Do Endings Even Matter??
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That's why Code Geass is still my favourite anime. It left a memorable impact in my heart with how it stick the landing at the end
No matter the dumb filler episode or whatever was in there in between. The BIG moments made it count as a whole, especially the ending
@@marcodragneel8035 every series has it's dumb moments, nothing is perfect. What matters is how well they peak their best moments and Code Geass does it exceptionally well
@@andrewkeshan8649 true that
naah, while I think ending was great the show had a little to much of plot holes, plot armour and force plotting which I really don't like.
When I first watched it I used to count it with the likes of death note but when I rewatched itI realised it how stupid some of the scenes really are.
Def, I had the best time watching it for the first time, went in absolutely blind, didnt read the synopsis to see wat kind of show it is, jus went in blind and skipped all the intros and it's my favorite anime of all time, and when madder sky started playing, my heart was racing with my jaw open, literally couldn't believe wat happened.
How much an ending effects a story is directly to proportional how far away from 'mediorce' it is in either direction. A really good ending can save a series. A really bad one can ruin it.
Unpopular opinion I don’t think a bad ending can ruin a good series to me it just kinda seems unfair to judge a series just based on the last chapter or the “ending” the only thing that should really matter is the journey getting there like one piece for example I highly doubt if one piece has a bad ending that’s gonna ruin the entire series for me because it just doesn’t seem fair to disregard all of those 20+ years of masterful writing and worldbuilding just because the author messed up on one chapter
@@soultheconfusing9563 Length is relevant though. One Piece is an oddity due to how insanely long it is so it’s not the best example to be compared to a lot of other series. Something like Erased quickly lost favor in the community’s eyes since the ending was so bad and the story isn’t super lengthy. So a bad ending can especially ruin a series if isn’t a long-runner.
@@doctordoom85 fair enough i just don’t think endings should hold that much power u know? Unless it’s an ending that basically rewrites the whole story and makes it seem meaningless a mediocre ending can be good to imo
@@soultheconfusing9563 Well, Erased having the mystery be a massive element is relevant too. If you’re teasing a big reveal and then come out with something meh, you’re less likely to look back at that prior reveal teasing with as much fondness. Also, an ending can invalidate some or a lot of a story depending on the nature. This is why “it was all just a dream” endings quickly became infamous back in the day, because it invalidated a bunch or all of the events prior to not being real. Depressing endings that don’t fit thematically with the rest of the show count too. I forget it’s name, but there was an infamous anime about a girl learning to overcome her anxiety so she can move to the city or something, but in the last episode she has a mental breakdown and just accepts she can’t get better and doesn’t pursue her dream and the show acts like it’s a happy ending. Needless to say, fans were PISSED, for not only making her character arc meaningless but also having an uncomfortable message of, “hey people with mental issues, just give up!” YIKES.
It depends on the type of story. For example, despite Naruto and Bleach's ending far from being perfect, they don't ruin the entire series because there is no mystery reveal, and these endings were in line with the themes despite being rushed/having some plot conveniences or Deus ex machinas.
But something like AoT or Erased, where ending is that big reveal or tie up of the whole plot, atleast a good ending is needed. It basically comes down to if you can re read and enjoy the series and not be bothered by the ending if it is subpar.
Endings are like a ribbon to a gift box. It's the final part of what ties it all together and comes apart if done incorrectly.
The best analogy I've heard in a while
If you’ve watched Game of Thrones season 8 you know endings absolutely do matter, they ruined the whole show in the span of like 3 episodes, nailing an ending is so important
Game of Thrones shows that half of the show being mid to bad can ruin a show.
Not the best example because Seasons 5 and 6 were a drop in quality though. So the terrible ending was already set up.
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There's a game of thrones season 8?
@@tp9516 I thought they stopped the series at season 4 because they had to wait for the novels to finish.
The ending is everything to me. If read a 3000 chapter novel you bet i'm gonna feel pissed if the ending sucked
Feels like every novel that goes that far tbh, so many chinese and korean novels get kinda lost in the ending because how much longer they are compared to manga and anime.
