How to Restor a 100 Year Old Back Saw

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  • čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
  • A 100-year-old dovetail made by Robert Sorby and sons out of Sheffield England. this was in bad shape and missing the original nuts. the handle was broken in several places. we will be restoring this dovetail saw removing the rust, reshaping the handle and putting it back to use. this backsaw restoration turns a rusty hand saw into a precision dovetail saw.
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  • @glynluff2595
    @glynluff2595 Před 5 lety +2

    Often in English saws what you refer to as the makers mark is in fact the name of the craftsman who the saw belonged to. These were stamped on the wooden handles or bodies of saws, chisels or planes. The makers marks were etched or stamped on blades or saw backs. The joy of these tools is the way the feel in your hand and this goes for the older American tools as well. Some of my tools have been in my family for up to a hundred years and still work well.

  • @AlBorland3877
    @AlBorland3877 Před 5 lety +12

    James, keep it! Everytime you use it, make a video. This way we all have fun with it instead of only one person, that wins the giveaway. 8o)

  • @TimRoyalPastortim
    @TimRoyalPastortim Před 5 lety +3

    This is the stuff you do that I LOVE! I have an 18th century J&I Taylor dovetail saw I've been procrastinating the restore on. Keep it... It'll give us all joy to see you cut your dovetails with it!

  • @tayyabsafdar7069
    @tayyabsafdar7069 Před rokem +1

    Lucy and honest were the people who made these tools that are still being cherished and restored, I wonder what will be the fate of present day cheap tools.

    • @WoodByWrightHowTo
      @WoodByWrightHowTo  Před rokem

      There are some makers out there who are making tools that will be cherished for decades and centuries to come. The ones that are cheap will disappear just like in the past the ones that are cheap we don't remember.

  • @NickLuker
    @NickLuker Před 5 lety +8

    As all of my saws, except 1, are inherited, I have restored many saws that were totally covered in rust and brown as the dirt. I love seeing how others tackle the project. I tend to soak the plates and steel nuts in Evapo-Rust - I believe James did a video where he used a 1:1 of vinegar to water - to clear out the pits. If anyone is interested in really cleaning up the brass, tomato juice or ketchup works wonderfully. If there is rusting under the spine, I use 400 grit sandpaper folded over to clean it. Alternatively, string soaked in Evapo-Rust or vinegar water will work if you are concerned about removing material and having a loose fit.
    The files James uses are Bahco files, if anyone was wondering.

  • @motsiwel
    @motsiwel Před rokem +1

    Gorgeous!

  • @troon5488
    @troon5488 Před rokem +1

    Very entertaining, with useful information as well.

  • @johnkelley9877
    @johnkelley9877 Před 5 lety +1

    What a beautiful restoration. You have helped a little bit of tool history have a second life.

  • @paeppchen3970
    @paeppchen3970 Před 5 lety +3

    I’m just starting in hand tool woodwork and I like the saw

  • @robertberger8642
    @robertberger8642 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Very nice!

  • @JaredaSohn
    @JaredaSohn Před 5 lety +2

    As most of us vewiers have been saying you should keep it and that way we can all appreciate the work you put into this amazing channel!

  • @donaldrice1867
    @donaldrice1867 Před 5 lety +1

    I think that if you like it more than your other dovetail saws or if it fits a need of yours, keep it. If it would just be a wall hanger that is pretty to look at, give it away. As beautiful as it is, with the work you put into it, it deserves to be used.

  • @PeriodWoodworker
    @PeriodWoodworker Před 2 lety +1

    Very nice job. I love restoring old brass back saws. Thanks for sharing, Steve

  • @BigPete7407
    @BigPete7407 Před 5 lety +1

    Wonderful project, great job on the video and groan on the 're saw' joke . Way to go sir, I loved it . Wishing you and your family all the best things this life has to give, Pete

  • @starforged
    @starforged Před 3 lety +1

    Great video. So if I owned the saw it would be in my family forever. But it would go on the wall for only the worthy to use. I value my old tools very much. So if I was you I would keep it. But being me I hope you give it away to a good home. Thank you very much for all you do and share...

  • @LegoMan-cz4mn
    @LegoMan-cz4mn Před 5 lety +1

    Really glad you kept the handle, I should do that more too

  • @rkeller1ify
    @rkeller1ify Před 5 lety +1

    Beautiful old saw with an excellent restoration. I much admire how you added the new/old wood louses.

