The Ultimate Tool for Louder Mixes (Without Losing Punch)

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  • čas přidán 19. 04. 2022
  • ☛ Check out Clipper and all the Black Salt Audio plugins at blacksaltaudio.com
    For years I simply could not achieve modern loudness without completely destroying my mixes with limiting…
    Until a mentor told me how to do it. And now, I'm sharing it here with you.
    In this video you’ll see:
    - The ‘normal’ way for getting loudness that makes your mixes suck
    - How to do it without sacrificing any impact or punch
    - Examples of where you’d use clipping in a mix
    - A new plugin that makes clipping simple, easy and satisfying
    ☛ Music in this video - Jevani Sanders / ritoruborazaofficial
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Komentáře • 272

  • @hardcoremusicstudio
    @hardcoremusicstudio  Před 2 lety +12

    BSA Clipper is available now. Check it out here ---> blacksaltaudio.com/clipper/ 14-day trial available!

  • @xmarioxde
    @xmarioxde Před 2 lety +124

    Great info.
    For all Reaper-Users: give JS Event Horizon Clipper. Works kind of similar, except for the lack of a fancy interface :)

    • @reddotrecording
      @reddotrecording Před 2 lety +17

      ...and for everyone else: Event Horizon in Reaper was made by the guy who makes Stillwell Plugins. He has a plugin called Stillwell Event Horizon (wonder where they got that name?) with a great interface and exactly the same clipping algorithm. It's awesome!

    • @insertanynameyouwant5311
      @insertanynameyouwant5311 Před 2 lety +1

      @@reddotrecording I wonder if more expensive clippers like Flatline or others are any better than Event Horizon?

    • @reddotrecording
      @reddotrecording Před 2 lety +3

      @@insertanynameyouwant5311 Hard to say. I can hear JST clip being different than Event Horizon. Pro L2 has a clipping mode that I haven't used (so it could be tested). Kush Audio's Omega Twk is a saturation/clipper and I use it sometimes to clip special effect stuff like impacts. It sounds different than the other two.
      So I'm not sure if price is correlated to effectiveness in any way. But between the clipping options I have in Reaper, JST Clip, and Kush Twk I feel pretty solid. A few folks have recommended Flatline to me saying it's good. I don't need another clipper.
      If I had to buy a clipping plugin today without demoing anything I'd get the Boz Digital Labs Big Clipper. The other Boz plugins I have are all super awesome and an absolutely killer price. They're worth way more than he's charging and they always sound great.

    • @escalator9734
      @escalator9734 Před 2 lety +1

      @@reddotrecording I've only tried flatline, and it can be "nasty" sounding or too noticeable even on a ~3dB of clipping. I don't know if that's just the way clippers go but the one in this video seems "cleaner". The shape knob on flatline can resolve the issue somewhat, but it felt a bit weird that a mastering focused clipper would be so un-transparent so easily

    • @reddotrecording
      @reddotrecording Před 2 lety +1

      @@escalator9734 Interesting! I sometimes really like when I can hear a plugin breaking. It's like: "here's the edge of where we stop sounding good...don't mess it up!" Softube's Console 1 plugin American Class A is that way, too. The drive/saturation is really great sounding but when you push it too far you INSTANTLY know it.
      3db of clipping isn't a small amount either. I really try not to do that much all at once. I don't ever really like the sound of it. I typically clip and compress in a few spots all over and on a lot of different sources in track. My thinking is if I shave a little of the big peak off then compress a little to bring back some of that transient shape only for it to hit a little clipping and a little compression and some limiting and some more clipping, etc. I can - by the end of the whole process - have a pretty loud master that doesn't sound like it's been demolished by loudness maximizing efforts.

  • @voidboi0
    @voidboi0 Před rokem +57

    You're a godsend for indie home artists. Each video I've seen so far has been a much needed source of answers for my mixes.

  • @tylergunn733
    @tylergunn733 Před 2 lety +25

    Literally 30 minutes after trying the free trial for this plug-in I can’t imagine life without it, thank you Jordan for this and all your teachings 🙏🏾 a couple years ago I wouldn’t have imagined getting this far

  • @timbenton617
    @timbenton617 Před rokem +8

    To start, I never bother to comment, I just don’t. But I just found your channel and in the last few days you have cleared up several issues for me. (I’m about 1-2 years into learning how to mix). We all know that there are a million different videos from a million different people with a million different mixing tips but yours are very clear and concise. Thank you!!!!!

