Outboard Battle (Mercury Vs Evinrude Vs Yamaha)
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I’m a lobsterman up here in Maine and I got a Yamaha similar to yours except mine is older. It was made in 91. I have it on the back of a Lund that I use to get out to my mooring every morning. I work summer and winter. I’ve had a merc but had to get rid of it because it simply wouldn’t start if the temperature was below 5 degrees Fahrenheit without starter fluid. So I bought an older eve ride, and I had the same problem when it got below 20 degrees. Mechanics told me it was because they are two strokes. I didn’t have money for a new 4 stroke so I bought an old Yamaha 2 stroke and I have yet to have a day cold enough that it won’t start and I’ve used it for three years. It struggles on days that are below zero but always starts within ten pulls. It even has started as cold as -17 Fahrenheit. Yamahas are amazing.
My evinrude 25 triple hates the cold lol it will start but it took 20 pulls then started great all day
I find that most need to be re-jetted to run property in colder climates. They have a generic jetting stock that works pretty well in most conditions, but will falter in extreme conditions. I’ve got an old early 70’s Evinrude that was worked in Alaska for a while. After getting it tuned right, it starts with within 3 pulls no matter how cold.
Our E-tec 25 will start in extremely cold weather with just a bump of the starter and as a big plus it will pull start and run with a totally dead battery on the first pull every time ,"but" its negative its a challenge when it comes to self service if you do have an issue,, its 6 years old and we have never had any issues with since it was new but like all injected outboards one has to be very fussy about a very clean fuel system. its fuel use compared to our Yamaha 2 stroke is amazing . only had to replace plugs on it twice during its lifetime , very clean running motor. will out perform a friends mercury 25 2 stroke out of the hole but has about the same top speed .. (same boats same pitch prop)
i suspect using starting fluid on a 2 stroke was part of your issue somewhere down the line. extremely bad for it. these motors were designed to run in sub-zero temps, and i've never had starting issues if you go up a size or 2 on the main jets for cold weather.
If you had an e tec that wouldn't be an issue. I've never had any issues starting my evinrude 200 in single digits on my boat. And that's an older carb motor.
I think the big takeaway here is, as long as you take care of your engine properly, it will always run great. I have learned a lot about engine repairs watching your videos and appreciate your advice
Yamaha is by far the best out of these three in my opinion, I’ve hade one for over 15 years and it has got me anywhere I’ve ever desired to go and has put lasted 3 boat
Mercury, Yamaha, Suzuki and even Honda build great motors. You won’t go wrong with any of these.
@@melrose9252idk about Honda
Had my merc for 26 years and has never missed a beat
SOME INFO ABOUT THESE YAMAHA ENGINES TO ANYONE INTERESTED: Yamaha has made several 2cylinder 25Hp 2 stroke motors over the years. This particular model is a 6L2 series (395cc) as noted by the dual carbs and oil injection. The oil injected 6L2 models have a low oil and overheat warning system which illuminates a warning light and reduces RPM to about 2000. A really nice feature. Later {after about 1997} 6L2 models sold in the USA are PREMIX at 100-1 but I recommend 75-1 synthetic or 50-1 conventional. Yamaha also made a 2 stroke 25hp in the mid 1990s with a single carb 430cc which is a C25. They also made a 495cc single carb 2 stroke 25hp for many, many years which was also a 25, C25 or E25 (ENDURO). Enduro was only sold in other markets but they sometimes show up especially here in Florida. IMHO the 6L2 series is the smoothest and most refined of the Yamaha 25 2strokes. It has the easiest - by far- effort to pull start. It has multiple shallow drive positions. It has a forward mounted shifter. Available oil injection- which is excellent by the way. If the carbs and timing is set properly, it is far and away the best idling conventional 2stroke 25. The other single carb models however are less refined but simple and beefier built IMHO. MANY of the C25s have a carb with an external pilot (idle) jet. That means it can be removed and cleaned without taking off the carb- a nice feature. Of course, a single carb is easy to clean anyway. Many women simply cannot pull start a cold C25- especially a 495cc with good compression. But, all these 25s were available with electric start. Additionally, Yamaha made a 3cylinder 25HP as well. ThatBoatGuy knows all this of course, but this might be useful to anyone else.
