VFX Artists React to Bad & Great CGi 84 (ft. Tim Miller)
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01:21: Sonic the Hedgehog
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Yo if you guys have yet to use the their trial for their website, do it NOW. This episode is almost an hour long and uncensored which makes it so much cooler! (I didn't even start this video so idk if they mention that or not but seriously do it!!!)
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When it is really bad,(like the slapstick cartoon noises in Jurassic park, when the guy slips in the delophosaurus pen) they mention it, but I love Foley and agree. Would make a great episode
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it’s so cool that this series got so big, they can get people like Tim Miller on the show.
From his background, my first thought when seeing his name was "well, ofcourse he's the kinda guy that would come on".
Still, doubt he'd show up any rando's couch..
Tim is an absolute legend. Glad he finally made it on the show.
You mean the guy who killed John Connor? And the whole Terminator franchise?
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@@igretrovods9189 No that was Warner Bro's. Good ol' WB shootin themselves in the foot like always.
That little smirk when he mentions the leaked test footage. Amazing
Everyone in the industry knows who did it, but no one will say. It's kind of funny.
@@captainfunktastic2255 whoever leaked it, did a good job.
@@captainfunktastic2255 i don't know, please tell me
@@sparra98 his name rhymes with Myan Meynolds
@@JustKrin 😂😂ty
Tim is so down to earth, seeing him point out his Ghost in the Shell reference with the same excitement any of us wouldve at 15, with our After Effects projects, is so great.
haha such a cool moment! I saw the shot and thought "wait a sec, thats from GitS!!" and bam, 1 sec later he openly proudly says he did a homeage right there... so cool haha
Its so nice when a fellow nerd does well in the industry and can gift us this little moments.
I grew so much respect watching him in this he’s adorably relatable
The SONIC fiasco was insane yet subsequently one of the sickest comeback stories ever.
Props to the artist going "Already fixing it Tim"
Props to Tim miller for just doing anything in service of the movie. It takes a real solid sense of character to get down and beg, so much love!
This was the exact moment i wanted to get down in the comment section to write something positive about this guy. Massive sympathy for him!
Yeah, but then you help fucking up the probably last time icons are in the same film together and you fuck up the film and piss of the fans, falling them misogynists for not liking Arnold being pushed to the side and switching J.Connor for a tiny latina.
@@4Everlast James Cameron was a part of it. Wrote the film as well, and it's the death of J.Connor. He even defend it because it's his idea.
@@DanPlotMix Not really. He pitched a few ideas, that's all, of course the only good ones, like explanation why Arnold's old in this one, the skin=silicon ages the metal skeleton doesn't. Cameron is a master.
He was promoting it cause he thought Tim knew what he was doing, he didn't care cause after this one the wrights for the film were going back to him, and he got payed for contributing, it's a win-win situation for Cameron.
I haven't heard him defend the death of J.Connor yet. His death underminds T2, and if you're replacing a character, replace it with a better one, not a worse one.
@@4Everlast He admitted during filming Avatar 2 and 3 that it was his idea because "Let's just pull the carpet out from underneath all of our assumptions of what a Terminator movie is going to be about. Let's put a bullet in his head at a pizzeria in the first 45 seconds." Dark Fate as the "canon" sequel to T2 to him. He also praised Terminator Genisys for the twist of John Connor being the bad guy because he likes to sway people's expectations. He even lied in Comic Con about Edward Furlong coming back as John Connor, but it's just CGI rip of him from T2. Even Furlong himself was upset that they smoked him, he had no involvement.
Did like the aging T-800 idea. Even though it was used in Genisys that he's not involved. But tbh, Dark Fate did the concept and character better. Even when the film was meh entirely. He only sees this franchise as Sarah Connor trilogy, and it's never about John entirely as he put in T2.
I love the awkwardness Wren and Niko go through when they got called out for crapping on Sonic like the rest of us lol
Just facts, honestly
Yah but maybe without doing that they never would of blown up and have Tim as a guest
@@Mario-vl7un
I don’t think their success hinged on crapping on Sonic.
