Explained: Can Northern Ireland break away from the UK and form a united Ireland?
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- čas přidán 14. 02. 2024
- In 1921, England partitioned Ireland into two countries: the Republic of Ireland in the south and Northern Ireland under the dominion of the United Kingdom.
Now, with a nationalist leader advocating for Irish unity sworn in to lead Northern Ireland, will the two regions reunite?
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Wish the best northern ireland❤
A United Ireland 🇮🇪, a Free Palestine 🇵🇸. May we see both in our lifetime
People in NI now have free access to both UK and EU markets and can have both British and Irish passports. It's the best of both worlds, why would they wish to change that?
Since the Olso Accord in the mid 1990's Gaza has received over 40 billion dollars in aid. That's not counting the financial support provided to Hamas from other sources, including Iran. Per capita, that is actually significantly more than the Marshall plan. If they hadn't wasted that money on building tunnels and firing rockets into Israel Gaza could be like Monaco.
@@catinthehat906 shame on you for your lies about the Palestinians.
@@dustin9132 Maybe the Monaco reference but the tunnels and rockets stuff is true.
@@johnnotrealname8168 nah, just typical Zionist drivel.
@@dustin9132 The Palestinian Liberation Organization tried to lead an uprising in Jordan in the early 1970s, to overthrow the Hashemite Monarchy. Egypt's President Mubarak was overthrown in 2011 with the assistance of Hamas.
Almost no one ever gets this right. Good job TRT on the video!
Lets see if TRT ist also in favour of a united Cyprus :D
@@zo0mpa Ireland was united since the beginning of time until 1922 and has only been disunited for 102 years. What leads you to believe that the temporary partition has been better than the prior millennia?
@@crose7412 Are you just historically illiterate on purpose?
@@johnnotrealname8168 No. What makes you ask that?
@@crose7412 Éire has not been politically united for all that time.
Brexit is the gift that keeps giving!
*on giving
Ireland will follow the UK out of the EU, guaranteed
Unlikely since support for being in the EU hovers at around 90%.
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp🙈🙈🙈😅😅😅😅🙈🙈🙈🙈
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rpAs an Irish man, I know for a fact that will never happen.
As an American with Irish Catholic ancestry, I stand with Sinn Fein for a united Ireland & for a Free Palestine! 🇮🇪 🇵🇸
As a British citizen living in Northern Irelamd I expect the people of my province to decide their future, not embittered Irish American exiles who seem to forget they live in somebody else's country.
You're a citizen of the north of Ireland. Don't be bitter about it.@@cottownpicker
Sinn Fein needs to stop glad handing it at the shitehouse.@@maxpowerii7368
@@cottownpicker just like illigal settlers in Westbank, thinking its their land.
@@cottownpicker
Why do the DUP have a problem with men identifying as women but have no problem with Irish people identifying as British?
Freedom for Ireland. Love from Indonesia
It looks like Africa now.
Ireland united
Indonesia colonizing west papua
Do you think Irish people like in west papua wind up in prison when they raise the Irish flag😂
I'll be enslaved in a one country island of Ireland. Northern Ireland deserves to remain it's own nation. I have freedom in Northern Ireland thank you 👍
🇮🇪 ireland are people with morals and good humanity . Croatia 🇭🇷 stands with ireland !!! England , netherlands
A very Good and informative video with no slant either way. At 62 I live and pray in the hope of a united Ireland 🇮🇪
I certainly hope not.
I hope you see your country united in your life.
@@Hedgehog952 Yeah I think the no mention of the British bombing of Dublin and Monaghan, the 100+ years of ethnic cleansing, the numerous loyalists terror groups armed and supported by the British state, the shoot to kill policy, the slaughtering of innocent civilians on the streets of Derry and elsewhere, the concentration camps and the failure to recognised the nationalists population as even human until the early 1990's make it fairly balanced
@@joeduffy3309 You forgot about Priti Patel saying that the UK should threaten Ireland with food shortages in December 2018 over the Backstop or David Frost meeting with Loyalist terrorists in May 2021 or that in February 2022 (months before the election) the DUP pulled out of Stormont, when the North's economy was doing better than Brexit Britain (proving Brexit a failure) and only returned after a massive strike and the economy stalling (who asked them to pull out, Boris was furious the DUP returned)..
@@Hedgehog952S.F had nothing to do with the Omagh bombing if you want someone to blame start with Mi5/RUC and the Garda special branch
As an Englishman it seems entirely logical for Ireland to be united.
I have never met an Englishman yet who thought that Northern Ireland belongs in the U.K. other than because a majority of the Northern Irish population wished to be British citizens.
The mismanagement of the U.K. and the changing demographic of Northern Ireland would seem to make reunification just a matter of time.
