Ranking the Fallout 4 Perks in a Tier List

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  • čas přidán 16. 02. 2023
  • Today, I'm attempting to rank all of the perks in Fallout 4's SPECIAL chart into a tier list!
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  • @LemonLuke
    @LemonLuke Před rokem +1017

    Your opinion is wrong. >:(

  • @reagansido5823
    @reagansido5823 Před 8 měsíci +308

    one of the best uses of mysterious stranger is when you have nick in your party just to hear nick comment on his appearance.

    • @GazzyD
      @GazzyD Před 12 dny +8

      Isn’t there a theory that Nick is a synthetic representation of the Mysterious Stranger?

    • @ManTheManLV255
      @ManTheManLV255 Před 9 dny +16

      ​@GazzyD we learn in game who he is based on. It would be the mysterious stranger who is based on the original Nick pre great War.

  • @TheFlyingV
    @TheFlyingV Před rokem +1173

    Lead Belly should have been changed in survival to have a third rank that makes you immune to disease. Seems like an easy way to give the perk any viability but not so game breaking at such a low endurance cost since it costs three perks to get the disease immunity.

    • @colbytutterow1060
      @colbytutterow1060 Před rokem +64

      And could be used to lose mole rat disease if you go for the vault 81 quests.

    • @the-bonser3059
      @the-bonser3059 Před rokem +68

      I think in survival taking perks that negate survival debuffs takes away from the challenge and the whole point of playing survival

    • @elianrodriguez7318
      @elianrodriguez7318 Před rokem

      Last I checked the 3rd rank of Lead Belly only grants you immunity to radiation from food and drinks, it doesn’t give you immunity to illnesses. You can still get sick from eating raw meat and dirty water sources, and it *DEFINITELY* doesn’t get rid of mole rat disease (you’ll need to use the cure to get rid of it, luckily this is a Bethesda game so you could just use the cure duplication exploit).

    • @SepticSafe_
      @SepticSafe_ Před rokem

      @@colbytutterow1060 wait does it negate the mold rat disease????

    • @rangerdeadeye6730
      @rangerdeadeye6730 Před rokem +9

      ​@@SepticSafe_no

  • @TimNurTV
    @TimNurTV Před 10 dny +35

    mysterious stranger is S tier because it's funny no other justification needed

    • @thohangst
      @thohangst Před 5 hodinami

      Since we've established that we're giving a premium to dopamine-inducing perks, yeah, I'd raise it up a few grades.

  • @inerevaraskedforthis
    @inerevaraskedforthis Před rokem +535

    I've always thought about using the intimidation perks with a heavy weapons + power armor build. Being able to kill something is never an issue, the dilema is "is that raider/mole rat actually worth spending ammo on?".

    • @karlkoskie2891
      @karlkoskie2891 Před rokem +41

      (Laughs in aeturnus) Waste?

    • @wilomica
      @wilomica Před rokem +27

      Also intimidation is needed to protect settlements with various monsters. I mean you could just have dogs and cats at your settlements but a few Monsters protecting it works wonders. 5 Mirelurks can make a big difference if you get a raid.

    • @daniellee8162
      @daniellee8162 Před rokem +13

      You have a Gunner mentality

    • @therealevilmudbug
      @therealevilmudbug Před rokem +2

      Also, you could theoretically use Intimadation to finish fights before they start. I've never done it, but maybe that's because I am unlucky

    • @MyHentaiGirlNeko
      @MyHentaiGirlNeko Před rokem +11

      You still gonna kill it anyway
      Why just waste your exp?

  • @ashleyneku5432
    @ashleyneku5432 Před rokem +363

    I think Penetrator's worthy of an S rank, personally. It trivializes many encounters, specifically Sentry bots, power armored humans and mirelurk shells. You can technically also use it to shoot mole rats and radscorpions that are underground, with a little more finesse. One cool thing it allows is the ability to shoot two or more people with a single bullet, but I've never actually done it myself, just seen clips of it. Overall a cool perk that manages to skirt around some of the more difficult enemy types imo.

    • @nikospurr307
      @nikospurr307 Před 10 měsíci +14

      Yes, it's very op and underrated. I've just decided to leave a survival mode playthrough because it's become to easy, level 60ish, and I'm basically unstoppable. Power armor user's and sentry's become free granades with penetrator 😂. I'm starting over with a power armor run with commando and to save on cores I'll have sneak melee for some interiors where I don't need power armor.

    • @maestrofeli4259
      @maestrofeli4259 Před 9 měsíci +3

      I wouldn't it's op but it is very fun and effective, which is deserving of S mostly for the fun aspect.

    • @GremlinSciences
      @GremlinSciences Před 9 měsíci +7

      You missed that it removes the penalty for shooting through visual obstructions such as grass and shrubs, which usually make it difficult to hit small targets like molerats and hounds.

