American Basketball Players Talking About European Basketball Atmosphere
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2021
- There has been a lot of talk about European sports atmosphere. Everyone knows about the Football (soccer) atmosphere but people are just now starting to realize how insane these European basketball games get.
American basketball players aren't shy in sharing their experiences playing in such environments, this is a compilation of some of the craziest stories.
Players and teams in no particular order, Partizan Blegrade , Olympiakos Piraeus , Panathinaikos , Maccabi Tel Aviv, Fenerbahce, Red Star , Paok , Aris , Galatasaray , Kyle Hines , Candace Parker , Luka Doncic , Kevin Garnett Gary Payton, Josh Powell - Sport
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@@dragannikolic9431 pls tldr
@@dragannikolic9431 This isn't genetic. it's WWII ethnic studies....
In the US, the announcers tell the crowd to make noise.
In Europe, the announcers ask the crowd to calm down.
Announcers are just a pebble to the noise in a stadium
In the US rich people or middle class go to the games as an entertainment
In europe working class go to the games as a form of group identity thing
So true in america its all about the job in europe its a way of life
Well said, enough to me
Ain´t that the truth!
It makes me laugh because Luka Doncic played in that atmosphere in europe since he was like 15 or 16 and you honestly think that a few games in America that you're booing him while he's taking free shots will intimidate him ?
The free throw line alone intimidates him. Can’t make his freaking free throws.
@@kikomagana1990 But he can drop 40 on everyone, so yeah, your point is dumb
@@markomarkovic5729 it ain't a point, it's the truth. He's prolly like 50% from the FT, but can drop 40+ no sweat, like Shaq.
@@jardanivito Luka has a ft problem CURRENTLY, I don't know if it's shot mechanics or some psychological blockade, but his career ft% is over 73%, in Europe around 83%, which is far from bad. Simply, such things happen, and there's no rational explanation. I remember one great European player from the 90s, also from the region of former Yugoslavia (Žarko Paspalj), the best European forward at the time, who was almost automatic from the free throws, and then inexplicably shot ft's below 50% for two seasons, and then again over 85% in the last three seasons of his career. He was asked numerous times to account for the sudden loss of his shooting confidence and while he was unable to pinpoint any one cause, remarking on one occasion that the shot was a mechanism that he done for years without any problems until he began to miss regularly and question himself. Many years later, he said that for years he had a minor injury to the shooter's arm, which he didn't completely heal, and that this was most likely the cause. I didn't notice that Luka changed his shot mechanics, so I think this is just a momentary lack of confidence, which is strange, considering that he's able to drop 40pts triple-double every night and that he's a clutch.
@@jardanivito He's a scorer not a shooter. Oh and throughout his career he's in the 70% region from the freethrow line like Lebron. This playoff series is an anomaly.
Greece, Serbia, Turkey. Holy trinity of european crazines.
facts
Turkey isn't European
@Jak Zak youre trolling right?
@@the4thindustrialrevolution225 Have a look at the map b4 you act like you know it
@@orhanesman7487 yep and you're not European
What Americans don’t really seem to fathom is that European sports rivalries have been around for hundreds of years usually class battles
I would say yes, Europe has a very different and much older history than America's. We made wars, battles, and fought each others for centuries and centuries, even millennia .. neighborhood versus neighborhood, city vs city, local lord vs local lord, king vs king, nation vs nation .. (I'm Italian)
Bingo. The biggest European rivalries also tend to involve left-right politics. A club often becomes a symbol of the political aspirations of the community it comes from
@@brothoftheworldbro4333 Why can't you all just chill, godamn don't you have weed.
@@wolfhide4488 you got weed and America ain't chill so.....
What americans dont fathom is LOYALTY..even the king and his peasants have non of that..😅😅😅
in europe the game is for the people. in the us its for those who can afford expensive things
Poorly behaved fans! Terrible!
@@markbantz9699 Americans don't get to tell us how to behave hahahaha
@@SHlV some of them are funny sometimes
@@markbantz9699 then go watch golf, where you need to behave
@@markbantz9699 Fans in Europe are not pussies.
That's why it makes me laugh when people talk about Boston and new York as these intimidating atmospheres. You could go to a 4th division match of football in England and the atmosphere would be 10x more intimidating than anything in the US. They just don't get it compared to Europe
I agree but the problem is in my opinion that u cant have ppl spiting or throwing bottles on players in Europe hooligans are a huge problem for the game it self lots of ppl in Greece dont want to go in a big game with their kids cause they are afraid that maybe hooligans will make the game a battlefield
Other than that for me chanting and yelling and the overall atmosphere is fine as long as ppl dont throw stuff or fight there needs to be a line and the Nba is doing good banning ppl that throw stuff or spit on players imo trashtalking is ok now the racist stuff im unsure how to adress them cause there are so manny ppl out there saying them on both leagues and i doubt any of those leagues would ban half the fans or so
@@comptonGANGBANG it would be better without the throwing, but it is what it is. Everything has positive and negative sides. In NBA, there is no throwing, great basketball, but dead atmosphere, more atmosphere in a library.
In Europe there are flares, throwing stuff, average basketball quality(it's getting better and better), but unrealistically good atmosphere.
Yeah but 4th division English football is horrible.
@@tripperdelaluna1 yeah but supporting your small local club gives you 10 times more joy than supporting the big rich club from other city.
@@user-ov6xm1zx7p aged badly
The Clubs in Europe are not Franchise Circuses like in the States.. For the fans in Europe the Club is part of their identity ...inseparable.
They tried to make it a franchise with the super league... look how it turned out🤣
@@watchullaI Talk about all the Clubs and extreme situations are not the daily routine.
