Explaining Mechanics: Concealment - Part 2
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2019
- How can you improve your concealment using bushes and trees? How much of a bonus do these objects add to the concealment of your vehicle? How do you shoot and not get spotted? Find answers to these questions and more in the new episode of Explaining Mechanics. Enjoy!
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"You can be immediately hit by a shell from a conservationist."
And
"If you see a tree falling. Shoot there to test that woodcutter."
Really killed me 🤣.
:)
the conservationist part actually made me lol :)
I guess you weren't hiding behind enough bushes :P
@@Kevin_DM by killed I meant it made me laugh.
@@hanifloka130 whoosh
Everyone can master the spotting mechanics in a single video, thanks for the tutorial
Ye if you understand english...
@@sgt.kamarov7536 with their accent even if you understand english it's hard
@@madysalty5294 not really.
The English spoken is good to understand
@@eclypse5081 english not being my mother language, when people have an strong accent i can't understand them
@@madysalty5294 English is not my first language either
This is what i learned (by my self) in the hard way like about 5 or 6 years ago WG
N O S T A L G I A
same here, LOL
same, but I have shorter time to find it, about only 1 years in game i guess
I Didnt meant how long did it took for me to figure this out, but when...
It's like the way you feel the game :D
if u watch all videos and news for update u will be fine
Thank you for marathon! And your explained mechanics videos are very good. Great job!
Most important thing was the hitboxes of the bushes / how they look like and that there are only two coeficients
25 and 50 and it only goes up to 80
great job! Might make my own take on that topic too!
0:56 When enemy has 8 arty for each team
Once I was in battle with 14 arty in each team.I was on isu152,enemy was Maus
That was the greatest helpful video i see in 5 years playing
Please more video like this
Now you will know what to do next time you see a nice thick bush.
Ohhhhhhhh myyyy!
*THICC BUSH*
Good video. Now make the game more similar to Wows (lower maint cost, no ammo cost, lesser penalties on crew retraining). In this series I would like to see general tips on how to play a specific role or map analysis
I WAITED A LONG LONG TIME FOR THAT
New episode of “maps” please all map
Thank you for the M10 event! I finally can complete it! Gg!
Good luck for the completion of the event then and have fun with this Tank destroyer !
@@Tesla4-v5p it's a step in the right direction. F2p players thank you for it.
Thanks,Wargaming,for this video and recent updates.That is what we wanted and i am glad that you respect your community!
Ye it was needed, the game's ONLY 8 years old...
IMO a perk guide going over how each perk impacts stats and show it like that did for designated target would be a very nice benefit for new players
This is what we like.
Great Video!
The first one, that really gets this complicated topic right and also covers all details. Keep it up. You are on a good way in the last time!
Do a video on the normal distribution of rng as in accuracy, damage and penetration
Probably state the chances of these randomly generated values are based on a standard distribution (I remember reading it somewhere)
So that people cannot blame RNG all the time :)
In my opinion the +-25% RNG has a greater density on the middle and a very low density on the extremes, like a Gaussian curve
Nope but missing fully aimed shots is probably the dumbest mechanic of all time and is what killed off franchises like COD and battlefield (more players and larger budget) then this game
FINALY I waited for this a long time
thx Wargaming
It has been in the wiki since 2011
YEESSSS! This is what i waited idk how long!!
This video is actually amazing. Thanks!
Really well done on defining what works and what doesn't work for the camouflage of bushes. I didn't know a fallen tree in a bush ciunted as extra, or that they had varying levels of effectiveness.
Nicely done!
Played since 2012 and still learned something from this video. Thanks!
Very good video! Thank you!
Nice information! thanks
Well done explaining WG, good work.
You mean like they did in the wiki they mmade 6 years ago ?
Thank you for this video .
I've been waiting for this for a long time
Good good, now lets wait for the next episode
Wow that's very helpful also I love how you explain it
very good information!
This is a really important video, after 7 years of playing, i was almost sure about all of this, but after see the numbers...im even more, GREAT help for new players and tomatos :)
Thank you very much 🙏
Ngl this was a very good informative video, keep it up guys!
Thank you very much.
Well explained 👍
great video, it's very useful :)
Thanks for the link, Tragic!