    • @lordhallibel3604
      @lordhallibel3604 Před 8 měsíci

      your comment so is so wrong ,a word was left out @@maestrofeli4259

    • @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool
      @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool Před 3 měsíci

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      Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
      - Acts 3:19
      If are in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna/Rpc, Urcna, or a canrc church
      (These are conservative and actual Presbyterian churches)
      If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms or Wels Lutheran church.
      If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC.
      (Different from the Church of Scotland)
      If you are English I recommend the Free Church of England.
      (Different from the Church of England)
      Also online you can look up church finders for each of the groups and it will show you locations.

  • @jstyxx4110
    @jstyxx4110 Před rokem +269

    Scrapper is REALLY useful early on as screws are very rare early on, and it lets you make more mods early. Rank 2 allows you to get really useful things like Nuclear Material.

    • @57ashdot
      @57ashdot Před rokem +29

      Taking any perk you could compensate by just looking around harder is a waste. Tons of junk vendors for screws.

    • @UteChewb
      @UteChewb Před rokem +20

      I go for rank 2 because then I can get optical fiber for heavy laser turrets. Easy to find in the more advanced Institute weapons. And on the Institute weapons, everyone knows they are crap but they are a godsend of resources with scrapper, just as super mutants are a resource for making oil.

    • @MarkJones-gt2qd
      @MarkJones-gt2qd Před rokem +6

      @@UteChewb You can make oil from super mutants?

    • @UteChewb
      @UteChewb Před rokem +16

      @@MarkJones-gt2qd super mutants have heaps of bones, and bones are the rare resource needed to make Cutting Solution, which is 1 part steel and 3 parts oil. It's at the bottom of the Chemistry bench.

    • @MarkJones-gt2qd
      @MarkJones-gt2qd Před rokem +13

      @@UteChewb Ew. Also ooh. That passed me by. I thought all the bones were just yuck factor!

  • @mugiwarafan18
    @mugiwarafan18 Před rokem +80

    I have only ever taken the Lead Belly perk when I played as a deranged hermit character. One of their characteristics was that they had questionable sanity and hygiene, and so would often eat whatever they found from fancy lad snack cakes, to puddle water, to raw radroach meat.
    Having max rank Lead Belly for the first time ever was quite the experience, as it meant that whenever I got hurt in a fight I could just spam sips from one of the many puddles or ponds in the world and get health back quickly without spending carried food or stimpaks. I had plenty of supplies, but never really needed as much I did before Lead Belly, only enough to get me through firefights. Of course this tactic doesn't hold up in survival mode, but otherwise it's a neat experience and you don't even need to be that high of a level to max out the perk.

  • @PajamaPantsStudios
    @PajamaPantsStudios Před rokem +255

    I love the aqua boy perk. It makes the trek to diamond city easy, because you just swim there instead of dealing with any of the bridges or traps. There’s some early game quests that it REALLY pulls through for, like the last one with the water valves. Definitely handy.

    • @samkaffinsky
      @samkaffinsky Před rokem +25

      I usually unlocked as soon as possible because I usually go in bodies of water, and end up with a lot of radiation for it

    • @noramay6523
      @noramay6523 Před rokem +22

      i love aqua boy/girl rank 1 but rank 2 is genuinely useless imo

    • @therealevilmudbug
      @therealevilmudbug Před rokem

      @@noramay6523 What does it do? I've never invested in Rank 2, so I've forgot

    • @brodyrichter8113
      @brodyrichter8113 Před rokem +11

      @@therealevilmudbug if you go under water the enemies lose track of you. It’s useless because there’s two guaranteed groups of raiders near water.

    • @brodyrichter8113
      @brodyrichter8113 Před rokem +3

      @@therealevilmudbug if you go under water the enemies lose track of you. It’s useless because there’s two guaranteed groups of raiders near water.

  • @JohnRollercoasterJr
    @JohnRollercoasterJr Před rokem +121

    A fun exploit you can do with pain train is opening up your pip boy right before running into an enemy. Not only does this fix the bug where it stops working late in the game, it also makes any enemy you touch fall as if you ran into them, with no cooldown.

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před rokem +21

      Good to know. I ran into that glitch on my all perks run, and only way I knew to fix it was using console commands to remove and then re-add pain train.

    • @thatonetyeguy2330
      @thatonetyeguy2330 Před rokem +1

      Has anybody else's fallout 4 been crashing like every 20 minutes? I'm on Xbox one and when I first got the game it would crash every 3 to 4 hours maybe. After I got all the dlc it started to crash more. I thought "maybe it's my mods" so I deleted them all and started a new character. It didn't help. I tried installing the unofficial patch, nytras tweaks, and less enemies in Boston. It helped a little bit but not enough. The games still unplayable. Doesn't anybody know what the hell happened here?

    • @thatonetyeguy2330
      @thatonetyeguy2330 Před rokem +1

      I went online and they said it's been a known issue on Xbox one, best issue is to just delete all your dlcs/mods and start a new save. Are you freaking serious right now? Before I had the dlcs the game did run way better but like.. is that really the sacrifice I gotta make?

    • @Jjjjjjjnomjjjj
      @Jjjjjjjnomjjjj Před rokem +2

      @@thatonetyeguy2330 There are mods you can get that remove grass as well as some lighting effects it might help with reducing crashing because of less demand on the console just look up FPS boost or any variation of that and they’ll pop up.