In europe sports are tribal. A tribe is more important than anything. Americans cant understand that. Its pure love, its pure hate. Its war for survival. Its not about sports, its them vs us situation.
@@kczorammuana1069 you mean football?
American system is better.. In europe only big club will get the champions.
My best friend is Partizan (BG) Fan and his Fahrer is Red Star (BG) Fan and After a derby they don't talk 2-3 weeks to each other 😂😂
Lmao 😂
@@TokyoBalletReprise 😅😂✌
how does a red star father allow his son to become partizan ?lol
@@samelmudir what is that for a stupid question? Are you living in North Korea buddy? Its his choise 😅
@@alenjebiga189 nikad cuo nesto slicno uvek otac utice na decu
Sport in US: it's all entertainment, it's all business
Sport in europe: it's a religion, it's the way of life
considering the history of Europe, its better than warfare
Kinda sad
Europe sounds pathetic lol
@@user-gc3qj7md8c how so?
@@joual9299 It's pretty simple, Americans treat sports like what they are (entertainment/business). Whereas Europeans treat them like their personal religion. Sports are not a holy thing that should be treated in such a way.
In the NBA they only have one chant which is ‘defence defence’.
🤣🤣🤣🤣😆😆🤣😂🤣
Don’t forget “mvp”😂😂😂😂
Everybody clap your hand!!! *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap*
The only defence that NBA has is in the chant
😂😂😂😂😂😂 facts
USA discovering sports aren’t only TV shows
Yeah, in Europe they're TV shows that crazy people go to watch. Big difference.
Yeah exactly, in our opinion sports are passion. We wake up with football, sleep with basketball.
@@koalabandit9166 better to get some steam off at the stadium then shooting kid at school I guess
13:50 - Like Crips vs Bloods
The passion is certainly impressive, but it's no good if you are being disrespectful (spitting) or even harmful (throwing firecrackers and hard objects) to anyone, but especially to the players and the people working there.
On one hand American fans are not as passionate so that kind of intense atmosphere is lacking, but on the other hand you can be fairly certain that you are not going to get harassed or injured as a fan or as a player.
As a Real Madrid fan, I remember attending some games in Athens, Greece. Local fans went crazy during the match, against the visiting team, throwing them coins (the bigger ones), seats, flares, lighters, beer cans, everything they had...
It was terrifying AF!!!
Fun fact, greek basketball team Olympiakós arena is called 'Peace and friendship stadium'
ageDC LOL!!! Fun fact, greek basketball team Olympiakós arena is called 'Peace and friendship stadium' hahahahahahahaha
Isn't it the same in Spain? At least for soccer/football?
And what about the Football War from 1969 between El Salvador and Honduras (Football served as a kind of cause, but the real reason was previous tensions between the two countries - they are both Spanish-speaking countries).
You are welcome, peace and friendship given every day of the week.
A ahahahahahahaha true that.
Como el del maccabi ,,,Yad Eliyahu y en los años 80-90-2000 .era también en sus partidos calientes ,increíble .
Luka was playing here when he was a teenager. We all knew he was going to be a star, but basketball in Europe doesn’t get appreciated enough.
I have seen him also since he was 15. To be honest I didn't believe he will be that good in the NBA.
It was so funny listening some people talking about if he can stand the pressure in the NBA. The atmosphere you can see tells you it`s more than just appreciated, basketball is adored.
Hey, I'm trying to get more into other leagues. Euroleague being the second best, I'd like to start watching. Would you happen to know where I can find their games ? After that I'll look into the NBL or something else
@@ivangoran4461 Doncic actually said in the euroleague he had a tougher time to score compated to the nba
Yeah bcz soccer is king in europe
"is it like LA-Boston". Oh bless, KG. :D.
No Kevin, Fenerbache-Gala is not like LA-Boston.
Yeah it's completely different, noise level alone is on another level
The rivalry between Boston Celtics and L.A. Lakers in NBA can be compared to that which exists in European football between Liverpool and Manchester UTD in England, or that between Real Madrid and Barcelona in Spain, or that between Juventus and Inter or Milan in Italy. But here we are just talking about "sporting rivalry" between big clubs. "Fan rivalries" in Europe, such as that between Fenerbache and Galatasaray in Turkey, are something else, definitely..
@@brothoftheworldbro4333 No. Not even close.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Garnett is a clown.
a lot of rivalries in europe go beyond sports themselves. Since we can't go to war against each other anymore we pour our hearts onto sports and I honestly think it's very meaningful and helps a lot in creating healthy relations
US fans going to a sport event: "We are going to be entertained, gonna catch up with Mike, have not seen him in a long time, gonna have some beers, watch a great game, feel the thrill, cheer and support our team, we will bond with our dads and sons, and spend some time away from the missus".
European fans going to a sport event: "TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL".
Years ago I was in Serbia and went to a Red Star game because a team from my country came there when I was there. So, I went to the game. I was more in awe with the Serbian fans than with the game haha. Really good atmosphere. The singing, the cheering, the noise, the earthquake from all the jumping in unison as you see in this video in the beginning... goosebumps.
100% right. I remember once I tried watching a baseball game, there was a time where the camera men focused on the people and I saw a couple guys taking a nap in the middle of the game LOL.
Well spoken
Perfect description! 100% accurate 😄
Ah. I remember a bar from a fan song that roughly translates to "And we're about to show this nation how arena violence is conducted"
It's no coincidence that Greece is never picked as a country for abroad NBA games.
yup...although they are a huge Basketball nation
Its not picked because its a poor market. No one would fight over NBA clubs lol
Τι να μας πει κ ο κυριος αυγολεμονος
its a small market. nba has nothing to gain from greece and considering that nba games are all early in the morning for us in greece, its a no go... i mean no man with a job can stay up that late at night to watch a fucking game and the kids that have the time to do that dont have the money to buy nba sub etc... when i was younger i used to watch constantly... now i havent seen a game for years... and its not like i dont want to watch yiannis...
