What 15 Years of Mix Progression Sounds Like
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Going from amateur to pro mixer doesn't happen overnight!
Here's a year-by-year breakdown of what my work sounded like at the beginning, and how I got to where I am now.
I point out some key turning points and breakthroughs along the way, and how you can make the same progress even faster than I did. - Hudba
Dude, i shamelessly love you for all the content you offer to this community. THANK YOU! (from all of us)
I appreciate that!
Don't be ashamed, man! It's not just you. There are at least 33.499 more, including me hahaha. Jordan is my 2d fave teacher, after a lady I had in American Literature.
I don’t think he’s into dudes……
@@PitchforkIncorporated thank you for that absolutely important information .
@@loneryouth No Problem
Dude, thanks for showing this progression. Truth is, yes, the first tracks sound "raw" ... And yes, that's an aesthetic that's pleasing to some, especially in the scene, especially around that time... But that wasn't your intent. You wanted polish... And you spent a career finding and mastering that. I think this is phenomenal work. At 2016 you just begin to soar... And it's evident.
That Intervals mix saved my life at the time. 🙌
i aswell digged this record when it came out and until right now i didnt even know it was from him - well no wonder i liked it :D
@@loneryouth I just had the same reaction to the Nick Johnston album- such amazing art, all around.
This is an awesome video, for inspiration!
Jordan's courses were the biggest factor that put me full-time in my studio within about 18 months...
Now I want to go make some new music! 😄
Just so you know: you mixed the best-sounding Silverstein record. I threw that on my car stereo and from the first hit I was like, holy cow, this is GREAT. Super dynamic and punchy, and the production choices on that opener with that really gated guitar sound bring me back even all these years later.
Start: not enough compression
Middle: too much compression (block waveform)
Recent: considering compression the right amount each time
I couldn't watch beyond a couple of minutes because even his earliest mixes don't even remotely touch on how bad my current mixes are...and I've been trying to mix off and on since 2008.
In my "too much compression" phase
This might be cap but there’s a nostalgia to that sound that I still like. The 3rd song with the hella poppy snare and the gang vocals is SICK!
When I clicked this video, I was super skeptical. Then I found out you mixed the only Intervals record with vocals. I'm a huge fan of that record so I was geeking when you mentioned it. Anup Sastry is a monster!
nobody else online teaching mixing or recording shows their first to recent mixes for US to hear. Thank you for keeping it REAL!
Thank you for sharing. Awesome progression to where you are now. I look forward to hearing more of your great work.
The emery mix at the end! Hearing those old nostalgic songs with a fresh modern mix, melted my heart. Awesome progress man!
This is beyond inspiring! Thank you so much--I've noticed some strides in my mixing, and I have a long ways to go, but progress is key.
16:03 OH SICK. That Intervals album was MY FAVORITE and was my workout music for a year or more, still perhaps my favorite program metal album.... Small world that I end up getting to hear from the engineer. Love that.
Thanks for showing your growth! It's inspiring to see how much time and being patient contributes to getting better. It's easy to forget making good art just takes time
Originally discovered you from A Voice Within and been following your content for a couple years. This has been my favorite video so far. Thanks for the encouragement.
Dude, this came up on my recommended and I'm sitting here loving the vid when you mention u mixed NJ's REMARKABLY HUMAN!! One of my all-time favs!! So good dude
Really appreciate the level matching.
Aspiring studio guy here. This serves as some great inspiration for me. Ive been at it for a few years and ive seen my progression go from that raw sort of slop to some actually decent sounding mixes. Im no pro yet and no clients, just my own band, but im at a point now where im finally getting some of the main concepts and confidence in my ability. Anyways, thanks for the insights!
really awesome progress on the mixes btw!
I am addicted to Binary Garden. Great music content and I still can't get enough of the mix. I still listen to it almost everyday.
I can't believe how many of tge band and albums that you recorded that impacted my life. And now I'm learning to improves my mixes from you. Bottom of my heart, thank you.
Definitely needed this video, my confidence has just been boosted. I'm just over a year into mixing, still a child in the mixing world lol.