The reunification of Ireland will be an accidental Tory achievement. It will probably happen under a Labour govt and the Tories will make great dishonest capital out of it.
It’s not going to happen for the next two decades minimum.
The latest poll only a couple of days ago shows support for a UI at 46% ish. Hardly a ringing endorsement and a figure that’s barely moved.
And the new executive are no doubt going to lose political capital and make mistakes.
Thinking they’re going to unify anytime soon is fanciful but the ROI better start investing in their defence forces because we certainly won’t be sending British soldiers over when it inevitably kicks off.
"Other than because a majority of the Northern Irish population wished to be British citizens" is a big reason, not to be brushed aside. Bit like the Falklands and Gibraltar.
@@faramirThis is no longer the case.
Nortern irish? More like English and scottish settlers! They aint irish at all
@@532bluepeter1 Survey evidence suggests that a majority in NI do still wish to be art of the UK, although they no longer support the main unionist parties in the same numbers. When surveys and opinion polls show a clear majority to join the Republic, there will be a "Border Poll", as promised in the GFA. It will need to be clear, because the decision will not be reversible. The UK will not want NI back.
Well the British loved going around partitioning countries for their own gains. Ireland is a good example, the effects of which continue to fester. The conflict in the North was never about religion despite the window dressing. Many Irish Republicans have been Protestant. Also, the first President of the Irish Republic, Douglas Hyde, was also Protestant.
Another example of partition is India, whereby the Muslim majority areas were carved off creating Pakistan and Bangladesh, despite the majority of Indian Muslims being against partition believing it would result in increased sectarianism and would weaken their power. Religious communities there lived side-by-side peacefully for centuries until the British came along.
Partition of India was a positive. Gandhi ruined it by halting removal of all muslims.
You are right. It's not about religion, it's about ethnicity. One people on the island believe they are the only ones entitled to live there. Others might be tolerated but only on terms. Ergo, we see the true face of Irish hospitality today with the burning of migrant centres and riots against foreigners. Twas ever thus for those from outside the island seeking to start a new life. That's what makes partition so attractive.
We will take what we can, but Ireland is small, and full. Let them go to the UK and America , the countries responsible for their war torn countries. @@cottownpicker
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Send hundreds of thousands of Irish living in Britain back to Ireland? You would vote for it big tough man?
@@EpicAelflaed why would they have to leave?
It's time for reunification!
Ok you can have it but be careful what you wish for the UVF will give you a taste of your own medicine.
Tiochfaidh ár lá!
@@pongop The time for reunification is if and when the folk of NI vote for it.
@@faramirOr with revolution. If the United States had waited for southern voters to vote to end slavery, slavery would have never ended and we'd still have it today.
@@pongop Quite likely. Are you likening the position of the NI Catholics to slaves? If you were doing that, you would be wrong.
One might even argue that we had the revolution, during the Troubles, in which the IRA wanted to coerce the North into unification by violent means, and they failed because unlike the southern US in the 19th century NI is a democracy and unification with the republic did not have sufficient popular support. Maybe after 25 years of peace, the shambles of Brexit, and the different signalling of Ms O'Neill eg around the death of the Queen, the consensus has moved on. When it does, that is the right time. Voters might usefully remember that it is an irreversible choice. If the North votes to leave the UK, there will be no chance to come back. If it votes to remain, there will no doubt be other votes at generational intervals.
Can't wait to see a United Ireland.
Watching from Somalia.
Somalia has wifi???
@@russian-skittle6929 We have a fast growing economy and the cheapest mobile data and fastest wifi downloads in Africa and it is always nice and sunny outside! Here in Garowe in my garden I grow lots of fruits like lemons and vegetables. 😎
@@ramatgan1 Wow, btw my country hates you but I don't
@@russian-skittle6929Russia has indoor toilets?
One Somalia one peace
Small correction: England’s first colony was Wales. Then Ireland.
The reason people don't say wales is because technically it wasn't a colony
Like us irish at the start we weren't a colony until the lordship of ireland under the tudor family before that we were England controlled directly by England not a puppet state later we had our own puppet flag as a colony
Wales had the same they were brought straight into England as English territory he only difference is they didn't become a vassal until after us
And colonial powers demonise the people who dares to stand up against them
@@WjfhdhShshshsh Still, Welsh culture and their terretory was forced into submission.
There isn't a strong Welsh indepandence BECAUSE the British managed to colonise them.
@@askosefamerve ?