  • @BrainDeadTX
    @BrainDeadTX Před 2 lety +6

    It sounds awesome, really love that energy/aggressive character that it adds to the drums.

  • @solaceprevails
    @solaceprevails Před 2 lety +21

    I use gclip on my drum busses and on my master right before a limiter. It was a game changer for me.

  • @HardTimesStudios
    @HardTimesStudios Před rokem +19

    I started using clipping last year, I make electronic music and it's made such a huge difference, I really wish I had learned this years ago.

  • @stevendevries1395
    @stevendevries1395 Před rokem +1

    Extremely clear and no nonsense explanations. Thank you. Wish I would have found your channel sooner. Keep it up! You're helping a lot.

  • @souletunes
    @souletunes Před 2 lety +2

    I just tried this out, you have a very fine plugin, it's quite amazing what it does, especially on drums! Thank you :)

  • @davidhayman9330
    @davidhayman9330 Před 2 lety +2

    Really appreciate the clear and straightforward explanation (referring to your experience helps to clarify too). This is great tip...have been using a limiter up till now.

  • @champagnecasuals
    @champagnecasuals Před 5 měsíci

    I've not found any videos so far that explain this topic in such detail. Its like people don't want you to know. Great video - thanks!

  • @levonsarkissians
    @levonsarkissians Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks a lot! purchased and it works very well! no complicated knobs and tweaking required:) easy to use and certainly made a difference when I applied in my final mix.

  • @bluenitriletouch2842
    @bluenitriletouch2842 Před 11 měsíci

    I really like how you spoke about not using red lights when designing the clipper with your team. I think that's honestly a refreshing take. Stoked to grab this plugin.

  • @roxnroll8050
    @roxnroll8050 Před 2 lety

    Such a great video AND plugin! Thanks for making it :)

  • @zeclomal2265
    @zeclomal2265 Před 2 lety +28

    I remember 4 years ago, listening to my first mixes (they were the definition of "horrible") and watching Jordan's videos. Nowadays I'm so fucking proud of how I mix and I'd say at least 50% of it is thank to this guy!

  • @TheMixAcademy
    @TheMixAcademy Před 2 lety +14

    Love it. My OCD thanks you for not making the lights red. Option-c in Pro Tools has become a twitch I can’t get rid of. 😂

  • @sbd-music
    @sbd-music Před 6 měsíci

    THANK YOU FOR THIS LITTLE BIT OF ADVICE IDK HOW I NEVER CAME ACROSS THIS BEFORE BUT IT'S INCREDIBLE

  • @Zibo100
    @Zibo100 Před rokem +1

    So far you are the best channel for tips and lessons to mixing engineering.congratulations and well done for your job!

  • @PaulRamos-Entrepreneur

    Looking forward your other plugins are so simply nice.

  • @brianvillage5
    @brianvillage5 Před 2 lety +9

    Newfangled saturate is a pretty great clipper. You can really push it hard without it destroying your mix. It’s also included in Elevate which is a great mastering limiter.

  • @mengeleto11
    @mengeleto11 Před 2 měsíci

    Very good explanation as always! Thank you!

  • @great_peace
    @great_peace Před rokem +6

    This video right here. Super helpful. This adds a whole new level of confidence to making music and I like how you clearly defined the difference between just squashing everything with a limiter vs trimming the unwanted information with a softclipper and keeping the integrity of the track and even adding energy to it, not taking energy away. Thank you!!! I'm gonna check your softclipper out👍

  • @BAwesomeDesign
    @BAwesomeDesign Před rokem

    Thanks Jordan. Another fine video that is very helpful!

  • @mjk9833
    @mjk9833 Před rokem

    Best plugin commercial. Have to get it!! Love your videos ❤

  • @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579
    @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579 Před 6 měsíci

    Excellent demo. I've never been in a pro mix situation, just building a home studio with the Studio One DAW. I learned pretty quick limiting alone wasn't cutting it. I'm not certain who did a tutorial about a clipper into a limiter on the 2 bus, but it changed the end result greatly. It's not for everyone though.
    Checking your plug-ins out. It sounds, works, and looks great.

