Pacific Series Part 2: The Disaster at Midway
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After losing the whole video Thursday, I was able to remake it in time for this weekend. Part 2 goes from right after Pearl Harbor following Japanese expansion to their first major defeat at Midway and their huge loss of striking ability losing many carriers in the process.
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Japan was looking for a Decisive Battle at Midway, and Japan got a Decisive Battle at Midway.
Be careful what you wish for, it might go horribly right
Just not what they hoped for
Zachary Kissoon no plan survives contact with the enemy.
I mean lets be honest here...
The us knew the plan apparently so the us had the advantage.
And they send a carrier that was thought to be damaged and not able to fight.
So it was a double surprise effect for the us navy + getting lucky with the japanese being caught left handed when the us planes reached the japanese carriers.
So its really arrogant to make fun of japanese strategy here
@@kloschuessel773 no they are also to blame. The original plan based on the assumsion that the japanese going out with six carriers therefore has a numerical superiority. Shoukaku is inoperational because of battle at coral sea. However Zuikaku is operational and all it need to do to bring her is by reinforcing her air group with squadron from other carrier (in this case shoukaku) but Yamamoto didnt do this or adjust his plan either and instead went with just 4 carrier against 3 us carrier + midway airbase. He basically lower his margin of error
Not to mention inadequate recon plan, Positioning of the main body (yamato, nagato, mutsu, etc),the invasion force, and the carrier group that is so far from each other to provide direct support. Also questionable is yamamoto decision to command from the yamato, 600 miles away from kido butai and the battle, meaning his tactical awareness is severely limited. The japanese rely too much on us navy behaving exactly as they predicted so closed the room for contingencies
Yorktown: The ship that was patched up so ludicrously fast after taking damage, that the Japanese thought it was a different ship with the same name.
I thought the Japanese thought that it was a "ghost carrier"
それも効く
“Wait didn’t I literally JUST kill you?”
Same with enterprise a few times they thought thay sank the big e a few times I believe
@@USSEnterprise6126 And Lexington.
Step 1: realize how important carriers are
Step 2: lose 4 carriers
Step 3: panic
They (Japan) knew how important the carriers would be. Some commanders in the IJN still hung on to battleships and surface battles being the decisive elements, but the people who planned and executed Pearl Harbor and Midway operations (Yamamoto and his officers) knew how important the carriers were for both sides, hence the primary objective of seeking and baiting the USN carriers into an engagement to destroy them.
Americans when Japanese use their tactics: *shrug*
Japanese when the Americans use their tactics: *confused screaming*
When your Emperor asks where all your carriers went
Mfw divebombers do a divebomb.
Dive bombers: *Shrug*
*Commits sudoku*
Good question
They actually hid the truth about Midway from the emperor.
Japanese carriers: move to Midway
U.S intelligence: I'm about to end this man's whole career
U mean Fletcher not ultra
Japanese Navy: Why is their Boss fight music
Boss fight: The US in Midway.
It actually wasn't Ultra. It was an entirely different code-breaking unit (all American, at that), breaking an entirely different code (and a new code, at that), using entirely different equipment.
*end those men whole carriers*
technically its the NSA, or what eventually became the NSA...
The Yorktown can't be complimented enough. Damaged after the battle of the Coral Sea, the Japanese had written it off as sunk when in fact it managed to make it back to Peal Harbor (Albeit damaged and lacking most of it's planes). It was estimated that the Yorktwon required at least 90 days of drydock repair before it could be combat ready again.
Nimitz gave them 3.
In 3 days, the Yorktown was ready to go to sail off and fight at midway, a literal miracle performed by the dockworkers of Hawaii.
Not only that, but during Midway when the Japanese first retaliated against the Yorktown, they thought they sunk it. So in an attempt to even the playing field, they attacked, what they thought was a different Carrier. Instead, they attacked the Yorktown twice.
The dock i went to, took three days to replace a single 3 inch tube.
Nimitz: "See those Jap carriers?"
Fletcher: "Yes, Sir!"
Nimitz: "I don't want to."
Nimitz was back in Pearl Harbor. Never saw a Jap carrier during Midway.
"Yes, Sir."
“Ay admiral do you want your carriers medium rare? Because I did it anyways”
-dive bombers pilots
"Nagumo's No-Good Horrible Very Bad Day" is probably the best possible description of Midway.
