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Hey man! We need a grand 4080 v 3080 v 4070 v 3070ti for the higher tier gamers and a 4060 v 3060 v 4050 v 3050ti for us budget bois. Thanks for the amazing work you're doing! 👏
I've been watching you for more than 2 years now, and it's safe to say that no one even comes close to you when it comes to laptop reviews. Dude is really dominating laptop reviews all over CZcams.
i used to think all gaming laptop were the same, and i regret buying my old laptop, recently i started watched his video and got a good laptop with competitive pricing and no regret at all.
The 4050 vs the 3060 will be the real interesting comparison since in the US at least, you can find full wattage 3060 laptops for under $1000 pretty easily.
I've seen plenty of deals with 3050ti, 3060 with much higher tdp and sometimes amd 6700s under $1000 (sometimes a lot under) in the US. If you don't care about power usage, you might find one of those with better price and build.
@@emperor719 "these" results are of a 40W 4050. No one in their right minds will buy this laptop so this entire video is essentially useless. I'll wait to see some 80W 3050 vs 80W 4050 videos.
Your style of tech reviews should really be a standard So much information and very well paced I've been watching you for years now, you helped decide to get my legion 5 pro 2021 Thanks!
I’m not really in the market for a -50 series laptop, BUT I’m very thankful you cover the full gamut of budgets! So many channels are focused on the highest-end systems
@@JarrodsTech I set the alarm button not only here but phone also.. if you have an opportunity to review those gpus under unreal engine 5 , would you please add , thats very important for me thank you.thank you very much
Jarrod, you are the best laptop reviewer. You deserve all the subscribers you have garnered through the years. Thank you for the 3050 and 4050 comparison.
The 1% lows are very similar between them which means it's neck and neck when discussing smoothness, or in the case of 3050 and 4050, lack thereof. And using DLSS3 is anything but honest since the 4050 can barely hit 50fps without it, which means an 80fps framegen has over 15-20ms added latency making it a similar experience to playing games in last gen consoles.
DLSS3.0 is great to have though. Trust me if you had a 40 series card, your try it out and uts not a feature you'd want to give up. Sure you can live without it, but its just a "nice to have" feature
@@GregoryShtevensh the fact you can't grasp such a simple concept as the 4050 not having high enough baseline fps to make DLSS3 useful tells me you're either an AI spam bot or just refuse to let anyone say anything remotely negative about your pet brand, facts be damned. The 4050 barely musters enough fps with DLSS2 as it is so the added latency with DLSS3 will be a nightmare. At that point and level of gaming, one would be MUCH better off buying a steam deck, especially with the price hike on the low end this gen. The 4050 is indefensible for anyone with common sense.
@@jebusnazareth1869 I am not aware of the RTX 4050. I am only trained on information up to the 31/05/23. As of the 31/05/23 there is no record of existence of the RTX 4050. Would you like to ask something else?
Feels like the 4050 is the best candidate for frame gen + dlss use in the 40 series laptops since it usually ends up in the dlss sweet spot of 40-60 fps and frame gen takes it up to 100. A serious consideration for an entry level 40 series laptop if it wasnt priced so poorly compared to previous gen entry levels
@@RyomaE28 I think he meant that you need to hit 60 fps without frame generation to be worth it. That is why frame generation doesn't make much sense, you already need a good graphics card to be able to truly get the benefits. There is a video about fg that talks about this.
@@GESSIO26 above 60 I feel like why even use FG... you're not gaining anything.. only reason why people like more than 60 fps is the lower latency which will infact slightly increase with frame gen
It's weird how I'm addicted to watching your videos knowing for sure that I won't be able to afford these laptops anytime soon, or possibly ever. I think it says a lot about the videos themselves. I just enjoy watching you break down these things. It's like how I enjoy watching videos of $300 dollar meals such as Aden Films. I'll never be able to afford such food but I just love watching the videos.
Thanks Jarrod. Been a fan of your reviews always straight to the point and shows graphical comparison of more laptops. You are the reason why im confused what to buy since your review to all is great lol. Keep it up!
I have a comment to make. I sincerely appreciate all the hardwork you put in, and this is particularly why I think reviewing your testing methodology should be done from time to time. Since you say the average fps in all games graph is a compact way to see the performance differences easily, I want to point out that different games have different typical fps targets. E.g. in Cyberpunk 2077 it's cool to have 60 fps, but in CSGO or Apex Legends 120 fps might be a reasonable expectation. So carrying out an average of games for which the optimal fps targets widely vary is, I think, a poor way to do statistics. The suggestions I have (feel free to discuss) is to use a reference machine to find out fps for different games (data for which you will have available). This will give you an idea of the optimal target fps for different games. Now you can compare each new GPU to this target - obtain a ratio, for instance. Finally, you compare GPU 1 and GPU 2 ratios, which are the subjects of comparison in a particular video, and that I think respects the vast fps differences in games better.