  • @djdeathcore5731
    @djdeathcore5731 Před rokem +1

    Wow.. I've struggled with this for years. Just clipped everything and my track sounds almost twice as loud. Thanks HCMS!

  • @zihengwang3648
    @zihengwang3648 Před 2 lety

    Thanks JV, love this share

  • @nevillesekara6457
    @nevillesekara6457 Před rokem

    Thank you!! very helpful, really help me which I was also ways troubled, simple loud and clear.👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @keptonhold
    @keptonhold Před 2 lety +1

    Dude. So helpful. Thank you. Can’t wait for the plug-in to come out already 😭

  • @jonathanoates1972
    @jonathanoates1972 Před 2 lety +4

    I work in dance muisic and realised this clipping business after watching the amazing series by Baphometrix. I can't reccommend this series enough. Massive detail on how to do this right. 22 episodes and about 35 hours. But it's a gamer changer. So if any of your subscribers want to see how this is done in huge in depth detail then this will show them. Kazrog clipper is one of the simplest to use and has a wave form showing you the clipped peaks. If i was going to use BSA clipper i would have to use an ocilliscope to see what's going on.

  • @Tephomab
    @Tephomab Před rokem

    Been using Limiter No6 for clipping for ages, more recently started using the clipper in iZotope's Maximizer as well.
    Gonna have to switch to yours. It just sounds better, it's lighter weight, and faster to use.
    Well done!

  • @LeFeversAudio
    @LeFeversAudio Před 2 lety +1

    Hot savory damn. This'll be a day one purchase from me; this is the plugin I've been requesting from BSA since the moment they launched. I've never found a clipper I liked using and this looks like what I was imagining in my head all along.

  • @IanJamesBeats
    @IanJamesBeats Před 2 lety +1

    That song is sick! Great tips as well man.

  • @StephanStavisskii
    @StephanStavisskii Před 2 lety

    Thank you! That was very usefull info!

  • @davidkelly2891
    @davidkelly2891 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for sharing! Been sending my music to a mastering engineer hoping he would make it louder but it usually is not much louder than what I send him. He does a great job and It sounds fantastic but it is a little softer than most professional recordings. I can't stand limiters and don't understand why studios use them. There are so many professional recordings where I can hear the limiting on it and it sounds horrible. Been looking for a solution like this. The music sounds natural with no artifacts. Going to try this technique on my next mix! Thanks again!

  • @mixermantim
    @mixermantim Před 2 lety +1

    Love the video thank you so much for putting this up. You should put a link to your website in the description. Thanks

  • @gregtapevideo1464
    @gregtapevideo1464 Před rokem

    I am still learning the limiting game. It is good to know about other techniques!✌

  • @theriffdjenerator2213

    Clipping is a game changer, just installed Kazorg Kclip on my drums and master chain for a djenty/Thall number and it's phenomenal.

  • @maximrecords5492
    @maximrecords5492 Před 9 měsíci

    Just purchased your plugin. Thank you!

  • @billclay2701
    @billclay2701 Před rokem

    Great hustle!!!

  • @gulagwarlord
    @gulagwarlord Před 2 lety +24

    I use OVC-128 by Voxengo. It's 3 knobs. Input Gain (clipping), knee softness, and output gain. It's oversampled by 128x. I've tried almost every clipper out there and it sounds most transparent to my ears. Newfangled Saturate is amazing too because it actually puts the detail back onto the clipped waveform so it's not just a square wave at 0 db.

  • @davidgoode7416
    @davidgoode7416 Před rokem

    Great video, thank you

  • @robonguitarnz
    @robonguitarnz Před 2 lety

    I like this one, thinking outside the box!

  • @giordash
    @giordash Před rokem

    I see more importance for dedicated clippers now more than ever - which I believe has a lot to do with 32bit DAW environments. You can very easily fool yourself into thinking you are clipping something when you aren’t ie. seeing overs lights may not actually mean you’re over 0dbfs. I think this is the reason pro tools changed their overs indicators on each channel from red to green. That’s what made me wonder if the Trim plugin you brought in was clipping anything because the audio would have to be hitting your converters above 0 to clip. Either way, I think this is a great conversation and it stays interesting as tech changes. Love the video!

