Redrawing Dragon Ball Super's New Movie (Super Hero) - 3D vs 2D
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
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Today we will be redrawing Dragon Ball Super's new movie: Superhero's 3D CGI visuals into 2D! This was a ton of fun and I hope you all enjoy my pain and anguish as I struggle to draw in different styles like Toyotaro, Shintani and of course Masaki Sato!
Characters featured in this video include: Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo and Gamma #1!
MUSIC
-Champ's Theme (DBZ)
-M1709 (DBZ)
-Burakku no Hanran (DBGT)
-SF 3rd Strike Character Select Screen OST
-Elevator Music (Rockman X Dive)
-Delightful Speekio (Chrono Trigger)
-Dynamo (MMX5)
-They're Back (Streets of Rage 4)
-Dudley's Theme (SF 3Rd Strike)
-Ride of the Valkyries
-Sins of the Father (MGSV)
-Haven Intro Music
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Video edited by Editor-San
Editor-san being a _hardcore old-schooler_ is something I did not expect to see today, more power to them 👊
@Editor-san Your art piece came out great. I never thought I’d witness anyone using old school manga creation tools. It was epic to witness.
I really like their "don't waste your life like I have mine" vibe in what they told mark to say write before, very endearing, theu seems to be a pretty multitalented person
@Editor-san Editor-san is non-binary? Okay, also _happy Pride Month 🏳️🌈_
@Editor-san oh shit, so sorry, I really should transfer to using gender neutral pronouns when I'm not sure, as some who has an entire wood work shop set up, that's what we say to others as a joke since it's so engrossing you never get enough there's always more to add, so we jokingly saying "don't ruin your life, like I have mine" by picking up this hobby without understanding the endpoint.
Sorry again, I only saw one of you comments in my notifications wasn't sure if it was she or they, edited my comment, and also edited my first response which was a rapidly written, incoherent mess
I’m divided on the visuals of the movie. Sometimes it looks incredible and sometimes it’s looks really cheap, but I guess that’s just how CGI is. Honestly I’d love a movie with the visuals similar to DragonBallFighterZ as well
Fighterz honestly has set the bar for 3d anime animation tbh (for me) I love the visuals of that game to death
@@michaelbailey1242 21 may or may not have played a part in that. :D
@@mito-pb8qg nah it was gogeta lol
@@mito-pb8qg it was the ssj3 goku super for me
I dont See how people Love fighterz graphics so much, imo it Looks soooo unfinished , i See the resemblance to the Anime but it might be the shading or Just Something that makes it Look Bad imo. Imo the movies Models are way better
8:56 is a gorgeous redraw. Wish we could get all the new movies and anime in that art style.
I just want the old coloring back tbh
This that frame looks so fucking beautiful.
The ultimate proof, that 3D animation simply CANNOT compete with the stylized and crispness of 2D drawings. Especially when you can spend a lot of time on them.
Beautiful work guys.
It can, and it will only continue to improve. However you can blend the 2 together to get something that looks beautiful.
@FartJiggly I disagree. If anything, I dislike when they mix 2D and 3D. The transitions are not smooth and ruin the experience.
Seems to compete just fine. Looks better than most of Dragon Ball.
@@ludvig3242 Most ludicrous statement of all time
It absolutely can compete and look better, and it does a lot. Spiderverse movies are a great example, they would not look anywhere near as good as they do if they where traditional 2D style. Cgi looks bad when you use it to specifically replicate 2D, however when you use 3D and take full advantage of its strengths and stylise it, it definitely can and does look better.
Man, Third Strike really had some of the best fighting game music
And arguably the best sprite work of any Capcom fighting game. It's why I adore it so much.
FACTS!
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It takes a lot of studying to notice art style difference between various directors. I'm sure it's indistinguishable to the layman like myself. It would be really educational if you someday did various artstyle recreations on the same image
I agree! That would be interesting!
Editor San deserves MAJOR props.
Like I know you're not as rich as a major studio company, but I hope he's getting paid well for the amount of time and sincerity he puts into these videos.
1. He did an entire traditional animation style drawing for this video, and saying he did it well is an understatement.
2. He edits these videos so smooth and captivating. Seriously. Sectioning the different images by "redraw" "source" and "footage" gives EVERYONE something to look at, even if we're not looking at the same thing.
3. And ON TOP OF THAT; he uses DB style graphics to both fill in the empty space and remind us who is drawing each portion of the video.
