8 Times We Weaselled Our Way Out of a Fight Because We're Heroes
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- It's not often videogames reward our innate cowardice, but occasionally we're allowed to use our words instead of our fists/giant guns. Consider the times we weaselled our way out of a fight with the power of talking and subscribe: www.tinyurl.com/SubToOxbox
Our proudest moments in videogame heroism do not include that bit in The Witcher 3 when [SPOILER], the bit in Fallout New Vegas when [SPOILER] or the other time in Dragon Age Inquisition when [SPOILER]. And let's not forget the time we [SPOILER] in the original Deus Ex.
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Well, I think now we need a reverse video.
8 Instances in Which We Chose Murder Because Negotiating Is A Hassle and We Were Particularly Impatient That Day.
+Slug of Borg They'll get there. Particularly given how Mike plays we know he's played that option.
+Slug of Borg So ALL of a Mass Effect Renegade play through?
The Dark brotherhood storyline...
+Slug of Borg YES!
+Slug of Borg Thats literally me when I play video games. "Oh? You give up? You wanna negotiate? You have valuable information? Hmm.........NAAAAAH."
*shoots person in head*
"Sup, Legate Lanius. My arms are broken and I'm out of bullets; why don't we talk things out?'
I love being charismatic in NV
"Can't wait to test it on drunk people!"
Actually, that sounds hilarious...
let's test it
It was angry drunk people.
There was a system in Bully where you could get the ability talk your way out of fights by passing English classes.
+xXx Fioletowy i długi banan który przemierza Redtu-, znaczy, CZcams z Planety Teletubisiów xXx Talk your way out of fight or passing English classes??
+xXx Fioletowy i długi banan który przemierza Redtu-, znaczy, CZcams z Planety Teletubisiów xXx If only it*, I guess you can't talk your way out of a fight...
You mean exactly the OPPOSITE of real life. Good at English classes and you get beat up.
+PavelKahun I wonder if you actually understand what his nick means?
My name??
Speaking of Dragon Age: Inquisition what about the Empress' Ball Quest? Get enough approval from the court and you can confront the murderer Agatha Christie Style and have them arrested without having to deal with the infuriating boss fight with the waves of stealthed enemies.
I'd rather have the fight than speedrun that part.
Lanius isn't the first Fallout villain you can talk your way out of fighting. In the original Fallout, if you have 100% speech and charisma and you've gotten the autopsy report from the Brotherhood of Steel, you can convince the Master that his "Unity" plans are fruitless as all super mutants are sterile, causing him to kill himself and all his minions with a nuclear explosion. Much easier than trying to fight it.
Wow, I should replay that game to do that...
+John Reinke III You could do it with Colonel Autumn in Fallout 3 too
Agreed, fucking infinitely spawning mutants ;-;
Anarky17 and general autumn from 3
you dont need to have a high speech check. you just need the report. you need to get what the master wants to do and then you can just tell him that his work may be well intentioned but ultimately fraught and worthless because all his children are sterile..
so what he wanted to achieve is impossible, so he stops
I like how this was released a month after Undertale, i. e., an RPG where you can talk your way out of EVERY battle.
I would be very happy to get an hd rerelease of Vampire the masquerade.
+Berelore I second that!
One can only hope
A remake was in the making but then some asshat that owned some rights had it shut down...
Fregler awe :(
World of Darkness MMORPG would be too awesome to get irl but srsly it would be absolutely awesome.
a great warrior wins battles, the superior warrior prevents them if he can.
not in video games, lad.
Your a coward
@@wendigo1619 ...and alive while the dumb hero ended up dead.
@@vladdracul5072 i survived more than most people wether on foreign soil or my own backyard, i always chose fight over flight
@@wendigo1619 Guess it was your choice, or was it?
It reflects poorly on our society that choosing non-violence is considered cowardly.
In Planescape: Torment you can actually convince the final boss to surrender. In fact, there's only 2-3 fights in the entire game that are mandatory, since the game generally encourages you to take a diplomatic approach to situations.
And that is one of the MANY reasons why Planescape: Torment is the best game ever.
for me it is as often as possible in all fallout games.
Let's be honest, it is sooooooooo satisfying to talk your way out of a tough fight, it makes me feel like a charismatic god, if only i was like that irl
I did that in a hard core run of New Vegas, all speech and charisma. Just cheesed on through.
