I played MASS EFFECT ANDROMEDA In 2022 so you don't have to...
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2022
- There's a lot of positive things to be said about Mass Effect. Andromeda is in a galaxy of its own in the worst possible way. For many, this is the entry that killed the Mass Effect franchise. For others, a misunderstood black sheep. With a half decade gap between me and the last time I played through this game, I decided to suffer through it one more time for all of you to see if anything had improved.
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I liked it when I first played it, but after replaying the OG trilogy recently, I realized just how empty (both emotionally and literally) this game felt compared to the prior entries.
Yeah, that's why it was interesting going back in a post Legendary Edition world.
I know exactly what You mean ... Like maybe if it had nothing to do with mass effect it could have done better but i remember every lil npc that they put on for fan service , like the son of zaeed massani or cornad verner sister felt more like a joke than a Homenage
As in, it was much better than the rest.
@@FalconOfStorms You definitely only played Andromeda and therefore have an inherent bias towards it. The game is bad and is only mass effect in title. You want to play a game for the gameplay, go play COD.
@@water5054 You definitely are on drugs. I played the trilogy multiple times for different roleplaying opportunities. Andromeda is better.
I played Andromeda on pc when it launched and remember actually enjoying it. Sure the story and characters were completely forgettable, which for a Mass Effect game is not a good thing but the adventure and exploring the limited open world planets was enjoyable.
Heavy Mass Effect 1 vibes in the gameplay.
Yeah I never thought it was terrible overall in that its game play was fairly good. The open world part was kind of poorly done, but otherwise the game play was good. But the characters and story were bad to mediocre, and that is why I play a RPG.
Same thing here. Was a decent Mass Effect game for what it’s worth.
I’ve never played this game and I may pick it up from GameStop tomorrow
the story and characters in mass effect are the whole soul of the game.... thats why andromeda sucked
I'm 100% convinced that Bioware could have clawed this game back with DLC. I know that's not how you make a game. But there was too much potential wasted.
And the multiplayer was bloody fun.
Yup, just said that in another comment. Their DLC skills are still sharp. I look at Inquisition's Trespasser and how good that was compared to the rest of the game that I didn't enjoy... sheesh, it was GOOD.
DLC would not have fixed;
The dense plot.
The dense characters.
The horrible enemy AI.
The fact the original trilogy legit means nothing--maybe Liara would still be alive, but, she's 600 Light Years away.
@@ezekielcaselton5842 you're right. But it may have added more to it. Now it will be forever remembered as a meme.
I agree. I think the main problem with the game isn't so much the game itself but that the trilogy came before it. The story and characters are somewhat derivative of what we'd already experienced. However, if this is someone's introduction to a Mass Effect game, I reckon it's pretty solid. I believe the gameplay and environments are probably superior to the trilogy and so with some quality DLC/expansions, it had the potential to be right up there with some of Bioware's best work. It'll be interesting to see what Bioware do with the new instalment, especially with Starfield coming out and how they might react to that.
I was hoping to find out what happened to the Quarians and why they went dark. I've been imaging that some reaper Geth snuck aboard and that would've lead to them being the villains in andromeda 2. But alas we shall never know
The writing was the big thing with me. There's SO much forced humor. It's like they were trying to do the Citadel DLC type thing without having earned it. It didn't earn it with the time and weight of the choices that got us there. And it certainly didn't earn it with the characters.
Citadel is goofy antics with your friends. Me:A is like watching strangers make an ass out of themselves for attention.
I really agree, but one of my other big pet peeves was the bad repetitive npc models. Everybody looked exactly like everyone was a clone...
@@Slayer398 I saw some analysis of the Asari models and why they looked as bad as they do, apparently it's mostly down to the texture and layering. In ME1-3 there is only 1 asari body and face model, which is that of Liara, Samara/Morinth is the only exception. The difference being that for skin textures, the OT used a gray base model and applied colored textures to it along with some unique shading, I don't understand it completely but it is able to portray much more variance this way. Andromeda uses only one Asari body and face as well (Except PeeBee) but the base model is Blue, being painted on with some markings rather than different skin colors and shading, so they all look much more similar than the Asari of the OT. Andromeda also has a problem with the female humanoids where all the necks are too thin for the size of the heads.
@@l.p.antaree8216 thanks for the info on that, it explains a lot on Andromeda's models vs ME.
I believe it was a loyalty mission where it involved boarding a ship and there’s a scene involving communication with the enemy and an airlock being open and almost sucking your team into space. That section had me laughing out loud but you are correct, the humour wasn’t always on mark.
I recently replayed it with all patches and imo i had a great time game play combat is very good some facial expressions are still goofy/funny AF but i loved it.
I agree, it's the best part of the game. If I could have the story level of the first 3 ME games with Andromeda's gameplay and combat, I'd need no other game.
Agreed. I thought the hate train was over hyped and full of copy cats. I fully enjoyed all 150 hours of my playthrough.
Agree one hundred here.
@@robertkirkpatrick1826 EXACTLY BRO!!
I don't think I have the patches on my game. 😭
While the combat can be fun on it's own, this isn't what I'm looking for when it comes to Mass Effect. The limitation to 3 skills works in MP, but it's not enough in SP. And the fact that I can't command my squad properly (no pause function) is a big step back. At least for me.
Andromeda was my first Mass Effect. I found it real cheap during the first lockdown and thought I'd just give it a try. And I actually really enjoyed it, I thought the biotic and technical abilities were super fun in combat.
I got the legendary edition when it came out and of course it was much better in most ways, but the combat in Andromeda is still more enjoyable.
I've personally found I like ME3 combat just a little better than Andromeda, Something I realized about 40-50 hours into andromeda is that there is a bunch of animation delays after your control inputs, ie. your gun fires a couple frames after you press the button. There are a couple other things like that with relation to that. I do find the mobility in combat to be extremely fun to play. The only thing I cannot forgive Andromeda for is removing the squad power controls, that shit is terrible, it's like having ME1 squad mate effectiveness again.
Unique race melee.