Netherlands: damn we lost to the Germans, at least we got the East Indies
Japan: I'm about to end this man's whole career
I don't know how to name things. Yes it’s what we thought
The Dutch even considered moving their capital to Batavia at one point - It's not crazy to suggest an alternate history in which the whole Dutch nation migrates to the East Indies!
GEdeKOLONISEERD
Aw shucks, atleast they have *Suriname*
Indonesian Revolutionary Force hearing Japanese incoming attack : :)
When the Japanese planes are bombarding Midway and the American planes are getting close to your carriers: (chuckles) I'm in danger
When you're about to launch 4 carriers worth of attack aircraft against the American carriers but you hear dive bombers and they aren't yours:
*Nervous laughter* wtf
Little did Japan know that there was gonna be a massive mushroom on their mainland in a few years time
'Maybe it's friendly?'
"Mr. Hirohito...I don't feel so good..."
@Jefferson Tong
'Maybe THEY are friendly!'
@@EatmydbzballsFRIENDLY MUSHROOM! MUSHY GIANT FRIEND!!!
I hope it was a chantarelle, although portabellos are mighty fine too
Nowadays Midway is a National Wildlife Refuge and breeding ground for the near threatened Laysan albatross. It has become home sweet home for the birds. The oldest wild bird in the world is found on the island, a female named Wisdom who was born in 1951
Nice to know that it's not just death that Midway's famous for.
It always was. Even during the war. They were very tame. One US pilot enticed an albatross into his friend’s bunk (with food) as a joke. His friend got a huge shock, and a chunk nipped out of his thumb when he went to get into bed. True story.
The birds were there since before the war. A lot of them were killed by military-owned dogs.
Tim Smith It wasn’t always a National Wildlife Refuge. It became one in 1988
Avery The Cuban-American
He meant the birds were always there.
An interesting sidenote on the USA breaking the IJN codes: They could intercept and decipher the codes, but didn't know what the code word for Midway was. So they had the base send out a message with "Our water supplies are running low" or something like that. The USA then waited and intercepted an IJN transmission, stating that "American base (insert code word here) is low on water". So when the IJN was constantly using the code word for Midway, the Americans knew well in advance that the base was going to be the main target of the planned carrier strike.
Target af I believe
They had a strong belief that AF was Midway, and the ruse was only in the week before the attack. They ran that ruse about wat6er to confirm 100% that AF was Midway. If they didnt get confirmation they might still have prepared the same way for Midway, but also have done something else to detect or deter the operation.
That’s some GD grade-A high intellectual maximum brain power forethought usage tbh.
Nagumo: "Oh boy! Midway!"
**American planes appear overhead**
Nagumo: **high pitched squeal**
In the US, we know the successful sudden strike on the IJN Carriers as “McClusky’s Miracle”.
In Japan, this event is known as “Where the hell did all these gaijin planes come from?”
America: Remember when you sunk my ship in swallow water and fail to get my carrier
Japan: Ah shit don't remind us again
Failure at Pearl Harbor. Midway: Japan, “Oh shit, here we go again”
Church literally saved sailors from getting bombed.
Japan: "Remember when my Japan-izing beam turned your ships into waifus?"
@@JoelJames2 Didn't matter won the war and got carrier waifus.
@@Web720 "I see this as an absolute win"
Midway: exsists
Japanese Carrier fleet: yo I’m straight up not having a good time
You didn't sink my battleship! Carrier? Never heard of it.
Who carrier I don't remember such a thing
And then I said "Carrier? I hardly knew her!" Hahaha!
"Carriers are just myths"
Ah, yes, "carriers"; the large ships carrying airplanes that are supposedly the future of naval combat. We have dismissed that claim.
*Nanjing*
*WOOPS HOW THAT GET IN THERE*
Nothing happened in Nanjing apparently
@@rodrigogascagomez5190 Just like nothing happened on Tiananmen square...
What did happen in Nanjing? I’ve heard of Nankin, are they the same thing?
You misspelled Armenia. Wait, what’s that?
So many things I don’t know about o.o
*The Solomon islands exist* Japan: "yeah I got time" Morgan Freeman " but he indeed did not have time"
When you can intercept and decode your enemy's encrypted messages before they have time to decode them, themselves.