Devil Part Timer comes to mind on Great Series That Drops The Ball on its Ending.
Bruh, with those novels the journey should be what you read for coz the ending will always be rushed/unsatisfying. I don't think I've ever read a good novel ending besides like 10, and I read over hundreds.
Thats why for most of the LN I love, I always stop before the ending if I didnt like how the story was going. Better to not know and preserve the fond memory I had of the series. One of the few long stories that actually stuck the landing, imo, was mushoku tensei, or very short stories that the author had a clear vision n executed just that excellently
@@totallynotmodsan7627 yea, that's the worst part about the whole manga medium. Most authors focus purely on narrative hooks / original concepts. Then you add release schedule on top of it and it is inevitable that aspects of work will change overtime thus resulting into a different ending (if it was ever planned to begin with).
Yes Endings do matter that's why
Code Geass is so high in everyone anime list because of its great Ending
The problem is that the ending is not in the top 5 anime endings, and season 2 is not strong enough before that to be one of the greats.
Assassination Classroom is up there IMO too.
@@thomasffrench3639go check the rankings. Code Geass ending is considered number 1
@@shyguy5473 I need to read that one
@@shyguy5473na bro. I really enjoyed it but it's nowhere near code geass or pretty much any great anime.
It does. Imagine at the end of AOT Eren wakes up and is like "Oh, it was just a dream".
Just like Captain Tsubasa woke up and had no legs from the accident as a kid
Code geass has my favourite ending
"Do Endings Even Matter??" while using Code Geass in the tn... like bruh XD
This is why I love Studio Triggers Endings, no matter how crazy it is, it almost always leaves me satisfied and ends at a climax - (Gurren Lagann, Kill la Kill, Promare, Cyberpunk Edgerunners).
Every other anime has a good concept and amazing start, but lose steam midway or have a terrible ending.
Short answer: Yes, yes they do. A LOT, it is one of the most important key factors in a story.
The ending basically determines whether or not you watch it again
nah aot's ending is ass but i've rewatched all of it 4 times and i'm down for more
But they just said Yuyu hakushos ending didnt matter
@@revolvingworld2676it didn't had a complex writing as attack on titan even a kid could say that
The 4 duo are basic
One is a deliquent with a simp attitude for romance
The other is an idiot
An other one is a femboy
And other one is the edgy boy
@@ryzkumar4837i cannot do that because im still gonna remember the bs ending SnK reputation will always be ruined because of the ending thats why SnK gonna be unwatchable
@adityannair3278 whats a 4 duo? YYH isn't as complex as AOT but I'd rather watch that. AOT tries to be too deep and it comes off sounding dumb, especially at the end.
Best ending. Lort of the Rings. more then 30 min of epiloge. (aragorn: "you bow to no man" [4 Hobbits standing])
Yes they do.
Depends, sometimes bad endings have almost no effect on the quality.
@@thomasffrench3639 Exactly depends. If Black clover had a bad ending nobody would care except for the fans of black clover. Yet if Jujutsu Kaisen had a bad ending everyone would bash it like Attack on Titan. It all depends on the quality and what the story is portraying.
@@ediiiiiinah, if JJK ended in a mediocre way, I wouldn’t mind despite the series being high quality. It’s not the type of story that needs a great ending. I would argue that Black clover needs it more just because it is made with an ending goal in mind, even if JJK is a little better.
@@thomasffrench3639 I write light novels... But okay.
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Connor, Texchnolyze, holy Hell, that ending just left me stunned in disbelief at how raw and depressing it was.
For those of you who know, you know!!!
@matthewmiller9485 Man, the ending of Texchnolyze really broke me :/
I also mentioned Texhnolyze in the comments, thanks for giving it a shoutout.
Yes, because the endings can and do leave you feeling whether or not your time was well spent.
Joey, Yu Yu Hakusho’s anime ending is way more fleshed out than the manga ending. But yeah it is an okay ending, and it definitely didn’t ruin the show. Also Bleach is absolutely great, but it’s ending isn’t very good, which shows that it doesn’t always ruin a series. I would say that it was bad in a way that doesn’t ruin the series, we’re something like Game of Thrones which might be technically a little bit better destroys the characters.