Somehow, this guy knows the exactly when to release the content you need at the right times. I'm currently in the market for a new gaming laptop but on a fairly restricted budget & the highest I thought I could go as far as GPUs was the 3050ti. But if I manage to get a good deal on very specific 4050 powered laptops, I may have to save up some more & go that route instead. I appreciate the in depth comparisons as always even though I've never been a fan of MSI's budget options, one of my biggest gripes being the cooling solutions they opt for. Like, why would you equip a 4050 powered laptop with just a single fan & 1-2 vents. It forces them to have these low power limits & you don't really see the full potential of the GPU.
Great reviews, Jarod, keep them coming. Tried comparing the 4050 results to your 3060 vs 4060 review. 3060 will better but that was at 130w. Would love to see a 3050, 3060, 4050, to 4060 review comparison. Lots of overlap with different laptops pricewise with the different gpus. Do you think watt for watt, 4050 is like 3060? Better?
Kindly make a videos on how top of the line gaming laptops from 4-5 years ago/2-3 gen of GPU's ahead perform today. Would help alot in deciding if buying a 3K laptop for gaming isnt a dumb choice with how fast they are getting costlier with each new GPU lineups.
nice that it genuinely gets avg fps above the 60fps, price is a bit high though, and 1% lows are interesting to find the cause of, as that could offset the over 60fps smoothness.
6gb is not gonna cut it anymore for me even on portable given I'd like something which can be used with Stable Diffusion, which I think will be a necessity for creatives in the near future.
That cost per frame reveals there is no real leap between generations, not because technology hasn't advanced, but because of market choices. It's really disappointing to see only highest cost GPUs enjoying from the generation leap.
I'm glad that you can actually get the budget tier laptop this time around... As I remember, you are having a hard time getting the sweetspot budget laptops before (especially in 2020-2021). Keep up the good stuff man!
Oh you still bought them yourself? man, that's dedication... I hope you can find another buyer soon though. Thanks again for the insightful comparison info.
The review in detail and very high quality. I would recommend anyone looking to find out comparison between these two cards to watch this review and you will be able to better decide which one to go with
Thanks for the reply Yes, I did some searching and it seems the AMD 7040 cpus are delayed due to some bios issues, and add to the the restricted production batch for those cpus. Really interested in the new G14 from asus, those are one of the few released laptops with AMD cpus for this time being, the other laptop majority has switched to Intel
Loved your video! I was hesitant about only having 6GB of VRAM with my 4050/Acer Nitro 17. This baby RTX makes simple work of anything I play Cyberpunk, Battlefield 5, Counterstrike 2, Diablo 4 NFS Heat and more. Looks amazing, manages great temps and with DLSS I feel it has more future proofing. Liked and subbed!
What I conclude; If you have a 3050 laptop, you can stick with that, lower a few quality preset and still play almost all games around 60 fps. Going for a 4050 from a 3050 not worth. If you are buying a new laptop, forget aboıut 3050 and put some extra bucks for 4050. Great review as always.
Hey Jarrod,love your videos even now that I have my own laptop I wanted to ask if you'd be interested in a less known boutique brand called Monster,my laptop is from them and it's a very good laptop
I think they resell Clevo/Tongfang, so I probably already cover the same stuf as XMG/Eluktronics/Aftershock. I probably won't get anything from that specific brand though, as they have no presence in my country.
Question: is it still worth it buying an rtx 3050 for, say, the next 5 years? I'm currently conflicted whether to stick with a 3050 for budget concerns or go with at least a 4050 for some future-proofing. Main use will be for game developmeng work, gaming, and just day-to-day use. I also travel a lot so some portability is great.
I'm planning on buying my first gaming laptop. Which do you prefer, asus tuf a15 with ryzen 7 6800hs and rtx 3050, or asus tuf a15 with ryzen 7 7735hs and rtx 4050, or lenovo ideapad gaming 3 with ryzen 7 5800h and rtx 3060? The one with rtx 4050 cost more than the 3050 and 3060 around 160$-180$ in my country. Hope you can help me decide. I've been researching and still can't decide. This probably will be my laptop for 5-10yrs. My budget is only a little over 1100$
40w version is more suitable for a entry level thin and light creator laptop like Acer swift X or Asus vivobook And this kind of laptop usually comes with a very good looking screen So if I'm going to buy a 40w 4050, I'm more likely to buy a vivobook, instead of a gaming laptop 🤔🤔🤔
I think you should make a video about dlss in laptops and vram issues and how dlss vs fsr deals with gameplay and images and show that how exactly 1080 gaming on ultra must have as min like Hardware unboxed
There should be a few comparisons when you're running games with high population like Planetside 2 during a 96+ battle, just bring both starting characters into the fight looking in the same direction.
Hi Jarrod, Should I buy Legion 5 pro gen 7 RTX3070 ryzen 7 6800h or wait for Legion Pro 5i rtx 4070 i7 13th gen. I still don't know when it will launch in india.
Hello, I've been watching some videos on which laptop is better that I can buy. I have come across so much information that my thoughts are blocked on which one should I buy. I watched a few of your videos, too, and i know you're more helpful when you pick one from these two laptops for me: ASUS ROG Strix G 15.6in R7 16GB 512GB RTX3050 Gaming Laptop OR ASUS TUF F15 15.6in i5 8GB 512GB RTX3050Ti Gaming Laptop? It would help me a lot if you could tell me which one to buy, Thank you.