There's no arena in Greece fulfilling the NBA standards, unlike most European countries. We have either too small or too degraded or just not modern enough arenas.
More Americans should watch this video, so they see the difference and understand why it's so emotionaly easier for europeans to play in the NBA
Physically very few european players make it in the USA! It’s like soccer hooligans in europe!
@@markbantz9699 Europeans are dominating your league btw
@@shenbunno7442 the best american football team without european players can't even compete with mid tier teams in europe.
@@markbantz9699 The fans that go to football games, are also the ones cheering at basketball games in Europe.
@@markbantz9699 Giannis Antetonounmpo, Luka Doncic, Nikola Jokic. The last 2 years Giannis won the mvp, and this year Jokic will win it. These guys are European btw
If a player has experienced the rivalry between Olympiakos Vs. Panathinaikos, Red Stars Vs. Partisan & Fenerbache Vs. Galatasaray in Greece, Serbia & Turkey repsectively, then nothing can intimidate him. Mind you that the rivalry is not limited to basketball only. We talk about multi-sport clubs, so there is rivalry in football, volleyball etc; at least that's the case in Greece. There is real, abyssal hate between the fans of the rival teams the roots of which are not related only to sports but have a social, political and economic background.
Yes in Italy you have that with soccer.
Some top soccer teams in Europe have affiliated basketball teams, and just like Barcelona and Real Madrid!
@@yamwaimeng5933 They are not... affiliated; they are the same teams, with many... 'branches' in different sports.
You're right dude
@@yamwaimeng5933 it's not only top teams, many many small teams are multisport.
MSG with the "fuck Trae Young" chants is cute by comparison.
Facts.
Thats it????
Trae would shit his pants in a Gala Fener game in turkey.
@@kemaltiryakioglu3434 so true. 😁
the "the trae is balding" though, that was another level...
American basketball arenas are full of middle-aged rich people who go there to have a good evening, like when they go to dinner at a restaurant. European basketball ares are full of young people from working class who want to have a fight with opposing team's fans.
we keep getting priced out of games man, the ticket prices just keep climbing higher and higher
@@doransshield9176 And it unfortunately will keep getting worse and worse
Well said. As a Greek living in the US I would much rather go to a Panathinaikos euroleague game (not just playoffs, any game) rather than an NBA game. Especially regular season in the NBA is boring as f.
That's why you need to organize, Ultras have a voice over here.
Honestly those Basketball fans are utterly unhinged. And not in a good way. There's really nothing admirable about idiots spitting at players and throwing flares onto the court.
Partizan, Red Star, Panathinaikos, Olympiacos, Fenerbahce, Maccabi have the craziest fans !
Greece, Serbia, Turkey is something else
Aris too
truth
Žalgiris and Baskonia are great too
@@moken_v89 Zalgiris has good atmosphere but not craziest fans, and i wrote panathinaikos, read again, and of course our PAOK brothers but they aint that huge in basketball like teams above...
In America, they have hotdog eating competitions at halftime.
@@roberto5red5rocky85 is that even a question? Euro every single time. You can watch the nba finals on tv and get more or less the same from it. In Europe it’s different kinda crazy.
@@rossmurray3724 Right
ross murray 100% Euro finals ..
@@roberto5red5rocky85 definitely NBA but that’s because I don’t know anything about euro basketball.
@@roberto5red5rocky85 I don’t go to “party” there’s no disputing the nba has the best standard of basketball players in the world, however there is no atmosphere in most of the games. I’m from Britain where our football (soccer) games atmosphere is electric.
I haven’t been to an NBA game myself but I watch a lot of them and they seem too much about dancing and eating rather than supporting your team and really getting lost in the moment through pure passion and/or hatred for the other team.
That’s sports to me
In America people go to the matches to enjoy their family time, date etc...but in Europe it's a passion to be in the match
Rich people mostly.
But that's how it used to be here in the US until the games started pricing the avg fan out for the rich folk
In Europe bring family to the games seems like a joke. You have to protect your family.
@@pdsvag do you guys get a lot of fight in the game
In southern Europe, you believe in your team with heart and soul, you live for that colors.
It's not sitting on your chair, eating popcorn and chanting "defense defense"
Just Southern?
Everywhere!
All europe
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@@300subscriberswithoutanyvideos In basketball? LOL. Only southern Europe! Or I should say Greece, Serbia, and Turkey.
In Europe, the clubs are usually directly connected to football clubs, and the football clubs are community assets and not franchises. You can see how much better the atmosphere tends to be in US college sports where they are also community assets. They belong to the town and everyone who lives there. Franchises sport makes things disposable.
, today almost all of the clubs belongs to private people also in football.
What makes the fans so good is the fans organizations. They pave the atmosphere.
NBA and U.S. professional sports in general are lacking the fan organizations who would start singing and jumping pave the atmosphere for people who would be passive without them , oriented fans can really electrify all the building when they are on fire.
College sports are more oriented because all of the students are more oriented, and they have band and college culture.