I mean, Bleach wasn't great. And people were checked out by the time that horrible ending came so it didn't outrage them as much as something like GoT.
@@za-ir5ni people checked out by the end of season 5 of GOT, what are you talking about?
@@thomasffrench3639 No, the vast majority of GoT wrongly thought seasons 5-7 were still good. And then season 8 hit them like a truck. Bleach was more like a slow death.
@@za-ir5ni I don't know, I know that most people loved the beginning of Thousand Year Blood War. But yeah the rankings show that the popularity was waning, and Game of Thrones still had much of it's core fanbase. I just find that Bleach was way stronger more consistently than seasons 1-7 of Game of Thrones, even if seasons 1-4 are more consistently strong than Bleach was.
@@thomasffrench3639people doesn't have any expectations from yu yu hakusho
It is not that complex if u exclude villian
Sure it is a great story but
Audience doesn't have expectations
Unlike aot with each season the expectations of the ending to nail got higher and higher within 2 chapter the amount of hate it recieved is on another level
19:32 I immediately went back to the computer that I was listening to a ways away when Garnt brought up Busou Renkin. What a great memory.
An ending can make or break somrthing for me. They matter a lot. I've been sour on AOT since it ended in the manga but I can't deny how for the majority otherwise how incredible it was
honestly rewatching aot with that shit ending in your mind is just difficult.
The endings do matter. So many stories i revisited always have at least decent endings. I realized how truly important an ending for the reputation of the stories during GoT season 8. Then Promises Neverland season 2, Wonder Egg Priority, they show how one drop of potent poison can poison a well and I no longer want to remember my “journey” no matter how incredible they are at the beginning. An iconic endings can even save some “trash” animes like School Days and I remember that show more than super hyped Promised Neverland or GoT season 8.
The endings they are forgetting are Odd Taxi and Mob Psycho 100. Both absolutely perfect endings. Odd Taxi is the culmination of a Rube Goldberg like plot that perfectly stuck the landing as every single plotline fell into place in a satisfying way. Mob Psycho 100 is so emotionally satisfying for every single character, and the final shot of the show is still my phone background. These along with shows they mentioned like Code Geass, FMAB, Cowboy Bebop, set the bar for anime endings, and AoT fell way below all of them. It's not Wonder Egg Priority bad, but it's like, a 6/10 for me.
I was so disappointed in Yu Yu Hakusho's final arc. Togashi was setting up for a 3 way war in the Demon World. There could have been so many interesting matchups and then have it end up with Yusuke, Kurama and Hiei teaming up toogether to end the war
Endings definitely matter AOT's ending wasn't bad but I can't say it was really good either. I would've preferred a more personal ending seeing Eren's comrades living their full lives they were given due to Eren's sacrifice.
That's basically what they showed. Are you saying you want an extender epilogue?
There is a wide path where your ending can just be fine. It's hard for an ending to either make or break a show but, when they do it incredibly well, you remember something like Code Geass for the rest of your life, or they do a GoT and they ruin a show, you remember that they did it, and never revisit it again. Most endings are unobtrusive to forgettable and mildly satisfying to boring and have little effect on the show as a whole.
Have you watched How I Met Your Mother, LOST and Game of Thrones?
The ending is incredibly important because it's what the whole story has been building to - and the last thing you want is for the viewer to walk away from a show and thinking *"That was great until they ruined it."*
Endings have to feel earned and be satisfying. They should tie up story threads and leave the viewer with a sense of closure.
This person gets it
Do Endings Matter? It depends on the type of story we are watching/reading.
A series like One Piece could be given a crap ending but people will still remember the Long Grand Journey meanwhile a Novel like Devil is a Part Timer had a great story that felt ruined by the Final Volume/Ending by so many Fans due to its conclusion feeling so out of left field in a negative way by many.
A story is like a trapeze act. At the start the reader/watcher is thrown off into the performance and they're probably going to be very annoyed if you don't catch them at the end.