I believe it’s a meticulously crafted channel with a lot of chaos energy and aspirational expertise. That mix brought them their viewership count.
This dude is the GOAT when it comes to VFX. The Batman vs Deathstroke fight he did for Arkham Origins is 1 of my favorites and still holds up extremely well.
Halo 2 Anniversary, nuff said
Wow he did that shit? That was dope as fuck 🔥
the GOAT? Have you seen Terminator Dark Fate. He's a goddamn douche.
@@auwalismailsulaiman605 Yup. He also did that sick DC Universe Online Cinematic Intro
@@RandomBlackGamer 🤯🤯🤯
Crazy to see from the very first episode of VFX react, Tim was always kind of there influencing and now he's freakin on the couch!
That leaves some hopes for one day seeing Jackie Chan on the couch. ;)
@@Ugly_German_Truths With Jackie Chans aspirations to join the Chinese Communist Party i don't think he will be allowed to travel to enemy territory.
Still waiting on Jackie Chan for stunt men react...a guy can dream!
It’s sad that he had so many people that didn’t believe him until they saw it come to life and the film did amazing. He literally overcame adversity, the story behind Deadpool needs it’s own movie tbh.
How many amazing films have we missed out on cause the suits are oblivious. Smh
Another thing is that I'm glad they kept the guys from the test footage, Tim, Rhett, Paul and obviously Ryan. Even though they still fucked them with the budget later on
That’s the case with many directors, even big ones like Tarantino. Most of them had to fight really hard to get what they wanted, until one person half believed in them and they blew it out of the water.
Imagine all the potentially incredible movies that passionate directors never make because some corporate suit says no.
@@TheWayBesst TBF, that's the case for most companies. Corpo scum executives are all talentless sociopaths chasing money and power. They are people that need to be heavily medicated and away from any management or power positions, and especially away from money.
The real talent and success comes from artists that chase a perfect product, but when they are constantly abused, underpaid, under heavy budget and time constraints, they can almost never innovate.
Steve Jobs did that to most of has engineers and was only lucky through his success becasue he actually paid the design team a huge amount of money more than any other company, and gave them full creative freedom. He literally bought his way to success by making innovation profitable, just by paying the right people a fair amount of money.
Imagine what Apple could have done without an asshole like Jobs at the helm, and without the greedy scum that took over during the time Jobs wasn't at Apple.
Big respect to Tim Miller for accepting that some of his work isn’t perfect. It takes real humility to accept criticism as well as praise.
the fact that Tim made a Ghost in the Shell reference and pointed it out with nerd enthusiasm. Makes me weep with joy.
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@@stacyfearlicia This video dude.
I met Tim Miller in the early - mid 90s while I was in film school. I read an article about Blur, that it was pretty much by itself using 3D Studio MAX - ON WINDOWS PCs! - for its work, so I decided to interview them for the school paper. I got to talk to all the principals, including Tim for about an hour. Tim had been using the DOS-based 3D Studio (prior to Autodesk releasing 3D Studio MAX through it's now defunct Kinetix subsidiary - also the creepy dancing baby used to promote its character animation plugin, Biped) for his work, which included this AMAZING and photoreal animation of a whale slowly cruising by. Tim was really low-key and generous with his time and thoughts about computer animation VFX and the film biz. At the time, that quality of work was unheard of from anywhere but the highest end facilities and schools, certainly NOT from a DOS system. Tim, Blur and the rest of the crew working there were trailblazers for all the PC CGI creators out there trying to get noticed beyond Mac users with Silicon Graphics monitors on their desks (and the folks with SGI boxes UNDER the desk too).
Tim saying that being a director is all about getting the shot is just the right reason to be a director, and the fact he says there is a dignity line that he wouldn’t cross to get a shot but he just hasn’t found it yet just shows his dedication to his craft!
Real props to Jeff Fowler for how he handled the Sonic situation. That took a lot of courage, but jumping on things that early and processing it so positively probably gave you the time and goodwill you needed to make sonic v2 so great. Kudos to Jeff and Kudos to Tim and the team for working together on that situation.
