Can a New Dodge Durango V6 Handle This Towing Job? Loaded and Empty MPG Review
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This guy makes some of the best TFL videos.
basically yes
I agree
I love my Durango, we have a 2014 with the 8 speed and 3.6L v6 and we regularly get 22mpg in mixed driving. But highway I usually average 24-25mpg. Also from Central PA to the outer banks I was able to drive 600+ miles on a single tank without stopping at all for gas. That trip we averaged 26.2mpg with the kiddos and luggage for vacation. Bought it with 42k miles and now we are rolling over 100k miles without a single issue at all, knock on wood!
That's great, mid 20's for fuel economy in a vehicle for hauling people and cargo is pretty decent...combined with moving a box on wheels LOL. The Durango to me is a great way to go up from the Grand Cherokee which just lacks that 3rd row that many people really need.
Is it awd?
Durango made me fall
In with my car
My '11 with the 3.6 and the basic 5 speed transmission gets 24-25 on the highway. I have noticed that even a small amount of wind really effects those numbers though. There could have easily been a crosswind that day dropping those numbers.
I got same SUV 2014 only broken AC compressor.
I’ve gotten multiple vehicles stuck on my property. So I feel your pain especially being by yourself trying to get out. It does make for great content!
Isn't this the same guy who got stuck in the pickup? These videos are great. 😂
We tow a 32ft travel trailer at 6200# tow capacity on our v6 sxt. It gets about 13mpg at 55mph and 10mpg at 70mph. Will hold 55mph on a 6% grade. Its not fast but does a great job for what it is. The AWD in the snow has been awesome, never been stuck even in deep powder.
Good to know. Your comment answers the reason I’m watching this video. Lol. I’m looking at that exact trim for a 2020. Does it have a tow/haul button? I’ve heard they don’t
@@mminniear984 No tow/haul button and I added a trailer Brake controller (genuinely required on this size load). Also, you will need a load leveling hitch.
k thanks. Do you just drive in regular drive mode, or do you drive in sport. In my Ford I’m supposed to use sport mode when pulling a trailer. I’m wonderful that works for dodge as well
Sxt with factory tow package or did you upgrade engine cooling?
No sport mode, I might switch out of the eco mode so it isnt up shifting as much. It's just the factory tow package which I believe adds a trans cooler.
Would like to see a Test at 6500 lbs with the Standard V8
the penta star v6 is a pretty good engine I pull on my unlimited my 2 ATV and it does just fine. Works a bit harder but does the job well and not huge it to mpg's. Great video bud
2017 Durango SXT fleet. Just hit 100k. All around great vehicle. Average 21-22. Best ever was 27.5 mpg on lower speed highway run with cruise. Excited for my new 2020 fleet hopefully coming end of August!
This is a superb video. Perfect real life situation. Thank you.
Thx, man. Looks good. Good luck!
Nice car. Had a 2WD GT rental Durango to drive around LA and to Las Vegas. The MPG was great when the speed was below 70 mph, about 25 mpg.
I recently hit a deer with my vehicle and was given a 2019 Durango GT as my rental for a week. The V6 was very responsive and sufficient to get around the rolling hills and mountains of Pennsylvania. The Durango is a sharp looking vehicle, and it was fun to drive. The biggest complaint I had was the heated seat and steering wheel controls being in the audio unit; it was very distracting to adjust while driving.
They changed those controls to have buttons, as well as radio ...after 2109.
Drove a 2019 with the 5.7 the other day and the trailer brake control was a cool suprise. Overall it's a great family hauler.
Just about any vehicle with four doors could be considered a “family hauler”
Ben Fletcher Honda Fit?
2019 and surprise trailer brake control GTFO here
Thanks for this video even if its more boring for you not having the high end model I appreciate this video because I'm in search of one and trying to learn the real fuel economy and towing everything that video has it all thanks again!!!
This why I like TFL real world reviews in testing cars n trucks. We don’t get Durango in Australia but would be happy have V6 especially if cheap run n service. Steve like vid of Easter Jeep concepts can’t wait to see what TFL do with Jeep Comanche.