Endings are the most important part of the show, it's the last impression of the show
Endings have a big impact on the show because that's the end work. All the ideas presented, you can see how they played out. Half-baked ideas never tie together well. Having too many story threads tends to leave too many plotholes. But if you tie it together well enough, that's what people will remember most. Think Code Geass vs. Darling in the Franks. Code Geass was all over the place season 2, but pulled off a brilliant ending that tied things together well enough to be convincing. Darling in the Franks had a lot of cool ideas, but had no idea how to tie things together. A good ending can save a show and a bad ending can ruin it.
because we get them so rarely or often get bad ones it is that much more important in anime
I am a story writer. I am not a professional, but I've been studying / writing stories for N years and I am deeply passionate about it. So what I wanna tell... the ending is THE MOST important part of the story. This is what your readers/viewers will be left with. You need to satisfy as many people as possible, tie as many loose ends as possible. You want it big, you want it epic, you want it nostalgic, you want it to be the best your story can offer. If you mess up with your beginning, you can fix it later. If you mess up your ending, there's NO fixing that and no going back. It should be the highest note, the payoff. If you mess up really bad, your fans won't read and watch anything from you ever again.
That's why so many clown on AoT. That's why so many clown on Game of Thrones, Usagi Drop, Promised Neverland, Domekano etc etc. Learn from the best and from the worst.
It’s about the journey, not the destination… but yeah, the destination is pretty fucking important as well. Nobody wants a series that’s great or even good to go out on a wet fart. It can defeat the entire purpose of that story.
Not always. The destination matters too.
The journey is pretty dang important but it's the destination we remember. Nobody is going to appreciate a good journey if it led to a bad destination but people will forget a bad or mid journey if it let to a mind blowing destination
Lol the Odm gear got me into attack on titan
An Endings matters a lot especially in an industry where 70%-80% of the shows never even get one.
This is why, after watching hunders and thousands of anime, code geass ending still what I remember the most when being asked what is my image of a "perfect ending"
Fuck yeah! Buso Renkin mention! That series was rad, man.
I think it depends on a case-by-case situation whether an ending makes or breaks a story (as well as how highly regarded the story is held up as well by audiences). Some endings are good or bad, and some people range along a spectrum of shrugging their shoulders if a story ends bad to turning into Annie Wilkes from Misery at a bad ending.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a different experience when in the process of writing and telling/executing a story than it is being an audience for the story. I know I've had when, even just coming up with stories in my own head (as well as when creatively writing), I'd struggle with coming up with a good ending. ^^;
I think the ending wont really change my opinion of a show if i grew up with it and throughly enjoyed it, but its definitely really hard to get into a show that everyone complains about the ending. For example, I never watched promise never land and GOT because of the negative opinions on the endings
I find that if a show is phenomenal enough, people will accept even a mid ending. You really have to screw it up badly to destroy the legacy of your show
I feel like an ending is similarly important to the rest of the show, where it is just another flaw, and people can decide holistically if the series or movie is good based off flaws.
@@thomasffrench3639Yeah, it's only when the ending is in stark contrast to the show when it becomes a huge deal, for better or worse
@@Ash_Wen-li also how is the ending of Legend of the Galactic Heroes?
@@thomasffrench3639It's pretty good. Not spectacular but pretty good. It's a show that reads much like history so it feels you're seeing a snapshot in time rather than some epic event
@@thomasffrench3639 The ending itself like literally the very last episode, was just ok, but the great thing about that series is that you can't tell how it's going to end until the very last episode because so much is happening and it's so intense
As glass reflection put it. "The ending is paramount "
At least to me, endings matter. It colors everything that came before
Prison School manga is something I like to refer to when thinking about how much an ending can impact the story 😭
I don’t think it counts but psycho pass s1 had SUCH a GOOD ending. Satisfying, neat and conclusive. You don’t even need to watch the rest of the franchise, just s1.
Another Busuo Renkin Lover! Still remember that show. Bravo!!
From what I understand, the royal blood is closest to Ymir’s bloodlines so they reap the full benefits of Titan powers
I honestly can only think of like 5 shows I have ever watched anime and normal shows included that ended "perfectly". It is hard to resolve a show in a good way.
