We talk Starboard All Stars for 2022 and 14'x28" full SUPboarder review
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- See full post on SUPboarder here : supboardermag.com/equipment_g... Year after year Starboard have been focused on giving us the fastest raceboards out there. But it’s not all about going super narrow to get that speed gain. In this video we talk about what Starboard have tuned and changed to make their already world class all water race board even faster and more user friendly for 2022.
We also look at how this 14′ x 28″ wider race board crosses over to other SUP disciplines, not just racing. - Sport
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Fantastic review. Thanks for the information.
Glad it was helpful!
There is a feeling in the SUP race community that thinner is automatically faster. The physics of the board would make that correct... but that forgets the biggest mass of the SUP system ...the paddlers. If you don't have great stability ( like my ancient fat carcass), a narrow board can be slower! I found this when I bought a Ocean Deep Dryft 14x 24 and immediately went slower. I found a large amount of my energy was going into staying upright instead of being able to paddle. Bought a SIC RS SF 14x28 and immediately went faster. Like 2 to 3 minutes in our 4km TT. I have since gratuated to a 14x25.5 One Edge Pro 2.0, but I could not have got here without going back to the 28. Possibly even given SUP up.
Great insights Greg! You're spot on with the width of boards. If you go too narrow, you find yourself trying to balance the whole time rather than focusing on technique. Best if paddlers can try some boards before they buy - borrowing a friends or demo some equipment to see what's right. Thanks for the comment. Beau
how much is your weight so I can understand your board width journey and success?
@@loraineotte798 I am 69 and weigh 85kg. Not just weight but height as well. If you are shorter and the same weight you turning moment to tip over is a lot less. I am 177cm. I went to a Satrboard Waterline 14x28 after the SIC 14x28. The Waterline is a lot faster than most people think it is. Almost no wake generated. No sound and just glides. Got to just over 30minutes for our technical flatwater course. I have moved to a dugout ONE Edge Pro 2.0 14x 25.5. The dugout means that I am a lot lower and closer to waterlevel, so there is a lower tipping moment. Even so I stil have to balance instead of paddling occasionally.
On board 28", I would like to see a attachment for things. Since this board can be used for touring.
Good point. Would be useful. We also think this can be added to many other brands too.
Hi Reuben. I have 2 iSups, 12'6 X 30 tourer and a 14' x25 " . My race isup is only a minute faster in flat conditions as most of my energy is lost keeping upright which surprised me as I thought it would make a big difference. In chop becomes tippy as well .Much better form and balance on the tourer. The figures have thrown me a little as to what width hardboard to go for. Want to gain more speed but also want the stability. Currently 6'1 which isn't going to change😂 weight is around 93 kg. I do want a hardboard but want the gains to be noticeable for the extra cost and know it's been money well spent. Cheers.
Hey Paul, the gain will be greater in the choppy water for sure compared to your iSUPs. We have used ,hard and iSUPs in the past and on mirror flat water the speed is much closer but as soon as the water starts to move the hard boards have so much more drive and speed through the water. As for what size to go for... 26" or 24.5. If you are going to be paddling on flat stuff all the time the narrower board could be fine. But it sounds like you might be better on a 26" due to you paddling in lots of water types! Any help? Reuben
@@SUPboardermag Reuben , that sounds spot on. Thank you so much for that. Just one more thing. Would a 26" dug out all star be as stable as a 28" Generation. I've tried the 28" Generation and that felt lovely and stable. Cheers. Paul
Awesome review Reuben. Soo excited to get on this revised design after my best Starboard experience on the 2021 Allstar. Question in past yrs the 14x28 often was more tailored to Downwind. Did you ask about this or get to compare to a narrower model? I notice the tail design on the 28 is different for instance so had to ask. Cheers!
Good question Chris. We are still waiting to see a smaller 2022, but I get the feel the all the All Stars 26 and down have been made to handle the bump riding more than in the passed. The starboard promo videos really push that way too! So I guess this will aline with the 28" wide board. But I will ask. Thanks Reuben
@@SUPboardermag Seen a few videos of the narrower sizes now and own a 2021 AS. The 28 is def unique - Tail is wider, less overall thickness. Looking like they stuck to their age old mantra of making the widest board the most touring and Downwind focused. Have you guys gotten it out in some good wonwind conditions yet!?