I have a 2010 Yamaha 25 with 2 carbs. It saise to run the oil mixture 100/1. I use Yamaha lube at 50/1. She idles a little ruff with that oil mixture but I’m ok with that.
The C25 is the bullet proof sought after model with a single carb. They rarely ever have carb issues, easier to clean. And idle just as well as the oil injected model if you run the mixture 75-1 no one runs there Yamaha 100-1 unless there doing a ounce a year valve piston cleaning run. After that back to 50-1 or 75-1 mix. Me personally I run 50-1 and if I'm low on 2 stroke oil i run 75-1 conventional. With that said the 1998 1999 model is the most desirable years. The oil injection models blow up all the time. They loose oil from clogged tube or the plastic feed pump driven by a metal gear breaks and the motor gets burned up. Thats why everyone eliminated the oil feed pumps as soon as the warranty was up small to big Yamaha,s ...
Its engine noise thats so Yamaha reminds me of a dirtbike.
For a second I thought you were going run all 3 at same time.... I was thing, “that’s it, I’m putting 75hp on my 1436”😂
Me too ! I Really wanted to see the Speed !
I run a 40 2 stroke Johnson on my 1436 and it would run mid 40s with a 17 pitch prop I run a 30 hp efi now the 40 was to much 🙈
@@sethpurvis8680 I know that was a fun ride
@@nate4036 it was a blast but it was sketchy on the local rivers being shallow with logs and all I have my 30 jacked way up with a modded prop and it runs with half the prop out of the water so I don’t hardly hit anything anymore
I thought he was going to as well and was screaming in my head he was going to capsize it
Good job, very interesting from a former small outboard mechanic's viewpoint. Ya, the Evinrude ran like a 4 stroke, very smooth. Merc's seem to be speed demons when they run (right). The Yamhaha's idle is like an old Mariner, LOL. If I were going to do a test like that fairly, I'd find the max safe RPM of engine, prop it so it can hit near top limit. Be sure boat always has same weight in it, and wait for a day with low wind/wave action. Trim the motor as high as possible short of porpoising and/or prop ventilation. BTW, nice camera work. You must have used a stabilizer gimbal?
I really enjoy your vids! Personally I prefer the shift on throttle of the Merc, much better for me in tight quarters and currents. Really would be cool to ass the RPM info for these test too.
That was a fantastic video, very interesting to see the results. Thankyou very much for your time. And for me I think I would rather have the Evenrude E-Tec for the controls are very well set out and the E-Start too. Take care.
As someone who's mechanically inept, I think it's badass that you can pop the cover, clean the carb and have the Yamaha running in the same month, let alone on the same day.
In the sam hour...
It's a carb. It's simple 👌🏻👍🏻
And not have parts left over.
totally badass :)
Yeah carbie cleans are a pita but it gets expensive if you can't do it yourself
Old Evinrude has always done me good. My '79 20hp is an absolute work horse. My grandfather bought it new in '79 for a Lund 14ft deep wide aluminum. It's still on that boat going strong to this day.
My dad used to have a 1971 9.9 mercury. His brother wanted to use it but he (the brother) didn't tighten it enough so the motor came flying off. That 9.9 was my dads favorite motor
That's awesome
The speed difference here was very likely due to the difference in the props, not necessarily the motors.
No shit
I don't get it then, how come the lowest pitched prop went the fastest?
@@WuTangcl RPM,s which we don't know on all 3 motors, makes a big difference. Which would mean a lower pitch prop with say 1,000 more RPM can mean a higher speed.
@@dougsprojects6431 Ah ok, thank you, I'm still learning, bought my first boat just last year. I've got a 1982 Yamaha 25hp and think about changing its prop to 11 pitch instead of 10. But wondering if it would make such a difference in top speed.