No there isn't strong Welsh opposition because the Welsh are the brits
Welsh were majority protestant and benifits fine from the uk
Wales and ireland are two completely different stories even more so considering most of the first English army to invade us were Welsh
@@askosefamerve Welsh culture is britush culture Welsh remained untouched within English control for years since they were protestants
Firstly, I'd like to acknowledge the generosity of the Sultan of Turkey in the 1840's who sent ship loads of food to the starving Irish People when the Potato Crop failed. I'd like to correct an error in this otherwise excellent video: the December 1918 General Election was to elect 105 MP's to the British Parliament in London, not Dail Eireann in Dublin.
I hate how distorted that story has became. It was sent to try secure an alliance against the Russian Empire, not out of the goodness of their hearts, they literally done the exact same thing in the Balkans and the Middle East as what the Brits done to Ireland.
@@icemanire5467 'Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense'! Since the landing of Anglo-Norman Mercenaries at Bagginbun in Wexford on 1 May 1169, Ireland has been plagued with WASPS that injected their spawn into the body of Ireland to thrive at the expense of the Host! 'My enemy's enemy is my friend'!🤴🤛
@@icemanire5467not true thats your assumption not facts
All uk and Europe had famine same time.
@@joprocter4573 False equivalence! How many of those other countries lost a quarter of their population to starvation & disease while vast quantities of food was exported under military escort? How many more millions were forced to emigrate so that their populations were reduced to a quarter right into the twentieth century?
Ireland will be UNITED
‼️According to Star Trek, 2024 is the year of Irish Reunification 🇮🇪✊
So Data said! 🇮🇪
That's what sinn fein is basing it's policy on.
@linda sin féin are selling out their grassroots support. Ever since the army council stood down they have become career politicians who will do what ever it takes to get into power under control of the EU/WEF/who. Sin féins open borders policy is distroying Ireland. Shame on them, I'll never vote for them again.
and theres far too many cling ons and hand out ugees both in and supporting Sinn fein. Their fiscal policy is from outerspace too but they do take advice from a war council just like star trek.
And the DUP base their policy on?
And when it happens I hope to celebrate in a free Palestine!
💚🍉💚
Yes wonderful, I hope they offer to take in Palestinians who want to live there. Also Irishmen can go live in Gaza, peace and harmony
@@larsstougaard7097 Irish people have Ireland to live in.
@@internetual7350 along with the other scum that's presently been planted there.
@@internetual7350 LOL yeah living alongside all the Africans and Pakistanis they've imported ; )
@@larsstougaard7097 Neither Jordan or Egypt want to take Palestinians refugees because they have tried to overthrow the governments in their host countries.
I’m English and I think it should be but then I strongly feel that it’s solely a decision for the people living there to make.
Your education is wrong it's a occupation
We were never given that decision in the first place!
We’d need to rid ourselves of the colonists you left behind first.
@@zo0mpa Is as an Tuaisceart mé!🇮🇪🤣
the decision was mafe 100's of years ago. unionists do not accept democracy, they have always been the minority - they dont accept democracy because they are imperialists they believe they are superior to the Irish bog people , basically they are like white south Africans
Freedom for Northern Ireland....from Bangladesh ❤
Freedom for self determination. 🇬🇧🤚🏽
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then call it Ulster, them brits slapped the Northern Ireland name on it, meaning North of Ireland, meaning not part of Ireland, so for us native Ulster Irish, please call it Ulster and its more north east Ireland any way lol
@@relentless1989 It's not the whole of Ulster, which had 9 counties.
@@relentless1989 "them brits" those brits that unionist are so desperately trying to be?!?!?! Unionist that try to prove their british any chance they get
Thanks for the video. Some fact checking would have helped; some may be fixated on the errors peppering this presentation.
North of Ireland, not Northern Ireland.🇮🇪
If there is to be a reunited Ireland, then there should also be an independent Scotland.
That is why Northern Ireland can never be allowed to join the Republic. Domino effect. Also Scotland is too important with its resources to be allowed to leave. Where will England get cheap electricity and natural gas?
Im assuming your taking the piss.@andrewwotherspoona5722
The scots have said no twice now right? They haven’t decided on that as a society yet.
@@WeekzGod They've only had one referendum. Over 10 years ago, right?
@@andrewwotherspoona5722Britain doesn’t have a choice in the matter. It will be Irish people north and south of the border who will make that decision.
two systems, one island, one island ONE Ireland!
Eu many countries but not one land mass
Freedom for Ireland, love from Kerala, 🇮🇳India
No thanks we happy uk british northern ireland and we employ many kerala medics
Excellent video, thank you. I for one fully support the right of self determination for the Irish people. We Brits should be ashamed of our history.
The “O” in prOtestant is ‘soft’ pronunciation like “pot” not the ‘hard’ pronunciation like “tote” or “remote”.
(In Northern Ireland they pronounce it more like a soft “a” sound).