*INTELLIGENCE: 100*
seeing the large size of the Yamoto fills you with DETERMINATION
~only now notices U.S. dive bombers~
Japanese sailor #1: heh heh
I'm in danger
Britian did the Same thing to Germany
@@vinz4066 Took them some time
*Far from shore, a Pacific war!*
*Bombs are falling from the skies;*
*It's a bomb-run day, it's the naval way*
*A blood-red sun is on the rise!!*
*guitar solo kicks in*
When the winged Carriers arrived!
...
...
Wait, wrong battle..
r/unexpectedsabaton
MIDWAY! WE'LL MEET AT MIDWAY! NAAAAA-VAAAAAL WAR!
DISPLAY THEIR MIGHT, ORDERING CARRIERS
ADMIRALS AT WAR
*WE MEET AT MIDWAY*
TO WIN THE FIGHT, TACTICS ARE CRUCIAL
*NAAAAAAVAL WAR*
"In a day the Japanese Navy went from etc etc etc"
Not even that. Five minutes. That's how long it took Japan to essentially lose the naval war in the Pacific. Oh and a metric fuckton of that good ol' Enterprise cheat level luck.
Well enterprise is the God of the pacific
(Fight me)
Enterprise was American, she wouldn't have used not-getting-to-the-moon ass metric
@@cleverusername9369 psssst the Moon missions all used metric measurements
Not really, given that Japan’s most capable carriers weren’t even at Midway and that Japan actually recovered most of the pilots at Midway (this video gets this wrong).
What really killed the IJN carrier arm was Guadalcanal.
@Bk Jeong Eh? Four out of the six IJN fleet carriers were at Midway because Shoukaku had been mauled and Zuikaku damaged during the battle of the Coral Sea and needed repairs and to replace large aircraft pilot losses. Almost all of Hiryuu's surviving pilots were lost because of her final counterattack, Akagi and Kaga's took major losses both in air and from the hangar explosions that sank them. Between the four carriers, they lost over 5,000 veteran carrier crew and pilots. Without those fleet carriers, they were on parity with the allies but fell behind massively in their both industrial capacity to replace them quickly enough and their ability to replace aircrew because of the way they taught combat pilots.
"I personally enjoy aircraft carriers the most"
oh no
*Dramactic music as an Admiral Kuznetsov launched its total amount of Su-33s*
*Proceeds to alt f4*
*KAMIKAZE FLIES INTENSIFY*
Yamamoto: let's not tell theme there's aircraft carriers
American pilots: bitch gonna die
world war boi hi mate how are u today. Did anyone of your family were in the war or in any war u know.
@@phuct4980 um yeah my grandpa fought in Normandy and my great grandfather fought in France in ww1 for a short while he didint get their till 1918 my grandpas brother joined before him he was sent to the Pacific and his friend based of of what my grandpa told me unfortunately died on normandy
world war boi ok my uncle fight for the vietcong my family was tear apart from south and north, he was force to fight if he want my family in the north to have a place to live. Unfortunately he died a few year before the war end via agent orange gas.
@@phuct4980 I'm sorry to hear that my dad uncle severed in Vietnam I'm sorry for your loss
My grandpa faught in Midway. I still have his ka-bar. After Midway he got a knife made with a handle made of plastic from a Japanese fighter plane
That's cool
Wow hold up
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choose your side.
@@rossf8616
Potential History
@@arthurmorgan2418 MURICA TIME
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Go Badger
Pacific islands: *exists*
Japan: *would be a shame if someone just captured this*
This series is going to take forever
Nagumo: let’s attack midway to bait their carriers
Nimitz: I’m ‘bout to do what’s called a pro gamer move.
*Shows non-controversy lists
*inserts Nanjing
Nice meme
Don’t believe this damn bias nothing happened in Nanjing it was basically just the Japanese having an awesome party with many Chinese Women.
@@tjb_6203 undead women?
Dinosaurus Rex
Well some of them celebrated their liberation too much so they died from alcohol poisoning
TJB _
You kidding right? If not, *go back to school you weeaboo*
Of course he's kidding
A swarm of panes from the Enterprise atack the Kaga.
"OWARIDA" : Enterprise probably.