@@WuTangcl I'd look up the recommended pitch for the boat size and weight.
Your motor will have a MAX RPM and you want to be able to get as close to that as you can, without going over, that will give you your best speed and best cruse speed.
Of course, you also need to know how to properly trim your boat/motor out.
Good vid man! I've always enjoyed messing around with outboards and especially love the older 2 strokes. Keep the awesome content coming!
=j
I just bought a Yamaha 4-stroke 25hp. I love that engine, it is the only 25hp 4-stroke that is still 2 cylinders so the power-weight ratio is amazing on it. I can start it sitting down with one hand, runs like a champ. Highly recommended.
I'm actually amazed and impressed by your boat at all the motors in testing you do and the transom is still hanging tough
It'd be interesting to test them with all having the same prop.
Also, did they all have the same trim setting? I don't know if any of them has any trim control, but trimming them out, as best you can even with a manual trim, will also make a difference.
From the triple shot, they all appeared to have a different trim position which will affect top speed.
I also find its best to have one of each engine, in case one breaks. Having different brands just allows you to find parts easier or shop the sales. Well played sir.
Hard to beat a Yamaha, but they all seemed to run great!!!
Today, Yamaha is the worst. Merc, Suzuki, Evinrude, even Tohatsu is better
@@aggelib117 lol your just biased. You don’t actually know what’s better
@@-di-johnson6706 From my experience, Yamaha just feels worse than the others i mentioned.
Cheaply made just like thier atv's garbage 🗑
@@-di-johnson6706
Loved the video!!! I was shocked though. I thought the e-tech would have been the fastest, but I got a mercury so I was excited 😛
#mercurypower
I got a good deal on an 89 Ranger 363V with a 150hp V6 outboard. After going over everything I determined the exhaust gaskets were bad, the water pump was bad, the shift/throttle linkage was installed wrong and there was no hook up for the fuel. The power tilt & trim did not work at all. Long story short, I ordered parts the day I brought the boat home, 4 days later and 6 hours of labor and she fired up for the first time in over 20 years. Runs like a champ. Great video, I just wish you could have run them all three foe a few min. That would have been stellar
You are the man brother I admire your work on CZcams Inspire lots of people out there
I run a 25 E Tec on my 14 foot smokercraft, Love the motor and the way the tiller is set up.
How fast you getting?
What year is your smokercraft . I had an 86 . Put some work into it took out the bench seats and put an aluminum floor in with pedestal seats in it perfect little fishing boat
@@backtheblue-------502 Hello, Mine is a 85 and I put peds and swivels too, put a live well as well.
Had a Evinrude 60 on the boat I used to have, never stopped, always started, just a tune up at the start of the season here in Colorado. Perfect all year every year. I was hoping that you were going to run all 3 at the same time. Lock down the 2 outside straight, start moving, open them full, stir with the center one. Crazy I know but I was hoping to see that
Fantastic video brotha..as always...Thanks so much !!
As a merc owner for years I love their dependability and power at the prop, but the Never-rude looked like a really nice motor
If it’s not an Evinrude…..it’s a knock off. Evinrude was the first……
@@AAE-cg1il that's like saying if a car isn't a Ford it's a knock off
@@airlesscanvas2887 and that would be true.
Those Etec Evinrudes really are something,sips fuel and oil,quiet idle- shame they are discontinued....I have a Etec 60 on my 4.35 runabout not 1 single problem with it after buying it new as an upgrade in 2014----starts one revolution of the flywheel EVERYTIME
Don't know if it's possible but would love to see all three of those Motors going at the same time
It's possible, i tried two yamaha 40 runs together
@@hangtuah9848
Ofcourse it is. However u don't want to mix match engines/props, bc that will end in one over working the other.