  • @BradsWorkbench
    @BradsWorkbench Před 5 lety +1

    I LOVE cleaning up old brass

  • @roybailey9554
    @roybailey9554 Před 2 lety +1

    I have one the same make Sorby made in Sheffield smaller though , that saw of yours is from around the 18 hundreds possibly 1850s which makes it over 150 years old at least , best wishes from at old vintage carpenter from England 🇬🇧.

  • @AndreiIR000
    @AndreiIR000 Před 5 lety +2

    So satisfying!!! At the end I feel so good as if I did the work!

  • @imortaldeadead
    @imortaldeadead Před 5 lety +2

    Beautiful finish to an old saw, love how you added to it history ♥️
    As always thank you for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @c.lafont931
    @c.lafont931 Před 2 lety +1

    Just got a Disston #6 backsaw, 10tpi. Looking forward to following along with this video.

  • @BinManSays87
    @BinManSays87 Před 2 lety +1

    I use western saw's because I know how to use them and I live just outside Sheffield England so you could say I'm blessed with cheap tools to restore but honestly I got my back saw's new from footprint as they're one of the very few old toolmakers still here making quality tools, I got these as I didn't have a setting tool or good file back then now I'm just hunting for a cross cut panel and a gnarly old big toothed saw mainly just to look at because far to many old tools around here end up getting smelted down or rusting away

  • @andrewjkiller
    @andrewjkiller Před 5 lety +6

    This is an excellent example of why you should never throw out a strap peice of wood. No matter the size or how long until you might find a use for... or what the wife says.

  • @rjamsbury1
    @rjamsbury1 Před 5 lety +1

    This was so timely! I have several old saws I have cleaned up, some from Sheffield (I live quite near there) although few as nice as that Sorby. I love getting old tools back into action.
    I was just using a couple today and getting frustrated by their tendency to drift to one side. Now I know what I need to do to correct them - thank you! 👍

  • @davidcoxon1914
    @davidcoxon1914 Před 5 lety +1

    I have just added servicing my grandfather’s brass-back tenon saw, which must be nearly 100 years old, to my project list - along with some of his other, often hand-made, tools.

  • @drawlele
    @drawlele Před 5 lety +4

    Keep it, who cares if someone else wants it. Great video I for one am looking forward to seeing it in future videos

    • @badass9223
      @badass9223 Před 5 lety

      I have watched this video twice now and felt you did a great job. Have inherited 3 tenon saws and have restored in much the same manner. Percerverance is the key. Any suggestions for a good set of sharpening files?
      BTW in the next world I'm coming back as a rusty vise . In USA most have been resurrected 😊

  • @ryanallthewiser
    @ryanallthewiser Před 5 lety +1

    Great reworking of this saw. Looks great.

  • @codybryant8684
    @codybryant8684 Před 5 lety +1

    Yes please please please do a giveaway. I think you should do it with the best dovetail. And have folks mail them in and judge them

  • @Mcphilsmith
    @Mcphilsmith Před 5 lety

    Really nice fix. I like the little patch. When scraping old finish, I use a razor blade like a scraper. Knocks all the gunk off quickly and is very controllable.

  • @brianross6818
    @brianross6818 Před 5 lety +2

    I like this video, I would like to see a couple more videos like this. Nice job.

  • @tredici72
    @tredici72 Před 5 lety +1

    Ripper resto mate, she turned out beaut!👍

  • @ccasling4
    @ccasling4 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I’m pretty sure I have the same saw!

  • @charlesluck3536
    @charlesluck3536 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video James!

  • @triune_blades
    @triune_blades Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome in-depth video! What a beauty!

  • @natashasurvivallady8021
    @natashasurvivallady8021 Před 5 lety +1

    While I would love a chance to use such a beautiful saw, only give it away if that makes you happy. That's what woodworking is about, isn't it? :)

  • @stevebettany8778
    @stevebettany8778 Před 5 lety +1

    Got one almost identical but the blade is split under the brass back for over an inch. Such a shame it’s a beautiful saw.

  • @kent5400
    @kent5400 Před 2 lety +1

    I've just rewatched this video, and I still enjoy it and appreciate the craftsmanship of the restoration. But this time through I also noticed that the split-nut screws were placed in from the back of the saw. Does that make this a left-handed saw? 😁

  • @ryanallthewiser
    @ryanallthewiser Před 5 lety +2

    The New Number 1!! 😳. Great timing for this video, I’m in the process of restoring a few saws. Love your detail breakdowns.

  • @jaguarsrevenge
    @jaguarsrevenge Před 5 lety +1

    Keep it.

  • @danielgeng1184
    @danielgeng1184 Před 5 lety +1

    Just keep it , you deserve it !