Nice reference 👌
i love pane
Mannnnn shut yo ass up lmao
wew boy that 1-800-now-arc-rime got me good
Slatts I don’t get it
@@maplesyrup6529 no war crime
Alek Hope oh ok thx
I read it as 1-800-new-warcrime
You forgot to mention the Philippine Commonwealth troops that fought as hard as the Americans. At this point, the Philippines was semi-independent with nominal autonomy so by that extension, we fought as allies and not as colonial troops.
But still, great video!
Britannic hayyomatt
Erhm, no. America did not govern the Philippines the same way as the British governed their own colonies. The Philippines was a semi-independent country thanks to the Tydings-Mcduffie Act and America realizing it was the late kid who brought into the schoolyard fad.
Practically, my grandfathers fought for the Philippines, under Filipino officers who took orders from the Quezon government and coordinated with American forces.
Britannic hayyomatt
Fair point. The only thing I’m ticked about is that he didn’t mention the Philippine Army who fought on their own soil and the Filipinos who endured five years of brutality and rape.
CrazyNikel wow calm down mate
@Britannic hayyomatt You typed all of that and I never said otherwise? I said the facts, which was the US would win regardless. It was an overwhelming victory that forced Japan to consider using *school children to fight.* So again, nicely typed and I agree. These people fought hard *as I originally said.* But, as you Euros love saying Russia won the war in Europe, the US on the other hand won the war in the pacific.
@Britannic hayyomatt If you arent a anti US troll: czcams.com/video/l9ag2x3CS9M/video.html watch that video *done by a German* and you will understand.
I feel honored to have a video I made be featured here! Enjoyed the history man! :)
Another thing about Midway was that the IJN suppressed information on the battle's results from pretty much everyone that wasn't the Emperor and his close aides (their official tally on the battle at the time was somewhere along the lines of 1 carrier lost and the USN fleet annihilated).
Grey Ghost soon!
They didn’t tell the Emperor either, actually.
I wonder if Hirohito ever went “Uh guys, isn’t it kinda weird that we’ve destroyed the pacific fleet like 4 times?”
Me, a DD main: Oh boy a new Potential History video! He sure is one of my favorite youtubers!
Potential History: I'm a carrier main
Me: You're dead to me
You are, by far, one of my favorite youtubers as you blend memes and history in such a brilliant way. I am so glad that I have something that I can share with my dad that he can enjoy too. Keep up the great work
Ironfox ur mom gay
@@MF-wl2yn Why is this the one reply lmao
I'm just gonna reply so that the likes can be divided by 3 and it to be equal
Freddy Fazbear And Springtrap gtfo bitch
Kilroywashere: REDDIT ROX!
Hey everyone, I realized that it's been a while since part 1 of this series and some people may have forgotten since it's been so long, so I linked part 1 in the description (lead up and Pearl Harbor) for anyone who wants to go back and watch it or hasn't watched it yet. Thanks everyone for watching and I'm looking forward as we continue this series!
Hey Potential History you should redo this video. It’s not detailed enough and has a giant rushed feeling compared to the rest of what I’ve watched of yours. I really like your content but this is not the quality I usually see in here. The whole battle of Midway is much more complicated than what’s presented here.
Sherm’s Gaming Shenanigans
It’s also quite inaccurate on several points.
0:30 “Whoops how’d that get in there” for Nanjing😂😂😂
USA: "(japan,) the numbahs dont lie... A N D T H E Y S P E L L D I S A S T A H F O R Y O U"
japan: _nervous sweating_
The second wave of Japanese against the Yorktown though it was a different carrier it because of how quickly it got repaired after the first wave.
Funny. I've recently seen Battle at Midway with Japanese fog of war videos recommended to me, watched the entire series guy had about the war in the Pacific, and decided to collect the Kido Butai in 1:700 scale. I'm painting the Shokaku while watching this (if only had it been present...)
"I SHALL RETURN"
-MC ARTHUR
I miss that quotation
@@Americana1453 ohh sorry wrong spelling
Japan: "I can't see. Are we boned?"
Nagumo: "Yep."
Me: **dead xD**
When you use Global Chat instead of Team..
I thought this series was dead
Im happy it isnt. ¡great video!
Me to
It's been scheduled to where the final episode will air on the anniversary of the Japanese surrender, so it's going to be kind of spread out. But will finish and go the whole way!
oh so it's kinda like how the great war channel did there series on ww1
@@PotentialHistory that's what goering said at stalingrad...