@@joshfrank1680 yes, I've tried mix yamaha 40hp with 15hp, the 15 almost drop at sea
@@hangtuah9848 how fast did you go
@@FULLY_6IXX666 sorry i dont know, i tried at 30ft fisherman boat , we dont have meters 😅
Glad to see you are having fun. I'm havin fun watchin.
I used an E-Tec 25 for a week a couple years ago when it came with an island cabin that we rented. I thought it was awesome, especially the electric tilt and trim. We have an old Suzuki 25 and it has been a reliable workhorse too but I definitely miss the power trim. I had a Yamaha 15 that I got new 30 years ago and it didn't last very long. (I think it might have had a crank bearing fail when I over-revved it.) Your beater Jon boat always cracks me up, because it looks like something that I would use. Thanks for the video!
Did you push the cabin around the island or push the island around with the e-etc 25? Lol
@@edloewen2169 Excellent question! I guess I should have clarified that the E-Tec was mounted on a boat that was included with the island cabin rental. Lol
Evinrude sounded ACE! and looked good. Yammy was perfect, great test brother solid thumbs up as usual, keep up the good work!!! ;)
Mercury for life. I have a 1971 merc 500 and the thing is just rock solid even at 50 years old
Hang on to that old 50. Some of the best engines Mercury made were in the late 60’s through the 70’s. I was always a Mercury fan back then. I switched to Yamaha and never looked back. Mercury will give you more speed but Yamaha motors are now more reliable, quiet, and fuel efficient. I’ve had 4 different motors since the late 80’ and never had a issue.
@@stanm9396 I have no plan on getting rid of it anytime soon. I just rebuilt the powerhead 2 years ago. It’s terrible on fuel, loud as hell, and I wouldn’t trade it for anything. The boat has been in my family since 1961, and I believe they bought the motor brand new.
I have the 90 hp big brother to the Yamaha on my boat and I love it. It's an 84 and has been completely reworked and runs like a champ
I really enjoy your videos...recently watched your Outboard Battle episode and was wondering what phone app you used to measure speed, avg speed, etc.? Have you tried others and determined this one is best for you?
Thanks, Barry
Personally like the merc as it’s great for current’s where you need to reverse quickly. The way it changes form drive to reverse so easily is really nice, usually they run really nice as well
Can’t beat a Yamaha. I love the sound of it. The Mercury which I had is a beast and very reliable. As for the evinrude I never liked them. I had one and didn’t last as well with my friend. It didn’t last long.
my dad has always been a fan of mercury since he's more into reliability and weight more than speed. he has a 2004 2 stroke that still runs beautifully and starts on the second pull cold start
@@airlesscanvas2887 I hate how loud the Yamaha is. I like my motors whiter. Typically, Nah, Op just don’t understand classic motors. My dad and I worked on my grandmothers 1978 5 speed Evinrude motor. We also got a 2011 Mercury. Mercury has so Amy issues.Thing still kicks now and it’s almost been on the lakes for over 40 years. Don’t know why people don’t like Evinrudes. Here’s a thing to consider,
@@airlesscanvas2887 I hate how loud the Yamaha is. I like my motors whiter. Typically, Nah, Op just don’t understand classic motors. My dad and I worked on my grandmothers 1978 5 speed Evinrude motor. We also got a 2011 Mercury. Mercury has so Amy issues. Thing still kicks now and it’s almost been on the lakes for over 40 years. Don’t know why people don’t like Evinrudes. Here’s a thing to consider,
@@zaynes5094 u got a bad mercury then lol
@@zaynes5094 my dads motor still runs like its new. 2 pull cold start 18 year old motor. So either you just got a bad motor or if you got it used the previous owner didn't take good care of it or you didn't take good care of it. My dad takes great care of his merc and it runs perfectly
Man I started following you at like 7k subs. Great work my man
Dude, I wish I had a friend like you... Thanks for doing this channel.