  • @carbonitegamorrean8368
    @carbonitegamorrean8368 Před 5 lety +1

    Sooooo nice, I'd love to have a dt that awesome

  • @oneshotme
    @oneshotme Před 5 lety +1

    Very nice!!
    Enjoyed your video and gave it a Thumbs Up

  • @rickhall4318
    @rickhall4318 Před 5 lety +1

    Oooh! Oooh! Give it to me!!!

  • @hassanal-mosawi6049
    @hassanal-mosawi6049 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for sharing that

  • @ProcyonZED
    @ProcyonZED Před 5 lety +2

    Keep it. I am working on restoring a pair of Disston 120s a rip and cross cut. Any suggestions?

  • @jimspeed1388
    @jimspeed1388 Před 5 lety +3

    I'm in the UK and picked up a similar Sheffield saw for about a £1. I need to restore but the blade has a bend in it.can it be saved?

    • @clamage
      @clamage Před 5 lety +1

      I have the same / a similar question. The plate on mine has a very slight kink. Can it be hammered out?

    • @WoodByWrightHowTo
      @WoodByWrightHowTo  Před 5 lety

      most of the time no. if there is a kink it is beyond repair.

  • @jamesletner7555
    @jamesletner7555 Před 3 lety +1

    If one wanted to polish it to make it new could you use the rubbing compound on it?

  • @DuncanEdwards.
    @DuncanEdwards. Před 5 lety +1

    Send it back to me in the UK :-)

  • @nurgle11
    @nurgle11 Před 5 lety

    The Lee Valley saw file set set is Bahco I think, pretty good files.

  • @phildodd9942
    @phildodd9942 Před 5 lety +1

    Great to see how you styled the repairs to the handle - so many old saws end up with damaged handles - probably knocked off the bench onto the floor ? A question. In a traditional shop where the furniture is all hand-made, and the saw is used every day, how long before it is re-sharpened ? Are they sharpened every week ? Would that mean having a couple ( at least ) of identical saws so that there is always one ready-sharpened waiting to be used ? Maybe in a big shop the apprentice used to spend a lot of time doing this ? It must annoy you if you try to use a saw that is not as sharp as it can be ?

    • @WoodByWrightHowTo
      @WoodByWrightHowTo  Před 5 lety

      that depends on you. I generally sharpen most of my saws once every 6 months or so. but some professional shop use to do ti once a month or once a week for some over used saws.

  • @BillLowenburg
    @BillLowenburg Před 3 lety +1

    Really nice demonstration and saw! I'm a beginner and just learning about restoration - and saws - so this is helpful. Do you use WD40 on the blade after cleaning it or some other kind of oil to provide protection?

    • @WoodByWrightHowTo
      @WoodByWrightHowTo  Před 3 lety

      I just use paste wax. It adds lubrication to the saw for easier use as well as protects the plate.

  • @user-sb5dg2ei9w
    @user-sb5dg2ei9w Před 5 měsíci

    hello James, great video. interested in your technique for putting the 'back' and the blade back together. would this not have a risk of stretching the plate?
    kind regards Stephen from New Zealand

  • @lloydhoover8862
    @lloydhoover8862 Před 2 lety +1

    Hello James, great work on those handles! A bit off topic but Ive seen you use a Veritas tenon saw for various cuts... is it filed rip or crosscut? i recently acquired one filed rip that I want to convert to crosscut...any tips?

    • @WoodByWrightHowTo
      @WoodByWrightHowTo  Před 2 lety +1

      Crosscut. That's one thing that really bugs me about Veritas. A. Carcass saw is crosscut. If it's rip cut then it is either a very large dovetail saw or a very small tendon saw.

  • @keithgarcia5271
    @keithgarcia5271 Před 2 lety

    What is that handle/bit holder you're using for the split saw nut driver? It looks like it has very short push/spiral drive and possible ratchet capability?

  • @fleepmakes
    @fleepmakes Před 2 lety +1

    Out of curiosity: why epoxy instead of wood glue?

    • @WoodByWrightHowTo
      @WoodByWrightHowTo  Před 2 lety

      It is easier to work with and does not require clamping pressure. PVA requires a serious amount of pressure to work properly.

  • @rayneaustephane2757
    @rayneaustephane2757 Před rokem

    Hello, thank you for your videos! I wanted to know, you use a tool to sharpen and redo the teeth of your saw, can you tell me or explain to me what it is like a utensil, please? thank you in advance.