Disappointing to see the poor 1% lows that matters more in terms of smoothness than average fps in someways. I think it would mostly be due to the smaller memory interface
hello sir jarrod, do you have any extra potato laptop not being used, ill just use it for my work and convert it into an emulator for low end games... thanks
To be honest, considering that I don't use ray tracing and i don't really care about it, my msi gl75 with full powered rtx2070 does much better than lower tier gaming laptops. I think I'd rather wait another year before upgrading. 80 fps is sweet spot in my case although i get 120fps in modern warfare II benchmark
I'm freaking confused for the last couple of weeks. I'm willing to buy Legion 7 Gen 7 AMD Advantage. It has Ryzen 9 6900HX, Radeon RX6850M XT 12 GB Graphic card, 32 gb ram, 2 TB SSD. It now costs around 2180 USD (previously it was 2800). Will it be better than 3070ti? or will this gpu equally perform with RTX 4070? And will it be good enough for solid content creation? please give me a reply.
The RTX 6850M XT is significantly faster than the RTX 3070 Ti and RTX 4070 laptop GPUs overall, especially at 1080p, but slower at ray tracing (except in games that need more than 8GB VRAM, where the 6850M XT will still be faster), and does not support DLSS (so is not as good if you want to play at 4K in games that support DLSS). The 6850M XT is about as fast as an RTX 3080 Ti laptop GPU at 1080p (though slower at 1440p and 4K). However, I don't think this laptop is worth more than $2000. You may be able to buy a similar laptop with less RAM and storage, and then upgrade them yourself. This is often a lot cheaper than buying a laptop with more RAM and storage preinstalled. Laptops with a Ryzen 7 6800H or Ryzen 9 6900HS and RX 6800M are only about 5% slower than laptops with the 6900HX and 6850M XT, but sometimes much cheaper, and use slightly less power. There's a Corsair Voyager A1600 with a 6800M, 6900HS, 32GB RAM, a 2TB SSD, and a 240Hz screen on Newegg for only $1900. It does have slightly worse brighness than the Legion though, so isn't as good for content creation or watching HDR content, but it should be about equivalent for gaming overall, or even better for competitive/high-refresh-rate gaming.
The issue with the 4050 laptop is that it its CPU. It has an Intel Core i5-12450H, which has 4P and 4E cores. The 3050 laptop has an older i5 with what are effectively 6P cores, so... I find it hard to choose any of these laptops personally for gaming 😅
I want to buy Asus Vivobook pro 15 with RTX 4050 6GB and Intel i7, mostly for programming and networking, also for gaming, is that laptop with those specs good for gaming even that its not gaming laptop? Thank you✌️
Good day, please tell me which one is better between these two laptops??? ASUS ROG Strix G17 G713QR (G713QR-K4009) rtx 3070 ASUS ROG Strix G17 G713PV (G713PV-LL043) rtx 4060 Thank you, otherwise I can't choose the best between these two models, in one Rtx4060, in another Rtx3070, what is better to take for 2k games????
Is it better to get a laptop with 32 gb ram and rtx 3050 graphics or a laptop with 16 gb ram and rtx 4050 graphics, assuming they both cost the same. And each has a 1TB hard drive?
Jarod why are you holding reviews on the Ryzen 7945HX? Other laptop reviewers are onto them long time ago, you are on the top of laptop reviewers, feels weird that you haven't said anything on those CPUs...
Because we only got it about a week ago and are just getting started on it. There is an enormous amount of work, and it's not a priority for us until we get the 13980HX in the Scar 18 back so that we can do a comparison.
Yes, I am completely surprised it's other superb features.. ( WOW! AN INTRO GPU CARD WITH DECENT 6GB GRAPHICS MEMORY, THANKS NVIDIA).. actually Mitigated it's meh performance and put 3050 to shame. I have a RTX 3050 TI with MSi entry gaming laptop, it has performed excellent and past its price point. Got it in 10/23/22.
It is funny how all reviewers fancy frame generation, like its a base feature and not just supported by a handful new titles, those titles each cost like 5-10% of the laptops price lol...
It's also funny how comments like this happily ignore the fact that I always specify that it's only available in a handful of games, the point is it will presumably grow and get bigger over time like DLSS. Same thing happened there.
@@JarrodsTech Yes, I know you do, yet still many commenters do not seem to understand that is not a base 4xxx class driver feature and 99.99% games will not support it. But yeah the low-mid category in laptop chips is the best "benefiter" for it for sure.
frame generation is a real improvement... too bard Nvidia kept it as a marketing technique to get people to buy 40 series, it is a piece of software that can easily be adapted to any series including GTX perhaps I would say
Wow, the fans and heatsinks on both of these laptops are scary. Compared to another gaming laptop, they usually have 2 fans and a massive heatsink. My Lenovo Legion 5I 15imh05h 8y6000dus runs the coolest out of any gaming laptop I've ever used to tested. But, it has 2 fans on each side and a massive heatsink. These 2 laptops look like they run super hot!