I love finding these channels, I pulled a 1978 merc 70hp out of a barn whole family thinks I'm wasting money but I love 2 strokes 🙃
Keep that motor, those things run better then most new mercs. Plus those things sound beautifull
@@jeddelse9036 nah. Never had an issue with my newish Mercury
Tell them they’re wasting money by getting the newest technology, if not tell them to stop wasting money on apparel
Always a Mercury fan and your demo confirmed my thoughts but the Evinrude was very impressive. Is there a chance to check fuel consumption as well next time please? Thanks!
Yamaha all day, I rather have a reliable motor than be stranded at the water hole. It isn't fun, my buddy had a 2016 Mercury that broke a crankshaft already.
Fuel consumption top priority after ease of starting and running.
@@tonyv9712< I had a friend who kept blowing pistons in his Yamaha. Sad.
It seems like the Evinrude might be the most efficient of the three... The Merc had a great top end, the Yamaha appeared to be in the middle... All in all, great job on the demo!
Love your videos keep bringing them out
I’m E-Tec all the way! However, is there an issue with the parts? Can you program the computer to use XD-100 by yourself?
Don't know about reliability and serviceability (simplicity/parts availability) but the ETEC ran best... would love to see some prop pitch/cup experimentation with it.
The etec is fuel injected. Fuel injection will always run better then carburetors. But I would take the Merc or yam over that etec any day. That’s just my opinion.
the evinrude looked and sounded the best IMO
It’s the newest which is probably why
@@floridafishermanpace798 Well yea since he wanted them to be 2-stroke lol
@@aulinjake he could have used an older evinrude obviously. He probably just doesn’t have one right now
@@floridafishermanpace798 True. I love the ’new’ 2-stroke technology though :) but the old Evinrude’s sound really mean as well :D
@@aulinjake i think yamaha 2 strokes sound the best, it just, different. A 25 2stroke will sound the same as a 250 v8, just a bit less beafy. Also yamahas can take alot od abuse, which is why fishermen love them.
What brand of jon boat is it? Was the transom reinforced with the aluminum diamond plate?
I have an evinrude 35 hp two stroke. It runs amazing, and is a super strong motor. I’ve always liked evinrudes, but never tried the e-tecs. Any opinions or background on them?
evenrude has always been my favorite, but I remember your yamaha abuse video... Mercury is my least favorite. You should bring them up and try them on my homemade barrel boat, I am up near jacksonville. thanks for the awesome content.
it all depends on the HP. so pretty subjective, and if you are talking reliability its all in the maintenance...some require more than others and 90% of them are just trashed. if you want speed in the say V6 class, Mercury is usually the fastest, but of course tons of factors there. the biggest speed boost comes with setup (ie. setback, prop, some mild tuning sometimes)
That would make an awesome video!
@@ct1762 etec is faster most off te times but what you say is correct
Yea those are good motors
I like Mercury more and then 7's Marine then Yamaha
I've just put a new merc 20hp 4 stroke on my new home built 4.2m ... tops out at 28mph ... a fantastic little motor ... thought about the 25hp but 20kg heavier and for me another 2 thousand nz pesos.
Bro..can you review suzuki vs Honda 15HP or 20HP ?🙏🏻 i got trouble how to choose between that which one is good fast and last longer 🙏🏻
Hey i have a question, want app do you use to measure your speed on the boat because is have a boat to and i don’t know how fast it goes and i want to know how fast it can go
Ive got a yamu 25 just like that, most reliable engine ever
yeah i vote Yamaha too, the best🌟
I got a 2001 2 stroke 30hp yamaha best motor ever hand down
I have a yamaha 2001 2 stroke 40 3cil the version With Electric start power trim and remote steering best thing ever most of the times it stays 6+ months without use and all it needs is fresh gas, never needed a carb jogos all it do is before storing it i disconnect the gas plug and let it run untill it runs out of gas and spray the carbs With wd 40 ( im from Brasil so all gas comes with ethanol)
As long as the idle mixture screw on the carburetor doesn't break. I have seen a ton of them break.