  • @miraclewhipped5068
    @miraclewhipped5068 Před 7 dny +11

    Always put a single point into mysterious stranger no matter the build cause it’s fucking great to just randomly after 10 hours finally getting a proc and being like oh fuck forgot I had that

  • @carlasghost656
    @carlasghost656 Před rokem +53

    I played for over two years before I discovered the joys of the shredding minigun.
    Given that most enemies will charge you, especially at closer range, it becomes a heavy upgraded ripper.
    I learned to look forward to swarms of ghouls.

    • @demonpride1975
      @demonpride1975 Před 10 měsíci +1

      i love gun bashing, i take it all the time. i am playing the game as an rpg, and i cannot count how many insta kills i got from a gun bash with rooted.

    • @AmorphisBob
      @AmorphisBob Před 9 měsíci

      The only roadblock for a shredder build is mirelurks. Not even the dangerous mirelurks like hunters kings and queens. Just the basic bitch mirelurks will fuck up your day.

    • @maestrofeli4259
      @maestrofeli4259 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@AmorphisBobyeah it's so shitty how they are constantly blocking. If it was like other melee enemies and blocked from time to time, yeah that's fine, but no, those crabby little fucks GO THROUGH THEIR ENTIRE WORTHLESS LIVES BLOCKING it's so annoying

  • @MxrtyRobbins
    @MxrtyRobbins Před rokem +28

    I love using lead belly to simulate that feeling of eating 72 cheese wheels in Skyrim

    • @RandomFnafMemes
      @RandomFnafMemes Před 5 dny +1

      Idk why he dislikes lead belly. The fact that I can eat stuff without accidentally making myself a one-shot for all enemies is pretty cool.

    • @blaineburns4325
      @blaineburns4325 Před 4 dny

      @@RandomFnafMemes The problem with Lead Belly is that so many healing items don't even give you rads, and the ones that do it isn't even that many, so it barely impacts you at all. Plus, there are so many other perks you could spend that perk point on that would increase your damage or survivability, so Lead Belly incurs a massive opportunity cost.

    • @RandomFnafMemes
      @RandomFnafMemes Před 4 dny

      @@blaineburns4325 water
      Free health

  • @MLPGamer636
    @MLPGamer636 Před rokem +35

    I still think that VANS should have had a third level that reveals all undiscovered locations on the map (Explorer perk).

    • @tylerzehnder
      @tylerzehnder Před 4 hodinami +1

      It should increase the range that you can get them instead by like 2x

  • @Kamarovsky_KCM
    @Kamarovsky_KCM Před 7 dny +13

    As an Omnilooter who takes every single piece of loot and scrap and anything from every single location, I was flabbergasted at the Carry weight and Lockpicking perks not being S, coz they're absolutely the most important ones in my "build", and definitely worth it coz I already have 35k caps at level 20 and I've never even been to Diamond City yet lmao

    • @RandomFnafMemes
      @RandomFnafMemes Před 5 dny +3

      Oh for sure. Scavenging is one of the most important aspects in Fallout 4, it literally allows you to use cap cheeses that would be near impossible without. (I'm talking about carrying 250 cigarette cartons and 250 clean bottles of water at the same time and selling them all to vault 81)

    • @thohangst
      @thohangst Před dnem +1

      They're S-tier purely out of necessity. You don't not get them as a scavenging sort. I can't get enough copies of Blast Radius, personally.

  • @Heretic6sic6
    @Heretic6sic6 Před rokem +203

    I suggest you do a run with only terrible perks.

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před rokem +70

      I already have lots of ideas for runs, but I’ll have to keep this in mind

    • @CoastalKite
      @CoastalKite Před rokem +16

      This is a good idea. Here we come VANS and Lady Killer :joy:

    • @Mojo_Jojo9869
      @Mojo_Jojo9869 Před 13 dny

      That would be more fun. boring when everyone does the same challenges this one is new creative haven’t seen it done before.

    • @PvMKrazy
      @PvMKrazy Před 3 dny

      @@SuperTwonky FO4 coming back super hard rn. Probably a good time for you to make a resurgence 😉

  • @carlasghost656
    @carlasghost656 Před rokem +65

    Penetrator is great when dealing with Sentry Bots. In VATS it let's you shoot through them directly at their core. It works from any angle and you don't have to wait for it to cool down.

    • @christinaedwards5084
      @christinaedwards5084 Před rokem

      Could always use a critical 💁🏻‍♀️

    • @maestrofeli4259
      @maestrofeli4259 Před 9 měsíci +15

      ​@@christinaedwards5084I'm pretty sure you can't use a critical hit if the hit % is zero

    • @jamesworkshop9181
      @jamesworkshop9181 Před 3 měsíci +2

      I used to rank that combat move high but stopped doing it once I figured I was destroying the most valuable bit of loot

  • @bad-people6510
    @bad-people6510 Před rokem +26

    Overpenetration from Penetrator has screwed me over before. It's particularly good against Sentry Bots, since it lets you hit their fusion cores directly, but many a time I've blown up people I didn't men to because I ended up hitting a car on the other side of my target.