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4060 vs 3070ti what to choose
Hey man! We need a grand 4080 v 3080 v 4070 v 3070ti for the higher tier gamers and a 4060 v 3060 v 4050 v 3050ti for us budget bois. Thanks for the amazing work you're doing! 👏
Please 4060 vs 3070ti I’m begging 😭
4050 vs 3060 100w please
This is the most interesting comparison :b
Can’t wait for the 5050, which will have a 50/50 chance that it’ll be able to run games. Truly revolutionary.
5050 will be the real jump. It’ll finally render the “low end” really powerful, especially on older games.
It will promise a +50% increase and deliver +10% for a 50% price increase - it's the Nvidia way!
@@Anderson_999 No way! what a deal! must buy!
@@khmayu2377 笑 笑
when will rtx 5050 come out?
I've been watching you for more than 2 years now, and it's safe to say that no one even comes close to you when it comes to laptop reviews. Dude is really dominating laptop reviews all over CZcams.
Hey thanks!
true
i used to think all gaming laptop were the same, and i regret buying my old laptop, recently i started watched his video and got a good laptop with competitive pricing and no regret at all.
For me that my mother tongue is not English,the way he speaks is so easy to understand,although he speaks rather fast😊
Fact 💯
No intros, straight to the point.... I love this guy, been a fan of these review since 2017
Thanks!
if only girls would have the same mindset like u
The 4050 vs the 3060 will be the real interesting comparison since in the US at least, you can find full wattage 3060 laptops for under $1000 pretty easily.
What would interest me, is the comparison between the 4050 vs 3060 because these two seem pretty similar on paper and the pricing is comparable to
its pretty close, really depends on the tdp.. 4050 is more efficient so a same tdp 4050 would beat 3060
seeing these results i dont think RTX 4050 would beat 3060 its far slower
I've seen plenty of deals with 3050ti, 3060 with much higher tdp and sometimes amd 6700s under $1000 (sometimes a lot under) in the US. If you don't care about power usage, you might find one of those with better price and build.
4050 is similar to 2060. 3060 is better about 20%
@@emperor719 "these" results are of a 40W 4050. No one in their right minds will buy this laptop so this entire video is essentially useless. I'll wait to see some 80W 3050 vs 80W 4050 videos.
Your style of tech reviews should really be a standard
So much information and very well paced
I've been watching you for years now, you helped decide to get my legion 5 pro 2021
Thanks!
Sure Nvidia, a laptop RTX 4050 can use DLSS 3.0 technology, but a desktop RTX 3090 ti can't...................................
its like, would you be the king of 1000years old african jungle civilization vs a peasant of current generation
@@lordespion8789 Generational difference is not that big bro
@@rishan_sir i know, I was just saying
I’m not really in the market for a -50 series laptop, BUT I’m very thankful you cover the full gamut of budgets! So many channels are focused on the highest-end systems
I would like to know how it compares to Laptop RTX3060...since both got 6GB VRAM.
That comparison is coming in 2 weeks! Both laptops at 140W.
@@JarrodsTech I set the alarm button not only here but phone also.. if you have an opportunity to review those gpus under unreal engine 5 , would you please add , thats very important for me thank you.thank you very much
@@JarrodsTech yesss and please do a comparison using dlss3 fram gen to see the full potential of 40 series vs 3060
Jarrod, you are the best laptop reviewer.
You deserve all the subscribers you have garnered through the years. Thank you for the 3050 and 4050 comparison.
The 1% lows are very concerning. When they aren’t any better it basically makes the fps feel the same even if the average is much higher
Low 1% is the a feature this gen, even the 4070 has worse than the 3070.
4P core CPU is the culprit.
@@zzavatski 6-8p cores didn't fixed with the 4070.
@@zzavatski Nah it's the pathetic 96-bit bus width for the 4050 and generally cut-down memory bus for cards below the 4080 that's lowering 1% lows.
That's the CPU difference. The benchmark comparison is not very good since the entire system other than the GPU is different.
At least the new 4050 laptops seem to come with 16GB or ram and 500GB SSD. That nitro 5 looks like great value.
The 1% lows are very similar between them which means it's neck and neck when discussing smoothness, or in the case of 3050 and 4050, lack thereof. And using DLSS3 is anything but honest since the 4050 can barely hit 50fps without it, which means an 80fps framegen has over 15-20ms added latency making it a similar experience to playing games in last gen consoles.
DLSS3.0 is great to have though.
Trust me if you had a 40 series card, your try it out and uts not a feature you'd want to give up. Sure you can live without it, but its just a "nice to have" feature
In Cyberpunk the 4050 lows were nearly as good as the 3050 highs and that was before dlss3.0 was enabled
@@GregoryShtevensh the fact you can't grasp such a simple concept as the 4050 not having high enough baseline fps to make DLSS3 useful tells me you're either an AI spam bot or just refuse to let anyone say anything remotely negative about your pet brand, facts be damned. The 4050 barely musters enough fps with DLSS2 as it is so the added latency with DLSS3 will be a nightmare. At that point and level of gaming, one would be MUCH better off buying a steam deck, especially with the price hike on the low end this gen. The 4050 is indefensible for anyone with common sense.