+Dust the worst part about doing that though is when all of a sudden your at a gunner camp with 3 assaultrons and a mr gutsy plus 5 gunners, then you are completely screwed
Dragon Age is full of things like this.
Flemeth's grimoire, werewolves/elves, desire demons who've posessed innocent little boys...
Even though I literally died to Flemeth like, 16 times, I persevered, and finally succeeded... and it cost me all my health potions.
Totally worth. I saved Morrigan bae!
...except Flemeth just ends up surviving for no reason as stated in the Witch Hunt DLC.
So all that dragon-killing effort was in vain.
*GOD DAMMIT.*
@@masterblaster2678 Yeah it's more of a role-playing choice than anything else since the result is always the same.
Pre-Video Guess, bluffing Lanius into fucking off with 100 speech
in the vampire the masquerade ending, i just imagine the MC is Dio from JoJo's bizarre adventure, and hell get out in like 100 years and be even more badass.
+ssgsorrels YOU WERE EXPECTING A VAMPIRE
_BUT IT WAS ME, DIO!_
+Shooterguy15 Isn't Dio a vampire?
Captain Vermillion yes he is. But anything for a meme, apparently
+ssgsorrels Oh my god, Cthulu monster vs The World....Fuck, now I'm hyped.
damn, I really should finish this series to avoid spoilers. I'm at the pillar men atm.
But why talk your way out of a fight when you can punch/stab/shoot/magic to death the thing you're trying to talk out of a fight with?
+Sister and the fun in that is..?
+Da' Melon Sometimes the game will reward players for being more pacifistic by granting access to certain rewards that can only be accessed through specific dialogue. Or in some RPG's, like Fallout 3 for example, you can get more experience points by using unique dialogue options.
It all depends on the game. If there is no bonus for opting out of a fight, reload the checkpoint, then slaughter everything.
Because the thing you're punching/stabbing/shooting/magicking to death is basically god, and can literally stomp you out like you're a very small fire.
Like, not even a small fire. A few embers. A single spark. A flea's cigarette bud.
+Da' Melon Because just murdering your problem is the unintelligent solution.
+LordKame Guru well good thing im stupid
Have y'all played as Malkavian in Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines? It's a really good time. You could be a persuasive Malk, which is epic, or have skill points in everything except persuasion skills, and it's still fan-fucking-tastic. So. Many. Lols.
Best. Clan. Ever.
I couldn’t understand shit cuz it was my first playthrough
You _have to_ play as a moon-mad childe of Malkav as your last playthrough. You won't get any of the in-jokes without going through the story once with another clan, and the whole "knowing already how the story plays out" works into the Malkavian mindscape.
This is not fucking cowardness! This is the style of playing!
Fallout 1 let you talk your way out of the battle with the final boss. If you convince The Master that the super mutants he was trying to convert all human life into were actually sterile (using forensic data gathered by the Brotherhood of Steel) he realizes his entire plan was madness and destroys his headquarters... WIN!
...and then you proceed to try to leave the compound, and immediately get killed by the extremely potent series of traps set up just outside the area the conversation is held in.
I cant believe I weaseled my entire way out of the Saren bossfight on my first ever runthrough in the mass effect series going in with absolutely no knowledge of what to do ever
Honstly for the Dragon Age Inquisition post you should've gone with how you can avoid the boss battle against Grand Dutchess Florianne at the Winter Palace.
Although I suppose Imshael is a harder battle...
Also you could've gone with siding with the Dragon cult or gone along with Flemeth's deal about her grimoire, both found in Origins.
I remember my first week of WoW. I rolled a human warlock and wandered a little too far from the starting area. I was chased by some unspeakable horror for many miles, right into a party of level 1 players who agroed the beast. I escaped. They didn't. Good times.
Letho in The Witcher 2, aka the last boss in the game.
Humberto Urdiales With that and the werewolf it really fits Geralt's character more than killing does. Geralt had a similar choice in The Witcher wrt another werewolf.
Am I just weird that I prefer diplomatic options?
no
Not at all.
Yes your wierd for not being a complete savage and killing everything in sight with no mercy.
nope, just becuase i both, spared the beast from the east, but i used oh baby on his shiny head, does not mean you are odd
66 Roses
No. That means your pacifistic for the most part. Unless I'm faced with treason or something really abhorrent, I'll be a pacifistic player.
In steamworks Arcanum Magick Obscura. I think I managed to go the entire game without fighting....or, at least, very little of it.
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines was an amazing game.