Guys if you haven’t seen the extended version I promise this is not an ad but it is so worth it. Tim Miller provides so much knowledge of the industry in this episode it insane. He answers some of the most minute questions that anyone whose never worked on a hollywood set has wanted to know. Truly inspiring and shout to Nico and Wren for asking all the right questions. Get the trial and watch this episode its a must.
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This actually makes me want to subscribe to that how much is it
Props to Tim for being so open and sharing, and being honest about the good and the bad.
Mad respect for the corridor crew, these guys deserve all the recognition they have now.
They are sellout shills lol.
It's so crazy to me that y'all went from corridor crew on a couch talking VFX over movie scenes, to revisiting those same scenes years later with the directors and staff who actually made them. So cool.
Tim might be the coolest guest so far. He's so down to earth about every little thing. It's easy to forget that he can rundown the entire technical pipeline on a whim when he's chillin on a couch in his rubber slippers.
It's so damn cool that you guys have gone from just three smalltime VFX artists to legit stunt and film professionals do even actual goddamn directors and actors in these past few years! Definitely one of the best channels out here today.
One of the best character developments i've ever seen
I love that you guys have built enough street cred to get people like Tim Miller to come sit down and vibe with you for a solid 2 hours.
I remember when that Deadpool test footage leaked, and the whole internet blew up. We all wanted this movie, and it's great that it got to happen. I honestly didn't know this was his first directing credit, either. What a great job by everyone involved.
I'm consistently shocked by how genuinely cool a lot of these big VFX artists are. Tim seems like a really chill dude
just wanted to point out, Blur studios have done a *ton* for the animation scene in gaming; Halo 2A, MW2019, LoL, Valorant, Skyrim, and a ton of others that you'd have to look at yourself. these guys are actually insane lol
The *last agni kai fight from ATLA* would be perfect for for the Animators React. It's so stunning!
For the VFX series you gotta react to *Aslan from the Chronicles of Narnia!* Also at the end of second one there's a big water creature, so it might be cool to see what you think about that. Maybe also, Max Schneider's Gibberish music video, the editing kinda breaks my brain there.
And for stuntmen react It would be cool to see you react to the duel from "Potop", it's really good sword fight (tho technically it's sabers i think)
Ah nice, you used Animators instead of VFX this time.
Yes! Yes! Yes! Aslan is great CGI, even though it’s been over a decade since the Narnia movies!
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I second the last agni kai, literally the most beautiful animation I've ever seen
This is the first time I'm hearing that Jeff himself was responsible for ugly sonic. I get that he's the director, but it was never clear who started it. So much respect and admiration for him actually acknowledging a mistake was made and making the call to get it fixed. To the point where movie sonic turned out absolutely incredible, and it's now a flourishing new film series. Hope that Tim continues involvement as a producer going forward as well, he's clearly a master in the craft.
I don't buy it was JEFF for a minute. He knows Sonic, he worked on Shadow the Hedgehog. I think that was the studio's blunder. Maybe Tim is covering, maybe it's an NDA, but I'll never believe Jeff was the one responsible for it.
@@TheRibottoStudiosI think it is, since he IS the director and wanted a realistic take with sonic, so he definetely had some responsibility.
Guys this was the best episode ever. Giving so much details and info not just about the technical side of making these amazing scenes, also about how to run time, budget and work morale were amazing and thank you agina so much guys for creating these episodes and sharing it with us to be inspired and more informed about what we do and will do as artists. You guys are the best in Corridor. I watched both on here and your website, It was so much fun and great
This series should never stop. Industry professionals giving great insight into the craft is so interesting and cool to know. Its just amazing.
This is one of the best episodes of VFX artist react ever made, Tim Miller is such a talented dude. Great job interacting with him Niko + Wren 🙌
he is? Then why did he make the worst Terminator movie? One of the worst box office bombs of all time that tanked his career.
@@purefoldnz3070 I wouldn’t say 275million is a box office bomb. Dark Fate definitely ranks higher than T3, Salvation and Genisys IMO, it’s not perfect by any means but has some really engaging set pieces. Plus having James Cameron involved gives it a +1 in my books
@@jonsimo Dark Fate faces losses of $120 million-plus for partners Skydance Media, Paramount Pictures and 20th Century Fox. Its a box-office BOMB. Its a fucking disaster that sunk Tim's career and any further Terminator film. Its a fucking disaster. Even Cameron hates the damn thing.