Potential History
I honestly have to say this is one of your weakest videos; it reinforces old myths about Midway and about IJN carrier doctrine in general.
Side-note:
The US was originally going to bring USS Saratoga CV-3 as a 4th carrier for the battle, but it was going under repairs after suffering a hit from a torpedo it took during a raid, so the flight groups from Saratoga were used to reinforce Yorktown's airgroups after the losses it suffered at Coral Sea
as far as "turning points" I'd wager the really important ones were not necessarily in battle, but in decryption and espionage.
Once Japanese and German (engima) codes were broken it was pretty much downhill for them, even if they had more carriers to spare the allies knew when, where, and how they were going the use them, their strategies, plans, routes etc. and could prepare and set traps accordingly having that information at their disposal.
Japan’s basically that kid in RISK that just yeets the entirety of Asia in one turn because ignoring them seemed like a good idea at the time
The Battle of the Coral Sea was a Japanese Tactical Victory and an American Strategic Victory, whilst The Battle of Midway was an American Decisive Victory.
when you realize the Pacific Theatre was lowkey the greatest naval war in history
edit: oops was that spoilers?
Well it was until around late 1942 early 43 after that it was basically a stomp fest for the most part
@@USSEnterprise6126 no. 1944 saw the biggest naval battle in history
@@idisplaypace2411 what is the name of it
Leyte gulf
@@idisplaypace2411 layte was part of the stomp fest
It was over 300 allied ships including 8 fleet carriers vs 67 Japanese with 1 fleet carrier
Tell me how that isn't a stomp (I Google largest navel battle and layte came up)
So yes after what the dates I stated it was a stomp fest
*Nanjing scrolls by* "whoops howd that get in there"
I spit out my coffee when i heard that
"Hands of American Troops in the Philippines" Erm I know this is just small thing but I would really appreciate atleast calling also Filipino troops that particpated in defending my country
but nevertheless great video!
(Pls dont dis on me in the comments)
Prepare to be dissed (not really)
They really should be called American Filipino troops seeing they where under American control but still nationally Filipino and seeing we call African troops in WW2 with their prefixes and even Indian troops we probably should do the same for the Filipinos
Britannia 1812 well a lot of them were Americans. It was a mixed force of US army and Philippine constabulary.
You could say the Filipinos counted as Americans because your country was part of the US at the time
The Philippines back then was a commonwealth on it's way to independence, read Tydings-McDuffie Act, which reclassified Filipinos as non-Americans.
I guess you _could_ also interpret the statement as "American-controlled" troops, like "Soviet tanks in Finland in 1944" are probably going to be American-made. Though yeah, it wasn't just Americans defending the Philippines.
Now-arc-rime? what is that?
no war-
*oh*
0:59 "Simulator"
Yeah, we'll go with that
Just a slight correction
Nagumo went on a CRUISER not a destroyer
also the 3rd "group" was literally just a lieutenant and his wingmen Dick Best
and Best's bomb singlehandedly told Akagi that it wasnt allowed to exist
A (un?)fortunate name
The most "NANI?!" moment in history. Of all time.
"Pearl Harbor"
"Nanjing"
"Whoops! How did that get in there?"
Fun fact 1: All 4 Japanese carriers were sunk within 5 minutes. It's even called "The five minutes that changed history".
Fun fact 2: The Japanese Navy tried to hide their defeat at Midway and announced a great victory instead, saying that they had sunk several US ships and lost merely one carrier. This greatly disrupted military plans and even Tojo himself only learned of the defeat several months later.
They were idiots
3 of the 4 were hit in the 5 minutes, Hiryuu was ahead of the carriers so she escaped that to launch her strikes at Yorktown twice while thinking she was attacking two different carriers.
Pacific Series Part 2: Electric Boogaloo?
I've noticed a pattern that many of Japan's naval plans centered around complicated maneuvers and coordination between fleets and yet they were not talking to each other in an attempt to stay hidden. Both during the battles off of the Philippines and Midway, the Japanese appeared to have had no idea where each other were and what the situation was.
Michael Reikes
Overcomplicated planning was one of the biggest problems with the IJN; honestly it was a far more endemic problem than the usually mentioned “focused too much on battleships”, because while everyone in WWII built useless battleships, only Imperial Japan drew up stupidly convoluted naval plans that didn’t fit even their own doctrine.