  • @mikeshaver-miller745
    @mikeshaver-miller745 Před 8 měsíci +13

    One of the most fun builds I ever did was an automatic shotguns build. I had a wounding Lazer rifle that I converted to an automatic Shotgun that fired like, ridiculously fast. I used the Hip Fire perk to make the gun more stable and also get some cheeky bonus damage out of it, too. The basher perk is underrated, in my opinion. I play a lot of fast, up close builds and having the extra damage when you bash is amazing. With proper timing, you can knock opponents prone with a bash, leaving them vulnerable for damage. It's huge to also do big damage that way!

  • @noah11115
    @noah11115 Před 10 měsíci +15

    Inspirational is underrated for if you play the automaton dlc at all. The robot companions can have INSANE damage output but you need to be immune for it to be worth it as a playstyle.

  • @americansuperdad5769
    @americansuperdad5769 Před 3 měsíci +9

    When you reach the max level of Medic, one stimpack fills your entire health bar. Combining that with an auto stim piece of armor will save your hind parts often.
    Edit: Also, one Radaway eliminates all Rads.

  • @RAYNE0912
    @RAYNE0912 Před rokem +42

    I agree mostly with the whole list, two perks that I would change are ricochet and mysterious stranger, I would place them at C. They don't add a ton of character power improvement, but the entertainment value is quite high. They're perks I always want to use because they're fun but never end up taking in favor of something more practical. Really annoyed that luck is entirely tied to vats, it should have more use.

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před rokem +8

      That’s totally fair. While Mysterious Stranger didn’t end up being useful on my VATS only run, it was always fun whenever he did show up.

    • @GoodlyData86596
      @GoodlyData86596 Před rokem +3

      The luck stat does effect more things than just vats in fallout 4, to name two, there’s loot tables, and there’s the bat that has a nondescript chance of launching foes sky high with a strike, both have the odds put more in your favor the higher your luck stat is. I’m also pretty sure the only reason they made luck effect the critical hit recharge rate was to give it a tangible effect not based on rng.

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před rokem +7

      @@GoodlyData86596 luck has zero effect on loot tables in fallout 4, unless you are talking about the fortune finder and scrounger perks. It does do have an effect on a few specific things, though, like your chances of getting a perfectly preserved pie, or getting the random encounter Mr. Gutsy to self-destruct.

    • @GoodlyData86596
      @GoodlyData86596 Před rokem +4

      @@SuperTwonky I also think luck effects ricochet’s chance of activating its effects (although at that point you can’t boost its odds much further because it’s a rank 9 perk) and more importantly, effects how often idiot savant triggers like your intelligence stat would, just inversely, which can make idiot savant viable even on high intelligence builds, so I think the devs were trying to make luck effect the nondescript odds as if it effects the stated odds, then luck becomes a huge factor in how viable the perks that give a chance to trigger an effect are, so they tried to not open that balancing can of worms. Shame because it makes luck seem like a non factor in non vats builds, especially because the game never tells you luck effects nondescript odds and lies to you about effecting loot tables (if what you said is true)

    • @demonpride1975
      @demonpride1975 Před 10 měsíci

      is it sad that ever since fallout came out in 1997, i have never used mysterious stranger. not once have i taken it. does it work sure, but i hate the randomness of it.

  • @gregwright615
    @gregwright615 Před 11 měsíci +25

    Great video!
    Gotta say rifleman is S+ tier in my book. It applies to semi auto rifles AND shotguns. One perk, two weapons.

    • @gregwright615
      @gregwright615 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Another reason lead belly isn’t worth it is because you can still get sick from drinking dirty water even if you don’t get the rads.

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před 11 měsíci +12

      If I were to redo the list, I think I would put rifleman at S instead of A.

  • @extestential6638
    @extestential6638 Před 10 dny +7

    Fun fact, lone wanderer perk works with dogmeat

  • @DuckInGameStop
    @DuckInGameStop Před rokem +45

    Thank you for making this!! I started playing Fallout 4 a couple weeks ago and I'm still a complete beginner, and I felt really overwhelmed looking at all the different perks on the screen and trying to figure out which ones would actually be useful. I took some notes while watching this video and I think they'll be really helpful for prioritizing my perks in the future, because so far my leveling up process has just been "ooh this looks kinda cool, I'll get it" haha

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před rokem +6

      Glad you found it helpful!

    • @tedzaleschook
      @tedzaleschook Před rokem +2

      If you want some adivce get the idiot savant perk as soon as you can as it is the best passive perk in the game. It especially shines in crafting, which if you do alot of it will level you up at an astonishing rate. Gun nut and armorer I consider must have perks as well, because they are essential to survival. Scrounger, Lockpick and Hacker are also strong perks because it adds to "problem solving" at times. It is always nice to be able open extra doors, find extra loot, shut down turrets etc.
      Last thought, keep charisma stats high: The better your charisma the better prices you get at vendors ( along with cap collector,) and the easier it is to pursuade people in speach checks. You can double caps inquest rewards if you pass red speach checks. Happy gaming!