Same, Andromeda was my first ME game. Played it in 2022 then I went back & played the legendary edition can’t get past the controls and combat. Andromeda spoiled me, but the story in the trilogy is much better
The thing that sticks with me the most is "My face is tired..." and the emotionless stare she gives saying it. It's like they were trying to make an excuse for her strange appearance.
Nail on the head
When I finally did get around to playing Andromeda I found it much better than I expected based on the initial feedback. It is much better than it is portrayed as and fixing this would have been much better use of time than moving to Anthem.
It’s pretty good when you first play through it because the gameplay is so strong. But Andromeda is pretty much devoid of replay value because of how bad the story and character elements are.
@@ComicsLamar agreed. I just finished the original mass effects for the first time and just started andromeda. I’d rather go back and play through the originals again
Huge fan of the original trilogy, finally played Andromeda last year. Its of course not on the same level as the originals, but still a decent game in its own right. Combat system felt great especially. Just a shame that it didn't deliver on its potential
It definitely deserved a chance with DLC. That's the most frustrating aspect to me.
@@MrMattyPlays Absolutely - the Quarian Ark storyline could've been a whole expansion, and tried to right some of the wrongs of the original game. Love the current content btw Matty
The gameplay is fun but it's still horribly balanced. Unlike the original trilogy, the only playstyle viable in Andromeda on insanity mode is a combo master or soldier. If you try to vanguard charge and nova on insanity in andromeda, you get mowed down instantly.
So while I like the jump jets and stuff, I don't like the playstyle balancing. I honestly prefer the playstyle of the original trilogy. Choosing a build and sticking to it and having ALL builds be viable for insanity. It also makes the game replayable. Being able to instantly change your build in andromeda not only makes it unplayable for multiple playthroughs, but most builds aren't even viable on insanity in the first place!
@@MrMattyPlays they scraped dlc updates due to poor performance unfortunately. That's what they did to borderlands pre sequel
shame that MASS EFFECT was never about combat.
Thanks for your time. I am really enjoying this series. I enjoyed Andromeda i guess i was an outcast on this one. Hope this series continues.
No you’re not. It was actually a good game people just don’t know what they want anymore. Maybe it’s because I played legendary edition this year and andromeda now and not on launch. Sure the choices and story could’ve been slightly more impactful, but overall I loved the crafting, the fact that we sent people 600 years across the universe to another galaxy, where we are tasked with finding suitable homes in case of “a reaper attack” let’s say. The angara are a fun new species though raw in terms of overall depth. The combat is a change that takes an adjustment but that’s just the result of modernization, and I loved the jumping hovering fights.
I've always called this game a "coulda...woulda...shoulda" game. With a little more time and TLC this game could have been excellent. The patches did help the game, but unfortunately, the characters and storyline remain the weakest portion of the game. A good DLC/expansion could have drastically improved the game--we'll never know. It's a shame because there is a diamond in there. Wasted potential
Exactly, such wasted potential.
Yup
In all honesty it's pretty impressive the game was as even as good as it was. Bioware pretty much made the entire thing in the last 18 months. If they'd had their direction from day one, and so actually had a 3-4 year development time fully spent making the Andromeda we got, then it could have been incredible.
Definitely. It's crazy how much the final product changed from what was originally planned, especially graphically. Even Cora looked super unique compared to the soccer mom we ended up with in the final product, and the game looked a lot more gritty than what we got. All that with meaningful, deep dialogue and a great story about exploration? It would've sold like hot bread
The only things I liked about this was the combat and movement everything else I hated and going from my first time playing mass effect with the legendary edition straight into this made me bounce off it immediately and actually made me replay the other games just a few days after completing them.
This was actually the first Mass Effect game I really played. I did play ME1 in 2007 for like 10 minutes and didnt like it (I was like 13 and had no patience). My friend who was big into Mass Effect was so hyped for Andromeda so I got it with him. I had fun with the game. The story/characters were completely forgettable but the gameplay was so much fun. Outside of the tech problems, I didnt understand what all the fuss was over this game. To me, it was a perfectly fine, but not amazing, game.
It wasnt until a couple years after when I first played the full ME trilogy and was blown away did I realize why everybody was so let down by Andromeda. I still think its an ok game with some redeeming qualities, but its definitely a massive disappointment for a Mass Effect game.
Interestingly, every person that I know that played this game that hadn't previously played any of the first three Mass Effect games, loved it. Whereas friends that had previously played the first three games didn't like it!
Shepard and the Reapers were a hard bar to top thats for sure
Yah that like thinking Alien 3 is the first movie then finding out Alien and Aliens exist.
Grew up on the original trilogy and I like Andromeda, but one of those games that exemplifies gaming development today. So much potential and a bunch of good components but managed like crap by the developers and investors and put into development hell then launched in a state it shouldn’t have been. Thankfully this age of modders can make games like this really good by fixing what should’ve been done by developers originally before launch a year or two after it launches
Same for me. I think the reason it didn't click for mass effect fans is that it was a new beginibg while they wanted a continuation.
Now, i have played all the games and i understand that they wanted to know what happened after 3 but old mass effect fans have a realy hard time understanding that biowere not comppeting the andromeda storyline feels even more shit cause we never got an ending of any kind.
That was because people who hadn't played the OT were EAware's target market for MEA, cos that mess was a "soft reboot" of the series. They thought they could got rid of the OT entirely, creating something "new" (Geth = Keth🙄)...but failing miserably🤷♂️😒
I started it a few hours ago. My first Mass Effect game.
I’m just finishing up Andromeda this week. Started it for the first time right when I finished LE. I enjoyed the experience overall. Not the most fantastic game but decent overall.
I played it recently. enjoyed it as much as I originally did. Idc what anyone says, Andromeda is good fun
I get why a lot of people didn’t like the game. I thought it was like a solid 6-7/10. With an extra DLC or 2 with a few patches it could have been something special. The gameplay and character trees were great!