But damn did it have shitty boss fights and shittier endings.
I still remember the best one of these I had was on PC in Baldur's Gate 2, where you get to talk to a Beholder guarding a crate with important stuff. Instead of starting normal hardcore boss-fight, he starts talking to you, and if you talk to him, you convince him that the person who summoned him really didn't want him to defend what's in the crate, but the crate itself, so he totally doesn't mind you opening the crate to look and, once you've emptied the crate, he decides there's not point guarding it any more and goes home. You even get to meet him again in the expansion and... so much joy...
"Jane Douglas Laughing With Water" is my new favorite thing.
Dampierre is the most impressive of all. Convincing someone to abandon the fight... in a fighting game!
That fight in Dragon Age: Inquisition was easy.
You know, I've actually NEVER fought Saren at the end of ME1. I've always made it a point to max out either Paragon or Renegade, as I always feel the "best" choice is always the one you worked hardest for. The fact that you still have to fight off "Reaper Meat-puppet" Saren afterward makes me feel like it was still a fight. Unlike when I accidentally negotiated Legate Lanius off at the end of New Vegas. Heh, whoops. :P
+DeathKhan Same, lol. I have a tendency to talk my way out of fights if I can in games that have speech/charm/morality points.
You can get out of the first boss of Cave Story. He asks if you're "sure you want to take him on with that pea shooter?" Answer no, and he's just like "ok," and flies off.
Aww, no Agronak gro-Malok, a.k.a the Grey Prince from Oblivion?
+Roanne Rhinnos That ones a bit of a hassle either way.
+Michael Edmunds After the first time I always fought him the hardway. I felt bad killing a man who wanted to commit elaborate suicide
***** I always just use him as my ticket into the Dark Brotherhood, particularly since Crowhaven is good place to become a vampire.
It was easy because you were level 2.
+Michael Edmunds Yay level scaling! Stuff like that is the reason mods like Requiem exist.
And there's every encounter in Skyrim which is done by shouting the opponent off of a cliff or mountain
Oh come on! The "Talk to get out of fights" mechanic is a Bioware staple! It's been with us all the way since Baldur's Gate... I think? I know Kotor has quite a few of them, anyway. Yay cowardly persuasion!
Chose the absolute worst ending for VTMB... How can you trust that wench? I learned that lesson well in SWTOR- never trust the polite ones...
ikr, i just killed them both every time i finished the game
I was just going to post this. Never have I thought of trusting the Kuey Jin
She's hot though :(
But... I'm polite... :'(
I want a T-shirt which says "a hideo kojima fan"
+Aniket Gidye I NEED IT
+Aniket Gidye Or maybe a Hideo Kojima Production :)
ilyriandevil u alright?
GOD that fucking bird-borg was so annoying!
And yes! i chose the virgins too, because on my second run my Ink was a pretty sassy ladyelf, and Cass was being mean...
***** well Imshael is one of the four most powerful demons in existance... Two if you played origins and 2 well. Killing him is not a matter of religion, is a matter of saving the world more or less.
qt
Edoardo Prevelato true. Fair point. But virgins.
You know, I don't even own an XBox (or any console, for that matter); but your channel is my favorite game/gaming channel on CZcams. I absolutely adore your videos and numerical listings of .
Kudos, and keep up the excellently snarky and humorous work!
I'm playing Witcher 3 on the difficulty just below death march (I forgot what it's called) I have attempted Wild at Heart 15+ times. I will GLADLY take not having to fight that werewolf a second time
U jus gotta come back when ur a higher level its unbalenced at this point in game. Hell when i played on normal when the game first released i had that problem. Gaisn too much health
The Possession quest in Witcher 3. Fight the hym or put a baby in an oven to trick the hym. I wonder what Mike would choose.
The best part about asking Imshael for virgins is that, if Cole happens to be in your party, Imshael will comment that he does have a virgin, but you probably wouldn't want them. Poor Cole xD
Also, reading these comments makes me feel like a shitty player for finding Imshael really difficult and going for the virgins option instead (and even worse when my second play through defeated him with ease. Avoided him since.)
Surprised you guys didn't do the final boss fight in The Witcher 2. If you let him Letho walk, he even gives you a side-quest in the third game!
I want to know where was my army of soldier robots when it came time to fight Legate Lanius. They stroll up to the party just late enough to intimidate the NCR, but not help with horrible boss fight. There's a video idea, times your "allies" show up just late enough to not be useful.