@@jonsimo In order of terrible Terminator sequels Dark Fate is at the bottom. They made the T800 a drapes salesmen that drinks corona beer and sleeps with his girlfriend. That bed must be made of strengthened titanium lol.
So nice to have a director on the show!! You guys talk about the challenges of being a director and stuff so it was great to hear some first hand experiences!
Thank you SO much for getting Tim to join you on the couch and review Blur's work. I LOVE the stuff they've done and even had a chance to meet Tim in person. Fantastic studio with awesome work!
I'll always love Blur for the work they did on Halo 2 Anniversary, those cutscenes were incredible and close to what I had always hoped to see on a Halo title.
i was searching for this comment. the cutscenes from blur were absolute masterpieces. so gorgeous. i just wish they could give the same treatment to the other halo titles. i'd much rather that than the monstrosity that was the halo tv show
I always love Blur because of how revolution their music is the best band in th... wait...
We've really come full circle from episode 1 of artist react haven't we
Tim Miller is an absolute delight! I love his sense of humour!
Interesting little behind the scenes info:
The animator that did the absolutely fantastic shot at 15:04, is the same artist that did the jump at 13:06 that they dunk on.
The animator is in fact one of the best I've ever worked with, and Tim Miller's explanation is pretty on point. Time constraints and camera/plate limitations come into play, and at the end of the day the shot needs to get done.
I think any professional creative can relate. I've grimaced about delivering bad UX work while simultaneously being proud of hitting my deadlines. Thanks for sharing this tidbit.
An amazing episode! And it's amazing because you guys were able to get a director of some big action and VFX movies on here. Tim's analysis, insight, and stories were so cool. He reminded us that directors have to deal with many challenges. Of course they want to make the best movies and get the best shots. But the shot may not be the best because of time, budget, or studio constraints. Just want to thank Tim and Corridor Crew for giving us this episode.
i love this series and learn so much, finding more and more impressive people behind the scenes, I adore the evolution and guests, definitely a worthwhile channel and site!
This is honestly one of the best episodes of VFXAR. You can tell Tim LOVES talking about his work, he's a total geek about it. He has to be one of my favorites of the guests you guys had on the show!
My god! So much respect to this man! Love all the behind-the-scenes talk. It really entertaining and informative.
I don´t know if you already talked about it, but as industry insiders could you maybe make a video were you talk about the sometimes very difficult working conditions in the VFX-industry? You could interview VFX-supervisors and -artists, talk about crunch, why so many VFX-studios shut down or move around to get tax-subsidies and what that does to the artists. I just watched the Royal Ocean Film Society´s video about the problems in your field and i would really like to hear your perspective.
the pandemic has made things even worse. now companies are willing to work remotely, hiring artists all over the world who are willing to do work for studios at a fraction of the price, driving wages down at a time when wages need to be going way up (due to inflation)
This is one of the best episodes to date, Tim is so experienced and knowledgeable, I love this one
As a long time sonic fan who was there when the first sonic movie trailer dropped (though i didn't comment on it online), I just wanna thank you Tim and your team, the redesign really helped us fans feel heard and it made the movie a lot more special to many of us.
easily best episode of all for me. super cool dude, and also you have gotten really pro when it comes to doing this. It's been a long time now but it still feels like this whole vfx artist reacting is a new thing!
I LOVE that this series is now to the point that the directors of the movies you look at drop by. It's so awesome
Good episode as always you guys! ya gotta have Tim back, He's a huge pleasure to listen to and I like how alive he is when telling stories
Thank you CC. This insight makes me appreciate the movies even more and makes me curious about some other movies that i forgot or didn't have more interest in. Fantastic work guys.
I think he's my favorite guest. I just love his approach to film and EVERYTHING around it and his energy. I think THIS is the episode I HAVE to check out the website for.
