The Inte-R-llicharger is not a crappy copy of the Intellicharger. It charges much faster and its current is supposed to be nearly twice as high, but it makes more heat.
I am continually amazed at your ability to review items. Some seemingly benign aspects of an item are discovered and addressed with an unusual breadth of knowledge about function and materials. I am accustomed to it with knives and even flashlights but here is yet another example of thoroughness and intelligence. I thoroughly enjoyed this review. Oh, and I laughed out loud at the LeSportsac review...made my morning.Thank you.
Thank you for making this test review for these battery chargers. It is very informative for me to decide which charger to buy. これらの充電器のためのこのテストのレビューを作成していただきありがとうございます。私が購入している充電器を決定することは非常に有益である。
Their is a difference in the maximum OUTPUT current between the two chargers (that is clear from the labels on the back). Intellichatger gives a current of 0.375 A. InteRllicharger gives a current of 0.500 A. For the same voltage(4.2).
Nice comparison, thank you. I use the Pila IBC 4-stage Intelligent charger for my 18650 and 16340 batteries and i t always completes in under 4 hours without getting hot. I like it very much, it's very useful and cost around $45.00
Slow charging batteries usually is better for the batteries. It would be interesting to see if the batteries charged in the Jetbeam hold a charge as long as those charged in the NiteCore.
For the bag part it's "le sport sac", meaning the sport bag. It's french. And thanks for the video, everytimes I get a chinese counterpart it is crap. I should always get the original one. Even if it's a little bit more expensive.
Hi Wako. I have the NiteCore and here in israel is 240 V / 60 Hz. I have a 3100 mAh Panasonic's 18650 batterys and their charging time is about 5-6 hours,I'm not draining the battery to the end as you did for the test So I guess that has taken a long time charging. I had lots of Chargers, but I love the nitecore than any other,It is great that charging is slow And the charger does not warm so the batteries do not run out quickly, fast charging is not good for the life of the batteries.
From a passing glance, the circuits are more or less the same, just a different layout, and the new one seems to have larger main capacitors, and fewer banks of ceramic capacitors, probably more reliable, higher temperature components.
Im using a Interllicharger I2 Pro from Jetbeam, no hot, no problems for 1 year 24/7 constant use! charge anything type of cylindrical battery. Output max 4,2v @500ma x2 batteryss, or 1,4v @ 750ma x 2 batterys, nice review, its very hard to identify fakes!
My NiteCore charges 2 - 18650 batteries in about 3-4 hrs. Not sure what batteries you had there. Faster is not always better, I wounder if they both got the same amount of charge. Too much heat over time tends to do damage to electronics, for some reason it tends to let the smoke out of resistors....Not good :-} Thanks for sharing this and Take Care :-))
It's not about if it's made in China, but the specifications followed to build it. Remember Iphones are made in China but they follow specs and certifications. Also the designs are good. ONLY copies have that problem or low grade products, you can get high quality stuff from china if you request it and pay for it.
I was laughing so hard when you compared the knock off bag to the real bag. I wonder, in all seriousness, why these companies can't make a quality charger that is safe to leave unattended? I hate cheap stuff!
Actually jetbeam and sysmax worked together at nitecore brand, but some time, jetbeam split and produced his own chargers that was developed together with sysmax, both are good chargers. Big UP man!
Was thinking of getting the Nitecore version as I'm about to get a new fenix...... might be interesting to use a meter on the cells when they have been full charged on each model to see the actual output.
You're wrong, both chargers have nearly the same circuit and charge with the same current. Only difference: Interllicharger uses channel 1+2 and 3+4 and Intellicharger 1+3 and 2+4 for combined loading. This means when you put two batteries in channel 1+3 or 2+4 as shown in your video, Interllicharger will charge them with 750mA while Intellicharger will charge them with only 375mA. That's because Interllicharger becomes hotter in your test. If you had put them in channel 1+2 or 3+4, Interllicharger had charged them with only 375mA and became cooler than Intellicharger (charging at 750mA in this case).
Hmm just looked one of these up, think I'm gonna get one. Thanks for showing it. It charges all kinds of batteries right, how does it fit the different size batteries?~ Anyway, cool product. I've recently got into flashlights more, I still prefer having a tiny mini flashlight for backup/survival kit and small/medium size EDC one.
For the heat problem you can just put it stand on a side (it will make a better air flow, seem stupid but can make a difference)). Anyway to test it properly you need at last a "battery computer" able to charge completely your batteries (also able to tell you exactly how much mA the batteries got each one at full charge), discharge, and then charge them with the "intellicharge" again and compare the result. I did something like that with the "I4", it charge the "18650" at 76%, no way...