It's entire problem is that the trilogy came before it and it tried to connect itself to it. If it just called itself Andromeda it would have been a solid b-. The story tanked it
@@razorflossrazor2937 I agree the best story line is the one that is tied to the Milky Way about discovering what happened with the reapers after they left.
@@razorflossrazor2937 I somewhat agree, but it being a new game series wouldn't have helped its poor writing, which previously has been one of BioWares strongest suits.
I recently played the legendary edition and andromeda again and I love this game. Not sure why people don't get in 2023 the way to fix a game isn't to totally trash it and say they will never play it again at launch. That's a good way for game companies to want to not touch it with a 10ft pole... as we have seen recently. This game could have been amazing. I found myself really loving the crew and there were tons of unique dialogues and conversations to be had between missions.... and Spikey Girlfriend. Need I say more..........Vetra.
Maybe is because i played before the first mass effects and years after release date, but i really enjoyed andromeda.
One think that does really well is the movement (via jetpack), the gunplay and class system.
My first mass effect was andromeda, and i am just recently playing through the original trilogy. One thing that made me hesitate initially with MS 1 is the lack of vertical movement, I seriously hated it at first, but eventually got more and more into the story. To me the story of andromeda was great, but obviously i wasn't able to compare it with the original trilogy. I get that people don't like andromeda but to me and I assume to you, this was an enjoyable game.
@@Maikcoleon I agree completely!
@@Maikcoleon you don't know how much expectation we have after the trilogy , the setting is really interesting and when it actually came out what is this ? bioware really fallen , dragon age i , mass effect andromeda , anthem is their downfall bioware used to be so good at making a rpg game they have their strong aspect suddenly they lost their identitiy it's just like cp77 after the witcher 3
@@chocho6766 I am going through ME2 at the moment and it is great, I'm starting to see why people got upset. Even though, the gameplay is still lacking the story and the characters are just out of this world (lol). I still think that people should manage their expectations with every game but I see why people were hyped so much that they ended up hating the game.
@@Maikcoleon yeah the gameplay is old but the game is still great , you should try dragon age origin too again the gameplay is old but it's still a great game
I've been trying to give the game another shot but now that legendary edition is 60fps I just can't do the 30fps on xbox and too lazy to play on pc after work since I am at my desk all day, another great video matty
One of my friends used to have a desk job and he would always tell me how having a job like that made him steer away from PC gaming and back more towards console gaming cus after 8 hours straight of sitting at a desk the last thing he wanted to do was come home and sit at another damn desk for hours.
Just went back to this one to grab the few achievements I had left. It wasn’t as bad as I remembered, granted I skipped through most of the convos, but gameplay and exploration was much better than I remembered.
story was ok for me, wish the open environment was bit more flushed out with content and places but the combat was amazing compared to the older games and i hope they go back to using this improved system for the new game (of course improved even further to modern standards)
@MrMattyPlays@Telegram Only wait what??
Its a scam bot that replied to you
No lifed ME Legendary Edition last week so I decided to give Andromeda a go. At the beginning I thought it wasn't bad but about 10 hours in it began to feel like a job rather than a game. I decided to stop playing it tonight and I uninstalled it.
This was literally me.
Do elaborate. I’m in a similar situation and considering old school BioWare Kotor games instead of Andromeda
@@RoaringPhilosopherthe original Mass effect trilogy is open world per se but it's fairly linear. Mass effect Andromeda is more so in terms of fallout in terms of big open world.
I have always said , move the gameplay from andromeda to the trilogy without the swapping classes gimmick and the original trilogy would’ve been even more magical
Best combat in the series, wasted potential personified.
The sad thing is. Chris King the lead gameplay designer for this game and Anthem left Bioware in 2020.
Worst everything else.
@@deeznutz1601 I mean seriously say what you will about Andromeda and Anthem but they felt fun to play it's just a shame his work was wasted because everything else about the games suck
Mass effect Andromeda was probably the first big case of the devs canceling dlc cause they're too lazy to actually fix the issue.
I played this last year and personally thought the game was a ton of fun, I didn't have any bugs in my playthrough either so maybe I got lucky? Anyway I thought it was great with abilities also the jumping and evading but movement could be smoother between walking and running around. Makes me excited for next installment in series.
I still love Andromeda, despite its flaws. I like a lot of the characters, the plot and setting are fantastic, and the combat is the best in the series so far. The crafting system is deep, making an already wide variety of weapons even more amazing. Oh, and I get to mix my two favourite classes, which is a huge win.
I was so bummed out when a bunch of angry people on the internet got the DLC canceled. I loved this game, and I really wanted to see where the plot was going to go in the next one, and I was stoked when I heard the DLC was a quarian ark, I was so ready. But instead bioware listened to the stupids on Twitter.
With some mods, the game is amazing imo. I had over 40 hours in it and nowhere near done!
well doing same shit for 200 hours is considered fun for braindead ppl without imagination.
I just finished Andromeda. It's story doesn't hold a candle to ME1-3, but I had a fucking blast.
I've come to find that MEA is 7 game in a family of 8s and 9s that's treated as a 3. A fun but flawed game that showed a lot of promise but couldn't get out of in-office politics (By this I mean how the Montreal and Edmonton studios could not manage a clear vision for this project.) To touch a little on the tone system, it could've gone the route of DA2 where your character picks up the tone over the course of the game through your choices. But unfortunately, it's another idea that fell to the wayside.
Also I've already done another playthrough this year lol. Anyway, looking forward to the next ME (just as long as Shep is left to rest 🥴)
PS picking the casual/ emotional responses leads to more "comical" tone most of the time. logical/professional is actually pretty balanced.
Absolutely not, it’s not a good game it’s more of a 4 in a family of 9s.
i disagree it’s more of a 5 or 6 in a family of 9s.
@@_YourFlyIsOpen Ok
@@asura7915 ok
@@daetheyleiddon't listen to those snowflakes they've never played it. I've got several playthroughs done and hundreds of hours in the game and I would agree with your ranking of a seven in a group of 8 or 9s
I remember when the game launched and every human's eyes had no gloss and looked painted on. It was a bit jarring and I'm glad it was one of the first things patched. But it's crazy how it was missed in the first place.
