • @czaczaja
    @czaczaja Před rokem

    How the Spartans have more armour than Legionaries is beyond me..

  • @jaycecross4110
    @jaycecross4110 Před 2 lety

    The only peeve I have with this game is Greeks and Romans had British accents.

  • @bardiadorostkar8047
    @bardiadorostkar8047 Před 2 lety

    There is a problem and is that you should test this without the attack formation for the rome unit then you can see the true power of rome

  • @ribar4040
    @ribar4040 Před 2 lety

    Will you be doing this with DEI units?

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety

      What do you mean "DEI" ?

    • @ribar4040
      @ribar4040 Před 2 lety

      @@TotalWar1vs1 Hello, I mean units from the most popular (and in my opinion best) mod for Rome 2, Divide et Impera. It adds hundreds of new units and rebalances them all. If you see other youtubers that cover the mod you cwn easily see how popular it is based on their views... DEI review having like 800k views, and Andy's review of the latest update alone has over 200k...
      Namely I am certain more ppl play modded R2 over vanilla, and I dont think anyone does 1v1 videos of the mod, so you could be the first.
      Cheers

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +1

      @@ribar4040 Okay bro. I'll try.

    • @ribar4040
      @ribar4040 Před 2 lety

      @@TotalWar1vs1 czcams.com/video/vDhIG2UHFsw/video.html

  • @pieternoordenbos
    @pieternoordenbos Před 2 lety

    What about the roman soldiers on the side that weren't fighting any Greeks? I think that if the formation of the Romans had been less wide they would have won.

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +1

      I kept the default formation. And as you can see, Hoplite Wall made Royal Spartans be in thinner formation.

    • @pieternoordenbos
      @pieternoordenbos Před 2 lety

      @@TotalWar1vs1 So maybe it would be interesting to let the romans attack whilethey are in an attacking testudo? Then they both have a feature that is related to the formation. It could give the experiment a new dimension.

    • @alejandrop.s.3942
      @alejandrop.s.3942 Před 2 lety

      @TOTAL WAR 1vs1 , you should carry out these tests with a human player, that way you could test properly all the posibilities (Formation Attack on or off, formations, general abilities...).

  • @chesterzimmerman7752
    @chesterzimmerman7752 Před 2 lety

    THIS IS SPARTA

  • @RealJus
    @RealJus Před rokem

    Yea 1 vs 1 Elite unit take 11 min as it should be.
    this day everyone is just one-shot another.

  • @mor1308
    @mor1308 Před 2 lety

    50/50

  • @notiman2398
    @notiman2398 Před rokem

    In landbattles the spartans loose often times

  • @kiliandervaux6675
    @kiliandervaux6675 Před 3 měsíci

    Only pikes beat the pretorian guards in a 1vs1. Also, the lowest pikes that do it are the linothorax, and that's pretty crazy

  • @andrealapirla8877
    @andrealapirla8877 Před 2 lety

    What if the pretorians used all their javys ?

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety

      I think the same result will occur. Just 1 Spartan died from 160 javelins..

  • @jjaa9371
    @jjaa9371 Před 2 lety +2

    Royal Spartans vs Katana Samurai plz

  • @enikonov2007
    @enikonov2007 Před rokem

    Spsrta gooo

  • @prastinos6083
    @prastinos6083 Před 2 lety +1

    Only one spartan died from 160 pilums 😭

  • @GigaChadBrooskie
    @GigaChadBrooskie Před 2 lety

    This is SPARTA!!!!!!

  • @nothing00164
    @nothing00164 Před rokem +1

    Dont face spearwall like that flank them outsmart them make a gap with pilla dammit i dont like when spartans win because usually its aplain massecare if someone broke the spartans it would be cool causeits not by brute force but tactics

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před rokem

      Because no one tried this like me before, so I made this battle to see what'll happen when facing phalanx head-on

    • @nothing00164
      @nothing00164 Před rokem

      @@TotalWar1vs1 look man i like your vedios espcially the total war Shogun ones but the spartans are way too OP to be defeated head on it was kinda of expected

  • @delandel5496
    @delandel5496 Před 2 lety

    Both teams are great.