Absolutely Captivating.
I wish I could've watched this within the first few minutes of uploading for visibility sake, but since it will likely sink to the bottom I wanna note that I'm an animator myself (literally went to college for it), and I don't think I'm anywhere near that talented. This is just props to Editor San!
I was hesitant at first, but the 3D was a lot better than I hoped. All the characters still have great expressions, fluid movements, and didn't have the CGI issue we've seen in the last 3 movies
I think 2d for the win! It just had more character than 3d that just looks to clean and.. weird
Yeah
3d just looks glossy and lazy
3d looks really good in this movie.
@@Eduard.D.Vinsmoke "lazy" LMFAOOOO
Almost every frame from the original looks better than the fanart, except for the final one
The horror he makes the drawing out to be in the beginning sounds exaggerated but as an artist I can testify that you really do develop PTSD. Awesome work Mark!
@guys look please for the love of everyone, STOP SPAMMING
@@josephbriggs2257 they are bots. replying to them actually shows youtube engagement and takes longer for them to be delt with. Reporting is the easiest and quickest way. Does suck that this is the state of comment sections on youtube, though. :(
@@AwkwardPain It's especially bad with Mark's channel, though.
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"This image defeated me"
>shows us arguably one of the best fan art drawings of Gohan i've ever seen
idk if its just the filtering and shit doing a lot of the heavy lifting, but that looks incredibly authentic to early DBZ, right down to the swirling energy instead of the basic aura.
Nahh, there are definitely some volumetric and anatomical mistakes in this drawing. Looks like Somebody corrected over Masayuki Uchiyama.
Mark made a major mistake here. In trying to duplicate a style guide, when something just isn't working, the advice is to *break the shit out of the model* It means making personal choices that make the style look good.
0:14 Wow, Bulma is THICCC with 3 C's. She's the whole bakery 😂
It's nice seeing the artistic talents of you and your crew. Always a treat to watch these videos :)
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@YOU it’s not even funny..
Would I have preferred the Broly movie animation? Totally, but this still doesn't deny the fact that this movie looks really good. They've really outdone themselves this time. Plus CGI when done well looks great, i mean we've seen it in Beastars, Land of the Lustrous and now this.
The all star lineup from Broly are too busy to work on a DBS project, this is the best option we had and it looks amazing.
Agreed. I loved Broly's animation a lot. But seeing as how Dragon Ball is seeming to go on for eternity (would be awesome), we have to accept that CGI is most likely where it'll head. I also love the idea that we get to see all the characters age, mainly thinking of Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Pan. oh and Bulla :D
@@Amplifymagic thank you many people forget the people who work on broly are busy with diffrent animes like one piece dragon quest dai
@@Amplifymagic nope they are working on one piece wano arc
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So much amazing artistic talent and skill shown off in this video!
I gotta say, that Gamma 1 that Editor-san created was flippin' mind blowing! An old school, difficult process, executed flawlessly
You guys are freaking incredible.
Not just for the art but the patience~ The ability to deal with potential burnout... all of it, seriously impressive.
These looked pretty good I'm not gonna lie. It's nice seeing the process of artistry on display here
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Glad to hear mark talk about dragon ball again, even if its just for this one video. Such a pleasant surprise!
Same, I thought Toei sniping him would be the end of db content on the channel
There's 2 though....
Oh I am LIVING for the Third Strike edits in this one, great work all around!
9:21 the way u can see on the impact frame 2 broken balls is hillarious but painful at the same time😭
I think way too many people jumped the gun on hateing this movie. Honestly from what I've seen from the trailers I think it looks great and I can't wait to see it
There’s some awkward inbetween stills that’s been exaggerated but there’s so many frames of fluid and action intensive animation sequences just from relying on the tech that it’s hardly noticeable in motion.
So far the trailers have proved that it can look good.
Honestly I'm okay with 3D animation IF it means that the studios stop working their animators to death. I could never enjoy entertainment if it was built off the backs of crunch and other cruel working conditions.
I want to see a 2D animated movie.... not a videogame cutscene
@@jesusbarrera6916 I'd love to see a dragon ball game that looks this good
@@grandadmiralthrawn8116 FighterZ looks better than this and Kakarot despite being also a low effort job looks similar to this
I missed these type of vids, Marc has a surprising amount of artistic talent
frfr
Yeah less manga reviews and more DB art.