Battery pack in the aircrafts are catching fire because of defective electronic circuits like the ones in these chargers. It let battery to charge with too high current or voltage. But never because of heat generated during voltage transformation. The hardest plastics gets soft around 250C Paper will ignite about the same temperature. If plastics are still hard and u can touch it it is safe. regards
I got myself a Xtar charger for my 18650 accu (for my pd35). It can charge with 0.5A 1.0A and 2.0A. So it can do a fast charge or a slow charge. I use 1.0A to save accu life but I'm really pleased with it.
I have jetbeam i4 and nitecore i4 but gave nitecore i4 away, no worry about jetbeam i4 being hot because I use a mini USB fan to cool it down while charging...
I cannot believe in Chinese electric products because they don't seem like being made under the produst liability law. Almost all flashlights are made in China but they are used outdoors in low voltage, while the chargers take high voltage from our house electricity. Some Boeing plane took fire from its battey charging system and I am anxious about the same thing at home. So I cannot leave them unattended. Thanks.
lol @ Le-spor-deee-sac Your are my favorite reviewer on CZcams, very informative and entertaining! I couldnt agree more on the Made in China junk, for high end stuff like knives and safety like rechargeable batteries (eneloops) I go with US or Japan made.
I tested the "Intellicharge I4" (hearly when it popped out) and it work like other "multi charger"; it never make "full charge" (100%) any battery (it is a "battery destroyer"). I own it, i don' t use it. Hope the new one you got work better (but i do not plan to buy it, i got my hope lost so many time with multichargers; now i will wait until someone else will test it).
Batteries are old technology..Use chemicals. Tempramental memory. Heavy and toxic. Secret is..Free Power! (but they don't want that) Thanks Wako. Take care,
Europe 220V/50Hz, USA 120V/60Hz ... Voltage by plug type here: iec.ch/worldplugs/typeA I was lazy to check, but every battery has something like max charging current, but optimal is never max ... so battery has 1000 charging cycles lifetime ... with slower u can reach 800 or more with faster sometimes 400 and even less. This was just example. Basically as lower current as better for battery life ... depends of type of batt etc ...
what's your opinion on those trustfire batteries? I ordered some Soshine 18650 3400 from a Chinese seller and got those trustfire instead. They look like they're better quality then the blue ultrafire but since it seems like you use those more, I would like your opinion before deciding on to send them back or not. Thanks
I am thinking that at least one of your chargers may be defective. I run two nitecore I4s to charge 18650 cells for camp flashlights. I haven't had any problems yet in over one year of use. I also find my chargers will fully charge faster than the times you have found. Is it possible the cycles of your electricity differ from USA electricity and that may explain the over heating and length of charge. Good idea to evaluate the chargers.
Isnt that the 2nd gen nitecore i4? It used to be faster at charging in the first gen but had issues so they slowed the current down for the second gen.
NiteCore charger is limited charger. Nitecore CAN NOT charging NiMH AA Batery. But Jetbeam charger, can charging NiMH AA Batery (i think NiCD can too) Remember this if u have AA Batery NiMH.
It's pretty obvious that he was showing the difference between a knock-off and a brand name item. The conclusion is that the newer higher current charger is not a cheap Chinese knock-off like the bag is. You see the connection?
It's no problem. I hate them as well. The People's Republic of China is dominated by selfish communists. Only its naming sounds democraticl. They are actually not.
I am continually amazed at your ability to review items. Some seemingly benign aspects of an item are discovered and addressed with an unusual breadth of knowledge about function and materials. I am accustomed to it with knives and even flashlights but here is yet another example of thoroughness and intelligence. I thoroughly enjoyed this review. Oh, and I laughed out loud at the LeSportsac review...made my morning.Thank you.
Thank you for making this test review for these battery chargers. It is very informative for me to decide which charger to buy.
これらの充電器のためのこのテストのレビューを作成していただきありがとうございます。私が購入している充電器を決定することは非常に有益である。
Their is a difference in the maximum OUTPUT current between the two chargers (that is clear from the labels on the back).
Intellichatger gives a current of 0.375 A.
InteRllicharger gives a current of 0.500 A.
For the same voltage(4.2).
Nice comparison, thank you. I use the Pila IBC 4-stage Intelligent charger for my 18650 and 16340 batteries and i t always completes in under 4 hours without getting hot. I like it very much, it's very useful and cost around $45.00
You had me laughing hysterically when you said "Chinese crappy copy".