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +1

      It was very close battle.

    • @delandel5496
      @delandel5496 Před 2 lety

      @@TotalWar1vs1 Personally, I would be glad to have any of these units in my army.
      But if I had a choice, I would prefer the Roman soldiers, which would correspond to my main attacking tactics, where a lot depends on the impact force and mobility in order to quickly destroy enemy units. But in the event of a confrontation with a large cavalry and rifle army, I would prefer hoplites.

  • @igorsilva3988
    @igorsilva3988 Před rokem

    I think you are using the Royal spartans wrong. You should charge them first and activate the hoplite wall after the charge bonus.
    This way, you get the most out of the unit.

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for the tactic.

    • @igorsilva3988
      @igorsilva3988 Před rokem

      @@TotalWar1vs1 using formation attack off during hoplite wall is also better. I dont know if this still works, but give it a try ✌️

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před rokem

      @@igorsilva3988 Okay!

  • @haraldschnauzer223
    @haraldschnauzer223 Před 2 lety

    despite the pratorians having a broader formation.

  • @wildesponni4891
    @wildesponni4891 Před 2 lety

    I did account whit this Result. But in my Experience is else. If you put both on Max Lvl, the Romans dont give up as Roman Player. + The real romans would first trow more Pilas. Like this the Spatans never wonn. Seriously every Time same Result.
    Also the Ki dont use the Phalanx from beginning... How is it to upload online Fight which we do togerher?

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +1

      Sorry bro, I don't have enough time for online.

    • @wildesponni4891
      @wildesponni4891 Před 2 lety

      @@TotalWar1vs1 The fight selfe use same Time;)
      No problem Bro, then i do this whit a Friend.👌🏻

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +1

      @@wildesponni4891 Thank you bro!

  • @jimcrow582
    @jimcrow582 Před 2 lety

    What difficulty? Normal?

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, It was normal.

    • @alejandrop.s.3942
      @alejandrop.s.3942 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, it's the proper difficulty setting for test battles, since any side has bonuses nor debuffs.

  • @christopherbezuidenhout7251

    Well, when you set the difficultly to easy, and you're playing as Sparta that use spears vs Rome using swords you'll probably always win that fight. In reality swords beat spears even with the phalanx bonus.

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před rokem

      Not really, I think in real life, spears beat swords because it can attack first at longer distance

  • @DerickC_
    @DerickC_ Před 2 lety

    now put the spartans to attack praetorian and see the difference

  • @mrsandman452
    @mrsandman452 Před 2 lety

    bro you need to turn off formation attack

    • @mrsand7099
      @mrsand7099 Před 2 lety

      Turn for what ? Hoplite alway fight in phalanx formation.

  • @crimson1199
    @crimson1199 Před rokem

    Wat praetorians lost? I mean i knew spartans were strong but to think my praetorian doomstacks could potentially lose...

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před rokem

      Because their Formation Attack was turned on. Turn it off and they'll win: czcams.com/video/Kzx1cwW0R5s/video.html

  • @azerovendetta7774
    @azerovendetta7774 Před 2 lety +1

    The combats in this game are etenrals.

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety

      👍👍

    • @alejandrop.s.3942
      @alejandrop.s.3942 Před 2 lety

      These units are quite tanky, that's why the combat is long. But normally the battles are quite short. I'm used to win huge field battles in under 5 minutes, which it's actually dissapointing and unrealistic. Cavalry and missiles are OP.

  • @kuchom
    @kuchom Před 2 lety

    If you knew how the praetorian guards were in reality they would've lost immediately

  • @nguyenhoangphuc856
    @nguyenhoangphuc856 Před 2 měsíci

    very close fight indeed

  • @ripclcze8845
    @ripclcze8845 Před rokem +1

    Ha

  • @Dovahkino
    @Dovahkino Před rokem

    Honestly, i didnt expect spartans can win over praetorians. Since romans best melee fighters.

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před rokem

      Royal Spartans in phalanx defense formation are also very tough...

