The Ultimate Tool for Louder Mixes (Without Losing Punch)
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- čas přidán 19. 04. 2022
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For years I simply could not achieve modern loudness without completely destroying my mixes with limiting…
Until a mentor told me how to do it. And now, I'm sharing it here with you.
In this video you’ll see:
- The ‘normal’ way for getting loudness that makes your mixes suck
- How to do it without sacrificing any impact or punch
- Examples of where you’d use clipping in a mix
- A new plugin that makes clipping simple, easy and satisfying
☛ Music in this video - Jevani Sanders / ritoruborazaofficial - Hudba
BSA Clipper is available now. Check it out here ---> blacksaltaudio.com/clipper/ 14-day trial available!
Great info.
For all Reaper-Users: give JS Event Horizon Clipper. Works kind of similar, except for the lack of a fancy interface :)
...and for everyone else: Event Horizon in Reaper was made by the guy who makes Stillwell Plugins. He has a plugin called Stillwell Event Horizon (wonder where they got that name?) with a great interface and exactly the same clipping algorithm. It's awesome!
@@reddotrecording I wonder if more expensive clippers like Flatline or others are any better than Event Horizon?
@@insertanynameyouwant5311 Hard to say. I can hear JST clip being different than Event Horizon. Pro L2 has a clipping mode that I haven't used (so it could be tested). Kush Audio's Omega Twk is a saturation/clipper and I use it sometimes to clip special effect stuff like impacts. It sounds different than the other two.
So I'm not sure if price is correlated to effectiveness in any way. But between the clipping options I have in Reaper, JST Clip, and Kush Twk I feel pretty solid. A few folks have recommended Flatline to me saying it's good. I don't need another clipper.
If I had to buy a clipping plugin today without demoing anything I'd get the Boz Digital Labs Big Clipper. The other Boz plugins I have are all super awesome and an absolutely killer price. They're worth way more than he's charging and they always sound great.
@@reddotrecording I've only tried flatline, and it can be "nasty" sounding or too noticeable even on a ~3dB of clipping. I don't know if that's just the way clippers go but the one in this video seems "cleaner". The shape knob on flatline can resolve the issue somewhat, but it felt a bit weird that a mastering focused clipper would be so un-transparent so easily
@@escalator9734 Interesting! I sometimes really like when I can hear a plugin breaking. It's like: "here's the edge of where we stop sounding good...don't mess it up!" Softube's Console 1 plugin American Class A is that way, too. The drive/saturation is really great sounding but when you push it too far you INSTANTLY know it.
3db of clipping isn't a small amount either. I really try not to do that much all at once. I don't ever really like the sound of it. I typically clip and compress in a few spots all over and on a lot of different sources in track. My thinking is if I shave a little of the big peak off then compress a little to bring back some of that transient shape only for it to hit a little clipping and a little compression and some limiting and some more clipping, etc. I can - by the end of the whole process - have a pretty loud master that doesn't sound like it's been demolished by loudness maximizing efforts.
You're a godsend for indie home artists. Each video I've seen so far has been a much needed source of answers for my mixes.
You and me both!
Literally 30 minutes after trying the free trial for this plug-in I can’t imagine life without it, thank you Jordan for this and all your teachings 🙏🏾 a couple years ago I wouldn’t have imagined getting this far
To start, I never bother to comment, I just don’t. But I just found your channel and in the last few days you have cleared up several issues for me. (I’m about 1-2 years into learning how to mix). We all know that there are a million different videos from a million different people with a million different mixing tips but yours are very clear and concise. Thank you!!!!!
It sounds awesome, really love that energy/aggressive character that it adds to the drums.
I use gclip on my drum busses and on my master right before a limiter. It was a game changer for me.
I started using clipping last year, I make electronic music and it's made such a huge difference, I really wish I had learned this years ago.
Extremely clear and no nonsense explanations. Thank you. Wish I would have found your channel sooner. Keep it up! You're helping a lot.
I just tried this out, you have a very fine plugin, it's quite amazing what it does, especially on drums! Thank you :)
Really appreciate the clear and straightforward explanation (referring to your experience helps to clarify too). This is great tip...have been using a limiter up till now.
I've not found any videos so far that explain this topic in such detail. Its like people don't want you to know. Great video - thanks!