@@jebusnazareth1869 I am not aware of the RTX 4050. I am only trained on information up to the 31/05/23. As of the 31/05/23 there is no record of existence of the RTX 4050.
Would you like to ask something else?
Used 40w comparison video, complains about the 1% low. What a joke.
Feels like the 4050 is the best candidate for frame gen + dlss use in the 40 series laptops since it usually ends up in the dlss sweet spot of 40-60 fps and frame gen takes it up to 100.
A serious consideration for an entry level 40 series laptop if it wasnt priced so poorly compared to previous gen entry levels
Nah, frame generation is a win more thing, you need a good framerate from the start for it to actually be smooth, sub 60 probably won't feel good.
@@metamon2704 which is why dlss on sub 60 taking it to 60+ and then frame gen wld be ideal
@@RyomaE28 I think he meant that you need to hit 60 fps without frame generation to be worth it. That is why frame generation doesn't make much sense, you already need a good graphics card to be able to truly get the benefits. There is a video about fg that talks about this.
@@GESSIO26 above 60 I feel like why even use FG... you're not gaining anything.. only reason why people like more than 60 fps is the lower latency which will infact slightly increase with frame gen
I think dlss in 1080p is still not good enough, in cyberpunk even quality dlss has some obvious ghosting when I move the mouse around.
It's weird how I'm addicted to watching your videos knowing for sure that I won't be able to afford these laptops anytime soon, or possibly ever.
I think it says a lot about the videos themselves. I just enjoy watching you break down these things.
It's like how I enjoy watching videos of $300 dollar meals such as Aden Films. I'll never be able to afford such food but I just love watching the videos.
Thanks Jarrod. Been a fan of your reviews always straight to the point and shows graphical comparison of more laptops. You are the reason why im confused what to buy since your review to all is great lol. Keep it up!
I have a comment to make. I sincerely appreciate all the hardwork you put in, and this is particularly why I think reviewing your testing methodology should be done from time to time.
Since you say the average fps in all games graph is a compact way to see the performance differences easily, I want to point out that different games have different typical fps targets. E.g. in Cyberpunk 2077 it's cool to have 60 fps, but in CSGO or Apex Legends 120 fps might be a reasonable expectation. So carrying out an average of games for which the optimal fps targets widely vary is, I think, a poor way to do statistics.
The suggestions I have (feel free to discuss) is to use a reference machine to find out fps for different games (data for which you will have available). This will give you an idea of the optimal target fps for different games. Now you can compare each new GPU to this target - obtain a ratio, for instance. Finally, you compare GPU 1 and GPU 2 ratios, which are the subjects of comparison in a particular video, and that I think respects the vast fps differences in games better.
Or he could just use percentages to compare 25 games average instead of fps.
shut up
The 3050 will probably be the new 1650 of the 40 series generation
Yeah I doubt they will get rid of it when the 4050 starts at $1000 USD.
They upsized the vram tho, 6 gb vram rtx 3050, nitro 16 Philippines
it probably costs them 20$ for the silicon as well
then what rtx2050 would be?
@@JarrodsTech lol
The video I have been waiting for since the introduction of 40 series laptops
It took a while to get the right laptops to do this as fairly as possible, sorry!
@@JarrodsTech That's ok. Glad you did it as fast as you could.
The fact that 3050 has a higher memory bandwidth 128 but bus compared to 96 bit of 4050 shows it in total war Warhammer which is bandwidth intensive
Somehow, this guy knows the exactly when to release the content you need at the right times. I'm currently in the market for a new gaming laptop but on a fairly restricted budget & the highest I thought I could go as far as GPUs was the 3050ti. But if I manage to get a good deal on very specific 4050 powered laptops, I may have to save up some more & go that route instead. I appreciate the in depth comparisons as always even though I've never been a fan of MSI's budget options, one of my biggest gripes being the cooling solutions they opt for.
Like, why would you equip a 4050 powered laptop with just a single fan & 1-2 vents. It forces them to have these low power limits & you don't really see the full potential of the GPU.
Same price. Rtx 3050 and 1tb ssd or rtx 4050 and 512gb ssd. Which one would you prefer?
(I will study computer engineering)
What laptop ?
Jarrod please make a 4090m vs 4080m, the price jump from the 4080m to 4090m is huge. We need to know if it's nearly as reasonable.
It's on the to-do list, the list is just massive!
Great reviews, Jarod, keep them coming. Tried comparing the 4050 results to your 3060 vs 4060 review. 3060 will better but that was at 130w. Would love to see a 3050, 3060, 4050, to 4060 review comparison. Lots of overlap with different laptops pricewise with the different gpus.
Do you think watt for watt, 4050 is like 3060? Better?
Kindly make a videos on how top of the line gaming laptops from 4-5 years ago/2-3 gen of GPU's ahead perform today. Would help alot in deciding if buying a 3K laptop for gaming isnt a dumb choice with how fast they are getting costlier with each new GPU lineups.