Yes, next question.
the ending of GTO manga
For me an ending is bad when
- A show ends on a cliffhanger (Heroman)
- If there is an abrupt change in any of the main characters and it affects the story.
- If it goes against the themes the story set up in the beginning.
- If there are still questions regarding plot points.
this seems a bit strict imo. in isolation these are definitely things you dont want to have happen but the reality is many great endings fail this test. The code geass ending that they mentioned is a great example. Even people who dont like the show resepct the ending and it always comes up in conversations on the topic. But it was in fact a cliffhanger, the main character recently went through a massive change in perspective and motive, tons of plot questions were left unresolved, and the specifics of the ending were a deliberate subversion of everything the mc preached and stood for from the beginning. So by your own metric it should be bad. but its not
So for:
1 Heroman
2 Pet Girl of Sakurasou
3 Haganai
4 Guilty Crown
@@SH1NK1R01 I am one of the few who didn't really care for the story in Code Geass and don't really care about the show in general. IMO the only reason Code Geass ending worked is because it's too idealistic and the MC wins.
@@shyguy5473 with all due respect. If you didn’t care for the story how in the world do you expect to have an accurate understanding of what made the ending good for so many people? You didn’t like it. And your explanation minimizes the ending.
@@SH1NK1R01 I think it was because of the character of Lelouch. Also the fact people watched Code Geass collectively as a community many years ago. This is just my guess. For Code Geass I wasn't fully immersed in the story since my exams were going on. Also the fact that I accidentally spoiled myself about what happens to the MC.
To this day i wonder what i even liked in tokyo revengers..i cringe at the time i was exited to read it after the firt season
This episode was so dear to my heart xD
Every show that has been mentioned by someone I sprung to my mind a mear second before it was said, Code Geass, Alchemist Cyberpunk all the great endings, and Joeys counter to Connor with the School Days bait hahaha so perfect!
I think the response simply come from how your perceive your own life as in the first place : if you see your daily life as "All of this must pay off in the end. I do all of this for an endgame. I do it for the future, for achieving greatness in the end" then it will transcribe into the way you consume movies/series as "the end of this show must pay off. The end of this show must make all of the journey of watching it worth it.". But if you see your life more as "I don't do this for an endgame, I do it for the sake of it, I don't care about the result." then it will transcribe into not really caring about the ending that much.
Just a theory of course but that seems very logical.
However this theory (if true) above only has a slight impact in your emotional reaction of story endings. Everyone can agree that great endings make shows mid to good / good to great, and vice versa with bad endings. Endings are very important.
But how much betrayed/disappointed you feel about an ending purely come from how much you are currently satisfied/disatisfied in your own personal life. Even if you are the biggest fan of the world of a show, if you feel extremely betrayed by it's badly written ending to the point that it really affect you emotionally in a unwanted bad way, that you believe that it has ruined your entire experience from it then it's only because of your dissatisfaction by your own life. However this last paragraph could just be projection from my own experience so it's very possible that I am wrong (but I am confident that I am not)
However if you feel betrayed by a show that has had a extremely positive impact on your life (to the point that it has literally saved you from suicide/grief/loss things like that) then it's a different story, that's totally fair/normal/understandable/good to feel "betrayed" if you have a deep personal connection with it. This is completely normal.
Well, entertainment is meant to be enjoyable: Hilarious, or exciting, to unwind or comfort yourself.
Virtually nothing is 100% "fun" from start to finish, with the exception of music (in my opinion).
Loose narratives in "concept albums" never take away from the main attraction: The music itself.
Sometimes the journey is its own "reward". Serviceable, but it could still be elevated or ruined.
Stuff that only gets better the more you look into it. Stuff that gets dumber under close scrutiny.
Replayability may or may not be a factor. Spoilers are no big deal (depending on who you ask).
Shingeki is a great example here because it's not just a few issues, there are lots of complaints...
The author chickened out. People had higher expectations, they were used to it (a compliment).
Not living up to your full potential is guaranteed to frustrate others. They could write it better.