Sovereignty is not seen in many places in the west anymore ...
Excellent documentary ....explains a lot of things....free a unified Ireland 🇮🇪, such an injustice and fir so long.
Concise and accurate. Great video.
Ireland for the Irish. Including all the peoples of the North! We have no other home to go to.
Ireland has ireland.
NORTHERN IRELAND HAS NORTHERN IRELAND
A reasonable historical summary with a couple of inaccuracies.
No mention of the Irish Civil war in the Irish Free State n the 1920s
@@michaelhalsall5684 I think that was the main omission. The Civil War endured until 1930 and was essentially pro-treaty versus anti-treaty - the latter believing it didn't go far enough. The loss of Michael Collins (one of the plenipotentiaries to the Treaty) was a sad example. But of course it depends on your point of view. The lesson from history is that should Irish unification happen, it will not be without its subsequent problems.
Freedom for Ireland. Love from a fellow independance seeker from illegal English occupation.
English occupation? Sorry, but the population who live in Northern Ireland have always declared their British status despite the irridentist claims of Irish republicans who refuse to acknowledge there is another identity on the island. Great Britain acknowledges 3 nations on its island. Why can't Ireland except it on theirs?
@@cottownpicker Wow, triggered. LOL Did you get that information from the HMS divide and conquer fat sausage finger handbook? You're an extremist terrorist but everyone is entitled to their opinion. Jolly Good Sir.
I am free in Northern Ireland, I will be enslaved in a united Ireland, no thanks. Think before you speak...
@@cottownpickerMy family live in northern Ireland and have done for centuries at least. I am Irish, also not a republican. British can live here if they behave, just like anyone else.
Send the hundreds of thousands of Irish from Britain back to Ireland? You vote for it big man?
Good presentation despite the mispronunciation of some words.
The Irish government budget is consistently running a surplus. Unifying with the Republic will give Northern Ireland access to these funds, and the IDA could promote investment up there, similar to its success here in the republic. That doesn’t even consider the added benefit of not being ruled by the Brits, who very clearly dgaf about Northern Ireland anymore. Unification will give N.I. citizens the benefit of being ruled by a government that is closer geographically, socially, and economically.
We actually want N.I. to thrive, we’re not looking to force this upon anyone, we want Ireland to unify so that we can reach our fullest potential
🇮🇪 🤝 🇬🇧
The British have been doing everything to placate them such as letting them into the European Union market. Also Ireland consistently sheds many Irishmen. Whether they can sustain the North I do not know.
LOL run a surplus? When they're still paying off all the bad debt they took on from Anglo-Irish and all the other crooks they allowed to run riot in their country
Yeah I'm sure the Protestants are going to accept being ruled by that corrupt circus. The very reason so many Catholics accepted the status quo is precisely because they know what their own kind are like. Just as many Irish prefer life in England!
@@johnnotrealname8168 The brits didn't let them stay in the EU Single Market, the Irish Government got that for the North, as the uk couldn't allow them into one of the World's largest markets. There has been net immigration in Ireland for over a decade, including returning Irish people, that often work in the US and Australia for a career break after university. Also Ireland has given the North €500 million for cross-border projects.
The North's tax revenue in 2022 was £19 billion and the region's expenditure was £33 billion, does it make sense to you that a region could have a budget deficit of about 66% above tax revenue, when the regional Government wasn't sitting to spend it. In 2016, the budget deficit of the UK was £40 billion, yet the North, with 2.5% of the Uk's population, had a budget deficit of £10 billion 25% of the UK's budget deficit. The british invented creative accounting and 2.5% of a population creating 25% of a budget deficit looks a lot like creative accounting...... how much of that money ended up in Tory donors pockets?
@@roryoneill9444 So I will leave aside your odd writing about the Tory pocket-book but the U.K. provided the impetus for the Windsor agreement as proven by the two-track system. In any case, that is my point the North already has access to that market. As for immigration, Ireland has worse problems than the U.K. on that account and that is writing a lot. Furthermore, Irish emigration is staying rather high.
Middle income Catholics won't vote for a united Ireland if they are financially worse off in a united Ireland and they would be. Along with most protestants voting No there won't be a united Ireland. NI currently has the best of both worlds having access to EU, the south would have to reduce VAT, VRT etc to bring prices down to make it attractive to vote for a united Ireland.
As an Irishman from Belfast I can say, within the next ten years? No chance. Within the next 30? Fairly likely. The sooner the better 🙌
Let it be fast ...Belfast 🎉🍺
@@larsstougaard7097 I'll drink to that 🍻
Britain will call it early to try take Ireland by surprise. I’d be surprised if a border poll is any longer than 2 years at most.
