Bobby Heenan on "The Crippler" Ray Stevens in AWA
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- Bobby Heenan discusses various wrestling promoters he worked for including The Sheik in Detroit, Jim Barnett in Indianapolis & Fritz Von Erich in Dallas.
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RIP to the late-great Bobby "The Brain" Heenan.
Did you know that Bobby started out with The Sheik (Ed Fahat, uncle of Sabu) as his mentor? Heenan would often drive around The Sheik or help wash his car before officially breaking into the world of pro wrestling.
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RIP to the best manager of all-time Bobby "The Brain" Heenan
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He legit could have been a stand-up comedian. Imagine if Heenan was still alive and had a podcast today.
It would be much bigger than Jim's.
He’d get a VP bid from Trump I bet😂🎉
Bob Uecker thought he was the funniest guy on the planet
Gorilla was the straight man who loaded the joke gun. The Brain pulled the punch line trigger.
Super smart man, very down to earth, and always funny. Bobby will always be missed
One of the quickest wittest guys in the business!!👍
Bobby Heenan telling it like it was and still is.
Not really. Pro wrasslin makes as much money as it ever has. It's just different.
What a legend. Love him.
Very true - Bobby was such an important part of making the WWF was it was.
Bobby Heenan words ring true today.
No they don't. He said the business was over in 2002. Last I checked WWE is still around.
Wow. Ray Stevens. I remember him so well watching Saturday wrestling. The guy would get me so worked up! LOL And then working tag team with Pat Patterson. Just hated them! LOL Boy were they good. Bobbys words ring true. I watched for some 50 years enjoying the show. Not any more. I never knew why until just now. Sad. Maybe I moved on too. But it just not the same to me. I remember my dad intoducing me to Pepper Gomez. He worked out at the gym my dad did. Then he took me to see the wrestling event. Never forgot that. Fan for forever.
The G.O.A.T.. I hated him, but learn to love him.
The brain....Legend ❤
Ray Stevens is one of the legends who never got any credit for being ahead of his time on turnbuckle flips before Flair and Shawn Michaels.
He did alot more than that. He's one of the greatest in ring workers in wrestling history, largely set the blueprint for what heel psychology would be moving forward, and him and Pat Patterson and Gene and Ole Anderson practically invented tag team wrestling as it existed in it's highest form in the last great period of professional wrestling before it essentially ceased to exist. He's very much one of those can't tell the story of Professional Wrestling without spending a serious chunk of time diving into his part in it kind of guys.
@@douglaspatrick868 i agree but unfortunately, the younger generation aren't familiar with Ray Stevens' and his work.
You would rarely find a wrestling fan who started watching wrestling in the late 90s to now who's familiar with Ray Stevens.
@@kenterminateddq5311 Yeah, I'm not much older than that (few years shy of forty still) but I get what you are saying. The percentage of people that get really interested in the history of things and go back and look into it in any meaningful way is always significantly smaller, always has been. It's sad, you miss out on a lot that way but I get it at the same time, there are only so many hours in the day and life's not easy!
Yeah he was a buzzsaw
"The Brain" telling it like it is!
Loved this guy
Man Bobby Heenan and Gorilla Monsoon were a big part of my childhood, Ive been listening to these a lot lately.
Heenan is perpetually funny... & his story about The Crippler is on point! Stevens should've been The AWA Champ @ least once.
He's right. It's sucked ever since the cat got out of the bag.
Rest easy, Mr. Heenan.
Godspeed Bobby.
I definitely miss the days when wrestling felt real. NWA and all the territories made wrestling feel real. Vince McMahon turned it into an entertainment act.
It's a circus now.
It only feels real the young and simple minded.
RIP Brain Heenan 🙏
#RIPBobbyHeenan
#RIPRayStevens
I agree with Bobby 100% here. Make sure what ever it is you do you have Fun.. Or it means nothing!
RIP Bobby!
I miss ya, Brain.
In the beginning of his book, he immediately said the magic show was over.
The greatest enough said
When the likes of Pat Patterson & Bobby Heenan revere you as an all-time great worker, then believe me you were GREAT.
*Such a shame Bobby passed away from mouth/tounge - cancer- Such a quick witted , very hard worker from a kid who had so much logic and one of the funniest announcer of all time...R.I.P Bobby.*
I remember when Ray The Crippler Stevens pile-drived Jimmy Snuka on the concrete floor outside the ring and busted Snuka's head, there was blood everywhere!?! I though Snuka got killed...
Good memory,I forgot about that.
I remember watching AWA back in the 70s when Ray broke Bobby Heenan’s trophy on TV!
My brother had a blue robe and I would teased him by calling him ray the crippler Steven 😮good memories of watching wrestling with my brother 😮
'a worker is someone who puts asses in the seats.'
Man if podcasts were around for him and Monsoon to do.
Besides being a great in the ring, Stevens was one of the better announcer/analysts I've ever heard. He only did it on occasion, wasn't interested in doing it as a regular gig.
I lived in San Francisco as a child and Ray Stevens was the first wrestling star I idolized along with Chief Peter Maivia, the Rock's grandfather.
Gold
Vince McMahon killed wrestling by monopolizing it. Bad.
That and revealing it's not real.
It seems he did to wrestling what NASCAR seems to be doing to itself.
Damn right he did!
Ray Stevens was one of those guys you could just look at, like Dick Murdoch and Gene Anderson, and suspect that he probably wouldn't live long. Just a naturally big tough guy who didn't work out and probably had high cholesterol.