Well done,a great review thanks.
Sweet beard. I don't know how anyone lives where it snows like that, seems like a lot of work.
It's your fault you weren't getting 25mpg. The EPA only tests up to 65mph(104kph). Wind resistance increases with the square of speed Wich means if you are going 10% faster you are experiencing 100% more drag 65mph(104kph)*1.1= 71.5mph(115kph). It's just a little speed but it makes a huge difference in fuel economy.
I have a 2016 durango and i get 28 mpg when i drive at 65 mph but when i drive at 85 mph i get 22 mpg i think is pretty good.
I’ve played with a bunch of rental ones and I can usually easily get good numbers. And I don’t care about fuel. I’m going 126 cruise.
“Which”
Derek Zielsdorf I was sitting there going....wait that doesn’t look right. Thanks for the confirmation.
Your numbers are off.10%increased speed is a little over 20% more drag. also in Canada we don't drive the posted speed limits. those are more of a suggestion on the highways. Most people do 10-20 over and that's just the slow lane. You go into the right lane and people are usually going 30-40 over. You drive 104 on the highway here and you are going to get run off the road, since most primary highways are 110KPH. cops wont pullyou over unless you are going 20 over the posted. (unless you are near a small town that covers that portion of highway. they will ticket you for doing 1 over) They are testing real world driving over what the manufactures do to get their numbers. Manufacturers get their numbers on a closed stretch of road with perfect conditions.
Good job! I would love to see the same MPG test with the 5.7L HEMI and see how much worse or the same it is to the Pentastar. Based on your numbers, they may not be that much different in the real world.
Just did 1500 miles in 2015 Durango limited AWD up and down the east coast of United States last week. V6 fully loaded with 3 adults and a ton of luggage (I could feel the weight). All highway, holding at about 75 mph had a constant 25 mpg. Truck has 41,000 miles. If I recall, mileage was worse when it was new??
Great video thank you!
Both straps on the toy are pulling backwards. Mr. Truck would say "One at least should pull forwards". I would love to know if you find that the EPA numbers are wrong on other brands. Its a definite theme with FCA products.
Ford is so lousy with EPA numbers, there's a class action lawsuits about it. I have an aunt that gets 15 mpg in her EcoBoost f150, and EPA says it should be closer to 20, 25% off the advertised amount. FCA seems to be just one example of real world/ EPA testing comparisons.
For driving 70+mph in temps around 35-40F, 21 mpg is respectable. You need warmer weather and slower speeds to hit 25 mpg.
Finally someone else gets it. In one of the other vids, TFL did a MPG test at like 25F or something LOL.
And going downhill all the way!
Remember that air resistance increase with the speed cubed, and most vehicles get a penalty above 110 km/h. Especially this barn door..
Do you always try to get something unstuck by chocking all 4 wheels with wood or bricks?
You had me almost pissing my pants. I got stuck a couple weeks ago in the snow...JKRR and winch...but still sucked. I like how your luck sucks but you suck it up and share it with us.
Blame it on the crappy tires.😊
yeah All seasons tires are not All terrain tires.
Would like to see the Durango towing 6500lbs up Appalachia or Rockies. Flat land towing is a lot easier and straighter. How does the engine and cooling system perform for long climbs especially in summer?
well 6200 is the max....so dont do that
How long did you spend on the bridge with the engine idling at Customs?
Nice video, i love Durango. Gas prices in Finland are 1.73 € per liter.
LMAO
"Stupid Durango" 6:54
Durango replies "DUH" dude.
I have a 2020 Durango GT AWD (same vehicle/year newer).
When I tow (single axle 6½X12 ft trailer/TEXTRON Prowler Pro 3 passenger UTV with windshield and full roof [more drag]) I get 11-12 mpg.
Combined (25K miles) is 21.4.
Highway (cruise and speed limit) 25-29 mpg depending on terrain. One trip from WI to TX averaged 26.8 mpg with no trailer but about 600 lb of interior cargo.