"don't judge a book by it's cover"
Mr Matty: judging an entire game by it's main menu
MEA was the first game I ever pre-order. I regretted it only because they dropped the game so fast, no DLC no multi-player update. After they patched it I enjoyed the game play
I recently play and finish the legendary edition trilogy and IT WAS AMAZING and I can't wait for mass effect 4 !!
I was wondering if I should try Andromeda and suddenly see your video what an amazing timing.
Don't do it to yourself. It's horrible.
If you have game pass, then yes. Play it and see for yourself.
I liked it.
Make up your own mind. Andromeda is good. It looks good and the combat is the best of the series. 90% of people who hate it haven't played it. They just listen to some media sites and tow the line. Give it a shot if you liked the trilogy.
Definitely play it. It's a great game.
It's nothing like ME 1-3. It's a space buddy-cop adventure with vague touches on dark themes. It also takes storylines from the original. If you play Andromeda like it's a completely new game, I think it's worth it. When you slap the Mass Effect logo on it is when it makes me angry.
I played Andromeda for the first time this year after a long time of expecting to hate it, and I really enjoyed it. It has some issues with the writing and the open worlds can get a bit boring from time to time, but overall it's one of the most fun experiences I've had on the PS4. Gameplay is great (possibly best in the series), soundtrack is great, sense of exploration is great. The changes to the dialogue system and removal of paragon/renegade was risky, but I think it worked perfectly for a game about someone thrown into a leadership role that they weren't prepared for. Balancing your behaviour between rational and emotional, trying to keep a level head. It's a solid 7/10 game that was just never capable of living up to the original trilogy.
This is why you dont use other people opinions to make up your own.
The game is very good. I appreciate people who see it for what it is and not what they wished it was
I think it's kind of a shame Andromeda gets compared to the entire original trilogy when it really feels like it was going to be the start of a new trilogy of games. I understand it, but if we looked at Andromeda as the Mass Effect 1 of a new set of games, then I think it would've had a better chance.
@@CircumSamurai I definitely wish it would have received a sequel or even story DLC.
I actually recently ran through this game after playing the legendary collection. I don't think it's as bad as people say it is. It's certainly inferior to the trilogy, but I had a good time with Andromeda as well.
I like Mass Effect Andromeda. The timbre of many weapons are solid, the combat is smooth, & the environments are gorgeous.
If we ignore the characters and majority of main story this was imo best in the series, gameplay, crafting system and the way you can mix and match abilities and combo them was just 5/5. Ryder family secret was interesting side story and left so many questions and vaults also had some interesting story behind them, even main story became interesting just before it ended. Oh and that asteroid H-047c was awesome zone/place.
Sucks that we will probably never see sequel for this because stuff started to get interesting near the end.
@@Winland88 If we ignore those factors, we're ignoring what makes Mass Effect. Andreomda was uch a lackluster game with wasted potential; it's insane to think that they even dared only give us a single new species in a game where we're meant to be exploring a new galaxy. We explore more new species in ME2 than we do in Andromeda.
@@Sytakz While true i am more practical person, i do like good stories but they are one of the least important part in RPG's for me personally. Gameplay, systems and good optimization always comes first for me as good story can't carry bad game at all, i started playing RPG's before i could even understand english(not native speaker)so i kinda got used to ignore the story part and focus more on the content itself.
@@Sytakz it takes place in a small cluster on the edge of the galaxy. How many alien races was really needed?
@@Winland88 What is the purpose of playing RPGs then, if not for the story and characters? All your points sounds like features that would matter to a FPS, not a singleplayer RPG
"It's not as good as one of the greatest gaming experiences in history. "
Sure, I'll give you that but on its own I still found it to be a very enjoyable game.
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I finished it yesterday and I enjoyed it. I'm a big fan of Original trilogy and I have been sceptical when I launched this game for the first time but then I was actually positively surprised. I can recommend this game :)
did you finished all planets to 100%? with all sidequests? when you loved it so much? 😂
I'm playing it now and love it more than I did in 2017. Tastes must certainly change over years.
I blame CZcams gamer channels who LOVED to HATE the faults so much that they stifled initial sales which was the reason that Bioware dropped it and we never got our DLC that we so wanted and the story arc needed. The combat and exploration were great.
okay clearly what I'm about to say is going to be an unpopular opinion but I really like the game and I honestly do not think it deserved the hat that it got did it have problems absolutely but it was still a good game
Played it a year after release so missed the bugs, ended up loving it. Beat it 3 times.
Only gripe: asari redesign, why…just why
I liked the game, too, but I played it after they fixed the facial animation. I’m noticing how bad they are in the video here. It’s also weird that the default Ryders look way worse than the characters I created, which is the opposite of the original trilogy.
I’m in several ME groups on social media and there was so much hate in there for this game simply because Ryder wasn’t Shepard.
Literally the only hate it deserved was the facial animations being busted. But that got fixed pretty quickly. It’s genuinely a fun game.
I enjoyed it too, I played it several times. I just missed Shepard and the old crew
This was the game that taught me not to preorder anymore. Literally haven't preordered a game since.
Same
I actually quite liked Andromeda. It had a lot of issues and never came close to the original trilogy but I didn't hate it. I never really felt like I had enough choice though. Really wanted to see the world react to my decisions but the only time I can remember that was giving some dude a base in the desert. It was a damn cool idea but just needed more choice and the characters needed to be slightly better written.
you liked that part where you got 6 planets with 5000 fetch quests and 10 enemy types?
Played this last year and I really enjoyed it. The trick is to not stay and clear an entire planet but to move along with the story, it'll tell where you need to go and when and bring you back to finish up naturally. The game really needs level suggestions for the quest list. Not for difficulty but for continuity. The second trick is to realize out of the box, that this isn't an evolution of ME3 but a direct evolution of ME1. Once you get Profile Switching down, the combat is really fun on the hardest difficulty. Taking away control of the party members away is something you'll get used to but never appreciate though.
nah i did planet by planet completing anything and everything that could be done before coming back.. The additional task quests were trash
@@KrGsMrNKusinagi0 It's certainly not for everyone. Glad you played it though! Those extra quests do culminate in a very thoughtful addition to the games ending.