@@maxpowerii7368 true and they would be wise to do so. If I was a unionist I'd be calling for it tomorrow to kick the can down the road. The issue there is that once the mechanism for a border poll is triggered, a further border poll can be called, the GFA does not set a limit on the frequency of one..however it would surely offset it a decade or so...that's why I'd put my money around the 30 year mark 😃
We'd be delighted if the UK did that. Once there is a border poll there can be another one every 7 years until the inevitable occurs. Those who wrote the Good Friday Agreement could see what was coming down the track.
@@maxpowerii7368
United Ireland is inevitable
Very interesting. Maybe do Turkey and Cyprus next?
If Dublin is ready to foot the bill for NI. Westminster does no longer want to pay. But is afraid that a secession could encourage Scotland and break the Union.
Ireland REUNITE
It can, as long as enough people vote for it.
It can very, very easily as long as the Dublin and London politicos don't impede it at every turn because it's not in their own selfish, short-term interests. The most likely scenario of course, especially with the gombeen cohort in Dublin.
the majority have always wanted freedom from british rule. unionists are a minority they are imperialist colonisers they are not democrats
I surely hope so- big supporter of the Irish People for their freedom
From what?
You don't know the first thing about it
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
I know the British Empire died a century ago… they are the laughing stock of Western Europe- the lapdogs of America
Freedom from what you clown. Freedom from the EU.
Ireland was not contested land like this video said it before the english was united under the irish king who defeated and teamed up with the norman vikings.
I hope so
And hence the reason why the Irish understands the pain of Palestinians. Looking forward to a united Ireland.
Free north Ireland from England support for Ireland from Bangladesh
If Britain can part ways with the EU, it's hypocritical to deny Northern Ireland the same right to self determination. I don't understand why the British hold onto it after so much strife and violence. It is better off with the rest of Ireland.
Who do you think wrote a referendum into the GFA? Who do you think forced Stormont to accept legal equality? You clearly don't know anything about the situation and just have an atavistic hatred of Britain.
The issue is that the majority in Northern-Ireland still want to remain within the European Union and the latter is not a sovereign state. Stop treating this as an equivalent issue.
because the brits are not democrats they hypocritical imperialists . why is it wrong when germany invades belgium or russia invades ukraine but not wrong that britain is still holding onto irish territory since the 16th century? i dont want to hear about a majority of people want that , unionists have never been amajority- ireland is a single entity the majority of us on the island say the whole island is iriish territory but brits and unionists dont recognise irish nationalist majorities that why violence was used to make them listen
Go all the way back to the Anglo Saxon invasion and the how they pushed the Britons into Wales, Cornwall and Brittany. Then you’ll find out why the Saxons are how they are.
Long overdue
🗣🎙🎶"A Nation Once Again..."
A United Ireland is inevitable.
Ireland must unify and be independent 🎉❤
It can but there is no must.
Irish-Palestinian Solidarity
Than you 🇮🇪🇵🇸
Unification seems inevitable. ROI have issues they need to address to calm the worries of northern voters (decrease immigration from non EU counties, increase housing being built, improve healthcare to be free at point of access) but these are not insurmountable, the ROI has a lot of money at it's disposal. NI isn't working, it has been in deficit since 1966 (essentially the time the linen and shipping industries collapsed, both predominantly unionist employers), with NI being bailed out by GB annually, this last year to the tune of 10 billion (plus the bonus 3 billion to get back to work in Stormont). Nationalists have waited this long, they have the patience and will chip away at it. Once there is one border poll, even if it fails, another one can be called every 7 years until the inevitable occurs.
He, there's no bail out. Anything Britain gives us, had been taken from us via taxes. 6.5bn is spent to continue/enforce British rule through security. Therefore only about 3.5bn is actually spent here each year.
So let the Taxpayers of the Republic pay for the financial mess that is Northern Ireland. Not without compensation and a management fee for the 1st 10 years.
@@ClaireSweetsSo certain communities cause crime problems and you use that against Britain?
Why is it inevitable? Ireland was only ever united under the British. The Republic is a corrupt circus. Literally a tax haven which looks rich on paper which has few public services to speak of.
Nationalists will very quickly find out that they've swapped competent governance for a mafia like system and the Protestants won't tolerate it. So Britain will have to intervene again like it did in 1921
All this would mean is that Ireland has to foot this bill. Northern-Ireland is already in the European Union's customs union so they will not get that benefit.
Of course we can ☘️
Rangers v Celtic becoming more influential in future years!
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Wales was the first colony!
Yma o hyd 🏴
2:54 What you also forgot to mention was Because this took place not long after the first wall were ended.
In the aftermath, ireland use the opportunity to tske advance on Britains weaker force.