My normal driving city/highway percentage is ⅓ city/⅔ highway.
This is my 3rd Durango (a 2012, 2017 & 2020), all have had the V-6, and I have been pleased with each one.
Poor Durango needs some better tires for that snow. Plenty of grunt no grip tho. Had he had some good all terrains probably wouldn't have been stuck
You should have bought gas in the US. It would have been a lot cheaper.
I have a 2016 Durango SXT Blacktop package V6 2wd. I ave 23.5mpg. I routinely get between 28-30 mpg on the hwy to work and back. I have a K&N FIPK intake on it which helps it sound better and feels like it got a little more power.
Reviewer of the Year
Wind, elevation change, speed, driving habits and fuel/alcohol mix are all factors that affect overall mpg. A little over or under epa doesn't surprise.
U guys r the best
About to sell our junk 2014 Pathfinder for a newer Durango... Previously owned 2 older Durangos (2004 ST and 2004 Limited) and had zero major repairs past 125K miles... Although even I know not to try to tow on snow with summer tires.
We just bought a 18 DDRT with awd and that thing is awesome, I am embarrassed to admit we were considering a Pilot or Subaru Ascent, lol
Cold temperatures probably cost you a couple mpg.
Wanted to point out the in car audio is very scratchy. Otherwise great video
Rain increases both drag on the ground and the air density.
Love that SUV
It you TTY yyuu77
I have a 2017 Durango GT RWD, and was able to get about 27 on a trip from North Alabama to Upstate New York (actual upstate, like 30 minutes from Canada upstate). I do worry about it's towing capacity, since we asked for the towing package, but it doesn't appear to have a transmission cooler. Wondering how it'll handle pulling a 6200lb travel trailer for short 30-45 minute trips to the campground.
Try it again in June - August and it will do better. This weather and winter blend fuel dosen't help. Would have been interesting if you filled up on American fuel before coming back to see if there was a difference. My car usually gets better milage when I am on trips in the states on the US fuel.
Mod Everything, I always thought that. Glad it’s not just me. 👍
if you look at the Imperial MPG, it is actually 26.9 MPG
Good looking truck
I have a 2017 AWD Hemi Durango which I pull my 5500 pound loaded, 26 foot travel trailer, I usually get about 11mpg towing. Driving without towing, I get 22 to 24mpg on the highway.
Daytona 5.7 can say the same about a Grand Cherokee with the Hemi. So glad we went with the hemi.
@@jakenorden4556 Amen to that, the wife has a DDRT, her bad ass mommy car lol her previous car was a 16 Civic, she says I love how when I hit the gas it just hauls ass haha
I hit 22 mpg with my 2017 Ram 1500 4x4 quad cab Hemi on the highway. I was very happy.
What speed are you towing at? Our trailer is about the same weight at 32ft and we get 13mpg at 55mpg and 10mpg at 70mph. Towing with a 2014 sxt v6.
@@j4k3br4k3 That is at 65mpg, it drops to 10 at 70.
Hey Steven, it's not a deezel is it? 😂🤣 A deezel would've pulled it out.
I think you guys should compare the V6 and non SRT hemi V8 up the Ike back to back.
I have the very same vehicle and I normally drive 70MPH no more than 75MPH and I usually get 24 MPG. When i try harder I get 26 but I have to try to get good gas mileage
Have you always had that same MPG from new or did it take until after break-in to reach it? I wonder sometimes if it doesn’t take a few oil changes to get these newer engines into their peak MPG.
@@Funtimes670 well my Durango is fairly new, I have not done an oil change yet , i'm at 8000 miles. I hope I can get better milage after my first oil change
@@Funtimes670 I just posted my stats from last week (above) Worse when newer, better now.