You’re one of my favorite mixers Jordan and you teach so well and offer so much to us. I’ve loved your work for years and have your book and you’ve helped me a lot! Keep it up! Much thanks
Also, one of my favorite mixes of yours is the Forevermore album you did. It’s THICCCC, been jammin that one for years now
Thank you, Jordan! This is a great video idea! It is very helpful and encouraging being able to see your progress like this over the years. I think more content like this is super valuable. Maybe a video idea could be to have certain transitional moments from your career that you go more in depth with. Like taking a microscope into certain portions of this timeline.
this was super motivating Jordan; thank you so much for this video.
I love your channel man, just watched a handful of your video's, super insightful.
You are a great mix engineer, and perhaps overlooked in my opinion, thank you for what you do, and for your down to earth personality that makes learning from you easy and eager to watch the next video!
His drums currently are second to none, in my opinion.
mixing and learning takes time learning more from mix engineers will make you progress....I'm learning the progress since 2016 on my own ,learning from scratch....thanks for this video
You have probably the most helpful videos on CZcams that I've found. Since I subscribed and started watching my mixes immediately started getting better.
That's awesome, thank you!
Love your content man, all of the talent, none of the pretentiousness and hubris. Keep it up!
yeah, hes an incredible dude. Really a great channel
Man, this is really an inspiring development. I've also found myself needing a break after many years of mixing music. And I starting developing other business too. But now, just like u, I want to get back to mixing some music. I'm not so goot and consistent as u in mixing, and haven't got contracts with labels... But still, that's a lot of similarities to our lifeways. Thank u
This is the most encouraging video I've ever seen. Thank you for this.
Great content! I find when you're mixing you have to be happy with the small mix-to-mix improvements! It's a HUUUGE learning curve especially when you're working in non-professional situations, which nowadays many of us are! As long as each mix is a bit better than the last you're on the right road! I always focus on what's wrong in my mixes over what's right but it makes me try harder next time round and improve! One thing that I seriously struggled with was getting the snare right... I could get the crack but never the ring! Turns out I was just terrible at rim shots and should definitely been having using a better drummer, haha!
It's great that you show your progress over time. I wish that more songwriters and producers did something like this. To a lot of people succes seems to come overnight, but they never see the years long struggle and the investment in the craft. Something you did not cover, but what is also essential is to learn to really listen. Taking time for some audio/ ear-training can also save you some years.
Personally, I think Logic from Apple makes it much easier to step into the world of audio production than Pro Tools. I made a big leap in queality when I switched from Pro-Tools to Logic, somehow it's more intuitive when everything is still new. The channel presets are a great guide to get an idea what to do.
I'm on the waitlist, hoping I can get in!
only been home recording and mixing for just over 2 years but I can tell a big difference in that time thanks to guys like you and Bobby over at Frightbox
Dude it's so interesting how OUR perception of our ability changes... Both of those mixes sound great, and I don't notice any problems with either of them. Keep going and keep progressing, by all means, but remember that every mix/record you make is the BEST you could do at the time--that fact is worth something on its own. Loving your videos today! You share great insight and new perspectives on things that have really helped me view/approach some things differently. Hats off brother!
I started working as soon as I got my first interface. I recorded and mixed in first 2 months of getting the interface, recorded drums with only 4 mics and learned with shitty equipment. You really learn the most trying to make bad recordings sound decent. Year after I recorded drums with 8 mics and undrestood much more about mixing, thanks to the wonderful knowledge source of youtube. I did live sound engineering for half a year, I was 18 at that time. Now I'm 2 years in and I can really hear the difference in my mixing, I'm still no way as good as professionals, but I keep mixing covers and small projects for friends, because sadly I dropped my recording project. I still haven't started uni and I don't know if persuing sound engineering is a great Idea especially now, but learning all this really makes me appreciate great mixes. Stay safe everyone
I am from brazil and your videos have totally changed my mixes,thank you very much for sharing your knowledge!!!
I listened THE SHIT out of that Counterparts album back then. Super cool to be at this stage, getting into production and finding the guy who friggin' made the album sound so clean! Super cool to see the progress - thanks so much for the inspiration. Gonna stop procrastinating and go work on my mix. Cheers!