Looking at a used 2016 14'x27" all star. How much faster/stable etc are the newer boards? Would waiting to find a newer design make much real difference or should I be happy moving from a 12'6" touring board?
As I said in your other comment the older boards are way more stable. Not as fast but it depends how top and speed is important to you. I would pick stability overall because I'm not looking at that super topping race pace. Thanks Reuben
Please check out the LightCorp Signature 14x22. Hardcore racing board and the ultimate balance challenge. Don’t go for anything else. Best paddled with a Braca Marlin paddle. 💪🤙
Their boards are pretty impressive.
@@SUPboardermag Do your one leg balance challenge on a Signature 14x22. 😉👍
LOL yeah right!
Hey SUPboarder hope all you guys had a good New Years. Im looking for a board for using for 95% open ocean touring and training and for overnighters or weekends camping with lightweight kit and for downwinders but looking for the fastest board possible for efficient paddling and covering distance and in choppy waters. I'm 75kg not sure weather to go for the Allstar 14x28 and sticking some lash tabs on with some epoxy for strapping down some gear or to just go for the Touring 14x28 starlite?. What would you guys thinks?. Cheers Mike
Hi Mike. Happy New Year! We'd recommend looking at the 14' x 28" Generation as that board would suit you perfectly. If you have already considered it, the All Star would be the next best choice. Hope that helps. Beau
@@SUPboardermag Thanks For the reply Beau I really appreciate that. Think I’ll go for the Allstar as would appreciate the less slapping of the waves and more punching through. Thanks for the reply. Cheers Mike
It’s great they make a 28” version of their race board, obviously for the heaviest riders. In my opinion, people who shop for these will know what they are doing, the 14’ sups are not for beginners. Going from an 32-33” iSup straight to a 14’ €2500+ race board seems strange but that’s just my view. I liked the demo of the secondary stability, it seems like you can never fall off from this board. Thanks again for the very informative video.
Thanks for the comment Georgi. Your will be surprised about the amount of comments we get about coming off of a iSUP and moving straight onto these types of boards. Happy SUPing Reuben
@@SUPboardermag Hi Reuben, 2 years ago I was literally in the same boat (pun intended) but my storage room, my wallet and my skill level all voted against. Whatever floats everybody’s boat (again pun intended).
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Any width advice for a 95 kg rider? 28 would probably be too much, but I’m not sure which smaller width would be right for me.
What do you want to do with it? If you want to push yourself and get on a board that will offer you a bit of a challenge, but loads of performance gains the 26" wide is a board that many paddler your size have. The 28 is still fast but will offer you a much easier time for you to focus on good paddle tech and better for choppy waters too. Any help? Thanks Reuben
@@SUPboardermag appreciate the reply!
I’d honestly use it for exercise & touring in the Great Lakes around Michigan in the US. Been looking at the all star for a while because I’d also like to get into racing at some point, but touring around for a day in the Great Lakes (Lake Huron primarily) would be my primary use.
We get chop on some/most days, but it has some days where it’s basically glass near the shore.
I have an iRocker Blackfin V that got me hooked this year, so I’ve got my all around board already, but now I’m looking for more performance that I don’t think my iSUP can really provide.
@@wingmanj2122 I own a 2021 Allstar in 14x26 and have a 23.5 sprint. I grew up around the great lakes, you def want a versitile board for mixed conditions and good for downwinding. I am 86kg the 14x26 is more than I need and likely ideal for mix of touring, downwind and racing. If I didnt have a spirnt I would go 24.5 for more speed but it wouldn't tour and downwind as well. The 2022's are even more stable. You could go 24.5 but I would say 26" is the ticket for best mix of ease and speed. These new allstars are soo good - easily best SUP I have ever owned.
Thanks for the comment Chris
@@chrisgravel7157 Appreciate the info! I might actually get to check out a 28” and 26” wide wood carbon in 1-2 weeks (found a dealer that I can demo the boards at, about a 6-hour drive away).
I’m around 6’ 215 lbs, so I’d be more interested in the 26” wide wood carbon. The plan would be a lot of touring (just a few hours at most), downwinding and racing (in a year or two), all in or around the Great Lakes, so chop is top of mind.
I’m thinking this year’s 26” would probably be the board for me.
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