@@Funtimes670 I have the R/T. MPG took about 2500 miles to peak out. I was really disappointed with the MPG for the first 2000 miles. Then, it improved. The V8 can now get 25 MPG freeway if I use cruise control and the road is flat. But normally, the highway MPG is closer to 22.5 and down near 21 when going up and down rolling terrain, such as The Merritt Parkway. That commenter higher up is wrong. You NEVER recover MPG on hilly terrain. You don't make up (on the way down) what fuel you consume lifting 5200 pounds, not unless your engine is regenerative. Durango does not currently offer a regenerative power plant.
is it like the orgiganal durango that can still fit inside your gagrge like the said all them years ago in the first commeriocal we saw.
If he had some better tires he would have went right through the snow... I've got wrangler duratracs on my 2017 and it gets around amazingly. Bout to throw a 2.5" lift and change the aspect ratio for my next round of tires to make em slightly taller. Should be great!
Nice That most likely is the only Midsize SUV with built In trailer brake controller I wonder if the Jeep Grand Cherokee has that too as they both kinda of the same SUV Tires with more grip may have helped & have a 3.0 Ecodiesel In Australia they used a lot of Toyota Land cruiser 70 series 4 5 v8 d-4d they just power over anything as Diesel has big tuque to move over things you can idle it up by using a switch on the dash take your feet off the pedal
I bet in warmer weather and summer gas, you'd be real close to epa numbers!
I love it video 💯💯💯💯👍
Driving at 120 kmh simply burns a lot more fuel . Mark me down as happy you survived your ordeal towing in the snow :) #LessonLearned
agreed, right lane hog. he's doing about 75mph (converted) which is much higher than the EPA tests at. typically you're looking at i think 55-65 with the new EPA tests.
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 True, that makes a big difference in mpg.
So this shows the reason to run some snow tires when you are trying to drive through snow LOL. Never driven the Yamaha Wolverine. I had a Rhino 700 several years ago and used it a couple times to move my 2100lb car trailer around, it did it but didn't like it LOL.
Looking at what to get. V6 or rt durango, already have a challenger rt. Just want it to tow my jet ski at the beach, because my challenger would get stuck.
I could use it for long range traverling as well. So mpg would also be considered
Test a ford edge V6 (2016 model if possible). I get 18.5l/100km
This Durango has apprx 7800kms/4500mi...Id be curious if the kms/mpg improves at 20K/12.5Mi.
Wow I hope so. My girlfriend towed a heavily loaded Uhaul trailer 3,000 miles with her Dodge Dakota with 2.5 liter four cylinder. Heavier than that load. And she did it three times!
Nice looking car...ought to be able to handle it handily! However, I think your estimation of the weight of the Wolverine is high....
If you look on Yamaha's website it indeed says the wet weight is 1586 pounds.
12.4 mpg pulling 50%+\- its capacity? Not bad. My dads Ram 1500 gets 10mpg doing half it’s capacity pulling his camper.
What fuel octane did u use? Mopar likes premium for top mpgs
Our 2018 Dodge MiniVan with similar engine got 26+ miles per gallon on the highway travelling on a 12 hour trip each way.
That was with 2 adults 3 kids and luggage and food for a week long trip.
I wonder what the difference is? Does the All wheel drive make that big a difference?
Yo I agree with Paul below. Got a good video voice and makes a good video. I have entertained getting a Durango. I want a slight used one maybe a2017. I like the pentastar. It’s done 100k miles in our 13 town and country. How is the highway ride and comfort like? Thx man
Paul said, "Take it up the Ike!"
I agree.
Nuff' said.
The Hemi Durango we have rides like a dream, rear shocks are self leveling so If you tow or max out payload it cancels out any squat
Ok so if your going 10-20 kph faster than the speed limit that might account for the fuel discrepancy. I know in my 2014 Sierra I can get 11-12L/100km at 90 kph, 12-14 L/100KM at 100 kph and around 14-15L/100km at 110 kph.
It wouldn't have got stuck if you'd had Manley tires on it
Manley makes tires? i knew they made valvetrain components ....
Our 2014 Durango averages 24-25 on the highway, I’ve gotten 28 on a trip once
How fast were you going? 55?