Something like School Days will at least remain memorable, just for having a "ballsy" ending.
Ending matters - Usagi Drop
And that's why the anime cut out the uhhh...extra parts.
No it doesn't matter i enjoyed that ending
It was good only west people hated it
My heart was absolutely 💔. I follwed SnK manga weekly in the last arc leading upto the ending hyped beyond words of what i was witnessing, thinking i would be part of history because this will be the greatest story ever told. How meticulous it has been throughout and mangaka had talked about the ending, so i thought everything about this story was pre planned which i love. Ending matters to me the most in a story, and story matters to me the most among other aspects of a movie, tv show, novel, game or whatever. But for me the lv of ending was so below the lv of SnK as a whole, I can't put into words.
I have not been able to look at AoT anime since then. I will obviously watch the last season someday, I don't know when.
But this trend of manga endings highlights an underlying problem among the mangakas who are put under tremendous pressure by the editors just like executive producers destroy tv shows because of their ego.
So for Deadman Wonderland, as far as I understand, the artist had health complications towards the end. I think YuYuHakusho had a similar situation as well. Which in situations like that ill cut some slack.
There's a reason why FMA:Brotherhood remain a #1 in a lot of people's lists. The ending gave a very satisfying resolution. Everything came full circle. It's actual, competent writing.
They should have asked Glass Reflection the question, eh?
It absolutely matters. I'm not even keen on re-reading the Marley arc of AoT anymore even though I got the most enjoyment from it out of a manga in recent times.
anyone know where to buy Garnt's yuyu hakusho shirt
I really really really hate the emptyness of "no ending no continuation in plans" more then most thing. A media has to fuck up exceptionally to make me think its would've been better without an ending.
Even the kinds of endings that you have to actively try to ingnore less they sully your memories of the rest of the story at least give a sense of closure and freedom to move on or write over them on ao3.
Didn't expect mentioning Busou Renkin in this one tbh.....😃😃😃
ofcourse its matter. its the hardest part of making a story. only few can done it properly.
The Jaime thing is actually worse because the entire basis of his character stems from the idea that despite being an absolute shithead, at his core he really cared about the values of knighthood and the innocents
Yeah, why the fuck did he say that he didn't care for innocents?
D&D really didn't know what they were doing?
5:38 no but he’s right here they never explain this part
I only came here just looking for someone to explain that but no one has 😭😭
There are two anime endings that immediately come to mind when I think about ones that pissed me off. Mahou Sensou, with their “fuck it, time travel” ending and Akame Ga Kill with their “lol fuck it, everyone dies” anime only ending.
Imo the only good charachter was Esdeath the rest was so boring or died too early for me to care about them.
Akame Ga Kill didn’t follow the manga ending. The original ending ended with Tatsumi and the pink haired girl surviving but Tatsumi ends up being stuck as a dragon as a result of gaining more power
Imo I didn’t have a problem with the AGK anime ending, it felt in theme with how brutal and edgy it was. Was it good as a whole? Ehhhh idk, mixed feelings on it. The story was basic edgy dark fantasy with surface level characters that didn’t have any depth. But the fights felt genuinely tense since this show didn’t have any qualms about killing off any character, so it always had you on the edge of your seat. It kept that through all the way to the end, which is why the ending felt fitting. The manga ending however, I strongly disliked. That dragon crud was just dumb
The ending is important, but it is the least important component of a story I'd say. A solid foundation, a proper prologue and a smooth story development and pacing are way more important to set up for the cherry on top (the ending).
Connor: I love endings that leave you feeling hollow
Me, yelling at my CarPlay display: Madoka Magica: Rebellion, which *you* don't like, Connor!
Joey: Madoka Magica's ending was OK
The salt
devilman crybaby ending still one of my favorites
so good!!
Most memorable ending of all time is goodnight Punpun..... I'll wait.
with erens plan in attack on titan feels like an attempt at recreating something similar to lelouches plan at the end of code geass. but the execution was... different.