The Dr Pretorius Experiment scene with miniature people in Bride of Frankenstein (1935) looks absurdly good. Please review that one!
Just saw that in the theater. That film was wild lmao
Ayoo this is actually nuts, I saw the Instagram post and just lost my mind waiting for this video
Man! What a great episode!
I love to see the behind the scenes of how they make movies.
I think it all started waaaaay back when I was a child in the 90s when Discovery Kids was a just beginning as a channel, they had a show precisely about this and what has stuck more from it it's when they explained how the special effects were done in Jumanji.
I was sooo fascinated by it! My child brain couldn't process how they made something look so real...back then, and things have advanced, and still can't process it fully, I love it so much!
P. D. If somebody remembers the name of the show, please tell me!
I am continuously amazed at the CGI effects in 'Dark Fate', especially learning about the opening scene, CGI Grace, older Arnold having a 100% CGI head in so many of the action scenes, and now learning that a lot of the backgrounds in the car factory were digital. Mind-blowing stuff.
see, right there. Thats the entire problem with ppl bashing CGI, we wont get tired of saying, "you bash CGI.. when you can spot it" and thats like 10% of the actual times where theres CG involved... you ppl have NO clue how much VFX is right now on EVERYTHING (Im Compositing Lead and worked on a bunch of Marvel movies and GoT) so the entire reason for this channel to exist, is for that moment where Tim says "you just dont have time for it"... if Studios would respect VFX times, and directors would be as into the technicalities as Tim is, this channel wouldnt even exist, or it would be called "praising VFX"
VFX Artists React has become a go-to reference for me, anytime I want to learn or remember or try anything with a video camera, because of episodes like this. You guys keep inspiring this middle-aged nobody toward becoming a creator. Thanks.
This guy is so cool he’s just like some dad that makes comic book movies
Wow this is such a great platform to fall deeper in love with these directors!!
Wow, great episode! Tim Miller was awesome. Love hearing behind the scenes view of filmmaking
I've learned so much from this short video... Definitely going to watch the hour long version 💜
Tim seems like such a cool guy in all his behind the scenes talks glad to see that carried over.
This channel has come so far and is doing such cool stuff! You love to see it
This is my favorite episode yet. Amazing! if you guys havent recored the next episode with him PLEASE ask him about The Goon movie. I love that comic and the proof of concept video they made was amazing. I hope that comes out one day.
Such a great episode. Loving these household names in the industry giving some insight.
tim miller's deadpool experience show how much he stands up for his work and how proud/confident he is. he does not write to appeal to the higher-ups at FOX, but understands from an audience's perspective instead (as shown in the deadpool clip showing the audience laughing at the iconic line). can't wait to see more from him!
Unfortunate he did not stand up for his work on Terminator (...)
This guy is SO rad, what a career resume he has, too. Loved this episode!
Tim Miller is one of my favorite directors ever. i could listen to him telling stories all day
Tim "I hate talking about this sh*t" Miller is such a legend. Great episode guys.
Tim is a gem. I can listen to him for hours.
VFX Artists React is the best thing on CZcams. No doubt. Always so happy to see a new episode in the queue.
love his candid, no bs attitude!
I can’t wait for that episode with Tim about the game cinematics! I really hope they cover Blur’s work on cutscenes for Halo 2 in the Master Chief Collection!
Blur studios have been freaking goats in the gaming industry for years! Can’t believe you got Tim Miller on, so rad
Dang, Tim Miller seems like a really down to earth decent fellow. I think it's really cool of him to come on your show even when your show may have highlighted some of the flaws of some of his projwcts in the past, and cool of you guys to have him on instead of being uncomfortable due to that fact, lol. Another wonderful episodes, fam! 🙂👍
Frickin' AMAZING that you got Tim Miller!