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The thing about CG in the series is that the most we got from it was in the Fighting game cutscenes in the early days of PS2, when they really really looked good...until Raging Blast and everything after. If any kind of CG be used that I still wish to see is Budokai Tenkaichi CG models, they just had good and smooth motions and how they were animated is godly especially having Goku and Vegeta nodding their heads before the big clash. Peak CG in the series Hands Down
Other than that I hope this video doesn't give you or the team any problems, has a nostalgic feeling to it, Great Job...as usual
2D Art is the best for Dragon Ball but 3D when done right also looks great, can't wait for the movie and also love the Summer Wars clip at 11:51
I love how Ajay didnt do a single drawing but he still was featured
@Editor-san ohh damn
@@ahiyanmaleek2952 wdym damn
I really like the drawing videos but wasn't sure we'd get more after the Toei fiasco. Great to see it happen.
The Takahashi style at the end was just an absolute masterpiece 🙌🏼
The DB Super Broly artstyle is so timeless, i hope they use it again in the future!
please man, dragon ball is my favourite series, if they fuck it up with the shitty 3d, I will never come to terms with it, also how can people see animation from broly fight(the 2d part) and say the 3d is better??? i legit cant see how this style isi apealing
I love how editor-san did the drawing. Its a PERFECT spread. It definitely looked liked it was ripped right out of the manga...If it was a manga lol.
Its now a manga lol. The DBS manga decided to adapt the movie arc lol
I feel like this wouldn't have been so controversial if they got the guys from FighterZ to make an entire movie in that 3d style.
i've seen the story mode for Guilty Gear Strive... & yeah they aren't as good when there's more than 1 camera angle, nor Non-fiight scenes
i pray it happens soon
Arc System Works is them and yeah it would be cool, but that would take so much time.
That would arguably take even longer than hand drawn
the arcsys art style stops working when you change camera angles because of how they do their models
I was one of the crowd who was always watching your videos as an unsubscribed, the way you guys fix all the shots from S and the movies, damn son, I love it the way you all do, SUBSCRIBED!
It still cracks me up whenever Editor-san is picked, you hear the meme scream when he is selected lmao
i like how gohan is going to look in this film, he looks like teen gohan combined with the gohan we have right now
No he doesn't. He looks like current gohan....
@@coal8895 he looks like teen gohan combined with the gohan we have right now
@@sslloobbsstteerr No he doesn't. He looks like current gohan....
For once I’m actually digging the cg in this movie. It looks really seamless and it has me more curious to see it now rather than if it were just your standard Dragon Ball film.
The CG doesn't look good at all. Just look at Goku in the end shot... He looks dumb af.
@@hans0to you are seriously delusional if you think the CG doesn't look good
@@chubz6211 I'm not delusional. It looks cheap. Great for a video game.
@@hans0to agreed
@@hans0to LOL
I knew you made insanely great DBZ videos, but I had no idea you were such an accomplished artist!
Honestly, I'd like to see someone trying Naotoshi Shida's style, that would be very interesting
He did it with parts of the manga in this video czcams.com/video/bTYAgZpK1tA/video.html
Just hoping Toei doesn’t pull a Disney, sees this is more cost-effective, and eventually just forgets how to 2D animate.
This movie won't make as much sales as the
Broly movie so I doubt they'll go that route
They won't just "forget" how to animate 2D. This is their craft. Besides this is like the only 3D anime they are doing?
So you're not using a "Garou with mustache" avatar, huh...
@@jackthegreek6092 You never know.
@@Minohorse That’s a different guy. My student who surpassed me long ago.
Now I want 2D Dragon ball heroes super hero
Iffff, the film is really good than maybe we COULD give it the same treat as the Spongebob Movie Rehydrated lol
@@superjboy16 what would that be? Really good visuals (not saying super hero is bad just guessing what you mean)
we all do... we all do...
@@PabzRoz nah it’s perfect as is it, in this vid 2d doesn’t compare to the official lol
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I am loving this 2D redraw waaaaay too much
Can't wait for part 2
Seeing these drawings further proves how far we have fallen. I really miss the old school artistic style of Dragonball Z. The Buu Saga had some of the best artwork ever made. It had a realistic crispness that can't be mimicked by 3d animation
you say that like the cgi is bad
“can’t be mimicked”
Correction: hasn’t yet. Things like Arcane show it’s more than possible
Acting like Broly doesn’t exist
9:00 This is amazing, great work from all the artists but this is my favorite by a large margin although my preference has always been this style of animation.
agree. i even though this is a real movie drawing
The Megaman X5 nods will never cease to put a big grin on my face. Also the excellent illustrations! Great job guys!