  • @screendrem
    @screendrem Před 5 měsíci

    I dig how simple your clipper is. I got k clip 3 for $40 and it has mb mode which I love.

  • @dls3939
    @dls3939 Před rokem

    Nice one man, good to know

  • @DennisBergDrums
    @DennisBergDrums Před rokem

    Dang! Im definitely gonna try that! I am always struggling to get my drum mixes loud enough. And thats mainly because I cant hit the limiter hard enough because of the snare transients. I was thinking of trying multiband compression. But clipping sounds way easier. And as you said I of course dont wanna loose the attack of the snare completely.

  • @tylerbuckner3750
    @tylerbuckner3750 Před rokem

    Just put it on my mix. It's literally a magic button. Oxygen and Low Control were also well worth the investment. These are definitely getting saved to my bus presets.

  • @austinthebeast33
    @austinthebeast33 Před 5 hodinami

    What a difference thanks man

  • @Eric-dd8bk
    @Eric-dd8bk Před rokem

    Man that drum sounds killer.

  • @MonTadas
    @MonTadas Před rokem +1

    I used to worry about sounds peaking above 0db. A few months ago I discovered soft clipping on my own.
    For me it was Fruity Soft Clipper - 2 knobs - only found threshold useful for production, post gain could be good for mastering. Put it on master of project template and never worried about peaking again.
    Now I struggle to reach Spotify's preferred -14 db integrated loudness, always hitting like -10 😂

  • @jakobole
    @jakobole Před rokem +2

    Regarding clipping in general : You can often see the tracks that benefit from it. If you see a lot of very fast/short spikes on a track, it's a candidate. You can't hear them anyways - they are too fast for that.

  • @mixermantim
    @mixermantim Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the video I’m gonna try out your product. How can I buy the song in this video I just love it.

  • @aaronyoungs4870
    @aaronyoungs4870 Před rokem +1

    dude i love you

  • @xsonicassassinx
    @xsonicassassinx Před 2 lety +1

    there was a warren huart video where the guy used a clipper before Pro-L and set Pro-L to monitor ONLY the overs. turned the clipping threshold down until nothing was in the limiter, then used the limited like normal. HUGE difference. it's boz little clipper for me.

  • @qfz2112
    @qfz2112 Před 2 lety

    Have you tried the limiter in the Scheps Omni Channel by Waves? I've thrown that at then end of my master bus a few times and I remember being surprised with how good it sounded.

  • @iosifbeniaminmacina1450
    @iosifbeniaminmacina1450 Před 5 měsíci

    maaaan!!! You changed my life 😭😭😭

  • @mitchstallings5474
    @mitchstallings5474 Před 2 lety

    or, is it like a transient shaper?? thx....does work well!!

  • @BrandonShere
    @BrandonShere Před 8 měsíci

    It's funny how I've been looking for this solution for years, but wasn't able to find it until recently is insane. Every time I asked the internet throughout all these years, it was the same answers, then after spending so long working on my mixes and mastering chains I just couldn't get it. I came to the conclusion the loudness was only possible by people who are wizards when it comes to mastering.
    Finding out now, that they're all just clipping everything is great to know but also disappointing that no one told me this sooner. People even got offended at the idea I was asking how to get louder masters, it was always just basically "get better" LOL

  • @nickcrane8329
    @nickcrane8329 Před 2 lety

    The flex when you said you made your own plug in lol nice

  • @TheCallingCrow
    @TheCallingCrow Před 2 lety

    Looking at the site here, is the Escalator plugin the same thing as the BSA Clipper shown in the video? Thanks.

  • @DevonSpittleREAL
    @DevonSpittleREAL Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the video. I got the plugin! I was just wondering when you use it on your master chain? Before or after your final maximizer?

    • @29djandy
      @29djandy Před rokem

      Hello most common way is before the final Limiter. You might not even need it because the soft clipping will get it loud 📢 enjoy

  • @eichlers__
    @eichlers__ Před rokem

    thank u 🥰

  • @chinmeysway
    @chinmeysway Před rokem

    Can you quantify a target loudness metric in say LUFS though? How loud did your mic end up exactly. It’s still arbitrary otherwise w what the goal is.
    I end up turning things down a lot on mic bus via trim or and limiter bc 10 lufs is not necessary bc of say streaming normalization (14 lufs) type a thing

  • @PatrickObiang
    @PatrickObiang Před 2 lety

    BRAVO!