Thanks a lot! purchased and it works very well! no complicated knobs and tweaking required:) easy to use and certainly made a difference when I applied in my final mix.
I really like how you spoke about not using red lights when designing the clipper with your team. I think that's honestly a refreshing take. Stoked to grab this plugin.
Such a great video AND plugin! Thanks for making it :)
I remember 4 years ago, listening to my first mixes (they were the definition of "horrible") and watching Jordan's videos. Nowadays I'm so fucking proud of how I mix and I'd say at least 50% of it is thank to this guy!
Love it. My OCD thanks you for not making the lights red. Option-c in Pro Tools has become a twitch I can’t get rid of. 😂
THANK YOU FOR THIS LITTLE BIT OF ADVICE IDK HOW I NEVER CAME ACROSS THIS BEFORE BUT IT'S INCREDIBLE
So far you are the best channel for tips and lessons to mixing engineering.congratulations and well done for your job!
Looking forward your other plugins are so simply nice.
Newfangled saturate is a pretty great clipper. You can really push it hard without it destroying your mix. It’s also included in Elevate which is a great mastering limiter.
Very good explanation as always! Thank you!
This video right here. Super helpful. This adds a whole new level of confidence to making music and I like how you clearly defined the difference between just squashing everything with a limiter vs trimming the unwanted information with a softclipper and keeping the integrity of the track and even adding energy to it, not taking energy away. Thank you!!! I'm gonna check your softclipper out👍
Thanks dude! You'll love it!
Thanks Jordan. Another fine video that is very helpful!
Best plugin commercial. Have to get it!! Love your videos ❤
Excellent demo. I've never been in a pro mix situation, just building a home studio with the Studio One DAW. I learned pretty quick limiting alone wasn't cutting it. I'm not certain who did a tutorial about a clipper into a limiter on the 2 bus, but it changed the end result greatly. It's not for everyone though.
Checking your plug-ins out. It sounds, works, and looks great.
Wow.. I've struggled with this for years. Just clipped everything and my track sounds almost twice as loud. Thanks HCMS!
Thanks JV, love this share
Thank you!! very helpful, really help me which I was also ways troubled, simple loud and clear.👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Dude. So helpful. Thank you. Can’t wait for the plug-in to come out already 😭
I work in dance muisic and realised this clipping business after watching the amazing series by Baphometrix. I can't reccommend this series enough. Massive detail on how to do this right. 22 episodes and about 35 hours. But it's a gamer changer. So if any of your subscribers want to see how this is done in huge in depth detail then this will show them. Kazrog clipper is one of the simplest to use and has a wave form showing you the clipped peaks. If i was going to use BSA clipper i would have to use an ocilliscope to see what's going on.
Been using Limiter No6 for clipping for ages, more recently started using the clipper in iZotope's Maximizer as well.
Gonna have to switch to yours. It just sounds better, it's lighter weight, and faster to use.
Well done!
Hot savory damn. This'll be a day one purchase from me; this is the plugin I've been requesting from BSA since the moment they launched. I've never found a clipper I liked using and this looks like what I was imagining in my head all along.
That song is sick! Great tips as well man.
Thank you! That was very usefull info!
Thanks for sharing! Been sending my music to a mastering engineer hoping he would make it louder but it usually is not much louder than what I send him. He does a great job and It sounds fantastic but it is a little softer than most professional recordings. I can't stand limiters and don't understand why studios use them. There are so many professional recordings where I can hear the limiting on it and it sounds horrible. Been looking for a solution like this. The music sounds natural with no artifacts. Going to try this technique on my next mix! Thanks again!
Love the video thank you so much for putting this up. You should put a link to your website in the description. Thanks
I am still learning the limiting game. It is good to know about other techniques!✌
Clipping is a game changer, just installed Kazorg Kclip on my drums and master chain for a djenty/Thall number and it's phenomenal.
Just purchased your plugin. Thank you!
Great hustle!!!
I use OVC-128 by Voxengo. It's 3 knobs. Input Gain (clipping), knee softness, and output gain. It's oversampled by 128x. I've tried almost every clipper out there and it sounds most transparent to my ears. Newfangled Saturate is amazing too because it actually puts the detail back onto the clipped waveform so it's not just a square wave at 0 db.
Is it really good? The ovc
KClip3 is great but I appreciate this video a whole lot
Great video, thank you
I like this one, thinking outside the box!