I’m glad to finally here some truth on the sonic design, when I saw movies like yogi bear after Alvin and the chipmunks my brain had become adjusted to this cgi animal design, the sonic design was similar in nature but to Tim’s own words it’s part of a very much ongoing brand and we have 3d animations of him in games that our minds reference when we think about him
Also, with the upcoming Mario movie I think it’s interesting to consider what if sonic would have been better fully animated, it would have been a big undertaking but it’s what I first thought of when I thought “sonic movie”, I couldn’t have done with out Jim Carrey thou, I like egg man as a fun man and not a plain cynical guy who pisses on the moon
Thank you for doing this episode with a more positive light on Dark Fate. I really like the movie, it's got a lot of cool stuff, but all I see is people dumping on it.
And it's really cool to hear the behind the scenes of Sonic and Deadpool origins.
I really wanted this video to go on forever!
Yeah... I think its probably time I check out the website considering I love just putting these videos on the side every weekend in the morning to wake up to, and end up watching them over again that afternoon cause I usually fall asleep lol. Knowing there's even more I can sink into is pretty irresistible.
This dude directed the absolutely incredible Batman vs. Deathstroke cutscene from Arkham Origins. He is a freaking legend.
I love that Tim Miller has made enough of a name for himself and is big enough to be on VFX Artists React
My favorite thing about this show is the crazy insites you wouldn't hear if this wasn't made. Being able to share a story to someone that one of directors for a movie had to literally get down on his hands and knees to beg people to help him for a shot is amazing!
7:37 How do they even pull that off! That was so smooth! Stuntmen are something else
OMG! I’m so happy for you guys and this channel for having made it this far!
My suggestion for VFX Artists React is a “CGI Animals” Episode! Featuring the best CGI animals: Aslan from Narnia, Jungle Book (which you guys already did), and the Toruk and others from Avatar!
Also, some of the worst: the new Lion King and Cats (which you guy also already did).
Edit: I would love to see the one hour video, I got so hyped! But sadly I’m poor. So all I can give you guys are likes.
*i love how blunt he is..*
*Not afraid to be honest*
*As he shares his experience*
Blur is my favourite animation studio, they do such amazing work
As a corridor crew subscriber, it is 100% worth seeing the extended cuts that don't get put out here. I highly suggest you do the free trial and see for yourself. Thanks to all at the corridor channel for such fascinating content!
This episode was amazing. The director you brought in was really personable and his scenes were cool too!
You cut so much out. The extended cut this week was truly awesome.
wow, how long was the original one?
@@nightspicer 55 mins
@@vickie_g wow that's a lot
ah my bad, it's said 1 minute in 😂😂
Congrats on VFX React getting so big, guys!!
Tim's a great guest, and I'm happy we're getting more of him! :D
The articulated eyes (only whites, with no retinas) were made in the Legacy of Kain series - animators had to come up with as much "facial" expressions for Raziel as they could, considering he was missing his retinas and his lower jaw.
yo, I remember watching that CGI concept on youtube before Deadpool came out. I watched it like 100 times.
Very intriguing episode. This man has done some amazing work!
This was fucking amazing! This right here was the sole reason I signed up for the trial on the website. 15 minutes wasn't enough I needed the whole thing!
I remember when they released the test for Deadpool and I showed it to a friend. He refused to believe they were making it a movie saying how impossible it would be because of the 4th wall breaks and it needing the R rating. I still won't let him live it down.
All these years later, and Tim is still "I wonder how that Deadpool test footage got leaked and jump started an entire sub-genre of superhero action movies and basically my very lucrative career. I guess we'll never, ever, _ever_ know who the leak was."
It was Denzel Washington. Trust me.
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"Usually I'm right sometimes I'm wrong" that is such great self reflection. To be able to say this and still stick to your guns like this guy does when he's fighting for his vision is amazing.
Great episode with Tim Miller. Would love to watch full episodes when I can.
I know nothing about VFX but I want to work for Tim. Love his energy and directness along with his ability to improvise.
More please.
Can you please stunt react to the Bike-Truck-Bike chase scene from Terminator 2? Apart from the obvious use of stunt doubles in wigs (which is more obvious when watching it in 4k), I think it is a superb chase scene.
Man just came from the App, had to give a like and comment here.
What a fucking episode. Best one yet! Tim is amazing, man you guys must have had a blast!
That was a really good promotion for your subscription. I might have to check that free trial once the second episode with Tim Miller is out.