I started watching wrestling in the late 70s/early 80s. My first live wrestling match was the AWA. I'd also watch Central States Wrestling from Missouri in the early 80s. Once we got Cable tv i was introduced to Georgia Championship Wrestling and the WWF. Georgia Championship Wrestling on WTBS turned into the flagship NWA program and eventually by the 1990s it was WCW. The territories may have died out in the 80s and the AWA and World Class were gone by the 90s but WWF and WCW were still around as was ECW and Smokey Mountain Wrestling. The 90s ended up being both good and bad for pro wrestling as I knew it. The Attitude Era and The Monday Night Wars were great. By the end of the 90s i was starting to lose interest and I can honestly say by 2007 I pretty much quit watching it. I try to get into it on occassion and stay up to date but the product i knew from the 80s & 90s is gone. Bobby was right, for me the magic is gone.
when was this interview?
Bobby was right. Wrestling has been dead since 2001
The moment it died was when Stephanie was in creative and when Eddie when the championship
I always say around 2003 when they did the roster split
It's ice capades now. All the marks are in the ring and out of the crowd.
I stopped watching in spring 2001, I wasn't a big WCW guy but coincidentally it was at the same time it went outta business
Agreed! It started dying in the mid-late 90s shut was rapidly getting worse despite the NWO success & why it immediately died afterwards!
Anybody else notice that most professional wrestlers don’t live to be very old?
It's funny how Bobby will badmouth Jim Helwig but will say "workers put asses in seats, le Hogan" and Jim did and also he said the same thing "In it for money". Bobby was premature, the business died for two reasons, Stephanie McMahon joined creative and eddie guerrero was wwf champ
If you think this interview is good, just read Bobby's two books.
bobby told the truth..vince mcmahon ruin wrestyling.. can it come ..YES... GO BACK TO SLEEPER HOLDS REVERSE ROLLING CRADELS ABDOMILE STRETCHES... PILE DRIVERS BACK BREAKERS.. make the holds mean somethings...
Ray steven
The only thing Bobby got wrong was that even with all the respect he had for Vince....he still underestimated him and the business. He thought it was over but in fact it got bigger after this interview.
Always entertaining n funny but his outlook on the biz felt like a guy that wanted to live in the past . Sports,movies,music all march forward, I’m not saying they are better or worse than they were but they definitely change
Yep. All yep. None of it is worth your time anymore. Now the fans are all marks.....
Any one who knows about scholastic wrestling, knows this is a pseudo sport. Since it's over, why the hell not promoter the real sport instead of it being a business?
Because nobody wants to watch it 🤷
@@JohnnySquareI heard that 25 years ago and yet we still we ice skating, swimming golf, fishing and volley ball on television but no one wants to wants real wrestling? People like fantasy wrestling that they will support it by the millions? Why do even have school and Olympic wrestling for? Check out Flowrestling. Even woman's freestyle is better than those side show phonies
@hartiwanger9176 ice skating volleyball and swimming are only on during the olympics. People aren't lining up to see those either.
The olympics actually tried getting rid of wrestling, do to the lack of interest. I disagree but it is what it is.
@@JohnnySquareIce skating isn't just on during the Olympics. There are 4 ESPN's with no wrestling.
Love Bobby but he was definitely wrong about the future of the business
It's true WWF aka WWE ruined wrestling in my opinion. You got grown ups over 40 living at home with Mom and Dad and watching wrestling like a 3 year old. But won't go look for a job
"The wrestling business is over. "
*20 years later wrestling businsess is making record profits*
Inflation, people now pay more for less, TV revenue, you don't have to speak of just the money, sure in some cases money is good. Older fans have seen the good stuff, the so-called baby boomers now are monkey see monkey do. Whatever their social class likes they like. They are ignorant to the real drama wrestling use to bring.
Only because they sell merchandise online worldwide...and they turned it into an American Idol type contest show for a completely different audience. Nobody actually buys tickets anymore.
WWE attendence is at an all time high
And as Heenan said, the point of the industry is to make money. If your goal is anything else you're a mark.
Not "the wrestling business".
The one "live entertainment licensing company" is making money.
It isn't wrestling anymore, it's the entertainment novella that makes money from tshirts and drama. Wouldn't say dead, it evolved to something different
I hate the knee slappers.
Bobby was rational. And great for wrestling.
It’s unfortunate that he and warrior didn’t get along.
Because warrior was great for the buisness also.
But some things just simply aren’t meant to be in this life.
Bobby and warrior got off on the wrong foot for some reason in this life.
And it just escalated from
There.
In summary though?
I like bobby.
But warrior was too high strung.
I respect Jim’s accomplishments in wrestling.
Sure.
But do I like the man?
I’m sorry to say this but “ no.
I don’t.
Warrior was too self centred and wild.
In his prime he might have been the toughest man to ever enter a ring.
In my personal opinion.
But that doesn’t mean I like him.
Warrior was just too self centred to irrefutably like .
In my opinion.
Unlikebobby.
And ray stevens.
Who both are not self centred .
And likeable .
Pure and simple…
Heenan sounded very bitter. Must of had a bad breakup with Vince McMahon.
I do find it kinda ironic that Heenan bashes then-current wrestlers for looking like they've never been in a fight, while praising Hogan, one of the corniest wrestlers of all time. Is he really pretending that 80's WWF looked realistic? Please. And history has proven him wrong, as the wrestling business is still going strong over 20 years later.
2024 WWE is so unwatchable, aew is some how even worse
@3:00 I…couldn’t…agree more with Bobby. The magic is over. For me, it was over in the 90’s and Just my feeling, I blame Vince McMahon, he killed it for me.