Yes to a united ireland!
Terrible video you failed to mention the many genocides including the so called "famine" Ans didnt mention many other things that would of gave the video more clarity as to why there was division. and to say ireland was "Contested" Is ridiculous it was already united under the king who united all the kings it was a mix of irish And norman culture being irish peolle and vikings please do research next time. didnt even mention the civil war and how the north being given to the uk caused it
There were no "genocides" you neurotic liar. You know very well what happened in the famine. Your country is a joke because it's full of liars who talk absolute sh-te about the past. The north was partitioned because they didn't want to be ruled by the clowns in the south. Because no one wants to be ruled by the clowns in the south - not even most Irish who always p-ss off to somewhere else.
Yous were quite happy to raid England and Wales for slaves but when the Pope said it was fine for the English king to intervene you found out what the actual score was. Your ancestors couldn't fight ok? That's what the whole of human history was and frankly, still is. A fight. A contest. And if you could have colonised Britain you would have. But you couldn't so you didn't.
The Irish Civil War (1922-1923) was not caused by partition. The Boundary Commission (1925) (I think.) was thought to settle it according to the Articles of Agreement (1921).
@@johnnotrealname8168yes it was. It was a fight between treaty and anti treaty sides all leading back to the partition of the island. What do you think they were fighting about exactly?
Of course it’s possible, the qurstion is whether it’s probable.
Good video.
It has been decided that it will reunite within ten years. This statelet costs the UK too much money and the Unionist are too problematic.
The unionists would cause more problems in Ireland and would cost the same for Ireland.
Nothing to do with that. NATO wanted a united Western flank
You're absolutely right, it does cost too much money and the unionists are too much trouble. But why do you think Ireland wants that headache instead? The Republic needs to vote yes too. And right now, I can't see us doing that, not if means we have to deal with the nutjobs in the DUP and TUV who've been holding the British government to ransom for 2years.
@@davidfradgley751 The Unionist will be easily absorbed into Fine Gael, the Dubliners south of the river will love them.
@@davidfradgley751 It would clearly become quite unstable for the reasons you mention. There's probably a case for making a third country
The only reunification worth having, is one of hearts, and hopes. That takes an ability to stand in the shoes of " The Other " , and actually to take responsibility for that person's hopes and security.
The experience of Irish Catholics in Northern Ireland has been a hard one, up to the Good Friday Agreement. Now is their chance, together with the Ulster British, to experience the ordinary, mundane politics of taxation, healthcare, housing, environment.
That is necessary. It is necessary to build trust, and to heal wounds.
Enforced unification, by a majority of 50% +1, is a recipe for exchange of one discontented minority in NI, for another within Ireland as a whole.
There's no situation so bad, that it couldn't be made worse.
Oh please, the only way the Catholics got full legal equality was when the British forced Stormont to accept it
Yay team, go for it!!
You really need to get your facts straight. You say that Sinn Féin has been advocating for a united Ireland since its inception in 1905. At that time, Ireland had not yet been partitioned. That did not happen until 1921.
The background sounds are distracting and disturbing.
Best wishes to a United Ireland finally defeating colonialism
The British never had any right to rule any part of Ireland! 32 is inevitable
Yes, when there's a will, there's a way.
We want united ireland
What you want you don't always get and NI dosnt want to be
Apart from Brexit, the British don’t care much for NI.
The statelet costs Westminster billions £ every year. The ‘Loyal British Subjects” who descend from ‘planters’ many generations back are just a liability. They wave Union Jack flegs and wear Glasgow Rangers shirts with big bellies hanging out, many have bad teeth, but apart from that- they just don’t have much in common with their British cousins anymore.
I grew up in England and nobody could give half a sh1te about NI and the bigotry that goes on.
Colonising has gone out of fashion, the Brits don’t trade slaves or take over countries anymore (although they do help the Yanks try to)… all that history is so ‘last century’. The democratic system introduced by the British is no longer effective because demographics have changed since partition, that ridiculous border deals drawn to guarantee Protestant/ Loyalist supremacy for ever.
But, since our food isn’t being exported by foreign colonists during times of famine, the native population has recovered to pre famine levels.
Ireland is getting taller every generation now that we are allowed to keep some of the food we produce.
We’ve lost the run ourselves lately, the cheek of us thinking we don’t need foreign monarchs to rule us.
Piss off then 😊
It is possible. After all, if the inhabitants of said regions are of a mind, they can push for it.