The rt has a bit more towing power so I think fca is banking on the 5.7
260 ft lb is plenty of power for small trailer towing. Remember these are not racecars they are not engineered for speed but for light duty hauling.
You gave me a great laugh
Life in Canada. If you haven’t got a vehicle and trailer stuck in the snow are you even really a Canadian? When I bought my 2011 F150 the day I got to pick it up we got a huge dump of snow in Calgary. Was the end of March so it was a really wet and heavy snow and we got like a foot or more. I got my old truck stuck in the ally. (2W drive long box extended cab 1999 f250) so I just left it there grabbed the new truck and me and my neighbor took turns trying to pull out the super duty out. Was a good test between an f150 with the 5L and a Toyota Tundra TRD pro. The ford won by the way lol. Granted I had brand new AT tires and his were about half worn MT’s. Was fun though.
That may be true but his first option to pull the trailer and the truck backwards was nothing but Polish!
Best ever
I would have tried just removing the Woverine and tried to get the truck out with the trailer still hitched. I would think that would work.
I’ve actually gotten that great mileage with the Durango rental cars. I’ve taken many road trips for work all across Alberta. 8.9 l/100 km. And that’s cursing at 126km/h. Traffic must have messed you up
Heh you’ve got serious road rage if you’re still using curses at 126km/h!
wet conditions lowers your mpg more than you think. You burn more fuel cause there is less traction for your tires hence your engine has to work harder.
What kind of tires did you have should’ve went with Goodyear
Iv got an jeep Grand Cherokee with this engine. I get 21 combined in the winter and 23 in the summer. If I stay under 65 on the hyw I get 25-28 MPG but anything over 65 It's back down to 23mpg
Well said, you lose a lot of mpg cruising at 70+ mph.
thats about what my 17 gets, love it. Wouldn't want another engine in the GC, plenty of power
Any issues with your Grand Cherokee? Still hanging onto my 98 Grand Cherokee, but the new ones are just out of my price range right now LOL, but like the looks and styling. Just kind of wonder how they are for mechanical issues after a few years.
@@wildbill23c My neighbor has one that I detail, GC Hemi Trailhawk, it is holding up nicely, it is a beast yet so comfortable, PS never get rid of your 98 GC!
@@wildbill23c My Jeep is a 14 trail rated Laredo E with almost 60K I bought it used at 36k It had been a lease vehicle that had been in an accident and repaired by Chrysler. I have been really happy with it thus far. It has good power, no problem towing. The only two complaints I have are definitely design flaws.
The first is the return to center electronic shift lever. Sure I have gotten used to it and it's not a problem now but it almost got me in trouble many times early on.
The second is the full factory skid plates, Their is a cutout behind the drivers front tire that catches all the gravel kicked up by that tire and it gets packed around the transmission and transfer case causing a horrible grinding noise and shaking of the vehicle, It usually takes a trip or two to the car wash laying under it cleaning it out. The worst part is it happens every time I take it on a gravel road.
Other than those two issues I have not had any problems with it.
The Durango weighs over 5000 pounds, has a V6 that dynos at 205 on a good day, it's amazing that you got as good a "fuel usage" number as you did. BTW, metric is worthless, as is the Canadian dollar ....
I have a 18 RT. Did you move your know to low when towing?
I meant knob.
i really like my 2005 durango v8 it has the power to cruise at 80 and still ready for more throttle to pass someone. i wonder how the v6 is at those speeds
same thing. it’s a beast
Not a problem, rocket ship man. Love it.
mpg should increase a little bit after engine break in.
Great video but I wonder if you went 70 or even 65 instead of 75mph you could maybe reach that 25.
i havea 2016 Durango sxt v6, and highway mileage is 28-30 mpg US gallon. 2wd might be the big difference.
WHAT YEAR IS THAT G/T BECOUSE IM LOOKING AT A R/T HOOD?
What type of gas do you use ?
Isn't the epa testing done driving only 100km/h not 110-120 km/h?