I have 2 Yamahas 130 and never had a problem now I have 2 Suzuki 150 had to take them to my mechanic 3 times in 1 month
Damn I watched the whole video thinking you were gonna let all 3 rip at the same time. You should do another video.
I have a 84 evinrude/johnson 15hp and I have only cleaned the 1 carb a couple of times in 35 years...It always runs good. I also have a 2000 Yamaha 25 2 stroke and the carbs are a pain in the ass. They both go the same speed...In my mind the 84 Evinrude is amazing.
I am an etech owner, had mercs, Johnson, (omc) their all good
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS ...!
I always say if I ever have a problem w my outboard, I would fly YOU to Ct to fix it !!!
Watch the GPS on the third run. 32mph, then drops instantly to 22, then right up to 28 where it stayed. I dont think the boat ever went 32. Some GPS's are programmed to somewhat "predict" your next speed based on your previous acceleration so you aren't always lagging a few mph behind your true speed. Based on his acceleration it expected him to be going 32 the next time it updated, but he wasn't... he was going 28. When his speed was suddenly much lower than anticipated, the gps thought that was deceleration and over corrected based on that deviation and calculated rate of change, then finally it dialed in on his true constant speed.... 28mph.
Yamaha sounds like summer to me. Fishing in friends tinnies or going out to the local surf breaks when we were kids.
Had an ETEC 90 on my 18ft fast fishing boat. Best engine I've ever owned. Never missed a beat once. Would buy one again tomorrow.
Thanks for all the things you are showing and teaching us!
Say you could have your pick of a 30 hp 2-stroke engine in good condition from the late nineties. Would you choose OMC, Tohatsu, Yamaha or what?
I'd pick an omc because they are pretty cheap and are reliable when fixed up correctly
All were great motors, but Mercury for me. Would like to see the Merc running without the permatrim on.
Man that evinrude was a smooth quiet running motor... that's a nice unit...
said no one. Evinrude went out of business because they suck. BPD bought them...turned them into the worst reliability on the market. Are you new?
@@mjethier turns out evinrude thinks you suck too... go figure
@@JustOutHereTinkering butt hurt much? Theres a reason they went out of business.
Thanks for the content, all motors sounded strong to me.
Can't go wrong with either one of these motors, great job on the video
It looked like the e-tech planed out faster to me.
Evinrude idled the smoothest of all three and has good design. Always like an electric start. Due to the Ford/Chevy bias thing, most will not give it a fair review. All three are solid motors and will last along time
Fab vid! Awesome topic! Interesting, would be to swap the prop pitch on all to models to establish their comparabiles.
Love the video but id love to see this done with same pitch and diameter props as well as getting the max rpm out of each engine with the right prop.
Love MERCS but yes all great motors. 2x Stroke mixing gas and hauling ass
I love how he brought an electric trolling motor...for incase his engine dies 🤣
All trolling motors are electric why would you specify that it’s electric😂
@@mattgt2847 Are they? What's wrong with a 2-4 hp gasoline trolling motor?
@@Oscarrrrrrrrrrr no trolling motors are all battery powered there’s no such thing as a gas trolling motor. If it looks like a trolling motor and it’s gas that’s called a outboard motor
@@mattgt2847 I guess that depends on where you're from. If you have two outboard motors, one for driving the boat normally and the other for trolling, it would make sense to refer to one of them as the trolling motor (to me at least!). What did people use to call them before the advent of electric outboards?
@@Oscarrrrrrrrrrr paddles
What would be your favourite (silent) 4 stroke engine in the range of 5-15hp?
You Know We were all Waiting to see All 3 At the same time ! I Was Hoping it would be at the End. What I Want to know is Which motor Would YOU Pick as Far as Reliability & Ease of Repair / Low Repair cost.
The yammy is the nicest sounding and the most reliable thing ever
In my opinion, these are all some of the finest outboards on the market and they are all awesome engines.
The Mercury, I have that same motor it’s a reliable beast.