For example, the “decisive battle” they wanted would have gone like this:
- first, use your own carriers to kill any surviving enemy carriers (this part is sound)
- then, after nightfall launch torpedo attacks on enemy screening units and then attack the main enemy battleline itself (Japanese torpedoes were among the best of the war, but even they weren’t so good as to be able to have as much of an impact as the plan called for. So it’s questionable whether this stage would have worked in practice)
- finally, use your own battleships to mop up the remainder of the enemy battleline, using long-range fire at ranges of 35,000-40,000 yards to avoid own casualties (this is the pointless part; the whole reason for killing the enemy carriers is so enemy carriers can’t kill your own battleships, but that also means you can just use your own carriers to sink the enemy battleline with impunity. So why even bother adding this third stage of the battle? Aside from that, there’s the fact that naval gunfire at those ranges was very inaccurate even with late-war radar-guided American fire control, making it impossible to actually sink anything in an useful timeframe. This problem would be worse for the Japanese as they only had search radar and then only on newer ships)
It worked until we cracked their codes I think that had a lot more to do with it.
@@bkjeong4302 Their intel was really poor and then we cracked their codes that probably had more to do with it than anything else.
Then:Pacific series directed by Steven Spielberg
Now:Pacific series directed by Potential history
Boring: The first option.
Dope: The second option.
I'd watch it.
I just discovered this channel a few days ago, and after some obligatory binge watching, it is in my top 5 if not top 3 favorites now. Great content man
So many people who aren't first, such a shamefur dispray
Cola BotelsOVA Duh herro
Yamamoto: Haha with my four carriers, there's no way the Americans can defend Midway
USS Enterprise, Hornet, and Yorktown: *Allow us to introduce ourselves*
Good idea: Sinking an enemy fleet in a surprise attack.
Bad idea: Sinking it in harbor where the ships can easily be refloated or repaired...
The Enterprise was such a CHAD ship. I’m glad the story of it was told on history channel back in the day. The crew of the USS Enterprise hands down get the MVP medal for the pacific war.
Just a heads ups, the hosho is not a premium ship, its the first aircraft carrier in its tier
shows Nanjing
"OOPS How did that get in there?"
Corona virus?
Japanese Emperor: GIVE ME BACK MY CARRIERS!
I got a farmers insurance when I called the number.
5:42 you could say that the Japanese achieved a tactical victory while the Americans gained a strategic victory
One of your best intros yet. Not to mention mention one of your best episodes yet. I got a very good documentary feel from this one.
I recommend to people who are interested to watch the MIDWAY movie. Its an old but fantastic and really accurate movie of the battle of midway using actual color footage from the battle mix with animated footage.
noblegamer56
It’s not that accurate-the historiography of the battle (and other Pacific Theatre battles) has changed a lot since it came out, so a lot is out of date.
@@bkjeong4302 You know, I'm debating whether to recommend people to play Empire Earth: Art of Conquest American campaign for one of the most cringe worthy Midway recreation ever conceived or not.
It starts with BOTH American and Japanese fielding *Gearing Class destroyer* , then there's Zeroes that's spawned from the ocean floor instead of from IJN carriers because the AI controlling Japanese side doesn't like following the script and drive the carriers away from where they historically located. And if you failed a spot check or bad at scouting (the map is huge so it's even more likely) you can run your Enterprise into their fleet too because, again, they're not where they supposed to be and planes has limited fuel thus cannot traverse the entire map. It's like the developers doesn't want to give players with history knowledge an easy win.
machaiping
Dafuq?
@@bkjeong4302 But to be fair, back when this game came out, 4GB harddisk and 650 MB CD Rom is considered super-expensive high-end rigs, and this game spanned from Prehistoric period with Cavemen to Future era with Giant Robots, they just don't have enough disk space for every unique unit models for everything so they settled for that.
But that doesn't excuse the AI decided that it doesn't like the Midway script (or any historical missions script at all) and doing their own thing despite it's supposed to be recreation of historical event though.
Imagine having a ship that had turrets, this meme was made by the aircraft carrier gang
Harry Zhao imagine having a ship with a fuck ton of planes and this meme was made by battleship gang
Imagine your ship taking years upon years to build and costing millions but being sunk by a torpedo
This meme was made by the submarine gang
Cxxvii imagine just because you are submerged you can escape a depth charge this meme was made by destroyer gang
@@yourlocalt72 imagine having to travel by sea, this meme was made by Planes gang
Imagine having to have pilots to kill things from hundreds of miles away
This meme was made by the missile cruiser gang.