"I can't wait to test it on angry drunk people!"-Jane 2015
I must say that they really missed the very first combat with a human enemy in Fallout 2
I clicked on this video thinking purely of Legate Lanius. I just recently discovered this channel, and am glad I did. It has quickly become my favorite gaming channel. Thanks to you all
Nooooo you absolutely forgot THE very best weaselling out ever. Takes suuper intelligence, super speech and charisma, but in Arcanum you can actually talk the ultimate bad guy, Kerghan, out of destroying the whole world. And it gives you the best ending stills in the end.
I laughed so hard when I heard my Inquisitor say " I want to be showered with virgins"
Imshael wasn't hard (at least not harder than some others). In my playthrough he got stuck and my party rekt him >.> Actually, Inquisition enemy AI isn't very good, now that I think of it.
"Brave Sir Robin ran away, bravely ran away, away"
Sir Robin is my very favorite after "Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Film".
great vid as always
Ming-Xiao was extremely easy, finished her right away during my first playthrough, just spam the firegun and you will be fine... Though I cannot believe anyone would really want to side with the Kuei-Jin
What about Running Away in Pokemon?
Wait, Andy's T-Shirt has 4 holes, Kojima is 1 word 4-1=3 CHAPTER 3 CONFIRMED!!!11ONE!!
+Jimmotep how bad must a game be if so many people expect a magic update that will fix everything that is never gonna happened (jk i love mgs)
Hahaha Best line ever! Whoever wrote Andy's lines deserves a flying double high-five.
The.Whole.UNDERTALE.Game.
+Comrade Necron unless you are doing the genocide route
+alejandra areco Even then, in the Genocide route you're purposely getting into fights and weaseling your way out of one ruins it. So, no, the game doesn't count.
No!!! The best talk out of a fight in DA inquisition is...
Letting Morrigan use the spirit pool. If she gets in instead of the inquisitor, it avoids the fight with her mom later on. You know...all that weirdness of her mom being a goddess! Anyway, she doesn't turn into the dragon, the game goes on, and happy day!
I like diplomatic persuasive endings, not because I get to maybe skip boss fights, but because it makes me feel like a hero instead of just killing everything for fun... And it proves that battles can be won with words as well, limiting bloodshed, something that can't be bad, right?
I love these videos!
What about Flemeth in Dragon Age Origins ?? you don't even need persuading skills
Dont you tell me to subscribe lady... your not my real Dad!
YOUR NOT MY SUPERVISOR!!!
In Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark, if you were clever enough to learn the final boss's true name, you could magically command him to go away and skip the final battle entirely.
Wow! Love the new outro!
"Mano a wolfo". Considering "mano a mano" means hand to hand, that made me sigh a little. Good video though :v
Yeah but he could just mean hand to wolf
+Eminemgodful WOLFJOB!
+freakyskull516 that's freaky, freakyskull
+Eminemgodful comes with the madness. . .
+Sheogorath Gaming do i have to say it again?
I didn't know this was a thing to do to bosses 😂
+Isaias Garza There are few things more satisfying than convincing the final boss to kill himself.... XD
I just want to say, that in the dozen or so play-through I have on Mass Effect, that I have never actually battled Saren on the Citadel (first battle). He always shoots himself first lol.
Flight of the Amazon queen was one of my favorite things to play and watch my dad play when I was younger! I felt like me and my dad were the only people who knew about the game
I died 5 times trying to kill that wear-wolf before i skipped the fight
I tried it first when I was level 5, then I skipped it until I was level 30
+JeDk Videos just shut up, your try to act hard oh yeah who are u trying to impress your mom
+JeDk Videos oh now your trying to sound responsible
+John Murtagh Plot twisit HE's the mom
i killed him in level 6. with bombs and fire i refuse to skip the fight
Under tale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it's people like you that make me want to cut myself, people who obsess over something too much.
Loved the ending: "Those are eight times when we chose to use our BRAINS, instead of our brawn. Or at least our COWARDICE, instead of our brawn." XD
Jane cannot keep a straight face in any single OX video, i love it!!
I know it's an indi game... BUT YOU DIDN'T DO UNDERTALE?!?!?!