What's the weight of the trailer? This needs to be added to the weight of the load.
Fun review. Much enjoyed. But your comments about gas mileage are unfair due to the speed you drove.
120 KPH is nearly 75 MPH which is well above the EPA's speed when testing. The Durango presents a large cross-section into the wind. Wind resistance increases as the square of the velocity. That means wind resistance at 75 MPH is 33% higher than at 65 MPH. So MPG goes down quickly as your speed increases.
I have the R/T model with the 5.7 Hemi. When doing legit MPG tests (using adaptive cruise control) I can obtain 23.5-24.0 MPG at 65 MPH and can get better than 27 MPG at a steady 60 MPH on flat highway with ECO activated. Of course, hilly freeways (Pennsy Tpk, Merritt Parkway) MPG worsens because you never recover (on the way downhill) what gas you use going uphill. But on flat highways, Durango can have respectable fuel economy if you drive it at 105 KPH.
I have a 2017 dodge gt awd, I haul a 24 foot wakeboarding boat, weighs in loaded at 5900lbs.. and it does it very well surprisingly. Tows better than my 2012 1500 ram.
Good to hear. I just have a car I want to haul with mine and also my side by side. I'm excited to give it a try next week.
I wish you would have did American measurements to very good video 👍 👍😎
HEMI ! It’s a no brainer. MPG is poor on V6.
Not nearly as poor as it would be with the Hemi. Both EPA and Fuelly (what people are actually getting in real-world MPG) shows 3.6V6 getting 3-4 MPG more than Hemi across the board. That's a huge difference.
N Pooch I got just as good, if not better mpg out of my hemi, then a v6!
And Car and Driver did a 200 mile test, and got 25 mpg out of the v8, vs 22 from the v6. This was at 75mph in the same state (MI)(121 kph, or about what he was doing).
@@Nemofishman That's the same Car and Driver whose Hemi averaged 16MPG vs their V-6's 19MPG and recommends the V-6 "which is more fuel efficient" over the Hemi. One aberrant highway test doesn't mean its the best when all of the other numbers show the Hemi drinks like it's got a hole in the tank. The accepted (and proven) average is that you'll do 3-4 MPG better average with the V-6. Real-world numbers seem to show the same for the Ram 1500 (with same V-6 vs Hemi).
I have the same vehicle 2wd though. I get 24 mpg highway and that's with me trying, EPA is a joke they probably get 25 mpg at 65 MPH
Didn't know that 55mph equates to 100-120Kph... lol. EPA doesn't test em at anything over 55mph. so 22mpg wouldn't be too bad. Compared to my truck, I'd take 22 in a heartbeat.
lol...the EPA doesn't test them at all, lol...wait, why are we laughing? the manufacturer submits to the EPA what they think the vehicle gets and its up to each individual manufacturer to decide what method is best for determining fuel consumption...its been that way for more than two decades but dont take a youtuber comment for gospel, look it up...its on the EPA's web site
@@philtripe I agree. The EPA can and does pick vehicles to test though. They just don't do everyone.
😅🤣😂awesome review !
I have a Chrysler 300s with the awd system, below 40° it was awd, above 40° it switches to rwd, I wonder if the Durango has the same system which would be why your fuel economy was not as good as the epa, please try it in warm dry conditions.
Or because he was passing everybody on the road. If he ran with the flow of traffic he probably would have hit the EPA number.
the 300 is mainly a rwd bias drivetrain.the only time awd kicks in if the traction module tell the computer there are slippery conditions causing the power to be redirected to the front tires. The Durango is a either RWD or AWD drivetrain it does not share the same Charger,Challenger,300 GT drivetrain components.
@@wmc128 it actually tells me when it's in awd or rwd..., and the fuel mileage is different, obviously better when in rwd, it's a 2016 with 3.6 v6
You was probably driving over 2,000 rpms most of the way. How you drive makes a huge difference on fuel efficiency.
the bricks and wood were actually making you more stuck..... the best thing to use in those situations in actually cardboard.
It also depends on your speed also