Ocigledno si primio fajzera. Nisi pri pameti😂😂
Make a point
We have a chant in Turkey sung when the atmosphere sucks: “This is no cinema or theater”. After it is sung, everyone stands up, joins the chants and never sits back down throughout the game. In a home game, you’ve gotta turn the “Arena” or stadium into hell for the visitors. It’s not just basketball, it’s the same for football, volleyball, even for handball for some clubs. A few years ago, Timo Werner, current Chelsea striker who played for RB Leipzig back then, could not complete a game in Istanbul against Beşiktaş due to a problem with his ears caused by the super loud whistle-booing mixture in the stadium when they had the ball. I’m proud to say I was at the stands that day :)
In the States, sports culture is more like watching cinema or theater. You get to the “gym”, have some nice time and get back home. I’m not saying it’s wrong, it’s just completely different. They even call the Arena a gym, what the hell for God’s sake 😂 You’re not there to workout bro, you’re there for the fight!
This with Werner was to good bro 😅😂 The Atmosphere in the Besiktas stadium is brutal 😍😎 I was 2018 there when i was in Istanbul 💪
Imagine thinking that giving athletes eardamage is a good idea smh
Glad I'm not in one of those countries. I like to survive unharmed when I go to a sports match...
@@rusedgin safe? Fans get killed here too. Especially at NFL games.
@@rusedgin Ha ha...man you should go out and explore more...leave your comfort zone...If you come to Europe....or better Eastern Europe you will discover a new world....you will have something to tell your children what sport traditions really means...🏴☠️🇬🇷😎🇷🇴🇪🇺
We in PANATHINAIKOS love Gist, he is our boy☘️
in serbia partizan fans love gist
Yo you guys are nuuuts with that atmosphere and the dedication.And this comes from a balkan,i'm Romanian and our basketball is not that great but we still have nice fans.But Paok and Panathinaikos and different breed bro,its something else,at every sport,handball,football especially, basketball
@@kwabenamochoka4361 Partizan fans hate Gist.. JUDA
Gist da boy fr fr
Fenerbahçe 💙💛🇹🇷
"It's like Crisps and Bloods" - Yes, he got it :D
It is kinda like american gangs, but way more traditional.
@@user-ov6xm1zx7p Also it's about your city, region, state or religion etc. Especially at derbys. Not about some superficial Jaguars, Rangers or Bears mascotts who travel to the next city in a few years.
Crisps 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@danijelprincic4337 Auto-correction of the device 😂
Man in Greece it is exactly like this...if you go down to Piraeus with a panathinaikos shirt you will get beaten up,stabbed robbed.Same if you go to certain areas in Athens in an Olympiakos shirt. Fan clubs are like barracks with bats,iron-fists,flares
As european, this video lowkey makes me proud.
Same. We crazy and we OWN it
Us brits are absolutely mental crowds, but man some of the eastern Europeans put us the SHAME
I was a football fan in switzerland for 20 years, home games, away games, chanting, screaming, anything...then a polish club visited us...o my...😅
So it should My bro. Europeans sports clubs are the best in the world. The passion, history, rivalries are immense
Olympiacos Greece❤
Games in Europe is the closest someone can get to a warzone 🤣
There are/were literally war zones in Europe 2021
@@DelijeSerbia or in 1999 when USA bom Belgrade
@@Zacheus29man u have no idea... if artest did that in europe he wouldnt be walking out of arena and im 100 percent sure of that no matter in what city they play
I saw a water polo game played outdoors in Croatia, the teams brought old school pirate ships and docked right beside the game. They were lighting off live flares from the top of the ships throughout the whole game. Wildest sporting experience i've ever seen.
Polo, handball, volleyball. Insane atmospheres here in the Balkans.
water polo? Like on the back of swimming horses?
@@ronny-lb1cr water polo is like handball but in water. So you have. 2 goals and you need to score the ball.
@@balloe3466 okay thanks. I'm from a non-English speaking country where "polo" is the game on horses trying to score a wooden ball in the opponent's goal protected by goalkeeper on a horse
@@balloe3466 btw now that you explained it we call water polo "wasser ball"
USA games would be more exciting if they were affordable.
Except it's very exciting here
It's main difference.
In US ppl who got money goes on sport events to have fun.
In Eastern Europe ppl who don't have money go on sport events to blow steam out in order not to riot, at least 70% of them.
@@aleksandarcvetkovic5436 😂, i mean maybe its just some people fun is very extreme😂
@@abelathafilbert6137
Haha, yeah, it's fun on CZcams highlights:)
But when stampede starts, and you are between adrenaline crowd and guest team player who pissed hardcore fans(they are 70% spectators) than things get different perspective.
@@aleksandarcvetkovic5436 yeah, sometimes people too tired and misleaded. i think many sports clubs has good principle or fundamental, but somehow or someway its being used to make violence and war
Eastern Europe, the Balkans, Greece and Turkey is a different story man. Being a fan is a religion over there. They don't need a screen telling them to get loud or turn up the heat. It is there everytime.
Going to football or basketball games in Turkey is dangerous, 10 days ago, a Fenerbahce Galatasaray basketball game had been played. Before the game there was violence between fans of the two clubs. People get hurt and even die. During the game the fans of both groups had to leave the arena. You would never see this in the US.
Prtizan - Red Star, Olympiakos - Panatheikos, Fenerbachi - Gala..... and several other teams.... the security goes out in full riot gear with shields and armor...
Fenerbahçe 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💛💛💛💛💛💛💛🇹🇷
Good to hear the players talk about their playing experiences. Well done.
Italian and Spanish fans are passionate, in Israel they're hardcore, but Turkey, Serbia and Greece are on a whole other level. It's like in football ⚽. European crowds are much more animated and much louder but also more intimidating. IYou can see it in football, basketball, rugby...even handball. Sports clubs are part of the community, they have history and fans are very loyal.
The thing in Europe is many of these rivalries are going over 100 years, starting with football, then basketball teams that are part of the same team as a football team inherit those beefs. And unlike American sports, European sports are very integrated into the society they come from. So when a team wins, the community also gains. Now imagine that kind of relationship where people today can say my great great great grandfather and everyone after him supported this team.