I don't have the hardware to go back that far anymore.
nice that it genuinely gets avg fps above the 60fps, price is a bit high though, and 1% lows are interesting to find the cause of, as that could offset the over 60fps smoothness.
6gb is not gonna cut it anymore for me even on portable given I'd like something which can be used with Stable Diffusion, which I think will be a necessity for creatives in the near future.
This was amazing. Nice to see the power jump, especially with the lower TDP.
Next: 3060 vs 4050
That cost per frame reveals there is no real leap between generations, not because technology hasn't advanced, but because of market choices.
It's really disappointing to see only highest cost GPUs enjoying from the generation leap.
I'm glad that you can actually get the budget tier laptop this time around... As I remember, you are having a hard time getting the sweetspot budget laptops before (especially in 2020-2021).
Keep up the good stuff man!
I had to buy both of these laptops. MSI wouldn't send either. So, it seems to be that if I want budget options I'll just have to buy them myself.
Oh you still bought them yourself? man, that's dedication... I hope you can find another buyer soon though. Thanks again for the insightful comparison info.
The review in detail and very high quality. I would recommend anyone looking to find out comparison between these two cards to watch this review and you will be able to better decide which one to go with
Hey! Does anybody have an idea when the new Asus G14 2023, the ones with AMD 7040 cpus, are going to be released?
Seems to be delayed like most Zen 4 laptops, not sure when.
Didn't Asus shift to Intel cpu in g series this year ??
Thanks for the reply Yes, I did some searching and it seems the AMD 7040 cpus are delayed due to some bios issues, and add to the the restricted production batch for those cpus. Really interested in the new G14 from asus, those are one of the few released laptops with AMD cpus for this time being, the other laptop majority has switched to Intel
Loved your video! I was hesitant about only having 6GB of VRAM with my 4050/Acer Nitro 17. This baby RTX makes simple work of anything I play
Cyberpunk, Battlefield 5, Counterstrike 2, Diablo 4 NFS Heat and more. Looks amazing, manages great temps and with DLSS I feel it has more future proofing. Liked and subbed!
What I conclude;
If you have a 3050 laptop, you can stick with that, lower a few quality preset and still play almost all games around 60 fps.
Going for a 4050 from a 3050 not worth.
If you are buying a new laptop, forget aboıut 3050 and put some extra bucks for 4050.
Great review as always.
4050 vs 3060 is going to be an interesting one, i think the difference will be marginal
Hey Jarrod,love your videos even now that I have my own laptop
I wanted to ask if you'd be interested in a less known boutique brand called Monster,my laptop is from them and it's a very good laptop
I think they resell Clevo/Tongfang, so I probably already cover the same stuf as XMG/Eluktronics/Aftershock. I probably won't get anything from that specific brand though, as they have no presence in my country.
Ultra thin or thin laptop with this GPU will be a really good deal.
Very thorough review Jarrod. Thankyou.
Hi Jarrod! Do you suggest these videocards for Adobe Master collection products, like Photoshop, Premier Pro or After Effects?
4050 seems nice for sure however 6GB is definitely going to be a problem and also maybe 96 bit bus as well
Question: is it still worth it buying an rtx 3050 for, say, the next 5 years? I'm currently conflicted whether to stick with a 3050 for budget concerns or go with at least a 4050 for some future-proofing.
Main use will be for game developmeng work, gaming, and just day-to-day use. I also travel a lot so some portability is great.
I'd probably go with the 4050, at least then you also have DLSS3 and Frame Gen
@@JarrodsTech I see. I guess it's worth it to cash out a bit more for a 4050. Thank you!
What's better rtx 3050 32gb or rtx 4050 16gb ?
U should have made a comparison of RTX 3050 95w and RTX 4050 45w as both comes at same price range.
4050 is better u pumpkin
I'm planning on buying my first gaming laptop. Which do you prefer, asus tuf a15 with ryzen 7 6800hs and rtx 3050, or asus tuf a15 with ryzen 7 7735hs and rtx 4050, or lenovo ideapad gaming 3 with ryzen 7 5800h and rtx 3060? The one with rtx 4050 cost more than the 3050 and 3060 around 160$-180$ in my country. Hope you can help me decide. I've been researching and still can't decide. This probably will be my laptop for 5-10yrs. My budget is only a little over 1100$
How do you find out the GPU Watt before buying a gaming pc?
when new TUF video? I'm torn between 3070 and 4050 17'' TUF but need more reviews to make a decision.
40w version is more suitable for a entry level thin and light creator laptop like Acer swift X or Asus vivobook
And this kind of laptop usually comes with a very good looking screen
So if I'm going to buy a 40w 4050, I'm more likely to buy a vivobook, instead of a gaming laptop 🤔🤔🤔
You can, and you will still have the same performance since creator laptops can cool a 45W GPU.
WOW
What a comprehensive test.