    • @WoodByWrightHowTo
      @WoodByWrightHowTo  Před rokem

      For sharpening the saws we use a triangular file. Here's a video with more detail on it. czcams.com/video/e7YsjKhqk-w/video.html

  • @andrewbrimmer1797
    @andrewbrimmer1797 Před rokem +1

    Was that curly white oak a Howard? Yuk yuk yuk was the accent cockney?

  • @faramund9865
    @faramund9865 Před 2 lety

    The title says ‘Restor’ instead of ‘Restore’!
    Thanks a lot for this though, will help with the antique tools I bought and the ones to come.
    What kind of oil do you use for the metal, the plate? Also heard wax works well.
    And the files used, they are the same files one uses for metalwork? Or are these some kind of rasp?
    Also you mentioned the ‘old tallow’, did they use to grease these things up with cow fat?
    Very impressed with the result!

    • @WoodByWrightHowTo
      @WoodByWrightHowTo  Před 2 lety +1

      I use basically any oil or wax. I have around grid. Usually it's a linseed oil and/or a beeswax. For the files. They're the same ones you use on metal. For a file. There isn't a difference between wood files and metal files. The rasps are designed for wood though.

    • @faramund9865
      @faramund9865 Před 2 lety

      @@WoodByWrightHowTo Interesting, thanks a lot!

  • @robertberger8642
    @robertberger8642 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Ok, I want it. Oh well.

  • @reforzar
    @reforzar Před 5 lety +3

    I had no idea! I graduated hogwarts class of 03. When did you finish?

  • @ryanstieglitz8077
    @ryanstieglitz8077 Před rokem +1

    Comment down below!

  • @williamfew
    @williamfew Před 2 lety +1

    I have been looking for a two pronged screwdriver/head. Does it have a technical name and where can I buy one?

    • @WoodByWrightHowTo
      @WoodByWrightHowTo  Před 2 lety

      it is a split screw driver. Blackburn tool works sells them. www.blackburntools.com/new-tools/new-saws-and-related/saw-nut-spanner/index.html
      but most people just modify an existing screwdriver.

    • @williamfew
      @williamfew Před 2 lety

      @@WoodByWrightHowTo Many thanks! Very useful indeed - no suppliers for this sort of gear in the UK. International shipping quite reasonable.

  • @tangle70
    @tangle70 Před 4 lety +1

    Wouldn't the handle been made of beech in that time period?

    • @WoodByWrightHowTo
      @WoodByWrightHowTo  Před 4 lety +1

      beach was far more common and how they made 90%+ but not all of them. you could order it most any wood you wanted.

  • @williamn01
    @williamn01 Před 4 lety +1

    James what size is this saw?
    Regards
    William

  • @moonwolf7135
    @moonwolf7135 Před 5 lety +1

    Giveaway, enjoyed the video

  • @brooklynpaul4003
    @brooklynpaul4003 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Comment down below.

  • @HomesteadingNorthernMichigan

    Did you give her away... I just bought a robt sorby the other day and she just left Texas today .. it's a tenon saw... I'm making my wife a live edge desk and I bought the two cherries dovetail saw and laughed... My slabs are 2.5 inch.. it is about 3/4" away on depth lol 😆😆😆 do you have a FB brother I'd love to share with you

    • @WoodByWrightHowTo
      @WoodByWrightHowTo  Před 3 lety

      Oh I would love to see it. look up Wood by wright hive mind on face book.

  • @TheKiddSocks
    @TheKiddSocks Před 5 lety +1

    If you haven't seen the Rescue & Restore channel, you should check it out, I think you'd like it, completely amazing. X

  • @RossTomazin
    @RossTomazin Před 5 lety +1

    How about a Patreon supporter/CZcams member giveaway?!

  • @JohnMadeit
    @JohnMadeit Před 5 lety +1

    I think it would of been nice to use a different bit of wood that didn't match so it can tell the story of it life. Dont do a give away. Just send it to me 😋😂

  • @codybryant8684
    @codybryant8684 Před 5 lety

    As far as vintage steel goes nothing beats Sheffield Steel chisels solve anything like that nothing beats Sheffield

  • @soberlivingwithbrianfrankl8254

    Giveaway lol

  • @thewalnutwoodworker6136

    30 dollars is cheap? That's expensive! I would pick that up for 5-10 just for the plate and back.

    • @WoodByWrightHowTo
      @WoodByWrightHowTo  Před 2 lety

      You'll see a lot of steel back for that price range. But you won't find a Sheffield with a brass back.

  • @-perclf783
    @-perclf783 Před 5 lety

    great video, but the music is too loud.