Matty always bringing the 😆!
I always say I'm going to try and play this but I never seem to leave the first planet.
I actually just finished up andromeda last month, and I gotta say I truly enjoyed it. Like you said, the combat is extremely fun and satisfying and an excellent improvement on the trilogy. The issue in single player is the lack of enemy variety. Not surprising tho. The story is kinda generic at first but it for me picked up and became pretty interesting. The only characters I really liked was Drack, Suvi and my female rider. I made my own rider because I did not like biowares female rider. Definitely it’s writing and story are it’s weakest points, but it’s fun. Definitely so when you consider I did play the game after as many fixes as BioWare could muster, and the fact I only paid $7. Still, if you really love mass effect and haven’t played andromeda, wait for sale and play it. I have no regrets and may even play again in the future. Let me be clear, I never played mass effect until the legendary edition. Before that I laughed and dogged andromeda and even the original trilogy. But when the legendary edition was announced I got excited. I knew it was highly regarded and for good reason. I played the trilogy twice and I fucking loved ever second and will play it again. So I wanted more and played andromeda. I clearly have a different opinion of it now.
can you explain me what you liked about bland ryder? what are her character traits?
what makes her special?
I just played Andromeda last year and i really enjoyed it. Of course it can't compare to the original trilogy, but it was a very good game in its own right and actually very impressive when you consider it was pretty much made in less than 2 years. It had plenty of issues but I'm actually very disappointed we won't be getting a sequel to it. There was a ton of potential and a well done sequel and/or some good DLC could have saved it's reputation in hindsight.
No one's acknowledging the massive plot hole? 600 years ago, they were Golden Worlds. The Vaults are only 300 years old, but without the vaults, the Worlds are chaotic....... really? I mean, really???
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The story starting is perfect, I've researched a bit before making a series (and I still have the save to continue), and also in game for in-character knowledge.
The project was made between Mass Effect 2-3 timeline, when it was possible that the Reapers will pick the Milky Way clean of biological life again.
It's not widely advertised but could be put together from secret notes that it was put together quickly with unconventional resources (like Cerberus, and forbidden AI experiment on you) to possibly save the last of intelligent biological life and technological knowledge into another galaxy.
My first surprise (after getting a morning coffee and toilet) was that effectively I am the parent of a newborn, an AI which sees what I do all the time, learning from it.
Out-of-character I liked it a lot.
For most of the time I solved some problems with the game in-character - for example only I was talking about palinka (a strong, alcoholic drink from Mordor, especially törkölypálinka which is famously bad tourist trap), and there was an NPC with pathing problems beside where I've landed, so I ackowledged her as a consumer, like our stonefaced woman boss on the Nexus, which I knew was from hangover.
Yes in my mistranslated misadventures I enjoy altering translation. :P
So the main enemy boss quickly got a nickname "Keyringhead".
My main problem were:
-the unskippable animations while exploring the galaxy you've mentioned
-this galactic community was just a reskin of our home; money, pubs, police (for example faction favour point would interest me better than mere money, especially befriending the Enemy and getting controlled mutations)
-there was no real end to strive for, just when the evil one first escapes beaten and warns us of an even greater danger cliche
One of the things you liked was one of my disappointments. They abandoned any remaining pretense that this game is an RPG. It's just an action game now. I'm still chasing the feel of Mass Effect 1.....
Another is the skill tree. Sooooo weak. Should have been a lot more options. Needed more skills that focused on stat based improvements and conversation options. About 1/3 of the way through the game you are just dumping points "wherever".
I found this one so much more fun then ME1 was for me. But that could all be just the combat being that much more fun for me.
its more fun to not be able to use biotic powers on shielded and armored enemies unless its to strip their shields? ok LOL
Andromeda turned out to be my favourite game in the series. - The promo material put me off getting it at launch, so wasn't surprised at the backlash. When I did finally get it a couple of years ago; was pleasantly surprised it had that ME1 vibe.
For me, the game system has to work flawlessly. Playing on Insanity, I like to move with my party quickly through engagements. Everything else about an ME game comes second, and Andromeda doesn't disappoint.
Does anybody know what’s the background music that starts at 00:35? It sounds sooooo familiar
I love this game, I don't normally like to finish games because I don't want them to be over and I find something new before I've finished everything, but this is one of only two games that I enjoyed so much I've completed it multiple times. To be fair though,I never played the original trilogy until legendary edition
And probably that's why you love Andromeda. People hate the game because they expected something like original trilogy and didn't get it. Andromeda is a good game in general but it's bad Mass Effect game.
so you finished all side quest and maxed all planets? send pictures!
Love the game, played it twice. Not as good as the trilogy, naturally, but still awesome.
Awesome!
so its awesome to have loading screen 20x during random quest?
Im working through all the mass effects agian because they are my favorite games of all time. Should hit this one sometime next month. Im actually excited
So just a few points to cross off as I have a love-hate relationship with how I apparently come off when I give my opinion.
The lighthearted side could have worked if you had time to actually develop a rapport with the other people on your Ark. I don't really watch Marvel movies- but I would assume that the energy works better if those characters have some types of history to work with. Things like "that's your dad!" shouldn't be a line. It should have been Ryder getting pulled to the side, the pair of them talking about the mission, and there being some type of line that hints to the relationship. Simple lines like "I know you can do this," or "If it was anyone else I would be more skeptical," in the context of "You are going to lead this mission." for example. By being very direct, or for instance I believe that both Ryder and Cora are gossiping like 20 feet away from Ryder Snr. about how he acts is not only unprofessional in a workplace setting-- it was downright unbelievable. Those are the types of people that would not make the cut to an A Team like position for anything above the most low-maintenance type work. They would be the two characters that exist to give you a reason to shut it down-- think Joker and Kaiden in Mass Effect 1. You now can either build those characters like ME1 did as it was just a one-off type situation, or you can have them be background noise.