Love for Red Star and Partizan... Hope we go far in our europian competitons...Serbia 🇷🇸
FCK partizaj scums
I would like to see kyrie play one game in europe just to see him cry mid game lmao
I’m a nets fan, and I wanna see it.
Of God I can see him walking off because is feeling is hurt 🤣😂😂.
You are right the real racist are over there.🤗🤗
@@thebinarygeekfx3117 how am i racist bruh
@@brunocigic5097 I am not saying you are racist at all. Kyrie thinks everything had to do with racism. I was trying to say if he thinks some fans in American are racist then he is gonna shit bricks if he ever plays in Europe.
And they thought Iverson was crazy for playing in Turkey. In NBA you can be an mvp, a superstar, a leading roll in your team - but in Grece, Serbia, Israel - you can become a real heroe. Lebron, Curry, Shaq - may claim they've got it all, but they're terribly wrong.
And Iverson played at Besiktas. Im a Besiktas fan mostly watching football(soccer). But till this day, till this day and that will go on, Iverson has a near God status at Besiktas fans. There is an area called Besiktas in Istanbul. Football is more popular but Iverson..whole another level. Iverson came to the team with the baddest fans, 100% with football the same as basketball. We thank him for his input 💪
@@onurcoskun333 Congratulations on your league title in football!Besiktas most passionate support from 3 big Istanbul clubs.Respect from Red Star fan!
@@onurcoskun333 IA was way off his prime at that time, but nevermind - it was a great move both for him and the club. Turkish league's been really strong in the past few years no doubt.
@@onurcoskun333 taubah don’t ever say that
Oh please Lebron....that cry baby wouldn't last a day.
I gotta say being a Serbian. Living in a neighbourhood where there are 4 football clubs around it with violent fan histories (partizan, zvezda, vozdovac and rad) it gives depth to the sport but its also a breeding ground for criminal works. These ultra fans get kids who are not doing good in life and give them a ,,purpose,, they fight and many die in organized fights against other clubs. Also in many cases the leaders of these groups will use members to sell drugs.
There are a lot of dark stories like that. Personally yeah the atmosphere is great but in many cases u dont want your kids to become fanatics of the clubs and end up dead or becoming addicts.
Many of my friends destroyed their lives because of it. Its okay to be a fan but also to do it with respect, thats what to me a true fan is.
believe me, in Turkey even in wheelchair basketball there are hooligans making more atmosphear than in US. No joke :-)
i coached american football in germany and went to a basketball game in our city which held about 3000 people. Man it was wild just drums and screaming fans going nuts, what a time
All the love to Greece, from brothers from the north.
We love you, we stand together.
I'm a maccabi fan and i know how loud and crazy we can be in a game. But it's still nothing compare to Greece. They are literally coming for war lol
And it's not that different in turkey. And it's not just two hours before the game in the arena. It's starting at the minute you are stepping out from your house when you meet another fan on the road.
Greek fans have much love and respect to Maccabi fans. Cheers
maccabi fans r in the group man
Europeans have been chanting and cheering for their favorite sportsball team since before the US of A was even a twinkle in the eye of the British Empire.
Thats completly false. Modern mass sports became a thing only at mid-end 19th century.
Nope the real reason is history in the europe peoples live in the same place for the centuries that's why they know everyone around them and can pack a strong bond some of them use that bond for a hard core cheerleading. In the US peoples move all the time, they doesnt have this type of bond everything is more superficial including cheerleading
@Dank Waifu before you call bullshit check your facts, before the 19th century most of the games were very local on the district level.
@@Indium1H You check your facts, you are lost. Ever heard of the Olympics? Roman chariot racing, the nascar of it's time? And it goes further than that... I dunno what particular league you're referring to, but that ain't the first, not even close. Just for football history, here's something www.footballhistory.org/
Sports, and rooting for your boys, have been going here for a looong time.
@@Indium1H what? Olympics started near 3000 years ago. Ancient Rome chariot racing had the craziest fans. Google Nika Riots perhaps.
Gary Payton character would be an perfect candidate for fans favourite player, he doesn’t know that he would love it. I m European, I know it.
Damn right Luka. Am not an Olympiacos fan but I am proud of greek fans. Savage.
He didnt talk about olympiakos
@@giannisvar4414 yeah but he talked about Greek matches. With who you think he played?? Μεταξύ μας κοροϊδευομαστε;;;😅😅
In Europe you are a Fan for Life....the same Team for Generations....that's why "European Players" are so tough, you CANNOT intimidate them. People think you can scare them in the NBA, this is NOTHING!!!
I am Dutch, and we already don't care...but my wife is from Piraeus, Greece. I've been in the football stadium, and it goes loose.
I love that aggressive atmosphere.
Pireaus is gay and soft as the rest of Athens
Even after all those years ... Still can hear how much excitement they got in their voices 😅 nice memories
Imagine playing in Europe in the 1980s and all the front row seats around the court are riot police with helmets, shields, batons protecting the court. In LA you have a-list celebrities in those seats. That’s life and death pressure, not just your pay check.
1980's nobody was watching basketball in Europe ! Seats were always empty ! Just some of the people were watching NBA games from tv !
@@Doordas Empty seats? tf are you talking about. Not in Greece, Yugoslavia, Spain or italy, that's for sure
In Europe we have the "ultras" and the "hooligans", both in football (soccer) and basketball..
Also in handball, waterpolo, hockey, volleyball and other sports
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Basically in all team sports, more ore less, true ..