  • @ehsamsadegi7585
    @ehsamsadegi7585 Před rokem

    general is dead
    other factions panic and run
    spartan boys: oh no.... anyway

  • @nanaedwards8446
    @nanaedwards8446 Před rokem

    Praetorian gaurds, would of actually won if you made some flank the spartans behind as they werent looking but instead you didint.

  • @Durroque47
    @Durroque47 Před 2 lety

    Empate técnico

  • @chaddusmaximus1898
    @chaddusmaximus1898 Před 2 lety

    Not surprising, Praetorians were just overglorified bodyguards, not actual soldiers.

  • @thehappy15a
    @thehappy15a Před 2 lety

    Didn’t the praetorians just drink get bribed and occasionally stab the emperor in the back?

    • @TotalWar1vs1
      @TotalWar1vs1  Před 2 lety +1

      😈

    • @lindagoad2163
      @lindagoad2163 Před 2 lety +1

      It's one of the problems with these games. The Hastati are worse than the trariarii (im sure I've massacred those spellings) when you have to think the hastati must of been bloodied veterens by the end of a campaign whilst the Triariaii probably got fat on food and wine.

    • @thehappy15a
      @thehappy15a Před 2 lety

      @@lindagoad2163 well you had to be good to get into the triarri while the histati were like the 19 year olds just out of basic

    • @lindagoad2163
      @lindagoad2163 Před 2 lety

      @@thehappy15a no that's completely wrong. The early roman legions were based on wealth not experience. The Hastati were the poorer soldier who could only get the basic armour, principles moderately wealthy and Triarii wealth older citizens who could afford the best armour. The Velites essentially had no money and could get no armour, generally only having wooden shields and Javelins.

    • @lindagoad2163
      @lindagoad2163 Před 2 lety

      @@thehappy15a the Hastati formed the front line. And were generally so successful that the 2nd and 3rd line barely got a look in. The Triarii were the rich republicans sons and family who were probably well trained, but unless the campaign wasn't going very well would barely of seen combat. There's even a saying basically equating to "send in the triarii" roughly meaning "fight to the bitter end".

  • @grzegorzrutkowski1733

    The RTW hoplite spear was too long (the pike was the right length for that). They wanted to fix it in RTW2 and it's... too short. From one extreme to the other.
    In addition, the falga fights like regular spearmen, only using an overhead spear thrusts from time to time. The entire first line should fight like this, supported by a second line that lands horizontal spear thrusts.
    In RTW, the falaga, regardless of the region of origin, fought like a Macedonian Stygmata. But at least it was justified. A significant part of the campaign is the Hellenistic times, dominated by such a way of fighting the phalanx (they naturally resembled Macedonian units). Here, they're more Barbarian Invasion spearmen style of fighting than Spartan hoplites.

  • @SuncharaKun
    @SuncharaKun Před 2 lety

    Unfair. Praetorians didn't use their pila.

  • @AngelLopez-is12
    @AngelLopez-is12 Před rokem

    4:21

  • @AngelLopez-is12
    @AngelLopez-is12 Před rokem

    0:50

  • @tadeaspekar9043
    @tadeaspekar9043 Před 2 lety

    Well try it without special actions like Shield wall and use the whip. While the spartans ability is way big help, bcs it considerably increase the stats. The Romans advantage of attack did almost nothing, killed one soldier and use the whip after a while totally exhausts the Romans and then they fight like a shit. So you put them in a significant disadvantage. The ability should be use at the very end not in the middle. And still dont understands how spartans can have better armor than Romans

  • @empireofitalypsstimfromano5025

    The Pretorians Could Have Won But Some Of Them Just Stopped Engaging While The Spartans Were All Still Attacking.
    This Is Why The Phalanx Saved Them In The End.
    If The Pretorians Were Using A Shield Wall They Could Have Won.
    They Would Have Also Won If They Were Defending.

  • @jimmycimitir7754
    @jimmycimitir7754 Před rokem

    The clash was so anticlimactic. Even the pilla throw looked weak af. :( I miss old total war engine. We are still living the mistake CA took 15 years ago by investing in an "improved" game engine. 15 year later and they still trynna make it work....