That ofc doesn't fix things like animation or 110% creating an interesting character, it's just the start. You can have a lighthearted character like Liam (by personality) but it should have been he made the cut because he was extremely good at what he did. I'm talking the trope of "Oh he's unprofessional as hell, but the guy can fix just about any machine/wound/emergency he gets his hands on." And then you have the makings for a good foundation to build a character. Why is he so jovial/sarcastic? If he's so good at (insert profession here), why did he leave it all behind to come here? And my favorite when I write any character-- "Why is he doing this?" which opens up moral questions for later on.
If Liam was a top-of-the-line Law Enforcer that had to leave after botching a major situation that became a stain on his department and came here to guide and protect people having his knowledge and experience-- I believe he would have been a great team member. Granted not every character has to be extremely deep with their 'why' question, and as a starting companion maybe it would have been too much. Though him simply stating "it's complicated" to explain later could be a good trade off from deeper complexity.
As for things like gameplay, I never really believe that specifically companion commands will work as well with Mass Effect as they would with Dragon Age. The simple reason being a class like the Vanguard where they are the epitome of "high risk, high reward" where their charge is a core part of their damage and sustain wrapped into one. Just as well, a lot of classes are designed to be particularly good at one thing, and very weak in others. While that is realistic (to a point) it is why I strongly believe there should be off-hand or secondary classes for companions and players. Basically where you have a handful of abilities you can switch over to which allow you a layer of survivability w/o compromising the difficulty altogether.
Example: being a Primary Class Engineer with strong hacking capabilities but those hacks not being able to just shut down biological units so much as make things take longer-- as such they have the Secondary Class of an Infiltrator where they are able to use solo-stealth to move to safety and once getting there, having access to something like trip-wire explosives or simple grenades to help with sub-par or every just weak weapon use.
Instead as of right now, Engineer was kind of memed on for awhile when in reality-- they have been able to completely control, if not just fully shut down practically any combat encounter. They're not as flashy as a biotic Vanguard, but they still have the high reward payoff w/o the major deficit of high risk.
Just my two cents of a few things. This is already way too long of a comment xD
I struggle finding ways to condense changes w/o offering reasons why I believe they are better in the long run. As it stands if I were in Andrew Wilsons shoes I would be heavily avoiding using "live services" so much then claiming that they are the backbone of their revenue as eventually it's going to fail miserably. Hell, Maxis is currently at risk of losing tons of their players to Paralives simply because Alex Massé & Paralives Studios puts more effort into their gameplay. EA could easily become a loved AND profitable publisher the likes of what Blizzard Entertainment was if they had new management.
Yo I really like Mass Effect Andromeda!! When it first launched it was buggy as hell but its a solid rpg imo. And when you consider that they actually made this game in less than a year, it's pretty awesome. Plus they had major issues because EA forced them to use the frostbite engine which supposedly was a major issue. Hopefully the next Mass Effect just uses UE5. I'm actually playing it right now. Just started a few days ago. This is like my 3rd playthrough. I guess I really like this game lol.
for me the only issue is the story the setting is superb but the execution is meh ,
I didn't get this right away but got it on sale a couple years later and it was still pretty fun by then. At least for me.
It's simple. Do you like CoD? If so you'll like Andromeda.
If you prefer RPGS... stay far far away from it.
My biggest gripe will always be that they rehashed and re-skinned Protheans and Collectors. Plus, when you get there, you're not actually making first contact. In my opinion, if they had the villains be the Angaarans, have Jaal join as a spy originally and then realise these new species aren't so bad and have to fight to be seen as equal and to find peace. OR if it was " we got to the promised land, but it's crumbling due to natural decay, how do we survive now", then you could have the Angaarans fighting for your equipment and your ships to be able to travel to the next galaxy in order to survive. That would have been amazing, and also it would make send for Ryder to be Pathfinder, in reality, MC would never keep the Pathfinder title, they may have the technology but they're untested and would be sidelined as an expert in their field, but they would NOT have sway. If it was life or death in the sense that the planets are dying and can't be saved at all, but you have to pathfind supplies, safe passage, etc, it would lend credence. I will never not be mad about wasted potential.
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I enjoyed andromeda, I didn't go into it expecting a deep story, the big story was already done in the og trilogy, but the gameplay & setting up places for people to move into on new planets was very exciting for me 😀
I still contend that if Andromeda didn't have the Mass Effect name it would not be remembered so poorly.
I feel like you used to do full re-reviews of games, but these are like re-first impressions. I understand that is a lot easier but it doesn’t capture the full picture as well.
I think the Ryder siblings are underrated. They feel like Mass Effect's version of Nathan Drake.
I remember pre ordering that game. Last time I ever pre ordered a game. Was a pretty good game in terms of gameplay, but the story was so painfully mediocre. The jet pack and advanced movement, as well as more freedom to mix and match abilities was really cool. I know it’s completely unrealistic, but if they remade the original games in the andromeda game engine, I would definitely pay a lotta money for that
Well that’s probably never going to happen because the originals were on the unreal engine and Andromeda was on Frosbite which probably why it’s glitches was bad because Frosbite was made for Battlefield and Battlefront but EA forced all their developers to use the Frosbite. I’m pretty sure the rumor now is the newer mass effect will return the unreal engine
Matty do you think you could do a giant retrospective on all the gears of war games I just recently started playing the 1st one and I'd love to hear your in depth thoughts on them all
Mass Effect Andromeda was my introduction into the mass effect world , Im currently playing the trilogy and am really enjoying it but Andromeda is still my favorite. Its sad how much hate it got because its so different to the trilogy.
I actually like Andromeda a good bit, it just didn't blow my mind the way a Mass Effect game should have.
The maybe upsetting thing is..from an idea perspective Andromeda had a lot going for it.
The Kett as a group we're actually really interesting, the religious element and the reasons as to why they do what they do.