@@user-ov6xm1zx7p also in marbeling, chess and knitting. There are the hardest fans. A pint in the left hand and a knive in the other.
@@NutsInYourMouth if you dont believe me, look it up.
@@user-ov6xm1zx7p Ayoo broo u mentioned waterpolo big up
I would say this is a different concept of sport. In US they go to a game just to have fun, in many cases they are not real supporters of the team, even the team can change to another city in the next years, so they go to the Arena to see a show more than a game (cheerleader, food, kiss camera....). On the other hand, in Europe the fans go to the Arena to support their team, becasue they love their team. The concept is totally different.
Guys just imagine Rodman at his best playing in Greece or Turkey in the middle of the 80 beginning 90. I am sure that all the fans would adore him.. Rodman loves to play in hot Stadium
Ahaha, i would love to see it as a Turk. Where are you from btw?
@@iyu23 France..From Brittany Bretagne in french. Town Dinan
@@french.blackdevil1967 how is the atmosphere over there, in France?İs it like in Greece or Turkey as well?
@@iyu23 Absolutely Not so hot so passionated. If You go to watch a match at Limoges or Pau Orthez 2 great teams the atmosphere is hot but not the same as Turkey, Greece or countries from ex Yougoslavia. Those 2 teams won a lot of french championship and also european Cup
@@french.blackdevil1967 Frenchs are really good at basketball as well. İ hope French teams will catch up the top european teams and compete and keep the pace up with european teams. İ would like to see France, İtaly getting better in Euroleague. That would be good to market european basketball. İ know Moerman and beaubois from Efes btw. Good players.
I laughed my ass off when they banned for life fans who threw popcorn at players, a bottle nearly hitting the flat earther and of course the one time a fan called Westbrook Westbrick and he told the guards to remove him from the arena. Gesus fn Christ.
Westbrick
I don’t care where you are from, spitting is a sign of disrespect and uncalled for. That’s disgusting.
@@lexis4490 Yeah idk where they from but we don't tolerate nobody spitting on us, that's a killable offense over here
@@lexis4490 but that's precisely why they spit, they want to show disrespect. Spitting is mild stuff.
@@lexis4490 Of course it's disgusting it's meant to rattle you and make you incredibly uncomfortable. People don't understand that in Europe, for better or for worse, sporting events are just a way for groups of people that despise one another to handle their dispute a little more peacefully than just kill eachother, it's a modern day physical clash between communities
And some say that it is embarrassing for Trae Young, when the Garden chants "he is balding", lol.
LOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!
Back in '09 the whole arena sang "Carlos Delfino son of a bitch" for 5-10 minutes...dude stopped flopping and went 0-5 in the third quarter ☠️
3:16 "The man that I am..."
Euro fans: "...means nothing here."
🤣🤣
As a hockey lover living in Germany, I've visited more hockey matches here than I can count. Thanks to the passionate fans, a visit to the game is always entertaining, win or lose, and the prices are affordable too.
When I visited New York with my girlfriend in 2019, I obviously wanted to experience a real NHL game. Luckily for us, there were two games when we were there and booked tickets for both of them (Rangers at Madison Square Garden, in case anyone's interested). I left afterwards with mixed feelings though: While the level of hockey was world class and the game was exciting, the atmosphere inside the arena almost felt like I was in a graveyard. Never ever had I experienced a silent crowd like this and the spectators sometimes barely seemed to care about the game. Which is odd, considering that I ended up paying about 240$ per game and ticket for decent but not great seats. 480$ is usually an entire season ticket in Europe.
So although I do not regret doing that, I'll stick to the "wilder" European atmosphere from now. Much more exciting and lively.
Yes! I had the same experience with hockey. There was more crowd energy in my small city team game than in an actual NHL game. Definitely feels very different. It’s like people would look at you weird because you’re cheering too loudly for your team. Not saying it’s bad but a bit underwhelming
In american sports especially baseball, the fans busy stuffing their faces.
As someone who lives in Germany can you tell what is the popularity of basketball in Germany? Handball? Volleyball? football? Ice hockey ? Water Polo?
Are there areas in Germany where a specific sport is more popular than in other cities?
@@user-qu9ku3dr5y Football is by far the most popular sport here. You have teams in the SECOND division filling up stadiums holding 30.000+ spectators (under normal circumstances, that is). That's more than many top teams in other countries are gathering.
Basketball is developing and increasing in popularity, with some teams being Euroleague ready, but it still has some way to go to rival the top European leagues.
Volleyball is on the decline. Interest is low and there isn't much money invested in it, which make Germany a pretty poor destination for professional volleyball players.
Ice hockey is faring better than basketball and many teams can definitely compete with top teams from Finland and the Czech Republic. Atmosphere is pretty good too. Trouble is, it is becoming financially unattractive and only about three teams average anything coming even close to NHL attendance numbers.
Water polo I don't follow, so I have no clue, but you don't really hear anything about that even in sports media. The best German team would probably be beaten easily by an average Greek team.
As for the popularity: People are interested in most sports all around the country, but it is definitely in southern Germany where most successful teams are based. Northern Germany lost a tremendous amount of decent teams over the years and as such, interest in investments has declined in the North. It also depends on the affiliation each city has with its teams. Hamburg, for instance, which prided itself as a "sports city" until a few years ago, has not one single team in the top division of any major sport. Football is second class (two teams), hockey is third class. Only basketball is in the top division, but with mixed results in the last years.
So as with everything, it depends. Interest in sports is high, but depending on the sports you want to watch, you are better off in the South.
The europeans should stopping taking pride in babriic behavior.