I see more importance for dedicated clippers now more than ever - which I believe has a lot to do with 32bit DAW environments. You can very easily fool yourself into thinking you are clipping something when you aren’t ie. seeing overs lights may not actually mean you’re over 0dbfs. I think this is the reason pro tools changed their overs indicators on each channel from red to green. That’s what made me wonder if the Trim plugin you brought in was clipping anything because the audio would have to be hitting your converters above 0 to clip. Either way, I think this is a great conversation and it stays interesting as tech changes. Love the video!
I dig how simple your clipper is. I got k clip 3 for $40 and it has mb mode which I love.
Nice one man, good to know
Dang! Im definitely gonna try that! I am always struggling to get my drum mixes loud enough. And thats mainly because I cant hit the limiter hard enough because of the snare transients. I was thinking of trying multiband compression. But clipping sounds way easier. And as you said I of course dont wanna loose the attack of the snare completely.
Just put it on my mix. It's literally a magic button. Oxygen and Low Control were also well worth the investment. These are definitely getting saved to my bus presets.
What a difference thanks man
Man that drum sounds killer.
I used to worry about sounds peaking above 0db. A few months ago I discovered soft clipping on my own.
For me it was Fruity Soft Clipper - 2 knobs - only found threshold useful for production, post gain could be good for mastering. Put it on master of project template and never worried about peaking again.
Now I struggle to reach Spotify's preferred -14 db integrated loudness, always hitting like -10 😂
Regarding clipping in general : You can often see the tracks that benefit from it. If you see a lot of very fast/short spikes on a track, it's a candidate. You can't hear them anyways - they are too fast for that.
Thanks for the video I’m gonna try out your product. How can I buy the song in this video I just love it.
dude i love you
there was a warren huart video where the guy used a clipper before Pro-L and set Pro-L to monitor ONLY the overs. turned the clipping threshold down until nothing was in the limiter, then used the limited like normal. HUGE difference. it's boz little clipper for me.
Link?
Have you tried the limiter in the Scheps Omni Channel by Waves? I've thrown that at then end of my master bus a few times and I remember being surprised with how good it sounded.
maaaan!!! You changed my life 😭😭😭
or, is it like a transient shaper?? thx....does work well!!
It's funny how I've been looking for this solution for years, but wasn't able to find it until recently is insane. Every time I asked the internet throughout all these years, it was the same answers, then after spending so long working on my mixes and mastering chains I just couldn't get it. I came to the conclusion the loudness was only possible by people who are wizards when it comes to mastering.
Finding out now, that they're all just clipping everything is great to know but also disappointing that no one told me this sooner. People even got offended at the idea I was asking how to get louder masters, it was always just basically "get better" LOL
The flex when you said you made your own plug in lol nice
Looking at the site here, is the Escalator plugin the same thing as the BSA Clipper shown in the video? Thanks.
Thanks for the video. I got the plugin! I was just wondering when you use it on your master chain? Before or after your final maximizer?
Hello most common way is before the final Limiter. You might not even need it because the soft clipping will get it loud 📢 enjoy
thank u 🥰
Can you quantify a target loudness metric in say LUFS though? How loud did your mic end up exactly. It’s still arbitrary otherwise w what the goal is.
I end up turning things down a lot on mic bus via trim or and limiter bc 10 lufs is not necessary bc of say streaming normalization (14 lufs) type a thing
BRAVO!
Sounds really great but I don't see Clipper on your site. Can you let me know which one it is?
Nice. Few questions
1. whats the difference in "soft clipping"
2. I dont quite get the concept of the ceiling. If a kick is peaking at -12 and I add the clipper, and I add perceived volume of 6db (is this perceived or actual?) would I reduce the ceiling by 6db to volume match? I understand my question is kind of loaded and will be difficult to answer here
So if using the trim plugin, u must use the master fader and turn it down? To properly soft clip with it? Driving the input basically and using the fader as the limit/ make a ceiling?I usually use a soft clipper, but just curious about this process that you used before creating your plug
This was sooo illuminating, and the BSA clipper looks awesome! I've only ever used StandardClip, and while it sounds great, there's just so much info on screen in that plug-in, and a lot of red lol
Edit: if you were just using parallel comp right on your drum bus, would you clip before or after the compressor?