Angara also had some interesting questions..
There's more but yea, it had a lot of potential, just didn't execute well enough.
7/10 for me.
Loved the combat in andromeda, definitely think it was the best in the series. I went full vanguard and only ever used guns on those giant worm robots and those floating shield guys.
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back when it came out a friend asked about it. I told him "If the original ME trilogy was the original Star Wars trilogy, Andromeda is The Phantom Menace." I stand by that.
The combat was definitely fun and planetary graphics were great, but the plot, characters, races, story was so definitely boring, lacking and did nothing for me.
Multiplayer was a lot of fun, mostly because it was entirely focused on combat. Which I find hilarious given this is Mass Effect. The series origin, jank/awkward combat that was acceptable because the plot, characters, story were so gripping. Now the best thing in a Mass Effect game was the part that stripped away all the Mass Effect.
Should have altered the origin story (why they left the Milky Way) and just given the game a fresh, new title with zero association to the original series. Might have been better received as it's own thing.
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What perfect timing. I went back to Cyberpunk recently and enjoyed it more, so I was wondering if I should give Andromeda another go, in the spirit of 2nd chances (the answer seems like resounding “no”, the dialogue hurts me, haha). Thanks for this!
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Man….I lowkey enjoy Andromeda.
The gameplay is really good
even though I loved 1/2/3 I think andromeda for me was better then the original. the story wasn't all that amazing like 1/2/3 but you have to realise me 1/2/3 was a whole big story inside of 3 FUCKIGN games. imagine if andromeda actually got a trilogy out of it? Would have been 10x better.
There’s a massive list of what’s wrong with this game, but the biggest for me is the fact that the personality of your Ryder is always BioWare’s version and never yours. Just ONE for instance is the fact that whenever anyone asks to join your team, your options are always between “Yes,” and “Hell yes.”
I firmly believe that the speech system for DA2 was hitting a very good sweet spot.. given the "chapter structure" of that game it was easier to track your overall dialogue choice and that influenced the basic personality Hawke had when you weren't choosing lines of dialogue.
Example:
if in the prologue you decided to be constantly "purple hawke" in the next chapter hawke's base lines with npc would be more quips/sarcastic driven instead of harsh or diplomatic..
And being baseline diplomatically/sarcastic/harsh could open specific resolutions to certain quests and encounters or even change the party banter a bit..
DA:I had a not bad dialogue system but the inki's personality was always a blank slate whenever it wasn't being directed by you
Mostly agree. The gameplay, IMO, is the best of the franchise. But the story and character are crap. So hard to continue the game when the story is just so meh.
This game had a chance at being something amazing and if they wernt rushed to push a game out and spent real time developing the characters and made the DLC, it could have been. The gameplay is solid and i actually like the 4 different dialog paths but the reason i think it didnt work as well is that ryder does have a personality its just not a compelling one. Hes not a leader like Shepard. If they ever continue the adronoma story, they should use the same method they did for dragon age and shift the MC perspective to a different character. As for the companions, the only ones i really like are Drack, Vetra, and jaal. Krogans are always great, Vetra is cool but needs to polished (for example, if you ramance her, it doesnt feel like she axtually likes ryder and is more like 'okay'). Jaal is cool but a little limp in his execution. Pheebe is a fun character and i think she matches Ryders energy well but she feels shoe horned on the team. Shes tries to be liara with her knowledge on the remnant but doesnt deliver the same professional energy. Cora is just dull 2d characters and i f*****g hate liam. Liams constant positivity for the initiative contradicts his own negativity for himself. He wants to contribute to colonization but is so annoying i skip past all his dialog.
In a way, ryder being pathfinder ruined his character. The game would have been better if we didnt try to fix the golden worlds but rather focus on killing the kett and helping the initiative along the way.
If we go back to adronoma, we should shift the MC to a soldier fighting the kett and finding new alien allies to fight with. Make the kett a larger threat. Make them compelling. Give us new aliens. Explore who the remnant were and who they were fighting and develop a greater enemy waiting to strike.
Andromeda has always been a weird one for me. Like personally I love the game but I agree with most of the flaws you said. I do feel like the main draw to Sheps trilogy is the relationships and crews and their contribution to it all. Which this game lacks. I don't think the main story is too bad but without a good supporting cast to back it up, it just felt a bit soulless
It's pretty cool that they tried to model the dads model after your character, didn't realise that on my only try with this game
Not being able to control your squad mates was one of the biggest gameplay fails for me.
You can tell them where to go and what to shoot at, which I used a lot. But more control and options would have been great.
@@xyhmo ya ya true. Not being able to use Squad powers for biotic detonation n what not was a big irk for me.. I play on insanity so I like to control what they are using. Also my squad mates died way to much. I had the revive trophy in like the first 30 mins of the game.
I just started playing for the first time I like it a lot. It’s pretty cool so much to do and the space exploration I love it. The remnant is really cool. I can understand the hate it got when it launched but as a new person to the series I love it
It seems like people hate this game because it's popular to hate it. It actually holds up really well and is a lot of fun.
The problem with andromeda is that, you don' t do that after a trilogy like mass effect. Andromeda is the inquisition of ME serie, but this time, people said no.
The dragon Age series is a good example of why. Every game is a different meal, in the same univers.
Dragon Age Origins was standalone, and was amazing, unique. Dragon Age 2 was really different from Origin, story, design, point of interest, mechanics, it was in the same univers but in the end the game was standalone. Inquisition was not very liked especially for the very grindy, mmo-esc side quests. But it has for it to have great graphics, interesting story, even tho different again.
All those games have characters in common that we want to learn more about, and our past decision influence the whole world, which is cool, but each game was a standalone gaming experience so the differences between Origins, II, and inquisition did not bother people that much, except those who could not get over Origins and kept a grudge for it.
But Mass effect was THREE games, we spend with the SAME hero and the same companions, experiencing fear, love, adventures, travels, friendship, courage, combats, life and death, with epic music, a continuous storyline, climax, opening, great vilains, crazy deep lore, and so on.