In Greece we have two words to describe fans. One is "φίλαθλος- philathlos" which means person that loves the sport and we use it for the normal people that just want to watch the game and have a good time and the other one is "οπαδός-opados" which means follower ,like following a cult, and we use it to describe the idiots that burn things up and hit people and are fanatical about the sport. Usually because there are opadoi (plural of opados) in the stadium normal people don't go to watch the match
Οι φανατικοί δεν είναι αυτοί που χτυπάνε και καίνε;
Οι οπαδοί είναι ενδιάμεση κατηγορία μεταξύ των φανατικών και φιλάθλων.
Straight up, there is no atmosphere like Serbia, Turkey, Greece...
IV been to a Partizan Game and during the warm up Predrag Drobnjak broke the backboard and delayed the start by like 30 minutes... Damn the fans got so fired up in that 30 minutes it was magical lol the electrical feeling that goes through your body is amazing.
Europe is just different when it comes to sports. I’m remember visiting Genoa, Italy a few years ago and walking by the train station. It was surrounded by riot police and there were cops cars everywhere. I got nervous because I thought it might have been a terrorist attack… Turns out the cops were just there to escort AC Milan football fans to the stadium for their game against Sampdoria lol.
Imagine the crowd reaction if they see their team's star player leaving his team with 5 minutes left.
He better move out of town and never come back or he gonna get beat down bad. Damn, nobody ever thinks of that kind of stuff. Talking back to the fans after the loss.. damn, they gotta stay still, cry and take all the abuse.
You got payed to win, you lost so you failed at your duty. You aint gonna get away with that shit easy.
USA sport: boring fans, all about entertainment
European sport: the atmosphere damn crazy all about passion
"Lets go team! Lets go team!" *clap clap clap*
That is all I hear in USA. European crowds in almost every sport are insane.
If there was a golf macth or tennis match between fenerbahce&galatasaray, olympiacos&panathinaikos we would talk about the same thing. It isnt just about the basketball, its just passion
Few times after BC Partizan's game who they lost fans stayed 2 hours after and didn't want to leave the arena, singing about their love for Partzan.
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Greetings from Partizan Belgrade.🇷🇸🇷🇸👏👏
ti si neki milan nisi ti partizan sta pricas
Love to Belgrade from Athens Greece
what americans don't get is the belonging you have with teams, because american teams are corporations that even change cities and they are just there with silly names to make some money and if it doesn't work they go away. In europe or south america teams are 120 years old or something similar, there is a big sense of community in the teams, when you meet someone from your team you like that guy instantly no matter who he is. And your grandfather love that team more than his own family probably. And they are not corporations, they have full elections and everything they are own by the people which most of the time pay money every month like a youtube patreon. The players that grew up in the team and go abroad to play, they come back because of this feeling of belonging many times to try and retire as champions in their team. To put an example is like patriotism, your team is like your country you will fight for it, some people even die for it unfortunately. Also there is politics involve many times, the team from the poorest regions will represent the left and the richest region will have the right wing of politics as their "flag" figuratively.
Pretty good explained.
This explains why I’ve never really understood american professional teams. It’s just rooting for a corporation.
Patriotism is dumb though. I never understood being proud of being within an imaginary line that was drawn up through war and conquest. I used to think that Americans were too patriotic but with Europeans it borders on full fledged nationalism
@@pullupthen5073 whats wrong with being proud to your own brethren?
All said very well
Kyle Hines back to back Euroleague titles with Olympiakos 🔴⚪
We'll always love you brother !!
Fenerbahçe 💙💙💙💛💛💛🇹🇷
Thing is, not only are these rivalries hundreds of years old, but they're between cities that literally went to war against each other. So it's the new war
Urmărești fenomenul ultra ?
Stefania the rivalries are certainly not hundreds of years old, maybe they are 60 years old but that’s it. Also Greeks didn’t war each other city vs city for almost 2 thousand years so your comment doesn’t make sense
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My experiences seeing basketball and Soccer in Europe for the first time blew my mind. Seriously, words can't explain that energy. The closest thing in the US we have would be the NBA finals. And still doesn't compare.
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I had the opportunity to watch tons of Basketball games in Madrid. Playoff basketball. Barcelona, Real Madrid. Adecco Estudiantes. It rocked. It was such a pure experience. The team. The game. The fans. That's it. There are various reason why the NBA will never create that atmosphere - and I attended NBA games. 1. The fans are always aware that NBA teams are commercial enterprises and part of a larger entertainment industry. The game is constantly interrupted to create commercial breaks. It is so disruptive and annoying filled with noise and pointless activities. My team is down 2 points and needs a stop or need to score. The last thing I want to see is a group of over-caffeinated teenagers flinging cheap T-Shirts into the audience. You get to the point where you stop caring. You just want the game to end. 2. Fans don't relate to their teams the way it is happening in Europe, at least not in places like Spain, Greece, Turkey, Croatia, Serbia. Teams are owned by billionaires who are happy to re-locate to another market if they make more money. They are not part of the cultural and social identity 3. Attendance is super-expensive in the NBA and you get a bunch of well-offs attending who are not true fans.
In Europe, when you go to watch sport you’re not just going there to watch it. You are part of the contest itself. In England the home supporters are often collectively referred to as “The 12th man.” Meaning they are the 12th competitor for the home side against an 11 sided opposition.
Though you are not there to play in the match, you go to put your heart on the line with your team to submit the opposition to defeat.
“The 12th man” is decisive, there are many stadiums across Europe where it is so difficult to get any results because “the 12th man” is so strong. I support Liverpool Football Club and on some big night games you can just hear the rumble of a great battle taking place from mile across the city.
i am PAOK thessaloniki fan from Greece !!! if we had a ping pong team we would go in every game and burn the stadium !!!!