In india day by day fear of gujarat type communal clashes democracy in danger peoples are feared UNO intervention is necessary please protect the secularism in india
Much is made of the attitudes of those not deeply tribal , neither Nationist nor Unionist ppl, who will decide the future of NI. Im sure this is case. But equally important, is the attitude of London. English ppl, by and large, would be quite happy to see the back of NI. As Brexit bites harder innthe coming decades, it will be harder to justify spending on NI, at the expense of Bradford, or Burnley or Glasgow for example. Most NI folk i know, tend to assume London will continue with their funding of NI, infinitely . I don't know when the break will come, but it's not a question of "if" , but "when". Dublin better get ready to start writing checks for GBP 12 B per year tontake over at some point.
Yes
Yes!
We want unity
I personally as an irish man think no
nice one for that... you left us behind once and now people like you want to leave us behind again... you're not a real irishman, you're a west brit most likely.
Take it down from the mast Irish traitors. It's the flag we Republicans claim. It can never belong to free staters because they brought on it nothing but shame. 🎵🇮🇪🎵
you ignorant silly
In wisdom all can be accomplish
Hopefully Scotland will leave the UK as well over 80% of 16-35 year olds in Scotland want Independence so its just a matter of time.
55% in Wales. It’s coming it’s just a waiting game.
The thing many people forget is that should a border poll happen BOTH the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland have to vote yes. Im not so certain the Republic will, especially with the types of concessions certain people have been talking about eg joining the commonwealth or recognising the British monarchy, changing our flag and anthem. Weve been free from the monarchy and the empire for a very long time any attempt to change that in any way, even small ways will not be accepted by The Republic. Northern Ireland is either absored into the current independent sovereign REPUBLIC, or it stays in the UK, there is no halfway, not as far as the people of Ireland are concerned.
Well you have to consider as well that the new North costintuencies will be really powerful. 30-35% of new deputies will come from the North. If unionist realize it, it would be a big problem !
The Republic will vote for it don’t be daft
Cornwall or Wales was England's first colony! x 🏴
Wales and Cornwall were the same people. They got cut off during the Saxon invasion
In 1918 it says Sinn Féin took 46.9% of the vote and 73 of the 105 seats. That is a bit misleading. 1 in 4 of the Irish seats were uncontested Sinn Féin wins. Had they been contested Sinn Féin's percentage would have been much higher. Other nationalist parties took 6 seats.
🚨🚨Even if a united Ireland did come into existence, It would not be a smooth and easy event. Even if the vast majority of Northern Irish unionist remained peaceful during this time... If a very small minority of Northern Irish unionist decided to put up an armed response, The Republic of Ireland wouldn't be able to cope with it. That is the *FACT* The irish defence forces are under funded and under equipped, and under manned. There are barley 6,000 troops at the moment! How can they deal with it? They couldn't. Please understand this very real fact. I'm non bias and bipartisan. I'm just stating some serious facts. A legal democratic yes vote for a united Ireland doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be smooth sailing. It will be tough and the Irish republic need to be prepared.
Serious question, where are they going to get arms and funding from? They wont have support from Britain and the security services wont turn a blind eye anymore.
They make their money now by dealing drugs (ironicly supplied by the Dublin cartel - who threatened to massacre them after they lost one of their guns - it was promptly returned)
It's an interesting point, one I raised on a Podcast. Apparently the issue would be more for the Gardai than the military as it would be a domestic law issue. Training up special divisions of the police to deal with terrorism and expanding those groups for paramilitary engagement would be possible. ROI is a neutral country, so doing it this way would not pose issues with neutrality, or I think bother Irish voters too much who are very protective of neutrality.
If anyone picks up guns they will be carted off to jail. Unionist planters can always go back to Scotland if they don't like it here in Ireland.
Well maybe but this is all happening in the context of demographic decline in the unionist population and a move towards the centre in the form of the alliance party.The protestant community is decreasing and is far older than the catholic one.Also the republic of ireland will come under increasing pressure from the EU and NATO to build up our military regardless of what happens in the north because we are the back door into europe.
@@aengusryan5948 true, and in reality the province already one of the best trained police forces in the world to deal with such situations. It's not like the PSNI infrastructure, officers and expertise would just disappear. Having said that, there's no appetite for such violence in this day and age...and certainly when the unity question comes to pass, the appetite would be even less so.
Ulster is irish always was always will be
Not true
9 counties not the illegally occupied 6! 🇮🇪💚
The Northern Irish are a proud people. It is their choice. External agencies, with agendas, should leave the Northern Irish to be who they want to be.
You're wrong there pal....The whole Island will have their say.
NI isn't a country or a nation.
It's 6 counties out of the 32 in Ireland that still remain occupied by Britain and ruled by Britain.
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Northern Ireland deserves to remain it's own nation, we would be enslaved being part of Ireland! No thanks
Why?