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před rokem +14

      @@tedzaleschook I actually don’t recommend going for high charisma for bartering or speech checks. Between charisma clothing and grape mentats (which are very easy to craft), it’s unnecessary. You can pretty easily get by with 3 charisma (for lone wanderer). At just 3 base charisma, you can switch into glasses, hat, and clothes for +4, bringing it to 7. Then take a grape mentats to bring it to 12. That will make you pass every speech check in the game, and get very good prices at stores. And if there is a big ticket item you want, take a Day Tripper to bring charisma to 15. If you’ve picked up a few Junktown Vendor magazines, that will give you the best prices possible, or you can also drink a beer for 16 charisma. Obviously, if there’s a perk further up the Charisma path you want to use, like local leader or inspirational, then go for it. But otherwise, I would put those points elsewhere.

    • @DuckInGameStop
      @DuckInGameStop Před rokem +1

      @@tedzaleschook I was thinking I'd do a lot of intelligence since there's so many useful perks in intelligence, wouldn't that make idiot savant a lot worse because the chance goes down with higher intelligence? And having more intelligence already increases the amount of XP you get, so I was thinking I probably wouldn't need idiot savant for XP

    • @tedzaleschook
      @tedzaleschook Před rokem

      @@SuperTwonky Agreed and I do all of those things above in the early game, However did you know that the number of people you get in your settlements is tied to 10 plus your charisma score? I also simply prefer the natural stat over alot of jury rigging it with chems, etc. But in the end it is a personal play option choice.

  • @veverron
    @veverron Před rokem +1

    Fun vid Twonkster, as usual, keep 'em coming.

  • @androth1502
    @androth1502 Před rokem +35

    been a fan of dogmeat since fallout 1. probably the only companion i'll take consistently in every fallout game where he is available. and it doesn't interfere with lone wanderer.

    • @demonpride1975
      @demonpride1975 Před 10 měsíci +1

      i love dogmeat he's the only companion none companion i use, if that makes any sense.

    • @_You_Are_Not_Him_
      @_You_Are_Not_Him_ Před 11 dny +3

      The only companion that isn't constantly judging you or talking.

  • @Squatch-sj3vg
    @Squatch-sj3vg Před 2 dny

    Nice list man i appreciate your insight. As for lead belly personally it's my most used perk across all my builds for as long as I've been playing lol i like to horde chems and meds so for me I've always looked at it as diversifying my healing strategies. But i never thought it was really any better or worse than most ither perks, gonna go start your melee series man inhope you have a great day

  • @WdoubleyouW
    @WdoubleyouW Před rokem +98

    I know this is a tier list on vanilla fallout 4 but if you are playing a fully hardcore run with low loot and high scarcity, lead belly and Rad Resistant are actually really good perks. Nice vid btw mate

    • @dylanking6960
      @dylanking6960 Před rokem +4

      Damn Apocalypse is a good mod set for hardcore survival runs, and also bumps Locksmith up to S-tier.

    • @demonpride1975
      @demonpride1975 Před 10 měsíci

      i did a run where the only thing i used was doctors and food and water. never rad x rad away and stims, kinda makes survival pointless.

  • @lolniceinreal
    @lolniceinreal Před 8 měsíci +5

    Intimidation is good for firefights with lots of people, as you can basically take out one guy instantly and kill him after

    • @ogrebattler
      @ogrebattler Před 15 dny

      When it comes to that version of it and firefights I recommend only taking two levels of it so you can pacify / make patrol multiple raiders. Unfortunately the third level takes away that option which is annoying

  • @a_catfish5180
    @a_catfish5180 Před rokem +16

    One thing that vans does amazingly is getting perception to 12, 13, or 14 base stat depending on how much you planned for it

    • @maestrofeli4259
      @maestrofeli4259 Před 9 měsíci +1

      only problem is perception sucks lmao but if you are doing a vats build it's ok I guess. Amazing is a word nobody should ever use for VANS

    • @a_catfish5180
      @a_catfish5180 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@maestrofeli4259 I didn’t say it is amazing I said it does one thing amazingly and yes it’s obviously for vats, I know some people play exclusively with it

    • @michaelbyrd1674
      @michaelbyrd1674 Před 3 měsíci

      VANS+NIGHTOWL+Perception10= max perception with no armor slots taken to do it

    • @a_catfish5180
      @a_catfish5180 Před 3 měsíci

      @@michaelbyrd1674 you can also (if I remember correctly) get any stat to 11 using the you’re special book start with 10 in a stat and use clothes or consumables that give negatives in that stat… use the book and then when you take it off or the effect ends you’ll have 11

  • @Fossil08
    @Fossil08 Před rokem +29

    Animal Friend+Wasteland Whisperer is my play style lol. I often pacify animals and then have them attack human or robot enemies. It's how I like to play the game, I like to have those allys

  • @georgemcfadden680
    @georgemcfadden680 Před 10 měsíci +2

    When you talked about what you get in safes that is spot on with what I get every time

  • @WhiteManOnCampus
    @WhiteManOnCampus Před rokem +57

    Personally I'd put Scrounger in A-tier: fusion cores also count as ammunition, so their drop rate is increased with Scrounger. This means, of course, that you can find these incredibly valuable items for your settlements/power armor/gatling laser, or just have really pricy things to sell. With the value of ammunition being pretty high anyway, I'd say even a melee build could benefit from Scrounger just from the side benefits.