Im from Brazil , and the soccer culture is like that , and in the european basketball is all soccer clubs , Barcelona , Real Madrid, Bayern , Galatasaray , Fenerbahçe, so all the fans from soccer go to the basketball games to support their team , and if you see in soccer games is like that , soccer is the biggest sport in the world because of that , every country in europe ,africa , south america they live this culture of die hard fans, NBA fans cannot even compare to soccer teams fans....
Comparing Fenerbahce and Galatasaray to Celtics/Lakers should be illegal. They have no idea lmao.
I can't imagine what US national team reaction when they had to play against greece (and of course with Giannis in it) in Athens for Olympic gold medal match
Have spent a fair bit of time in Turkey and on my first visit bought a Gala shirt.
The nice bloke I bought it from asked if I was travelling around various sites in Istanbul and then advised me not to wear it.
They'll literally kill eachother over rivalry in Turkey 😂
Yes they would kill eachother. Where are you from?
@@iyu23 from the UK mate but father lives in Turkey so get there most years.
Was also lucky enough to spend a solid 4 months there travelling around.
Great country, great people and fascinating history and sites.
@@badgershands why gala bro fener shirt looks better blue is my favorite colour and it looks nice with yellow gala is like fire red and orange
Hines! Thank you for your time with Olympiacos!
hahaha we may be crazy but we love this game.Greetings from Greece!!
Its not only a rivalry between teams in Europe it’s a deep old entrenched rivalry between cities and regions and classes and all that is funneling into these sports events. Those teams sometimes are also very old (in football for example over a hundred years basketball less so as it’s a newer sport here) and are representations of their location so it would be absolutely unthinkable for a team to move like the nets did or the supersonics that would be the death of the team in 99% of the cases.
Thank you so much for these videos! They are super interesting
This conversation is gold!
I was never particularly impressed by Gist as a player, but his last sentence was a great bit of insight into the fan's mentality, and his sincerity in admitting he might not love the game as much as the fans, made an impression.
Back in the late 80's my coach refed internationally and told a story from a regular club match in Spain. After the last whistle the refs ran off the court with police with shields covering them while fans were throwing everything at them. They went directly to a car waiting to take them to the hotel. It didn't matter how the refs performed. The losing team's fans would kill them if they got the chance.
I liked the interviews. I hope there will be more.
we need part 2!!!!!!!
It's out!
I’m Greek and I’ve heard a story about two brothers, one supporting Olympiakos, the other Panathinaikos. They had a game against each other, only one of the brothers attended it and his team lost. When he arrived home, he saw his brother sleeping peacefully, and all of a sudden, he started beating him up. His excuse was “I don’t know man, once I saw him there, I lost it”.
Lol
Was it you? It's ok.. we wont judge. 😅
@@D3monInsid3 haha no, I am AEK Athens, different team
I currenlty play in the 11th tier of english football. There is a team called clapham who we play against. This team had 1000 people show up to a game we played against. Kinda like a mini st pauli. The atomsphere, i thought felt like a champions league game / european league game
Edit: Claptan not Clapham
Man,what a feeling huh?
Unibond?
Was this the Clapton ultras?
@@zenokada2278 yes it was, i spelt it wrong.
for some strange reason (even though i know it's wrong) i kinda like that eastern-european fans are so "vivid". I mean.... who doesn't love tens of lit flares in an indoor arena :D ?
Why is it wrong? 😂 It's passion. Much better than "de_fence" fans in nba 😂
Just for the record, this is only in the US, Latin Americans and Europeans we share the same passion for the sport and we live it in a similar way, either if its Basketball or Soccer we are so passionate that some will risk it all for our club.
Being a Greek American this is fkn hilarious. 😂😂 11:42 had me dying 😂
The thing is this: NBA crowd go watch the game (or be entertained by it together with drinks, videos, fuzbol in the suites...), Europeans go live the game
In Europe we are passionate. In the US sport is just entertainment
In Europe you are stupid and broke and you worship players like I used to do before I move to USA. In USA , we don’t care about players , they play for our entartainment
@@McCalifornia in US, you are costumers, not fans. There's no home court adventage in NBA,its same if you play home or away.
@@user-ov6xm1zx7p dude I grew up in Greece, I don’t care about being a FAN to those shameful players and teams who only care about MONEY. You are probably 16 years old. My advice to you is F all those players and don’t even chant just worry about your own life and money . Those disgrace players ZERO care about you believe that
@@McCalifornia yeah i understand you. I am a basketball fan, but i know where the line ends. To stay outside the top of the ultra group because there is a lot of criminal there. Drugs, weapons, connection to police and that.
@@user-ov6xm1zx7p Yes great understanding. I was one of the most hardcore man cheering and going all the games like an idiot wasting my life and my family time. F all those playersThey never care about FANS and they never give back to community. It’s all about money
The atmosphere might be intimidating for the visiting team, but at the same time pushes the local team to win the game. Seriously now, which player don't wanna play in front of a crowd like that?
actualy it is rare to be some big fight vs players from crowd..and funny how Shaq ask are you comforbatle with crowd in NBa:)
Rivalry between Red Star and Partisan fro Belgrade comes from many things but even in the very start in late 1940s Partisan was sponsored by Military (even their stadium was known as Yugoslavian People's Army Stadium) and Red Star got the image of civilian team, sponsored by City and Police as well as citizens. Sponsorships and divide didn't last long but image stuck and things just rolled on from there.
oh please let's be honest .it's not always like that but yeah sometimes during classic rivals match the stadium goes full on football mode.
It is not always like that but it is great
Well the difference for Basketball is there are no athlete tracks between the crowd and the pitch but the crowd's the same :D