You don' t release a half baked inquisition after that. The facials animation were just the cherry on top, the last straw on the camel's back. No sir.
But Okey I brought it, I support Bioware, for now. But they better make something better next time or just start a new series, because otherwise I will never buy anything from them anymore.
Mass effect legendary was a good start.
I played the game in march and I really liked it, solid gameplay, good grapchics, the story is not the best but is interesting and I loved the characters, sure the choices you make dont matter and the open world is too big, but the game doesn't deserve all the hate. I genuinely want a Mass Effect Andromeda 2 rather than Mass Effect 4
Agreed they really needed to build the lore up for the Andromeda galaxy and a second one would've been perfect
All I can say is that I enjoyed it when it first came out and upon replaying it recently, I still found it enjoyable and that's all I ask for in a game. that I have a good time when I'm playing it.
I played this in 2021. I was doubtful bc of the rumors and negative reviews. But I was BLOWN AWAY by the gameplay! Holy hell, it was so fun!
And I didn't think the story and storytelling was as bad as I first thought.
I loved it!
I want to play it to make my OWN opinion about it so I have 1 question
on my PS4 I can't buy the ME:A game unless I have an EA Play account, which to get requires a debit/credit card to be synced to my account and NOT the Paypal I already have.
so my question- do you still need that sort of thing (EA Play and credit/debit card to pay instead of Paypal) for an XBox game, in this case mass effect andromeda, or no?
Andromeda is 11$ in the playstation store right now, and I've got no ea pass
Its a decent game, I have enjoyed it many times. Its no trilogy, but NOTHING can live up to that. Game was a solid 6.0 for me. Only thing i hated was the puzzles, gameplay felt crispy.
I actually like the humor personally I get some situations call to be more serious but the concept of exploration of a new galaxy even with all the bad starts within the story with the different arcs and the exiles and krogan it's important to keeps positive like making jokes. Also I like the "marvel energy" stuff in MCU and Andromeda. But next mass effect should keep the gameplay and leveling up system as well as customization.
I mean, I do like the energy just not for a Mass Effect game. Plus, the plots lack a lot of sense and undermines the humor, it shifts from being a good distraction from dark times and more toward hammering home the awkward and unbelievable plot pointed. It's fun if you don't think about it too much for me. But I am very glad some people do still like it.
@@KJW1967 don't get me wrong the story could've been a lot better as well as the characters.
I ended up playing it last summer with decent amount of Mods. It was fun, different than the other Mass effect titles, but fun. It definitely felt unfinished and left me feeling like if Bioware wasn't forced to switch to Frostbite midway through development, the game would've been a real gem. Hopefully there's a way to bring this story into the fold with the latest entry, because there was so much untapped potential in Andromeda.
I tried to play it, I really did but I play most of the Bioware Games because of the Companions, the characters. And there are more interesting NPCs in Baldur's Gate, than in ME:A. So, after something around 52 hours where I gave the game a chance. Where I several times collided with the game and I think completed the game to 1/3. I was literally bored and saw no reason to continue. And it makes me sad because I love the Mass Effect series, but if that would have been the first game in the series, I would never have touched the other games.
Mass Effect Andromeda’s worlds accomplished what Mass Effect 1 tried to be. It’s a shame it launched so bugged and the writing didn’t hold up. In many ways my favorite mass effect game
It shows they tried to mimic the plot of Mass Effect 1 but with gameplay mechanisms they could only dream of 15 years ago. Unfortunalty, the story and characters fall short, meanwhile the original games being lacking in terms of visual quality, the plot made up for it.
The Kett and Archon feel like they tried to copy Saren and the Reapers, and the final part with the Remnant city and Meridian is like the race towards Ilos and the Conduit to the Citadel, but feel extremely generic (though the part about the origins of the Angaran was great) even on their own. Saren had motivations and Reapers were intimidating, but Archon is evil for the sake of being evil and who even cares about the Kett outside the cluster, when we've wrecked the Kett the whole game. With the Reapers, they were hinted to be this ultimate, indestructible form that finally took an entire fleet to be taken down.
I think it's somewhat unfair to compare Andromeda to the entirety of the trilogy before it, as people seem to love to do. Andromeda really does give those Mass Effect 1 vibes, for better or for worse, where it feels like the start of a series of games. Had DLC expansions &/or sequels been made, I think an Andromeda series could've been great. A single game trying to start a new chapter shouldn't be fully compared to 3 other games with all their DLC's all lumped together at once.
And after playing through the trilogy with LE, I can really see just how many fans happily wear rose tinted goggles when it comes to Mass Effect. The games are really good don't get me wrong, but they are plagued with many of the same or similar graphical, animation, AI, etc. issues that people gave Andromeda hell for. That doesn't excuse Andromeda for having those issues or the state it originally released in, but they've patched many of these issues out & aside from somewhat weaker story/characters it's a fine game.
So I have a slightly different take. My first dive into the world of Mass Effect was Andromeda. I also played it after all bug fixes were done so I didn’t see the terrible bugs at their peak. I don’t mind Marvel-type humor and it just didn’t bother me here in Andromeda. Matty is right, the gameplay is top-freaking-notch. I mean that alone is what drew me in.
Fast-forward to today. Mass Effect Legendary Edition came out so of course I tried it. Characters and story deep and AMAZING. However, a big drawback initially was the combat since I was coming from Andromeda; I’m like, WTF, u can’t jump. Totally threw me off.🤣
There is no doubt that the trilogy is better overall. I loved Shepard and everyone along for the ride. But I guess I have a bit of a softer heart for Andromeda because I started there first and the space-opera vibe was still there and something I hadn’t experienced yet. Again, trilogy is hands down better and a masterpiece, but Andromeda is a good game for what it did bring to the table with roughly only a year and a half of development.
I feel like if Andromeda wasn't underneath the mass effect mantle, it would've been such good game - aside from the initial bugs. It's such a great concept with amazing gameplay, but it was made out to be worse than it actually was because of how legendary the original trilogy was.