Such an important video man and inspiring to see your journey.
Lots of love man thanks for the motivation
Ah so it's the drums that make all those old analog recorded albums sound live. I honestly never knew they were using drum samples in metal production/engineering until I started watching tutorials. Even though I mostly do hip hop, I like to try to learn stuff from people working on rock/metal projects to. I'm only in this about 2 years and on my new setup for about 4 months. There's much to learn but I'm glad I spent all that time using the FL demo before getting a bunch of hardware and other stuff. It kind of helped me gain an understanding of what different things do.
awesome. killer mixes. i do have a freakin passion for the early raw. somethin about it. wish i had some of these bands to look up!
thanks for the vid, man.
hey dude, didn't know you were on CZcams. Cool video...great throwback to a simpler time!
omg i always loved counterparts especially that song. thats mad cool ! Thanks for sharing
That one has been very helpful. Thanks
Thank you. This was very encouraging
My jaw dropped after you explained the break through you had with the second Silverstein record, then played On Brave Mountains We Conquer. You sir, are the man!
Dang Emery I loved pony tail parade then lost track of them when tooth and nail went through that rough patch with fsf (going with another singer), project 86 and stavesacre all leaving or going to big label. It's good to hear new (old) stuff from them.
I found this channel 6 months ago because I run a home recording studio and just found out that you mixed one of my favorite records of all time (Silverstein This Is How the Wind Shifts) That's really cool.
So goood!! I think I'll do my own too to see the differences! Thanks!
This is really interesting because especially for heavy music on a diy level, the mid 00's were very "raw" sounding in general. That's kind of what made it special at the time, but watching your journey and (to my ears) growing mid area EQ control is fantastic.
This is very comforting. I am about to open up a studio and start recording bands. The Am I good enough mindset has plagued me for long enough but I am pleased to report I am willing to as you say get my hands dirty. Thanks for everything Jordan
Hey I just wanted to tell you good luck. I hope some killer music n mixes come out of your studio.
@@RockVoice4Real Thanks man much appreciated
Thank you so much for this video!
Hey man, would appreciate to know the story of how you reached out to bands and pitched your services. That would totally helpful. I know you kinda glossed over it by saying you had a network, but would love to know how those conversations worked. Thanks!
bro, i've been admiring your content already and now you just tell me the you did Forevermore's song Wormtongue. Huge inspiration!
I think there is a lot of value in first time mixes. It shows what someone liked without having the technical knowledge to fully achieve it, so hearing little sparks of familiarity are cool. I'm a big fan of old demos anyway as I think that's a band at their purest, so I like a raw mix as well as a really polished one.
This is so inspiring for someone like me who's still incredible amateur like with both recording and mixing my own stuff. Been going for 1 year and a bit and feel like I'm always going to be crap but this shows I can get there if I keep going
im on my 5th year of feeling like crap, but its slowly growing into something impressive. if you've got good enough taste, your skills will need more time to catch up
One thing I noticed was just how much better the vocals started to sound more "in the mix" rather than sitting on top like the earlier songs did
yes exactly! the drums keep getting snappier too.
This is literally how long I have been on this journey too. Goddamn. Thanks for putting this out there for all to see and hear your progress.
“I started here,” *shows good mix* “and now I’m here,” *shows an also really good mix*
Long short: be good at mixing
I actualy dig your old mixes
You're earliest Mixes are better than almost all of Mine.
Funny enough i Had some lightbulb Moments (Not only) in your course on pma. Also i feel i learned a whole Lot from Tuning my Recording skills.
I highly recommend listening to Vektor's 'Terminal Redux' if you want some pointers on how to mix metal music in the 2020's.
Damn you’re the dude who made my favorite and IMO the best Silverstein record, good shit
omg you did the structures EP
Very cool jordon!
Very cool way to track improvement, maybe we don’t realize our improvements mix after mix, it’s cool to see the big picture, I recently did the same thing and I feel it’s really a motivation booster to do more and more mixes 💪🏾💪🏾
Great video, very interesting !..
I heard the counterparts track and my ears perked up haha
Had no idea you mixed Dead and Divine that band slays!