Eren died a virgin and accomplished nothing! Lmfao
the ending matters a lot because if it mess up, you have no chance to recover
The curse of the attack titan is the future sight ability. Realizing that no matter what they try to do freely, will always end up as predicted. In Erens case it’s a fight of free will vs fate. When Eren seen the future and what he would do it scared him and he denied it at first. Yet ultimately he realized in the end that not only was the future going to happen but that he actually wanted it to happen. See when Eren first seen it he was still in that state of mind of a kid where the idea of committing those acts would never cross his mind. Yet the mind of his future self is a very different man.
The conversation between him and Armin is meant to focus on Erens guilt in his admittance of wanting it. While Armin basically reassured him that if Eren is evil then they’ll both go to hell because Armin has also done terrible things freely.
As for the royal bloodline thing. It was actually proven to be a lie since Eren was able to convince and take control of Ymir from his brother. Basically anyone can convince Ymir. The “royal” bloodline was a way to control who could and who had the knowledge as long as you had the founding titan. If we remember the first king was a pacifist who wanted peace and so erased everyone’s memory. This is why.
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Endings are hard to write up in any media. As long as the characters are developed as intended throughout the story and it makes sense where they are by the end, then I'm generally satisfied.
Endings don’t completely define a work, but for serial formats with weekly releases the ending is the final impression and surmising of everything the audience has gone through - their resonances and emotions can be either perceived as being betrayed or rewarded for how a work ends.
Like it or not, the end is the last thing the audience will see after they process their emotions and experiences with the work. It’s unfair to throw out the efforts of something if the ending of that thing is subpar, but a good ending is typically that *it* factor that sets the truly memorable and amazing shows from stuff that’s labeled as “wasted potential”
Angel Beats ending is goated imo too
just blew my mind. That bloodline thing really doesnt make sense at all if you think about it
Texhnolyze (2003) has an ending that leaves you hollow and fucked up, like what Connor craves for. (Do give it a watch)
It inspired Ergo Proxy (2006) for many elements, way before Cyberpunk Edgerunners (2022). I also noticed that some popular anime endings are anime originals, so they don't worry about any source material.
Shoutout to "Armed Librarians: The Book of Bantorra" (2009), also an epic ending.
Yes, yes it does.
Also RIP Daisuke Satō
RIP Starship Troopers Roughnecks
10:23 Boooo you dreadful person
I don't know....there's quite a few movies and shows that leave a bad taste in my mouth because of the ending. So endings for me matter quite a bit. But I'll admit there are some shows where the ending is just meh while I can still go back and enjoy the show again!
Even though it wasn’t supposed to be the end, season three of daredevil is one of my favorite endings
the "original" ending to Battle Angel Alita, was terribly rushed. Glad Last Order came around and kept it going and tossed that last bit of the original series.
connor really doubling down on the togashi comment when he said he cares more about the journey than the ending
Do endings matter? Easy to answer: Game of Thrones. You have to stick the landing. A badly done ending can negatively impact the show/series so much that people are permanently turned off the show/IP. People will not spend time or money on a show they feel wasted their time with poor execution or a poor conclusion. The showrunners' careers have been severely impacted by their poor execution and ending to GoT ever since.
Avatar the last air bender had a great ending for a masterpiece ❤
Of course Connor doesn't care about the ending, why I'm not surprised? XD
I guess yes
Ooooooooh Busou renkin)
I loved this anime.
I watched it three times.
And this Opening daaaaamn it was good)
Can’t believe you forgot the ending of Steins;Gate
Banana Fish was a good ending, it messed me up. I like shows that mess me up in the end, Those tend to be the most impactful for me
Regarding Yu Yu Hakusho, while the ending arc of is disappointing because it's so short (cause Togashi was basically dying, and probably never fully recovered from it), the actual Final episode of the anime is actually great, if you take it by itself is hard to find any fault in it, it's a satisfying beautiful final episode. The arc preceding it is where the contention is, and while we all wished it had all the time it needed to be great, it was not worth losing his life over it.
Game of thrones, wonder egg priority, Dragonball Z, How i met your mother, just to name a few
How I met your mother really hurt. The way they treated Robin and Barney's characters was disgusting.