  • @SteveOuimette
    @SteveOuimette Před 2 lety

    Sounds really great but I don't see Clipper on your site. Can you let me know which one it is?

  • @yarncroft6692
    @yarncroft6692 Před rokem

    Nice. Few questions
    1. whats the difference in "soft clipping"
    2. I dont quite get the concept of the ceiling. If a kick is peaking at -12 and I add the clipper, and I add perceived volume of 6db (is this perceived or actual?) would I reduce the ceiling by 6db to volume match? I understand my question is kind of loaded and will be difficult to answer here

  • @particlejones
    @particlejones Před rokem

    So if using the trim plugin, u must use the master fader and turn it down? To properly soft clip with it? Driving the input basically and using the fader as the limit/ make a ceiling?I usually use a soft clipper, but just curious about this process that you used before creating your plug

  • @dylanlundgren
    @dylanlundgren Před 5 měsíci

    This was sooo illuminating, and the BSA clipper looks awesome! I've only ever used StandardClip, and while it sounds great, there's just so much info on screen in that plug-in, and a lot of red lol
    Edit: if you were just using parallel comp right on your drum bus, would you clip before or after the compressor?

  • @BillGraper
    @BillGraper Před 10 měsíci

    I've never used a clipper before. I couldn't figure out why my limiting sounded like it was getting the loudness, yet it was still too soft on CZcams, compared to other songs. I didn't like the idea of clipping off the transients. I thought it would ruin the sound, by taking away necessary elements. I'm going to start using a clipper & see if I get better results.

  • @1verzhn
    @1verzhn Před rokem

    I just realized im not using this right, i forgot about the slider😳😂 glad i rewatched this.

  • @Spider._.dust_music
    @Spider._.dust_music Před rokem

    Hi.. do you have versions of your plugins that work on older mac OS 9.5?
    Thx

  • @gastonjabaly
    @gastonjabaly Před 2 lety

    yesssssssss love it

  • @StercheleAl
    @StercheleAl Před rokem

    My suffering has come to an end! Thank you!

  • @kevinkleinaudio
    @kevinkleinaudio Před 2 lety

    Very interesting approach, but in a discussion with classic music guys, audiophiles and lovers of "clean" sounding equipment, what can be my arguments against "drowning the details in harmonics" or "ear-fatigue" or "I can hear the clipping"… ?

    • @youowemeapony
      @youowemeapony Před rokem +3

      Tell em to buzz off. They’re not listening to anything heavy.

  • @impolitikful
    @impolitikful Před rokem

    When should you use compressions over clipping?

  • @redkay7969
    @redkay7969 Před rokem

    you need to check out this plugin (Barricade 4) by ToneBoosters
    its the best clipper ive ever used especially on the kick
    it has a lot of options i use (soft clip) option and mess with the treshold and makeup gain so i reach the punch that i want in the kick
    this plugin is a game changer in the punch

  • @ctsguitar
    @ctsguitar Před 9 měsíci

    Where would you recommend placing the BSA Clipper in the mastering chain?

  • @GusAndrade
    @GusAndrade Před 2 lety +3

    Yes! Finally a simple clipper plugin with an actual usable meter

    • @Tinderbiddles
      @Tinderbiddles Před 2 lety +1

      Kclip is fantastic as well with way more features

    • @GusAndrade
      @GusAndrade Před 2 lety

      @@Tinderbiddles I gave it a try, but it has a lot more features than i actually need/want. Lately I've been using Logic Pro X's bitcrusher clipping section, but it lacks some visual feedback. This BSA Clipper seems perfect (for me at least)

  • @lunarchris1
    @lunarchris1 Před 2 lety

    When will it be available? I like Kazrog KClip 2 and use it all over every mix. But curious how yours compares. Vid description says it's available, but don't see it on your site yet. Looking forward to it!