Slow charging batteries usually is better for the batteries. It would be interesting to see if the batteries charged in the Jetbeam hold a charge as long as those charged in the NiteCore.
The ideal charge current for li-ion batteries is 0.7C with 0.1C variations depending on the manufacturer.
For the bag part it's "le sport sac", meaning the sport bag. It's french. And thanks for the video, everytimes I get a chinese counterpart it is crap. I should always get the original one. Even if it's a little bit more expensive.
Hi Wako.
I have the NiteCore and here in israel is 240 V / 60 Hz.
I have a 3100 mAh Panasonic's 18650 batterys and their charging time is about 5-6 hours,I'm not draining the battery to the end as you did for the test So I guess that has taken a long time charging.
I had lots of Chargers, but I love the nitecore than any other,It is great that charging is slow
And the charger does not warm so the batteries do not run out quickly, fast charging is not good for the life of the batteries.
You are very correct. I didn't know that. My test went with each output. Thank you!
You all know Nitecore and Jetbeam is the same company. Good review
From a passing glance, the circuits are more or less the same, just a different layout, and the new one seems to have larger main capacitors, and fewer banks of ceramic capacitors, probably more reliable, higher temperature components.
Im using a Interllicharger I2 Pro from Jetbeam, no hot, no problems for 1 year 24/7 constant use! charge anything type of cylindrical battery. Output max 4,2v @500ma x2 batteryss, or 1,4v @ 750ma x 2 batterys, nice review, its very hard to identify fakes!
I'm a new subscriber. Love your channel... funny, but informative.
My NiteCore charges 2 - 18650 batteries in about 3-4 hrs. Not sure what batteries you had there. Faster is not always better, I wounder if they both got the same amount of charge. Too much heat over time tends to do damage to electronics, for some reason it tends to let the smoke out of resistors....Not good :-} Thanks for sharing this and Take Care :-))
Sysmax company is a LED flashlight manufacturer ,owning JET-Beam and NITECORE brand.
It's not about if it's made in China, but the specifications followed to build it. Remember Iphones are made in China but they follow specs and certifications. Also the designs are good.
ONLY copies have that problem or low grade products, you can get high quality stuff from china if you request it and pay for it.
I was laughing so hard when you compared the knock off bag to the real bag. I wonder, in all seriousness, why these companies can't make a quality charger that is safe to leave unattended? I hate cheap stuff!
Actually jetbeam and sysmax worked together at nitecore brand, but some time, jetbeam split and produced his own chargers that was developed together with sysmax, both are good chargers. Big UP man!
Was thinking of getting the Nitecore version as I'm about to get a new fenix...... might be interesting to use a meter on the cells when they have been full charged on each model to see the actual output.
You're wrong, both chargers have nearly the same circuit and charge with the same current. Only difference: Interllicharger uses channel 1+2 and 3+4 and Intellicharger 1+3 and 2+4 for combined loading. This means when you put two batteries in channel 1+3 or 2+4 as shown in your video, Interllicharger will charge them with 750mA while Intellicharger will charge them with only 375mA. That's because Interllicharger becomes hotter in your test. If you had put them in channel 1+2 or 3+4, Interllicharger had charged them with only 375mA and became cooler than Intellicharger (charging at 750mA in this case).
I love your accent and your thoughts! U r the best.
PowerEx MH-C9000 WizardOne is one of the best. Ansmann and Voltcraft chargers are very good too.
I suspect that a lower current is better for the battery life as well. More charge/discharge cycles.
Hmm just looked one of these up, think I'm gonna get one. Thanks for showing it. It charges all kinds of batteries right, how does it fit the different size batteries?~ Anyway, cool product. I've recently got into flashlights more, I still prefer having a tiny mini flashlight for backup/survival kit and small/medium size EDC one.
So much faster charger also makes your batt die younger :-D
For the heat problem you can just put it stand on a side (it will make a better air flow, seem stupid but can make a difference)). Anyway to test it properly you need at last a "battery computer" able to charge completely your batteries (also able to tell you exactly how much mA the batteries got each one at full charge), discharge, and then charge them with the "intellicharge" again and compare the result.
I did something like that with the "I4", it charge the "18650" at 76%, no way...
Battery pack in the aircrafts are catching fire because
of defective electronic circuits like the ones in these chargers.
It let battery to charge with too high current or voltage.