I luv how Goten and Trucks are actually growing up and look so much bigger in this movie! o
These drawing videos are so unexpectedly interesting to me, absolutely loved it! :D
Looking forward to the next! Great job guys!
11:40 y'all gotta draw that shot of Gohan right there in part 2, I'd love to see that in any other style. It already looks gorgeous.
These redrawing videos are something else.
5:53 i really like how this turned out, everything else looks good too
i didnt even know you guys could draw like this. incredible to see your teams skill more personally keep it up TNM team
I appreciate this so much! They look awesome, and yes the trailers and art look amazing, pretty hyped for the new movie! I hope the shit-show you've had with Toei has been laid to rest my friend
Mark I've always loved your videos, but the 3rd Strike character select screen just made my night.
2d all the way for me, it just looks amazing when done right
the fucking pepe screaming during the Yuya Takahashi section had me laughing my ass off. I'm really excited for this film, an interesting experiment with art style (I've always wanted DBZ in 3D to be a thing) and a small scale story focusing on less powerful characters. Two things i've been, looking forward to for years.
At least we can all agree that DBS super hero looks far better now than it did months ago. Sorry, but the Toei hack provided timw for the movie to look greater than most of the dragon ball episode, with the exception of some iconic moments.
But, They weren't working when after the toei hack took place. Afaik, they couldnt while everything was being investigated by officials.
I love all of these but I have endless admiration for editor san's manga style which takes the cake for me.
I like that the sorta Buu Saga art just looked so freaking cool and fit it so much better....
8:59 is so freaking good...
*SO* glad to see you back on this, I really really appreciate you guys! I was so worried about you Mark, glad you're able to do this.
5:52 This re-draw of Vegeta is 🔥
and Mark you did a great job re-drawing that Gohan don't sweat it 😃 for part 2 I'm hoping to see Keisuke Masanaga and Masaaki Iwane's art style from Studio Cockpit make an appearance
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That editor-san redraw is just beautiful. That Lazer gun shooting the projectile is pure eye candy.
You know, deep down, that Toei will be using 3D for all the movies and anime going forward.
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you could redesign hunter x hunter's 2011 chimera ant saga in the 1999 style
Please
dont take this the wrong way, but didn't you say you would not make content on any of toei animations products till they change the way they see your videos when it comes to copyright. (not to limit your creativ freedom just want to know your thoughts on the matter)
Mark is a hypocrite. He HATES Dragon Ball! Always criticising and making money off it
Nice video Mark, my question is why did you pick such a difficult shot for Gohan? XD
4:00 I have literally No Idea how *Manga artists did this every week*
Wow Trevs redraw of Vegeta was *super* accurate, loved that
im amazed how talented all these artists are to match the theme and art style of each DBZ ark
I just wanted to say here that I absolutely love both 2D and 3D mediums equally.
11:15 is beautiful and literally has me thinking if 2d animation would’ve been better for the movie
True
But props to toei for trying to do something new
Eh about the piccolo one, its hard to capture but the GOHAN ONE wtf dude youre talented and really did well you even deleted a GREAT expression in the MASAKI style. You all did amazin
I'm not a big fan of 3D animation when it comes to anime series but this new movie of Dragon Ball Super definitely looks great. But I really prefer Yuya Takahashi and Tadayoshi Yamamuro's style. In my opinion, every Dragon Ball film should have their style.
This movie did something I loved. They drew Gohan’s eyes right
wow all of your drawings are amazing!! my jaw dropped!
Saw it and this is seriously the best looking dragonball movie ever. Like this is the best a lot of the characters have looked. I don't know how it's a debate.
I’m very looking forward to seeing this, the 3d animation actually looks very good. 🐉
i think 3d and 2d together can make some really cool visuals. like in Arcane where they use 2d effects to make the cg art pop and make it more interesting to look at.
I love that you use the Mega Man X5 sound effects, love that game and the art you guys make ♥
Editor-San's first drawing has me feeling all sorts of ways holy!