Literally nullified the need to watch multiple channels to find out different mainstream games' performance
I think you should make a video about dlss in laptops and vram issues and how dlss vs fsr deals with gameplay and images and show that how exactly 1080 gaming on ultra must have as min like Hardware unboxed
Are you going to review the G16 anytime soon?
Should i buy 12450 h with 4050 or 13450hx with 3050
There should be a few comparisons when you're running games with high population like Planetside 2 during a 96+ battle, just bring both starting characters into the fight looking in the same direction.
what app did you use to cap the power consumption?
Gussa I am going to buy my first laptop which gpu should I go for 3050 or 4050?
Hi Jarrod, Should I buy Legion 5 pro gen 7 RTX3070 ryzen 7 6800h or wait for Legion Pro 5i rtx 4070 i7 13th gen. I still don't know when it will launch in india.
Hello, I've been watching some videos on which laptop is better that I can buy. I have come across so much information that my thoughts are blocked on which one should I buy. I watched a few of your videos, too, and i know you're more helpful when you pick one from these two laptops for me:
ASUS ROG Strix G 15.6in R7 16GB 512GB RTX3050 Gaming Laptop OR ASUS TUF F15 15.6in i5 8GB 512GB RTX3050Ti Gaming Laptop?
It would help me a lot if you could tell me which one to buy, Thank you.
Disappointing to see the poor 1% lows that matters more in terms of smoothness than average fps in someways. I think it would mostly be due to the smaller memory interface
Is it worth getting the 3050 in 2023? as im looking to get my first gaming laptop and i have no idea what im buying lol
Out of the Msi GF63 rtx3050 and the ASUS tuf f15 rtx3050 which one would you say provides better performance?
how long have you worked at soc position?
Have you plans to review the ASUS TUF A15 of this year? Thank you
hello sir jarrod, do you have any extra potato laptop not being used, ill just use it for my work and convert it into an emulator for low end games... thanks
im planning for a acer nitro 3050 16gb ram. Is it enough for ea sports, god of war GTA and others?? Or should i go for 4050??.
Hello !
Do you know any web to analyze things like those you showed? Specifically fps per watt or fps per euro (or dollar)
Looking forward to seeing your reviews those super low power 4070s for like, gaming ultrabooks
To be honest, considering that I don't use ray tracing and i don't really care about it, my msi gl75 with full powered rtx2070 does much better than lower tier gaming laptops. I think I'd rather wait another year before upgrading. 80 fps is sweet spot in my case although i get 120fps in modern warfare II benchmark
How does that fare with the 3060 laptop gpu
@@lilkidsuave doesn't worth the upgrade in my case, only if you need the more optimized hardware for specific purposes
It would be cool to see frame gen in a future nintendo console to help it reach target framerates
I'm freaking confused for the last couple of weeks. I'm willing to buy Legion 7 Gen 7 AMD Advantage. It has Ryzen 9 6900HX, Radeon RX6850M XT 12 GB Graphic card, 32 gb ram, 2 TB SSD. It now costs around 2180 USD (previously it was 2800). Will it be better than 3070ti? or will this gpu equally perform with RTX 4070? And will it be good enough for solid content creation? please give me a reply.
Without dlss3 it would be better than both 4070 and 3070 (they perform the same anyway) but worse or same in ray tracing.
The RTX 6850M XT is significantly faster than the RTX 3070 Ti and RTX 4070 laptop GPUs overall, especially at 1080p, but slower at ray tracing (except in games that need more than 8GB VRAM, where the 6850M XT will still be faster), and does not support DLSS (so is not as good if you want to play at 4K in games that support DLSS). The 6850M XT is about as fast as an RTX 3080 Ti laptop GPU at 1080p (though slower at 1440p and 4K).
However, I don't think this laptop is worth more than $2000.
You may be able to buy a similar laptop with less RAM and storage, and then upgrade them yourself. This is often a lot cheaper than buying a laptop with more RAM and storage preinstalled. Laptops with a Ryzen 7 6800H or Ryzen 9 6900HS and RX 6800M are only about 5% slower than laptops with the 6900HX and 6850M XT, but sometimes much cheaper, and use slightly less power.
There's a Corsair Voyager A1600 with a 6800M, 6900HS, 32GB RAM, a 2TB SSD, and a 240Hz screen on Newegg for only $1900. It does have slightly worse brighness than the Legion though, so isn't as good for content creation or watching HDR content, but it should be about equivalent for gaming overall, or even better for competitive/high-refresh-rate gaming.
@@nathangamble125 Thanks a lot for your kind reply . Well, How's RX6850M XT 12 GB for content creation?
@@GamerBoy001G Very bad sadly, in general nvidia offers better support.
@@GamerBoy001G what software wil you use for content creation. Some work better for nvidia
The issue with the 4050 laptop is that it its CPU. It has an Intel Core i5-12450H, which has 4P and 4E cores. The 3050 laptop has an older i5 with what are effectively 6P cores, so... I find it hard to choose any of these laptops personally for gaming 😅
the i5 12450h is just a i3 whit E cores
It'd be nice if your deals site helped to demystify gpu powerdraw numbers.
why no DLLS 3.0 for RTX 3000 Series?