I've never used a clipper before. I couldn't figure out why my limiting sounded like it was getting the loudness, yet it was still too soft on CZcams, compared to other songs. I didn't like the idea of clipping off the transients. I thought it would ruin the sound, by taking away necessary elements. I'm going to start using a clipper & see if I get better results.
I just realized im not using this right, i forgot about the slider😳😂 glad i rewatched this.
Hi.. do you have versions of your plugins that work on older mac OS 9.5?
Thx
yesssssssss love it
My suffering has come to an end! Thank you!
Very interesting approach, but in a discussion with classic music guys, audiophiles and lovers of "clean" sounding equipment, what can be my arguments against "drowning the details in harmonics" or "ear-fatigue" or "I can hear the clipping"… ?
Tell em to buzz off. They’re not listening to anything heavy.
When should you use compressions over clipping?
you need to check out this plugin (Barricade 4) by ToneBoosters
its the best clipper ive ever used especially on the kick
it has a lot of options i use (soft clip) option and mess with the treshold and makeup gain so i reach the punch that i want in the kick
this plugin is a game changer in the punch
Where would you recommend placing the BSA Clipper in the mastering chain?
Yes! Finally a simple clipper plugin with an actual usable meter
Kclip is fantastic as well with way more features
@@Tinderbiddles I gave it a try, but it has a lot more features than i actually need/want. Lately I've been using Logic Pro X's bitcrusher clipping section, but it lacks some visual feedback. This BSA Clipper seems perfect (for me at least)
When will it be available? I like Kazrog KClip 2 and use it all over every mix. But curious how yours compares. Vid description says it's available, but don't see it on your site yet. Looking forward to it!
This Friday!
i like to use a plugin called Standard Clip for this , but in my experience the final mix will sound Dark and not sharp and without clear transients so i decided to stop using it on mix process .
Here's something I learned from reading Bob Katz: if your session is in 32-bit float, you can clip the channels all you want, but if you lower your master, you will have the exact same unclipped signal. For the trim thing to work, you would need to have your session at 24-bit fixed point.
I think you can still do that with channels in most daws in 24bit
@@dnthrx If you're not going OTB, 48k at 32-bit is perfectly fine. I wouldn't go any lower, but higher is not needed.
@@dnthrx 32-bit floating point is more important than 96k or more. At least in my experience. I tend to be very pragmatic about this. Saving disk space is a good thing.
Converting to fixed point should be the very last step in mastering. This is why plugins exist, to do the work without degrading the bit resolution
what song is this? and great video once again!
I'm so confused, if anyone can help me out. What is the functional difference between this clipping plugin and something like a Limiter? Like what is the plugin actually doing to "clip" it past the threshhold? I have assume it's using some form of compression or limiting right? Or am I completely misunderstanding what happens when something "clips" past a certain threshold. Is it like a saturator/distortion where it just rounds or squares off the top of the waveform? When he clipped the master bus using the trim plugin, how is that different than just turning up the master until you see it redline on your meter? Does this boil down to just "digital distortion isn't necessarily bad" or am I fundamentally misunderstanding something about what happens when it "clips"?
Is this basically like limiting or compression? I’m just confused because I didn’t know about this either.
Nice video. You didn’t mentioned hard vs soft clipping. Think it’s important in this context
Couldn't find it on the website!!!
If you clip away the transients, wouldnt u lose the punch esp for the drums?
Is this plugin - and also the others - also availabable/working with Cubase/VST?
Baphometrix has an excellent tutorial on clipping, in which he claims and with some friends prove, that you are better off clipping in small increments. So put clipping on every drum you like it before you do the final clipping.
Yet another mastering engineer was also using clipping _before_ limiting, so the limiter does not need to work hard (and heard hard).
I'd definitely look into the plugin if you make level compensation like the L1 and L2..
yeah what the hell
FFS, there’s a trial
@@roomofidiots A trial won't fix level compensation..
Cool Video! What is the songs name?
should a limiter go after the clipper in the mastering chain anyways or does the clipper take the limiters place completely?
So... when is this coming out?
BSA is your company? Had no idea :) I’ve been enjoying your clipper for a while now
Life saver
This is not a revelation, Jordan. This is THE revelation. I wanted something like this so bad.
song so good made me itchy
why mine when i using BSA and bringing down the ceiling it start to distort. it just a reducing a few db.