Japan: Let's win
Japan's generals: I don't know about that chief
Japan's carriers: *Uh*
Japan : After this glorious battle, the Americans will be on their backfoot yet again!
Carriers : *Uhh I'm about to head out tho*
9:07
Now HOW the Enterprise bombers got to the Japanese force is a bit of a funny story.
The USS Nautilus, a submarine in the Midway task force, shadowed the Japanese force and basically had Nagumo s***ting himself. He dispatched the destroyer IJN Arashi to turn around and make depth charge runs on Nautilus. Arashi manages several hits, but Nautilus escapes.
Meanwhile, the SBD squadron from the Enterprise had followed a predicted route that the carriers MIGHT have taken, and found nothing. This was where Wade McCluskey had to make a choice:
- Return to the Enterprise to refuel
- Keep shadowing the area or maybe head south to find a different route
McCluskey, as we know, went with option 2, and it wasn't for nothing. While the planes kept running low, the crew spotted a ship sailing in the distance. Now guess what ship that was exactly...
It was the IJN Arashi lol. She gave up on her hunt for Nautilus and headed back to the carriers. McCluskey caught her on her return trip, followed her course, and unleashed hell with his squadron. So you could say the biggest help for the Americans at Midway wasn't even American.
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Simulator *
Realistic*
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No seriously ive played it for ages and only have a few tier 5s
Call me when War Thunder has a respectable naval presence.
@@AlabamaSoldier hey uh, it does now.
@@rockboy3970 Ah, really? How is they naval battles in comparison with World of Warships?
I highly recommend Montemeyer's Midway video. Best on youtube.
It's from the Japanese perspective of the battle, so you only know what they know as it plays out.
Agreed very good video.
@@eldorados_lost_searcher I actually loved the way he told it as it let's you understand the decisions the Japanese took.
We'll meet at midway
To win the fight,
tactics are crucial
Naval war
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Midway!!!
Read an interesting book many years ago. It was a breakdown of the Battle of Midway through the eyes of a couple of Japanese naval officers present at the engagement.
The upshot was is the IJN had serious case of victory disease, due to their string of victories. So much so that during sand table exercises for the commanding officers, ships that were killed were miraculously brought back to life.
Essentially, even the training was colored by those victory glasses. This was one of many reasons they got spanked at Midway.
"Nagumo's Terrible, Horrible, No-Good, Very Bad Day"
Lost it there.
well this was well timed, i was watching the japanese pov of midway, then the fortester aircraft carrier explosion during vietnam
You forgot to mention most glorious warship ever.
USS Enterprise CV-6. (Well HMS Victory ties.)
Warren Lehmkuhle
HMS Victory only won a major victory once and then didn’t do much.
Enterprise won a major victory, and then kept fighting in multiple smaller engagements. Though after the Essexes came about she was verging on obsolescence.
To boldly go where no sailor has gone before...
Bk Jeong I would say HMS Warspite would be a better contender fought ww1 & 2 including Jutland and pretty much ever theatre in WW2
@@andrewcampbell7771 HMS Warspite is awesome. Even if it had a bit of a tendency to crash into things.
And no shoutout to the only CV rivalry in the world. Enterprise and Zuikaku. These two, in all except 2 battles, always had their planes fight. They were really the only example of two opposing enemy ships that can be called Nemesis. That, and Zuikaku tried to carry the Combined Fleet as one of Japan's only remaining Fleet Carriers after Midway.
Actually Operation AL wasn’t designed as a diversion. It was it’s own full operation and it being a diversion is a common myth. I highly recommend the book Shattered Sword by Jonathan Parshall and Anthony Tully, it’s a fantastic book on Midway from the Japanese perspective and addresses many myth about the battle.
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3:05 those Australians be walking with swagger
I have to disagree,if the Japanese did not understand how important carriers were than they would have conducted more of a classic attack (like a bombardment) or just set up a submarine blockade and prevent any ships from leaving the harbor. The point of Perl harbor was to delay the Americans long enough for them to be able to claim tarritorty in the pacific. Ps I absolutely love your content keep up the good work
Berek Boolley
The Japanese considered battleships as more important but also recognized enemy carriers as being the priority targets in any engagement.