I KNOW RIGHT tho this probably came out b4 undertale
Undertale most likely wouldn't count in this because it's in a way hinted to try. Well not exactly hinted it's literally shoved and rubbed in your face. It's literally included in the game mechanic, to talk it out to avoid confrontation in almost all battles (yes yes Undine fight but that doesn't count when you basically have to complete her quest much like sans and all others) it's basically the same effect they did in mass effect and dragon age complete potential friends quests and they may not brutally murder you or sacrifice you or turn on you. It's nothing new but in the games they shows these are examples of basically weasling your way out of a situation, especially if it's a very tough battle in a game. In Undertale you still have to fight in the end that life bar does go down even when you're doing a pacifist run for Asriel because your weapon is words and what not. So it wouldn't count because it's just how you end a game with speaking is included while these other games they mentioned still involved mass amounts of fighting and if you can just have a break on one boss like talking to them to avoid a fight or taking a deal or going around finding something to stop them or even weakening them people will do it.
Where is every single fight in Undertale?
That Legate at the end of New Vegas was the most insane difficulty spike i've ever dealt with. I went from playing on hard to save-scumming on easy for that one fight.
Combat in Mass Effect was great. Great in that you could load your weapon with mods that overheated it for massive damage gains. Nothing like overloading a gun with one shot and killing a Geth prime in one shot. :D
then theres undertale lol
Hey I liked Mass Effect's combat. How rude.
I have a PlayStation but I still watch you guys cause you're just.. Awesome.
In Undertale, you can talk your way out of almost any fight and don't have to kill a single thing. In fact, that's the happy ending: not killing anything and making friends with everyone.
In the "In my Time of Need" quest for Elder Scrolls V, you can weasel out of the fight twice. When you agree to help the redguard woman, you go out and find her pursuers. They give you a choice. Fight all 15 of them at once, or agree to let bring the woman to them. If you do that, it takes very little effort to lead her outside the city and just let the lead assassin do his job. Or you could do what I did. Agree to help the assassin, and then murder him in a 1v1 fight rather than the 1v15. Cowardice! Now even stormcloaks can do it!
Ok. Mike's little giggle is actually adorable
i like this channel those 3 really give off/make me feel positive.
My favorite instance is in Planescape: Torment. If you're intelligent enough to think of it and charismatic enough to be convincing, you can make your own Mortality that has unbound itself from you bind back to you out of fear of being killed. It's the final boss fight and it takes incredible amounts of forethought, preparation and skill to beat. Or just enough points in Cha and Int.
Hilarious finish. I only had a PSP for a time. I'm surprised I hadn't heard of a Soul Caliber game on PSP. It must have come out after I had completely given up on it.
My favorite's in Cave Story. Sure it's simple, but when Balrog asks if you're ready to fight, if you just say No, he'll happily hop away
Love Mike's Emmett Brown shirt. That's cool :)
If there is one thing I learned from fallout it is that the fatman fixes every boss battle
I remember you can do a little quest for the Grey Prince in Oblivion. It's like talking your way out of a fight!
I was actually buzzing when I found out you could talk Saren to death, it took my second playthrough though
That In the air tonight bit was hilarious
For that multi-stage demon fight in Inquisition, I didn't know you could talk your way out of it. Therefore, Varric, Cole, Cassandra, and my rouge fought in a hideous maelstrom of constant revives and dodge-rollings.
Yay for people who played Flight of the Amazon Queen! Also I only now got the 'Joe King' pun...
"Consider this, a 200+ pound gorilla who would happily rip your arms off and play a drum solo of in the air tonight with them" *Shows the old cadbury add of the gorilla and i proceed to get nostalgic and laugh*
In Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, you could talk or think your way out of almost every fight. Persuade the drunks to leave you alone, feed the Rancor a grenade, use the computers to blow up terminals or gas various rooms, make a peace treaty with the sand people, the list goes on and on.
I remember in "Leather Goddesses of Phobos" the only way to get past this assassin without dying WAS by not fighting him. You had to give him your sword and he kills himself with it because he "realises" you're the hero and can't beat you
the little giggle at 10:13
10/10 would recommend
Reminds me of the Temple of Trials in Fallout 2, where you could just as easily talk your way out of the final trial - fight. Because intelligence and speech are the skills you go for in a post-apo wasteland. And guns.
But who knew you'll start in a tribal village with no guns?
Granny Rags in Dishonored. You can skip probably the hardest (at least most complex) fight in the game by agreeing to chop up Slack Jaw and help her cook him. She's also totally cool with you looting her house as well, so there's literally no reason to not help Granny Rags.
Nice
Could`ve added also choice in the Fallaut NV Old World Blues DLC in the end :)