Hell yes the ending matters, School days batshit ending saves a rather trashy boring show from obscurity. So does Code Geass, despite getting convoluted and having filler moments in R2, it's ending more than redeems the show and cements it as the GOAT.
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Devilman Crybaby, Evangelion (the remake)
The End of Evangelion > Rebuild Ending
So Connor brought up a point about bitter sweet endings
I wanna take a moment to instead gush about Bitter Sweet OVAs/ One off Episodes
Spoilers ahead so beware
Back in 2014 and anime called God Eater based on the video game of the same title came out
And with it, hands down one of my favourite episodes in an anime period, it explains the backstory of the main character but from the perspective of his older sister, turns out the MC was adopted by a family that was rejected from that worlds Government Sanctioned Safe Zone and as such had to live in the outside world with the horrors plaguing it, as the episode goes by the family members that adopted the MC Lenka each sacrifice themselves in an effort to keep this abandoned baby alive, he's not even related to them but they still care for him as if he were their own, it such a show of the best parts of humanity that it single handedly changed how i felt about the entire season as up to that point I wasn't really a fan of the main characters single minded hatred, its fine to hate the enemy but it made him rash and in the dangerous world of God Eater a level head goes farther than rushing to your death, but after see all that he lost and all that other gave up to get him to where he is I could see where the rage that drove him prior came from, not only that but the episode itself doesn't shy away from disturbing imagery like the father being eaten alive while the older sister and the MC have to leave him behind so they can get to Friar(The Government Safe Zone Base) and later the sister silting her throat so the MC has to leave her behind and save himself as he couldn't leave her even though she'd weigh him down, its so sad and I remember it to this day, have the entire episode on my Phone right now
I really agree with Connor when he says tragedy is more memorable than happy endings because in the end we want people to be happy but that hopelessness builds our empathy and is hard to forget and let go of than happy moments
imo endings are important. They can make or brake a story, as long as its a satisfying ending its good; satisfaction dosnt have to lean towards good or bad either, i would like to have all endings be good but sometimes its unfeasible and the ending blows but as long as it concludes the story in good fit for whatever is going on then its good. And stories with multiple endings are always plauged with shitty endings because there is always going to be one that is the best and fits the story the best, but even so alternate endings should also be satsifying in their own way.
Hell Re:zero has many endings and not even one for the main timeline yet and they all fit for their timeline in some satisfying way.
since 99% of all endings are decent/mid its hard to commit them to memory or rank them accordingly because theres too many
I like the Higurashi anime's ending, but overall its not a great ending, but it does set up more into the lore of the sequel story Umineko and the witches, for Umineko dont watch the anime its trash compared to the visual novel
I think Shiki is one of the worst "horror" or "suspense" animes iv ever seen but i still think the ending is good.
Endings that I can remember being fantastic include: MGS3, MGSV, The Midnight Meat Train movie, DS3's 2 optional secret endings, DS2's walk away ending, Konosuba, The Cabin in the Woods
Endings that i can remember being really bad are: Blood-C, its all i got really since why would i commit brain storage to something stupid unless its annoyingly stupid like Blood-C's ending
Most of the stuff i watch or read is still on going so they dont have the endings yet or the anime was dropped and never pick back up and i havnt read the source yet. I think Konosuba is the only one for me where the source material is already finished and Iv read it and thought that the ending was good enough for me to write that its good
You never can make good enough reason for a genocide.
You can't justify it in any way possible.
Eren wasn't gonna actually genocide the world at first but ymir put his actual desire into action
Depends how great is the series until the ending, AOT ending was good because the give closure and the journey was great.
But when you show goes down hill 2-3 seasons before the ending, all goes to the trash, because you can forget a bad ending, but not a series of bad seasons.
If the story has an end goal that remains relevant through all of the story and moves the plot, then yes its very important. If the end goal of the story is very broad and the impact of reaching it is not clear then its not that important.
For me, depending of the type of anime sometimes the longer is the story is the less important the ending becomes because it moves to a lower level of priority. For example One Piece, I don't care much of what the "one piece" is, there is enough good story in the series that regardless of how it ends it will have little impact on how I rate it.