Nice video
About time for mechanics videos.. Only 8 years
This video is a SAVIOUR
this is something what i wanted to know thx
We are happy that you can use this tutorial! What is your favorite class of tanks?
//Kayi4ek
Thanks!😇
the fallen trees concealment is the coolest for me who play TDs. now I can set up my hidden place on my own.
Very good video. Can the next video be on HE shell mechanics?
I Love THIS Game!
I've been specifically wondering about if height is measured in the 50m proximity (I've leaned both ways), and what actually happens to bushes when firing (I thought a tank with e.g. 5% camo when firing also only got 5% of the bush camo, so if it was a 50 bush, you'd end up with 7.5%, or something like that). Excellent video!
Brilliant , thanks for all the efforts u are putting to the game , I have been playing this game since the Beta (Still didnt put any cash into it sry xd ) and i like all these changes you are implementing into WoT . Anyways I just want to say continue like this and nevermind the haters cuz they will always hate , it doesn't matter what you do haha .
These tips vids by WG is extremely useful and might come back playing this when I have a new PC.Question tho,does the mechanics apply to Blitz?
Props to WG, the quality of these instructional videos is top notch!
The music used in these clips is superb too (I absolutely love the track at 8:31), however I can't seem to find any info about it in the description.
Were these tracks produced by Andrius Klimka and Andrey Kulik or someone else? Is there anywhere I could listen to the soundtracks used in these videos?
I can see Raspberet and Kayi4ek lurking in the comment section, maybe you guys could help me out? :D
Cheers!
I would like it if you guys explained crew members, using same crew members for gold tanks etc.
The media-marketing team has a perfectly subtle sense of humor: If you can make tanks funny then means you're talented lol! I downloaded WoT after a targeted ad personifying Tanks as a "game of cat and mouse" in a satirical narrated like BBC or Discovery channel Blue Planet format. I think this is the first game or service I've downloaded/purchased from an ad in over 3 years.
So if I am hiding in a bush, not moving or shooting, and a teammate next to me shoots within 15 m of said bush, does the camo boost of the bush disappear for me as well?
Now you only have to make the visuals of the bushes be in line with the mechanics of them. So what looks like a dense bush doesn't have 'vision gaps'.
Nice now I know what to do to not spot easily THANK YOU
Thought there was something more to it. Could use those schedules, actually.
Since a lot of people are expressing hatred on artillery, I think it would be much appreciated from their side, to see some material in how to deal with arty in play.
Another thing, I could wish for, was the whole problem with trolls. Dealing with that. Being pushed, what to do, (my suggestion, would be to have a few positions to use, so in case a troll is pushing one out, you can leave the position to the troll, maybe go backwards in the troll, leave the position to him, rapport him for unsportsmanlike conduct, and find another position) or if the trolling is in teamdamage, (hold the fire against those trolls, in spite how intensively they ask for it, still not to shoot at them, but in stead again, rapport them)
For the next episode can you tell us the different camo values of bushes
Love how game is over 10 years old but only now it gets properly spoting mechanic tutorial xd
helpful
Are you guys working on the broken bushes? Many locations in different maps have bushes that don't work properly, and you seem to be always detected as you peek behind them. Seems like they have "holes" below them (i.e. bushes on top of ridge lines) and no matter the tank you use, it's as if they are not even there.
Just one question. Let's take a small tank, for example BC-12 t, you want to spot passively. It's the same thing, sitting exactly in the bush(covering visibility checkpoints) with sitting behind the bush from 0 to 15 m ?
yeah, that fits
I got to think of something, actually... You said that using allies for spotting, you will still have the 10 seconds extra spotting, right? What if the allies does have those spotting/hiding bonuses? Will that still be those 10 seconds?
when the bushes within 15 m disappear when firing, do they disappear only for the shooting vehicle or all vehicle within this radius
yourself only. you cant get team mates spotted.
Hard to understand, but still works...