Honestly, considering you had just started -- that first mix from '06 is not bad,...at all. The performance,.....not so good. Was fun to listen to the progression,....great stuff, thanks for sharing.
love your videos thanks alot for this :)
this is such a cool and awesome video
"No one is gonna get there overnight"
Me: ... soooo 2 nights? 😂
Awesome video man. I've been watching since your first counterparts mix video!
Wish I could afford your course but I greatly appreciate all the help you've been with the free videos you give us here.
Thank you for sharing that, we so often get in our own way by believing "we are not good enough"
Man I wish I could send my mixes to ya and see what you think. I feel like theres some magic missing from my progression in all of this.
Where do you live? a lot of cool music happening, id say thats worth a mention. This is a great video. Thanks!
I would love to hear a whole Jordan remix of Emery's I'm only a man album! Sounded great.
I also remember when my friends and I found those old 2010 era structures and counterparts albums and really enjoyed them.
Do you have a list of the songs? Nice video, by the way - it's interesting to see this perspective!
A question: do you find that time has been a factor in your recordings? In as much as, are bands spending more time with you through tracking & mixing or have you just got better and quicker at getting good sounds?
This is a really interesting video, I've noticed a similar big improvement in the quality of my mixes in the last couple of years. I put this down to a couple of things: watching and learning from some great CZcams tutorials; more practice; getting some decent plugins. I think the last one has less to do with the plugins themselves (you can get great results without spending a lot on plugins) and more because getting those plugins forced me to learn them better and drove me to practice more to feel like I was getting value from them.
Proud of you man 🤙🏻
Love Silverstein man!
Oh shit you did that neck deep mix, i really love it! :D
dude, thank you for this video
Had no idea you mixed remarkably human. Legitimately one of my favorite albums
so you worked with nick johnston !!!!! thats great man i appreciate your work
I'm shamelessly commenting on this 3 years after the fact but DUDE.... you produced Antimacy by Dead and Divine? That album is sick!!!!!!!!!
Interesting. One thing that would be nice to hear your perspective is how did loudness changed in your mixes all these years
i love that auras record so much. over the years have you been exporting at different ceilings?
Ngl I Hella fw the "old bad mixes" those went So hard
respect bro. i can relate.
Man, I love the 2006 mixes. They sound awesome
Lots of people saying that! What the heck haha. Maybe being too polished isn't pleasing to peoples ears because we are used to hearing non-polished releases?
Your counterparts record sound killer .. what a difference in your tone from project to project
Hey, Jordan! What is your technology of creating your own drum samples? Do you record live drums and make samples, or you mix some track and cut final drum sound for sample, or something else? It's very interesting, I'm thinking a long time about my own samples.
What do you mean by drum editing? Like chop up the samples and quantize them? If you do that, wouldnt you have to do it with all the instruments...otherwise everything will be off slightly?
Hey, great content. I was a little mean to u in the past, but I can actually see that I was an idiot. U r a real nice guy who had a great experience in the industry and mixing. It's a pleasure to take a sip of ur experiecnce
It's amazing to see the progress 🤘🏻
Question: What would you say was your biggest "ahaa" moment in mixing heavy guitars?
Awesome question. I love "ahaa" moments. Basically, I live for them. I never used a expression in my language (Spanish) for them but "ahaa" seems just perfect xD.
in Finland that would be "huh huh" moment )))
@@rmv2333 in Finland that would be "huh huh" moment )))
Uff that Nick Johnston is still one of my favorites!
Structures, All of the Above? Amazing ep.
my band Woe of Tyrants toured with Structures and Within The Ruins that year...amazing dudes, they introduced me to the Canadian delicacy Poutine. 2009, the glory days
@@johnnyroberts8641 IN THE NEW JERUSALEM!
Holy crap. Kingdom of Might. Appreciate you guys making that album \m/
@@johnnyroberts8641 I'm up here in Wisconsin. That poutine stuff makes it way down here too. So good
Much love bro, thanks for the kind words! Yeah dude, poutine was so delicious, I kinda realized then and there that Americans waste fries with ketchup and I wanted Canada to adopt me