  • @trancephile2412
    @trancephile2412 Před rokem

    i like to use a plugin called Standard Clip for this , but in my experience the final mix will sound Dark and not sharp and without clear transients so i decided to stop using it on mix process .

  • @orphic-trench
    @orphic-trench Před 2 lety +10

    Here's something I learned from reading Bob Katz: if your session is in 32-bit float, you can clip the channels all you want, but if you lower your master, you will have the exact same unclipped signal. For the trim thing to work, you would need to have your session at 24-bit fixed point.

    • @FrankTheSmithTV
      @FrankTheSmithTV Před 2 lety +2

      I think you can still do that with channels in most daws in 24bit

    • @orphic-trench
      @orphic-trench Před rokem

      @@dnthrx If you're not going OTB, 48k at 32-bit is perfectly fine. I wouldn't go any lower, but higher is not needed.

    • @orphic-trench
      @orphic-trench Před rokem +1

      @@dnthrx 32-bit floating point is more important than 96k or more. At least in my experience. I tend to be very pragmatic about this. Saving disk space is a good thing.

    • @chrisknight3734
      @chrisknight3734 Před 2 měsíci

      Converting to fixed point should be the very last step in mastering. This is why plugins exist, to do the work without degrading the bit resolution

  • @mrgibson
    @mrgibson Před 2 lety

    what song is this? and great video once again!

  • @Benji2N
    @Benji2N Před rokem

    I'm so confused, if anyone can help me out. What is the functional difference between this clipping plugin and something like a Limiter? Like what is the plugin actually doing to "clip" it past the threshhold? I have assume it's using some form of compression or limiting right? Or am I completely misunderstanding what happens when something "clips" past a certain threshold. Is it like a saturator/distortion where it just rounds or squares off the top of the waveform? When he clipped the master bus using the trim plugin, how is that different than just turning up the master until you see it redline on your meter? Does this boil down to just "digital distortion isn't necessarily bad" or am I fundamentally misunderstanding something about what happens when it "clips"?

  • @chrismillett
    @chrismillett Před 2 lety

    Is this basically like limiting or compression? I’m just confused because I didn’t know about this either.

  • @joshd265
    @joshd265 Před rokem

    Nice video. You didn’t mentioned hard vs soft clipping. Think it’s important in this context

  • @xaviervently781
    @xaviervently781 Před 2 lety +1

    Couldn't find it on the website!!!

  • @mohammadalif3650
    @mohammadalif3650 Před rokem

    If you clip away the transients, wouldnt u lose the punch esp for the drums?

  • @vectragt2310
    @vectragt2310 Před rokem

    Is this plugin - and also the others - also availabable/working with Cubase/VST?

  • @drrodopszin
    @drrodopszin Před rokem

    Baphometrix has an excellent tutorial on clipping, in which he claims and with some friends prove, that you are better off clipping in small increments. So put clipping on every drum you like it before you do the final clipping.
    Yet another mastering engineer was also using clipping _before_ limiting, so the limiter does not need to work hard (and heard hard).

  • @eranddroory9987
    @eranddroory9987 Před 2 lety +1

    I'd definitely look into the plugin if you make level compensation like the L1 and L2..

  • @oloirosomfg5993
    @oloirosomfg5993 Před 2 lety

    Cool Video! What is the songs name?

  • @ImaginaryFriendsgang
    @ImaginaryFriendsgang Před měsícem

    should a limiter go after the clipper in the mastering chain anyways or does the clipper take the limiters place completely?

  • @HashtagNeil
    @HashtagNeil Před 2 lety

    So... when is this coming out?

  • @holdenm9361
    @holdenm9361 Před 2 měsíci

    BSA is your company? Had no idea :) I’ve been enjoying your clipper for a while now

  • @BennyParcher
    @BennyParcher Před 2 lety

    Life saver

  • @zeclomal2265
    @zeclomal2265 Před 2 lety +1

    This is not a revelation, Jordan. This is THE revelation. I wanted something like this so bad.

  • @ryleydlugi4357
    @ryleydlugi4357 Před rokem

    song so good made me itchy

  • @user-pq9ub1py9r
    @user-pq9ub1py9r Před 6 měsíci

    why mine when i using BSA and bringing down the ceiling it start to distort. it just a reducing a few db.