Same
mercury is the shittiest one :D
@@ristokurki2147 if you say so, I love mine
I have the same one pulls so hard to the right I can’t drive it wide open, trim tab is turned as far as it can go.
@@chrispeterson1247 I don’t have that issue and it’s not the motors fault
buying a pontoon boat and basing my final decision on the best engine. Have a choice between 2003 Honda 50hp 4 stroke vs a 2003 40hp Evenrude. Can you advise me as the best choice.
I’m a Yamaha guy, atleast when it comes to power sports but my dad had a small merc on a canoe and a storm came in and the canoe capsized, unfortunately my dad lost his best friend in the accident but the dog and my dad made it out. Divers got pretty much everything back including the merc, when dad was feeling good again he took the merc apart after it had been sitting at the bottom of the lake for a few days got it cleaned up and flushed out. Cranked right up like it was new. All solid motors
Equally all good in my opinion. I’d like to see you restore your boat up. I’ve seen the nice work you do, let’s see ya tidy that boat
Definitely
Can u tell me what brand his boat is ?
@@ryanjacobsen9557 haven’t a clue pal.
Interesting that the old merc was the fastest I would have thought the etec would have creamed it...the other thing to be mindful is that etec's do not like fuel contamination unlike the old carb motors you just can't clean the carb and go again...bad fuel equals a bad day if you own an etec.
mercury outboard turns more rpms
I feel kinda sad, I like the water, working on a boat and...warm weather but I am living in Alaska! Your channel is really good, keep it up!
I in Alaska To. It looks like a nice place where this guy is at
Hey man; I have got that same mercury 25hp 2 stroke; in the fall time I took a few of my old neighbors out for some fishing; we hopped around to different holes out here in eastern NC and towards the end of the day, near dusk, I pulled the cord and nothing...Pulled for a solid 15 minutes, and it didn't sound like it was getting any spark; long story short we had to get towed back. I keep the carb cleaned and besides, this merc starts on the first or second pull every time! Got home, checked fuel, it's getting fuel; changed plugs, no luck; did some research and it appears that the CDI box is bad; does that sound like a possibility? Just want to confirm before buying a new CDI box.
I go Yamaha all the way, they are just so reliable.
Yeah
Same!
No I go evinrude
I have 25 Yamaha and I don't use my boat much during wet season and it sits for 3 or 4months at a time and it always starts 3rd or 4th pull after sitting for that long Yamaha all the way
In enething they do......using Yamaha audio components...they are realy good, near exelent in the price range of a products they do/sell👍🙂
The prop pitch isn't much of a factor unless the motors have the same gear ratio, right? The way to test (IMHO) would be to put a prop on each motor that pushes it on that specific boat the max of the boat's RPM range. If all motors are operating at WOT at their max RPM's allowed, then you'll be comparing apples to apples, no?
Actually no. There are so many variables. Prop pitch and size of prop is one. Also WOT on each motor can be different.
I have Mercs. They can be trouble sometimes. However, they're generally out ahead of everything else. Enjoyed the video.
Do we have ThatBoatGuys like you around the Twin Cities, Minnesota area?
That Mercury has to be a 30hp with 25 stickers lol. Mercury all the way.
Mercury absolute best believe me I have a 5 hp 2stroke gone trough about 50years of garden abuse by my father and outruns my four stroke 10hp/9.9hp it’s insane it uses literally no fuel at all
Fuck mercury. They sound like a toolbox dropped inside.
@@dauksz_7127 they are rough rugged and somewhat durable. Yamaha might be the ‘most durable’ but as you can see it’s something like 10mph slower and they go for like $2,500 instead of $1,500
Tbh it prolly was 20 lol
@@GoldWave816 25 mercs used don’t go at all they hard to find ! U can find 25 Johnson’s all day for 3-400$
This was really interesting dude. The Mercury sounded the best
So if the motor sits idle for 5 months, it needs a carb job to get it working properly? I assume when you said it would start on the 2nd pull before, it was right before is sat for 5 months? Is that normal for a motor to have that issue? What changed or may cause the carbs to no longer work properly in 5 months idle? Just trying to understand. Love the channel by the way.