A way to see the effective camo radius of trees and bushes in the game would be nice where for example if you press alt you will see all the 25-Bushes in yellow and all the 50-Bushes in a deep orange so you can use all bushes effectively
"we plan on adding 150% RNG to the camo system so less experienced players do not get punished as hard as they should for making mistakes by players who spent thousands of hours playing our unbalanced frustrating shitfest of a game, featuring horrible maps, terrible matchmaking that will happily add nine pure support tanks on each side so nobody can ever make a move and everyone sits around for 12 minutes, and laughable vehicle balance"
-WG 2019 (allegedly)
is there a way to purchase the black market tanks on the site or in the app? i will be on a cruise starting tomorrow, and i really dont want to miss a premium tier 8 for credits. ;( i missed the bulldog cause i didnt understand the BM at the time
Next topic
Map awareness and terrain exploit for different types of tanks with different carateristics
Terrain exploitation is nullified by arty, so it's an irrelevant topic
Try doing one on how “special” ammo works. Maybe then I can angle against all the heat spammers
How about explaining vehicle modules?
topic for the next video should be about " Who in War Gaming had the stupid idea to use RNG? "
So if my max view range is 450m, then i can't spot vehicles that are further than 400m? Does it always subtract the 50 meters?
Expand on the commander's vision system?
finally an idiot proof, self explanatory video about this topic...great work guys :)
I have 1 question
Because you can use destroyable objects to hide behind so you can't be spotted. Can you use destroyed tanks to hide behind?
plz make video about how shot when tank is on the move
This is easy, we do not need a video. Get to a full speed, aim towards approximate direction of the enemy tank, shoot and pray. There is very low chance to hit on the move, but it is worth trying ;)
//Kayi4ek
P.S. It also depends on a tank you are driving :)
Also autoaim
How long does spotting last. I literally cannot find this answered. How long once you are spotted if you conceal yourself are you concealed again? Is it that 14s max if you have the perks?
16 seconds max today. But it's mostly the usual 10 seconds.
“It all makes senses” right I mean it does make sense it took you like 8 years to finally make it
Make.more.videos.like.this.please.
That moment when you try to use a bush correctly but don't have enough gun depression.
Hi , what tier X heavy is worth grinding nowadays in your opinion?
tryhard=277 and WZ 5A
lazy=S.conq
troll=Kranvagn
all of these are good tanks. no question
World of Bushes 😂 good video though, very useful for every player 👌
to increase the concealment, use Viet Cong soldier as your crew
Thanks for tutorial. But why it took 7 8 years to make tutorial about concealment
What do you mean ? they made the wiki that explains all this!
@@moffepolle do u think that new player will search for it on wiki
@@BanesPlanes those with a working brain, yeah
@@BanesPlanes I did. Well I used sidestrsfe and jingles to learn back in the day
They already explained it in a video a few years ago
Can we have that bush cammo at the start :D
What about the blitz is that will be using same mechanics
What is the logic behind Sixth sense? Please explain
Finnaly I know why on fishermans bay I get spotted rought bushes (in the middle) by light thanks with my M48A5 Patton(and other medium tanks), thanks lol. I was calling the map broken 24/7 but now I see I was wrong, lol.
Most maps have only ONE bush on a ridge after the Episode 1,0 DEFORESTATION patch... So blind firing is idiot easy!!!
So firing from behind an opague bush doesn't make you invisible to those on the other side of it?
Interesting
I thought the perk was active only when you point your reticle at a tank not your gun...
I love the Steel Buddies intro music
So thre is no 445m limit ? or what ? ... so yo ucan spot enemies at 445m max, but higher spooting range is appliedto this formula ?
Next video explain how RNG works :DDDD
i got negative results using your spot distance formula ???
Its the bush itself waaw
i wonder if this works in world of tanks merceneries
I have a UDES03 with a 1043 camo rating how do I use the formula to work out the min distance before someone see's me?
U dont. U train sixth sense to ur commander and u do it by trial and error.
It depends on what spoting distance enemy tank has
does it principle apply to WoTB too?
WG reinvented the infamous "Romulan cloaking DEVICE" !
"Good" job ....
How to you explain tank disappear in front of my face like 20-50m away while moving.
I was in a match, an AMX 12T approached me very fast, shot me and went into a tiny bush that is 20-50m away from me and disappeared. How???
Light tanks have only lose their camo rating when they shoot they keep their camo even while moving
Still ive played light tanks and you'd need a really good crew to get that close without being spotted
Does this work on the mobile world of tanks blitz