    • @christinaedwards5084
      @christinaedwards5084 Před rokem +1

      You can find 4 cores in ammo boxes easily enough with 1 luck and no scrounger perks.
      Scroungers only good if you’re using a .44 magnum early on.

    • @LunarBloodRose27
      @LunarBloodRose27 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Finding 4 mini nukes in ammo boxes on 2 separate occasions made me truly appreciate scrounger in my first/current playthrough

    • @GreenPikmin
      @GreenPikmin Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@LunarBloodRose27 I cant remember if it was fusion cores or mini nukes, but got them from two of the ammo boxes in Kellogg's house one time. Probably my mosf lucky moment.

  • @BastosFC2
    @BastosFC2 Před rokem +14

    Glad to see Fallout 4 still getting some love after all this time

  • @d20initiative
    @d20initiative Před rokem +49

    I personally love high Intelligence builds, and I try to stay at a constant +5 with mentats and chemist, as well as other perks that boost it like night person. What were you thinking for the next playthrough? I would love to see a high INT power armor melee build.

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před rokem +5

      I have a playthrough that I started streaming last year and put on hold, which is trying to get 1 million caps on survival mode. I want to edit the streams into shorter videos and also complete the run. Was also thinking of doing a no-kill survival run, and a permadeath run using the mod that makes all enemies legendary.

    • @BastosFC2
      @BastosFC2 Před rokem +2

      What do you like about high intel exactly ? Getting a bit more XP ? I don't get it

    • @d20initiative
      @d20initiative Před rokem +2

      @@BastosFC2 I’ve grown fond of power armor and drugs in the game, both of which have amazing perks in the intelligence tree. And then seeing just how high I can get it for great XP is awesome. I still spec into luck for scavanger and idiot savant for absolutely insane XP when it triggers.

    • @BastosFC2
      @BastosFC2 Před rokem +1

      @@d20initiative I see, I need to try some interesting perk combination like this more. I usually start a new game with a cool build in mind but always end up with pretty much the same perks everytime (commando, lone wanderer, armorer etc)

    • @d20initiative
      @d20initiative Před rokem +1

      @@BastosFC2 Take a look at his heavy weapons only run, might get inspired from that!

  • @andrewpeli9019
    @andrewpeli9019 Před 14 dny +4

    Lifegiver can be looked at as an income source. The hp generation allows you to avoid using stims, and food which leads to less rads. You can then sell excess stims and rad away for a lot of caps. Lifegiver also is strongest at the beginning of the game when the game is hardest. I think it’s better than most people give it credit for

  • @jjforcebreaker
    @jjforcebreaker Před rokem +4

    Good list and a pleasure to listen to.

  • @eatzombie7281
    @eatzombie7281 Před 17 dny +2

    I’ve watch this tier list like 10 times and I’ve used it for both my survival runs. Thank you sir

  • @NavajoNinja
    @NavajoNinja Před rokem +4

    Last level of Life Giver should be the ability to walk on water. Make JC proud!😅

  • @geigercolten
    @geigercolten Před rokem +2

    This tier list is so well done! Thank you. You a dope ass dude

  • @CoastalKite
    @CoastalKite Před rokem +21

    The man, the myth, the LEGEND is back! This is gonna be a good weekend, I can tell.

  • @kepler_drew853
    @kepler_drew853 Před 11 měsíci

    Great list! I must have at least a thousand hours in fallout 4 and I don't think I'd move a single perk up or down more than a tier from where you placed it

  • @Teadon86
    @Teadon86 Před rokem +2

    Did a build that used scrapper, fortune finder and scrounger. I always had good use of scrapper throughout my gameplay whilst the two others, primarily fortune finder, had a big impact at the beginning which faded the higher levels I reached. The ammunition and caps I found thanks to these perks were overshadowed by the loot I found on even low-tier enemies. The caps from the sales of the loot I used to buy the ammunition I needed, which put the perk scrounger out of use. Although, it is nice to replenish a portion of your ammunition on the go, more so for expensive ammunition, and it is even nicer when you've scrounged so much expensive ammunition you simply have to sell some of it off or stash it for later use.
    My suggestion is to ditch fortune finder and keep scrapper and scrounger if you want a more self-sufficient build.

  • @protojager
    @protojager Před rokem +2

    Pretty fun basic FPS build: Demolitions expert up enough to see grenade arcs, rifleman or commando for your primary, with a little into gunslinger so you can carry a high power secondary like Kellogg's revolver, armorer to improve survivability, gun nut to up your damage, action boy, moving target, quick hands, and steady aim.

  • @vovasyhin7219
    @vovasyhin7219 Před rokem +5

    Demolition expert is so OP it should have its own SSS Tier. When combined with explosive bobble head and Explosive Legendary Effect High DPS Weapons and Shotguns WILL surpass a mini nuke in terms of DPS. The only way to survive a fully upgraded shotgun with said Explosive Legendary Effect with perk and bobble head boost is to have fully upgraded armor with Ballistic Weave MK5 and armor add-ons that reduce explosive damage by 75%, otherwise you will kill your self often!