What compression should a Suzuki DF30 30hp four stroke have? Thanks you so much!
What’s the noise levels like between the different engines,
The etec was the quietest and the Mercury and Yamaha were pretty much the same.
My buddy always laughs at my merc, it's an old "tower of power" 6cyl 135 but it hauls a*s.
I love my 115 "tower of power". It scalds the water.
135 tower of power ?
@@Qbhoy79 People call the old Merc inline 6 engines the “tower of power” because they were the fastest and tallest outboard in their day. They made many different versions and power ratings. I had one that the power head had been replaced with a 140hp rated production racing engine that actually made closer to 200hp. Lots of different models, and many that were built for class racing, not the consumer market so they aren’t well known.
@@adamr9215 my point was that I don’t think there was a 135 tower of power. The 135 was a v6
@@Qbhoy79 My point was that there were quite a few hp ratings and that 135 could very well have been one. They made quite a few variations back in the day.
What propeller pitch was on each motor?
Did you measure them on a special stand?
What is the distance from the keel of the boat to the anti-cavitation plate for each motor?
I'm using a Mercury 25 1993 on my 4m Dingi.
Which Speed App do you use?
Ilike them all each for specific reasons, Evinrude for the looks, mercury for the speed, an Yamaha for the reliability, good luck man and sail on🚤🚤🛥🛥⚓
Seems backwards from what I expected. Highest pitched prop was the slowest. Lowest pitch was the fastest. But all ran great. I like the Etec but they’re out of business now. 😢
It's kind of trial and error, too much pitch, you'll bog the motor down, too little and you'll be into the rev limiter at W.O.T. or before. You prop your motor, based on the weight/load of the boat. Rule of thumb is to be close to redline, when the boat is light.
Depends on the weight in the boat, the load its pushing. His jon boat is heavy. Its big, has a floors in it etc
my dad has been running a 2002 mercury 50hp oil inject outboard for 19 years still starts first turn key and looks brand new still love merc 2 strokes
I have that same Yamaha on my 15 foot in boat. I’ve got a bobs trim and tilt. A Bob’s stabilizer plate and a stainless prop. Mine goes 32 miles an hour.
Evinrude is more quiter and less vibration
Mercury co developed his small engine with tohatsu
Yamaha less performance but more realiable
Different pitch props, wonder why the merc was faster.
I work on a lot of motors and run 3 or 4 different motors on my boat each year. In my experience, Mercury’s are pretty much always the fastest option. Johnsons and Evinrudes are the most pleasant to work on. Yamahas seem to never need repair so I see fewer of them.
And it had the lowest pitch so that tells me with a 13 like the Yamaha it would more than outrun either of the two period.
@@joshradford1989 those old Yamahas also weight a lot
Use to have 25 hp Mercury on a small boat, was really reliable and worked great. Love Yamaha too though
I had a jon with a 90 merc that my uncle put togather back in the early 80s it had 50 sheet metal on the cowling. It was fun to idle out with the bass boats when they were leaving the no wake and pass them with a flat bottom jon ....good times
Seemed like the Evinrude made the most torque and smoothest power, plus it looks like a it’s a more modern rig overall. I’d pick that one most likely.
Yeah that Yamaha is very old.
@@JustQuacked looks ancient lol
The E-Tec seemed to accelerate the quickest but the Merc definitely had the fastest speed. Can't go wrong with the Yammy either since it's indestructible lol
I question the speed on the 3rd run. 32, then dropped to 22, then jumped to 28. I dont think it was actually going 32
I got the same Mercury on my starcraft 14 cc love this engine im running a 13 pitch now will get a 11 soon. Thanks for your video
Where in FL you go out? I'm in Miami
Every time I watch one of your videos testing the motors out I hear the Miami Vice theme tune playing in my head.