Nanjing
Potential History: ops how did that get in there.
*(Insert Sabaton meme)*
MIDWAY, WE MEET AT MIDWAY, NAVAL WAR!!!!!
Where is limited edition Soviet-Manchuria border spin-off?
It would be an interesting scenario what if Japan goes to full conquest of Hawaii itself, with the force they were preparing to conquer South East Asia.
In this scenario now US carriers had to make a Midway against Hawaii somewhere in 1943.
I doubt Japan's logistics could handle that.
A great view of this battle from the Japanese perspective is from Montemayor, who doesn't upload nearly as much as he should.
The Japanese really expanded themselves until they were not able to defend themselves against the island hopping operations.
Nah the only reason they lost is because they couldn't replace their men and equipment.
The tides have turned. I see what you did there.
5:30 The reasons it's considered an American victory is:
1) It took not one, but two Japanese fleet carriers out of action at a critical point. Even though Zuikaku was undamaged, its air group had taken serious losses. Because of the strict way the IJN managed its carrier air groups (where each air group was tied to its carrier, and could not be switched around, and each carrier was part of a pair that always operated together), this meant that Zuikaku couldn't just take on the remaining airmen/planes from Shoukaku and participate in the Battle of Midway a month later. This is crucial because the only reason the USN actually fought at Midway was because it was able to scrape together enough aircraft to match the Japanese carrier fleet in terms of quantity, even if the quality of many of its pilots/planes were not at all equal to that of the Japanese in that battle (the Marine and Army aviators/planes being not up for the task of conducting an attack against enemy warships, though their attacks still served a critical purpose). Because of this, Japan sailed into Midway with just four fleet carriers rather than six (plus a light carrier, which the USN sank at Coral Sea), and lost all four of them.
2) Strategically, the invasion of Port Moresby was cancelled. This is really important, because it was literally the first time in the war that a Japanese invasion had been defeated outright (rather than just delayed for a few days). Port Moresby's location and facilities meant that Japan would have been able to attack the sea lanes between the US and Australia directly with aircraft constantly, which would have been a very big deal. It's why the USN even fought at Coral Sea to begin with.
3) The USN learned just how vulnerable carriers were to having their aviation gasoline lines cracked/ruptured (which could easily spell doom for the ship as soon as a single spark ignites the fumes), and invented a solution to solve that problem, by flooding the aviation gasoline lines with inert gas before an attack is incoming. This very innovation allowed the USS Yorktown to absorb tremendous punishment at Midway and still stay in the fight, and would later be instrumental in allowing the USS Enterprise, USS Hornet, and USS Saratoga to do the same in the rest of 1942. It also learned that the bomb sights for its dive bombers fogged up when executing a dive in tropical climates, which was very important to know.
As for victory or defeat being measured by tonnage sunk: I present to you the Battle of Jutland, where the Germans absolutely sank more tonnage (by a wide margin) than the British, but the British ended the German Navy's ability and willingness to threaten the British blockage against the Central Powers.
SaltyWaffles
The Imperial German Navy of WWI never actually was large enough to threaten the Entente. Jutland simply maintained that status quo, rather than establishing it.
The immediate German goal at Jutland was also not breaking the blockade; it was to lure out a small section of the Grand Fleet, inflict heavy losses and then flee, The idea was that if they repeated this, eventually it would reduce British naval strength. What actually happened was that the Germans did inflict the losses, but took losses themselves that they weren’t expecting, and then the British never took the bait again for the rest of the war, making Jutland pointless.
Edit: this means that Jutland actually WAS a German victory because they achieved what they wanted....except that achieving their objective still failed to change the reality of the situation.
This is good shit, the Pacific war especially midway, is never talked about enough
Agreed. Everyone talks about France '40, the Battle of Britain, PH, Stalingrad and Normandy, but there is so much left forgotten in between.
My military history professor used to say that the decisive battle and turning point of the Pacific War was Pearl Harbor. The Japanese never recovered from the U.S. entering the war.
Perhaps the best answer as no matter what happened, Japan can never hope to match the US industry and the surprise attack infuriated US too much for them to consider surrendering to Japan as Japan had gambled was their winning move.
@@Nuke89345 They completely underestimated American willingness to fight. It really shows in their propaganda.