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před rokem +1

      I don’t know if I rank it quite as highly as you, but in hindsight, demolition expert should have been S tier instead of A.

  • @chewy99.
    @chewy99. Před 13 dny +3

    I can kinda rely on wasteland whisperer q good amount, it’s pretty fun to get a bunch of creatures on your side to fight for you, and if you want their drops or xp anyways, you can just kill them without them attacking you.

  • @rm2569
    @rm2569 Před rokem +13

    For unarmed, i highly recommend using the Unarmed gameplay overhaul and SLIDE KICK mod. It allows you to do counter animations with unarmed at will by blocking and attacking. It makes it feel really different and cool from melee.
    Also, demo expert and heavy gunner combo together.

  • @SwissSauce
    @SwissSauce Před 6 dny +2

    i'm late, and this was a great vid, but you should try getting footage to play in the background for each perk you talk about! it'd make it way more engaging and you can drive points home much easier with related gameplay

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před 6 dny +1

      If I do another tier list video like this for Fallout 4, there are definitely improvements I plan on making!

    • @SwissSauce
      @SwissSauce Před 5 dny

      @@SuperTwonky i WILL be watching!

  • @phatlokki
    @phatlokki Před 5 dny +1

    Hey, thanks for taking the time, and sharing your experiences in this video. Im getting back into fallout. Im making a lone wanderer, rifle, critical banker luck build. I was fairly confident in my planned build. After seeing this though im going to shuffle around a few points and probably won't invest as heavily into four leaf clover lol. I thought that combined with reaper sprint i would have lots of crits banked all the time. What do you think?

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před 5 dny +1

      Sounds pretty strong to me. My experience doing a VATS only run was that grim reaper’s sprint is insanely good, especially at rank 3. I don’t remember four leaf clover doing a whole lot, since grim reaper’s sprint typically had me covered. It is also possible I was a tad too conservative with how often I used crits. It is probably worth putting one point into four leaf clover, though, to have more effects like that early, but ranks 2-4 don’t increase the percentage by that much.

    • @phatlokki
      @phatlokki Před 5 dny

      So clover is every vats hit gives u a chance to fill crit. Reaper is every kill gives u chance to restore action points, continueing vats. Action girl so i can vats more. Crit banker so i was hoping if high enough clover would proc multiple times going well with banker. Then obviously better criticals. That was the idea anyways. Ive never made a luck focused build b4 tho. Guess i gotta see how it goes lol.

  • @DanielFlores-tl5vu
    @DanielFlores-tl5vu Před 4 měsíci +2

    Wasteland whisperer is incredible when you can literally convert yao guai and deathclaws to fight for you even synths if i remember right

  • @MarlowPreston
    @MarlowPreston Před rokem +1

    Think you might do a build tier list at some point?
    And the practicality of stuff like building around stuff that need random drops like Unyielding armor in Survival with Bloodied weapons or using Junkie's weapons, ect.
    Or even with fixed stuff stuff like the Spray n' Pray or Robes of Atom's Devoted for a max irradiated build.

  • @BboySquidfoot
    @BboySquidfoot Před rokem +1

    Good list, thank you for sharing!

  • @willomalley7619
    @willomalley7619 Před 8 měsíci +4

    You should do a run using only d and f tier perks here. Good assessment overall I would say. I mainly avoid chems and vats which turns off two major power boosts in the game.

  • @lesser8531
    @lesser8531 Před 8 měsíci +11

    I think Night Person deserves a C at least. It doesn't look very impressive at first, but there's a ton of synergy for a stealthy VATS build. You are harder to detect at night and the perk bonuses incentivize you to make use of that. The night vision effect is quite nice since the Pip-Boy light will reveal your position, but if you really don't like it, a case can be made for just the first rank. My last two full Survival playthroughs were built around Night Person and they were a ton of fun.
    Don't bother with the third rank though. You need to be level 37 to get it and you already have like 350 health with just one Endurance at that point. An extra 30 health is pretty bone-headed for a stealth build, should have been AP instead.

  • @PotatoeGod
    @PotatoeGod Před 2 měsíci +2

    1:56
    A bonus for it is that it also increases rad damage on a weopon like Atoms Glory

  • @protojager
    @protojager Před rokem +2

    Mr. Sandman is the scoundrel's friend, good for sneakily killing friendly NPCs inside towns and settlements for nefarious purposes.

  • @connycontainer9459
    @connycontainer9459 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Played for the first time this week, with tons of mods, cause why not. Took lead belly as one of the first because water and nuka cola were so expensive. Now I'm running around with multiple infections and a tapeworm, because radiation isn't the only hazard in surface water.
    Vans is really good though, just finding the right door in these dungeon like quest areas or finding the right person to speak to without getting spoiled by internet guides is a godsend.

  • @coolperson5479
    @coolperson5479 Před rokem +44

    You should do a damage less run curious to see what build you would use to survive it all the way through.