But never because of heat generated during voltage transformation. The hardest plastics gets soft around 250C
Paper will ignite about the same temperature. If plastics are still
hard and u can touch it it is safe. regards
I got myself a Xtar charger for my 18650 accu (for my pd35). It can charge with 0.5A 1.0A and 2.0A. So it can do a fast charge or a slow charge. I use 1.0A to save accu life but I'm really pleased with it.
So does the xtar charger charge each battery at 1 amp or does it split the current like the I4?
Justin Verhoff
I'm not 100% sure but I've done some measurements with charging time etc. And it looks like it gives both batteries 1000 mAH
Love your accent and pronunciation of words ^_^.
I have jetbeam i4 and nitecore i4 but gave nitecore i4 away, no worry about jetbeam i4 being hot because I use a mini USB fan to cool it down while charging...
Yeah, I'm not sure these were designed to be used outside the US voltage ranges :(
Thank you for the video, you do a wonderful job.
Great review.
I cannot believe in Chinese electric products because they don't seem like being made under the produst liability law. Almost all flashlights are made in China but they are used outdoors in low voltage, while the chargers take high voltage from our house electricity. Some Boeing plane took fire from its battey charging system and I am anxious about the same thing at home. So I cannot leave them unattended. Thanks.
lol @ Le-spor-deee-sac
Your are my favorite reviewer on CZcams, very informative and entertaining! I couldnt agree more on the Made in China junk, for high end stuff like knives and safety like rechargeable batteries (eneloops) I go with US or Japan made.
I use my nite core tiny monster 26 to charge 4, 18650's works great :)
I tested the "Intellicharge I4" (hearly when it popped out) and it work like other "multi charger"; it never make "full charge" (100%) any battery (it is a "battery destroyer"). I own it, i don' t use it.
Hope the new one you got work better (but i do not plan to buy it, i got my hope lost so many time with multichargers; now i will wait until someone else will test it).
Batteries are old technology..Use chemicals. Tempramental memory. Heavy and toxic.
Secret is..Free Power! (but they don't want that) Thanks Wako. Take care,
Europe 220V/50Hz, USA 120V/60Hz ...
Voltage by plug type here:
iec.ch/worldplugs/typeA
I was lazy to check, but every battery
has something like max charging current,
but optimal is never max ... so battery has
1000 charging cycles lifetime ... with slower
u can reach 800 or more with faster sometimes
400 and even less. This was just example.
Basically as lower current as better for
battery life ... depends of type of batt etc ...
what's your opinion on those trustfire batteries? I ordered some Soshine 18650 3400 from a Chinese seller and got those trustfire instead. They look like they're better quality then the blue ultrafire but since it seems like you use those more, I would like your opinion before deciding on to send them back or not. Thanks
I am thinking that at least one of your chargers may be defective. I run two nitecore I4s to charge 18650 cells for camp flashlights. I haven't had any problems yet in over one year of use. I also find my chargers will fully charge faster than the times you have found. Is it possible the cycles of your electricity differ from USA electricity and that may explain the over heating and length of charge. Good idea to evaluate the chargers.
Isnt that the 2nd gen nitecore i4? It used to be faster at charging in the first gen but had issues so they slowed the current down for the second gen.
Your English is very good.
What's the point if you can only charge 2 batteries at a time. I run a goal zero charger it works very well
excellent review :)
Seems the original charger has more filtering and better quality parts. I don't like the power supply of the copy one.
I vote Nitecore i4,...slower charge is better for the battery.
What flashlights do you show us at 7:55?
We have 100V 50hz electricity. I guess you have 200V. Thanks.
NiteCore charger is limited charger. Nitecore CAN NOT charging NiMH AA Batery.
But Jetbeam charger, can charging NiMH AA Batery (i think NiCD can too)
Remember this if u have AA Batery NiMH.
+MERAH DELIMA u are correct i have the jetbeam and it charges NiMH AA.
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But Nitecore Digi2 can charge Li-Ion, NiMH and NiCD :)
google Ansmann Energy 8 Plus battery charger. That's the solution to your battery charging needs.
cut some cooling slots on the top of the charger and it will let out the heat!
wrong. Jetbeam isn't member anymore of Sysmax.
wtf was with the little hand bag you showed at the end?
It's pretty obvious that he was showing the difference between a knock-off and a brand name item. The conclusion is that the newer higher current charger is not a cheap Chinese knock-off like the bag is. You see the connection?
Lol! We'll said.
*You must go, leave shanghai*
I'm always afraid that Chinese made electronics are going to burn our house down. I don't have much faith in them.
It's no problem. I hate them as well. The People's Republic of China is dominated by selfish communists. Only its naming sounds democraticl. They are actually not.
LOL