Why does piccolo looks like he about to turn in to a titan
I'm deeeeply skeptical of the 3D route they're taking and this amazing video just deepens my concern. No doubt translating to 3D is difficult and the people making it are extremely talented, still, talent and hard work are never enough to salvage a bad idea. I guess we'll see.
i had to stop the video and comment here that the SF3 Third Strike selection was just awesome... now back to the video.
Ever thought of drawing newer scenes of other long running series in their older art styles?
For example, Wano One Piece in East Blue art style
That sounds pretty awesome actually.
Another example is Boruto in OG Naruto's art style.
Series like Bleach, JOJO, Lupin III and Berserk would all be great, since each one went through 4 or more artstyle changes each over the course of their runs (with franchises like Lupin III containing at least a dozen different artstyles), and some are still undergoing changes today.
Oh yeah that would look weird but cool. Also would have to choose between anime and manga
Toriyama artstyle can and looks incredible in 3d, just look at Dragon Quest 11 and DB FighterZ, I'm really linking what I saw from the movie and can't wait to see the final product
db fighterz is a videogame...
@@flansexovich7757 you do realize that you can do entire movies in Unreal engine 4/5 since what they are simply a 3d software or do you not know what ingame cinematic are? 3d assets and CGI are basically the same loke my exemple of DQ11 still stands it's Toriyama artstyle recreated in Unreal 4 and the game and it's cinematic are gorgeous
@@maximegiroux4143 dude, it's imposible to make a 3d animation at the same quality level than 2d
@@flansexovich7757 yeah since they are completly diferent animation style and that one style can't dostuff that the other can. I've been way more impress by 3d animation in recent years (Arcane, Into the Spider-verse, Mihoyo honkai impact shorts) than by anything 2d.
You'd surprise how many great Sakuga moments in anime are actually 3d or at least enhance the visual with 3d.
2d has been around for the last 100 years and 3d for 30 something years and it's evolving by leaps and bound and 2d is a relatively dying art and cost waaay more to produce.... wich one do you think will be more cost effective for a multibillion company like Toei?
@@maximegiroux4143 At the end of the day the only thing in what cgi is superior to 2d animacion is in term of cost but, honestly for the fans like you and me we don't care a shit if cgi is cheaper, we want to have a quality product
This looks so much more appealing!
A lot of people don't like the 3D style, but me personally, i actually really like it.
This new DB film actually has me wanting to go just because the cgi looks incredible. I think it compliments alot of the unique characters from the show very well!
I wonder how Yamamuro’s style would’ve been depicted by the fans had it had the Tarble special coloring
can we just take a second and appreciate how good these guys are at drawing?
What else would we be doing for over twelve minutes watching this?
@@declanashmore eh true lol. im just dum :|
@@RoundyTheDummy Aren't we all silly, silly people, though? :)
What a video!! My socks were blown off with explosive force through a wall to the other side of my house!
I was extremely skeptical at first, but now that I've seen all of the trailers I gotta be real: the CG animation looks fantastic
I actually really like how the movie looks everything sorta just looks right. I still like 2D better but I don’t think this looks bad from what we’ve seen.
PLEASE REDRAW ALL MOVIE when it come out. This Goku 2d redraw is just gorgeous O___O like from old DBZ movies......
Im sorry but the last picture was literally the best fan made dragon ball design of goku I ever seen idk if it’s the background that really makes goku pop or the was the shading is but it just look perfect in a way
AJAY was the best drawing here.💀
I'm very curious to know what's the filter applied to the final product of the first Gohan drawing. The one you had to draw with a 1 pixel thick brush
Thank you very much for not unaliving yourself. This is very much appreciated.
bruh Street fighter 3 Select character theme was LIT
Question 1: "Do you play any of the Dragon Ball games?"
Question 2: "What apps, devices, or tools do you guys use to do this drawings?"
I feel like this new amazing look for the cgi was because of the fact that arc sys did such a great job with fighterz that it gave it a template for how they should be created to make it look great without taking away from the original look
Wow you people did amazing job 👏🏼
Loving the ne content! Glad to see Toei fucking off and your channel (and passion) going back to its roots. All artists did a fantastic job with their work, but that rendition of Gamma #1 in classic Toriyama was fucking CLEAN and would make a beautiful tattoo
* 6:39 Giga-Trev
3:14 …did
…Did anyone else hear that scream?
Yeah
I’m so happy Toei will leave you alone and you can finally make videos on Dragon Ball every once in a while