According to Nvidia that hardware can technically do it, but it's suboptimal and doesn't offer a good enough experience to make it practical.
I want to buy Asus Vivobook pro 15 with RTX 4050 6GB and Intel i7, mostly for programming and networking, also for gaming, is that laptop with those specs good for gaming even that its not gaming laptop? Thank you✌️
When will new G14, X13 and UX6404 be available?
"Do More with Less" seems to be the theme for RTX 40 series mobile.
i feel like wed get less of an uplift with higher tgps, would u be able to compare them at 95 watts(80+15 dynamic bosst on the 3050)?
what is the price difference between the two laptop?
Good day, please tell me which one is better between these two laptops???
ASUS ROG Strix G17 G713QR (G713QR-K4009) rtx 3070
ASUS ROG Strix G17 G713PV (G713PV-LL043) rtx 4060
Thank you, otherwise I can't choose the best between these two models, in one Rtx4060, in another Rtx3070, what is better to take for 2k games????
Is it better to get a laptop with 32 gb ram and rtx 3050 graphics or a laptop with 16 gb ram and rtx 4050 graphics, assuming they both cost the same. And each has a 1TB hard drive?
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Can we say that with the Frame Generation feature, the RTX4050 would be a better option rather than any RTX3000 series?
What I'm wondering is, is it better to get a 85watt 3050, over a 40watt 4050?
How is msi gf63 Rtx 3050 does it have any heating issue ,or does it have loud fan noise??
Yeah.....I'll stick with the Helios Predator 300 2022 refresh with a 3060.
Amazing video as ever
Can't wait for 4050 vs 3060
I heard they have refresh version of rtx 3050 that come with 6gb vram is that true?
Yes.
is the g513qy advantage edition still a good gaming laptop?
Insomnium like the metal band... Man it has been years since I listened to them...
Jarod why are you holding reviews on the Ryzen 7945HX? Other laptop reviewers are onto them long time ago, you are on the top of laptop reviewers, feels weird that you haven't said anything on those CPUs...
Because we only got it about a week ago and are just getting started on it. There is an enormous amount of work, and it's not a priority for us until we get the 13980HX in the Scar 18 back so that we can do a comparison.
I want a good laptop with 4050 but there is no good option available like last year's legion 5 rtx 3060 and amd
Yeah many models are still launching, especially AMD options, have to be patient I suppose!
@@JarrodsTech ok bro thanks I'll wait
2023 budget laptops are the ones to go this year. I've been waiting for a 6 gb vram on the lowest end.
Hi jarrod, will you review the 3050 refresh with 6gb of ram, same cuda cores ad 3050ti but 96bit bus?
96-bit bus seem low but it's not really a detriment for the 4050. Surprisingly good results.
Yes, I am completely surprised it's other superb features.. ( WOW! AN INTRO GPU CARD WITH DECENT 6GB GRAPHICS MEMORY, THANKS NVIDIA).. actually Mitigated it's meh performance and put 3050 to shame.
I have a RTX 3050 TI with MSi entry gaming laptop, it has performed excellent and past its price point. Got it in 10/23/22.
Most awaited video i wish i had a 4050 laptop but not in my budget 😭😭 only i can find 1650s in my budget 😭😭😭
It is funny how all reviewers fancy frame generation, like its a base feature and not just supported by a handful new titles, those titles each cost like 5-10% of the laptops price lol...
It's also funny how comments like this happily ignore the fact that I always specify that it's only available in a handful of games, the point is it will presumably grow and get bigger over time like DLSS. Same thing happened there.
@@JarrodsTech Yes, I know you do, yet still many commenters do not seem to understand that is not a base 4xxx class driver feature and 99.99% games will not support it. But yeah the low-mid category in laptop chips is the best "benefiter" for it for sure.
There is no way to actually increase the Wattage of a laptop GPU right?
pls add re4 , last of us to benchmark to compare vram limitation and issue as therefore 6gb and 8gb are struggling with newer games like these
Me still using a 1050 and 4 core processor
frame generation is a real improvement... too bard Nvidia kept it as a marketing technique to get people to buy 40 series, it is a piece of software that can easily be adapted to any series including GTX perhaps I would say
If possible, can you also add Genshin Impact in your future testing?
genshin is a constantly updating and changing game, so it's not possible to use it for testing.. as far as i understand
I don't know much about that, but thought it ran on a potato
@@JarrodsTech Genshin is actually kinda intense. A 1650 laptop hovers around 50-60 fps
@@stardust6630 Well with 1.5 res scale, FPS unlocker and in the desert location it is somewhat heavy, but no one gonna test it this way i believe
@@theSeventhDruid the game is locked at 60, also he wouldn't bother to install a mod to run it at 60+, and it break hoyo's terms
Wow, the fans and heatsinks on both of these laptops are scary. Compared to another gaming laptop, they usually have 2 fans and a massive heatsink. My Lenovo Legion 5I 15imh05h 8y6000dus runs the coolest out of any gaming laptop I've ever used to tested. But, it has 2 fans on each side and a massive heatsink. These 2 laptops look like they run super hot!