Support the Chinese and Indians asserting their rights in Malaysia! Time for the lazy Malays to move to one side
Thanks
@@mrmillslee They're anti white. In this context they'll support the anti-British position. On a different video they'll support the replacement immigration happening in the ROI
Northern Ireland is not a country
Getting closer every day
And if it happens it will be a farce ; ) Because Ireland was only ever united under the British Empire
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Mass uncontrolled immigration will bring the Irish together ! They will have 1 common goal to protect their borders against unwanted mass migration 👍 Ireland be strong 👍💯
Where’s the benefit? Those in the north literally have the best of both worlds.
This just effectively comes down to ‘feels’.
Ingurland needs to leave its colonialist mindset and accept freedom for Ireland and freedom for Palestine.
It has got nothing to do with freedom mate.
I live in england but honestly i would like ireland as one and do well in the future
What’s your opinion on Wales and Scotland?
Yes like Scotland now england
Our country is officially known as Ireland. The Republic of Ireland is a description of the state and is also the name of our football team. It's like calling France, the Republic of France, or saying the Statelet of Northern Ireland.
The official name of France is “La République française”.
Strictly speaking your country is officially known as Éire but go on. Edit: Northern-Ireland is not a Statelet but a Kingdom that has been united to Great-Britain. Or whatever the @~?£ "Consociational devolved legislature within unitary constitutional monarchy" is.
@@johnnotrealname8168Eire in Gaelic, Ireland in English. Northern Ireland is an invention. There was only ever one kingdom - Ireland. If you can show me the Crown Jewels of Northern Ireland I’ll let you have the argument. 😂
@@kevfitz8087 No, the official version is in Irish.
It was partitioned...also Ireland is an invention.
Wrong and wrong
In the Catholic community voted overwhelmingly for remaining in the EU. The Protestant community voted strongly to leave the EU. The term "community" is used because not all raised Catholic or Protestant do not believe or practice their childhood teligion or their grandparents' religion. But for institutional and cultural eason people either identify as "catholic community" or "Protestant community" or have those identities pushed on them.
The British vehemently followed similar repressive policies in India as well. Their divide and rule strategy led to the several massacres and finally the partition of India.
It’s quite correct as one of your contributors mentioned that the Republic of Ireland do not have a religious divide, as their protestant population has been driven out, and reduced from 11% down to 3%, since they gained their independence, Dublin doesnt discriminate, as their history shows, they much prefer ethnic cleansing.
In Contrast Northern Ireland's catholic population has increased considerably and makes up just under 50% of the Northern Irish population. A significant amount of that increase has been Catholic’s driven out of the Republic of Ireland to settle in Northern Ireland to buy a house and start a family.
Northern Ireland is doing something right in spite of the Irish Republican gas-lighting, and both Protestants and Catholic’s driven out of the Republic of Ireland are not in a hurry to return to the horror that the three Ulster counties acquired by the Irish Republic have had to endure to this day. Totally ignoring the plight of everyone else outside the European Pale around Dublin.
Economic downturn aside, although that is dubious as plenty of Catholics fled to the Republic or Free-State, the protestants in the South were not persecuted.
Yes, Ireland's history of ethnic cleansing must be put front and centre in this debate
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@@johnnotrealname8168there were some terrible examples of Protestants that were attacked at the time, and recriminations by the IRA on Anglo Irish families that were literally burned out of their country estates. It is sad looking back that it got to that. When you think that all Ireland had wanted at the time was home rule and the British govt stupidly refused it (ironic in this age of devolution!) - the reason Ireland became a republic is because of the stupidity of the British establishment and continuing to treat the Irish as second class citizens. It could have been very different. Yet here we are.
Will you please come into the Reality of the 21st century.
I support United Ireland 🇮🇪🍀🇵🇸
Love from India 🇮🇳♥🇮🇪🇵🇸
What about we northern irish 900 plus years british ..
Reunification would mean ROI having the cost to maintain a forgotten NI (by UK). Although ROI has a good economy, I don’t believe it wouldn’t be viable, at least not short term, which would greatly affect the republic and its citizens needing support.
Ok tell me why Ireland couldn’t afford to reunify?
RoI can afford it you haven’t got a clue
Very sad to read this Irish conflict from far away Singapore
I'm Irish, and I'm not sure now is a good time for reunification. The North still has further to go on it's sectarian divide, which we don't have in the Republic. Plus their economy has a large deficit every year, and London has to prop them up with money. I don't see what the issue is being divided at present, as both peoples can move, work and live on either side of the border freely. It's not like East/West Germany at all.
So unification is only desirable with a good economy? That is rather unfair on Britain, she sets the conditions for greatness only for her to be snatched away. Anyway, I hope it goes well for them.
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