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před rokem +6

      That’s something I’m hoping to try this year.

    • @michaelweiske702
      @michaelweiske702 Před rokem +3

      Depends of what you mean by damage less:
      A) if you mean you cannot deal damage, then any perks that increase damage or upgrade your ability to increase damage would be useless, and any perks that increase survivability and stealth would be preferred along with a high charisma to avoid some encounters
      B) if you mean you cannot take damage, then any perks that give increased resistance or upgrade your ability to resist damage would be useless, and any perks that increase your stealth and damage would be preferred.
      In either case, the stealth build has you covered if you can pull it off, just a different playstyle for each run.

  • @capncrunchfan255
    @capncrunchfan255 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Fun Fact if you have Dogmeat as your companion Lone Wanderer is still active

  • @daniellee8162
    @daniellee8162 Před rokem +3

    Chem resistant, though I do agree with you, I find it useful solely because of how convenient it is.

  • @kylesmith4173
    @kylesmith4173 Před rokem +3

    I found heavy weapons and explosives expert pair nicely for when you want to be sure to just delete whatever is in front of you.

  • @bacd-nn2lg
    @bacd-nn2lg Před rokem +3

    I am suprised to see on how similar our ranking is on this tier list. Ghoulish is pretty good perk if you combine it with high intelligence boosting perks, sneak rifleman, wearing Children of Atom clothes like Inquisitors Cowl, and Robes of Atom's Devoted (those clothes is the most broken item in a game that you will get radiation immunity at one point, and you can even heal to full health). With this build finished completed I was getting crazy amount of XP. The only negative side is not being able to see your hp bar on the screen,b tu you can still see it in your pip-boy.

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před rokem

      I find Ghoulish to be counterproductive to using a child of Atom build. When wearing the robes, you want to just stay at 900 rads. That means the early ranks of ghoulish don’t do anything, since you aren’t gaining more rads (at 900 the robes make you immune), and the final rank of ghoulish isn’t good because you’ll start healing radiation which is the opposite of what you want, especially if you are using the Inquisitor of Atom perk.

    • @lookimlost
      @lookimlost Před rokem

      He said it he can't calculate the di
      Pps on one its too much for him ..... sadly that's the way his works it happens tho he made it this far from his own .........let's give it to him brotha dnt do it to him now he just "made it

  • @seamushayday1222
    @seamushayday1222 Před 4 měsíci

    In survival mode, mysterious stranger has saved my bacon on a few occasions

  • @lance134679
    @lance134679 Před rokem +3

    This is pretty close to how I'd rank these perks, although I like Aquaboy a lot, especially on Survival. Next, do a run with all the worst perks. 😄

  • @marko_23410
    @marko_23410 Před rokem +4

    EARLYYYYYYY !!!!! AWESOME VIDEO AS ALWAYS .LOVE TO SEE YOUR POSTS . KEEP IT UP !!!!!!!

  • @BadekHWDP
    @BadekHWDP Před 11 měsíci +4

    I'd argue for Ghoulish as this very perk saved my ass multiple times fighting with atom child, robots or any other opponents with radiation explosives. You basically can't die from nuka grenades nor radiation explosive of robots. Never tested it against bigboy, so it's kinda situational but for me it's B tier especially when some ghouls stops to attack you and you can lead them to attack another factions

  • @MistaOppritunity
    @MistaOppritunity Před 11 měsíci +1

    With Richochet, it doesn't need to happen consistently enough to kill almost every enemy, it just needs to take one or two people out in a fight. Which I've used it before and it felt like it did pretty much every large gun fight. In general I think spreading your perks out thin in luck is a lot of fun and pretty effective. If you place bets everywhere one of them will hit. And it varies the way you kick ass.

  • @MegaGeministar
    @MegaGeministar Před 5 dny +1

    Lead Belly: agree! Never need it, so much purified water and cooked meat mean i never use it on Survival mode
    Aqua Boy/Girl: i think S tier on Survival, especially if you play permadeath, removes all those random spawns if you travel everywhere by water, especially once you activate the Rust Devil spawns
    Chemist (Refreshing Beverage, Antibiotics, Poison Caltrops), Lone Wanderer and Aqua Boy/Girl are always my first choices when playing Survival mode.

  • @peacefulrevolution3390
    @peacefulrevolution3390 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Hey, great video, if you decide to redo it ever, it would be nice to have some minimal description of what the perk does included with the ranking. A lot of the perks you named I was not too sure what their benefit was ....

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před 9 měsíci +3

      I am kinda wishing I’d taken extra time to put the perk descriptions from the wiki on the screen.

  • @tedzaleschook
    @tedzaleschook Před rokem +3

    Pretty solid list, and i wont quibble about some of your choices because the value of a particular perk be tied to your play style and character build. Idiot Savant I regard as a must have perk so much so it is one of the first perks I take.

  • @tylerward4386
    @tylerward4386 Před 9 měsíci

    Here ya go people. I play almost exclusively on survival so these should be geared more that way. Rad scrubbers in power armor (you can just carry an extra helmet if you really care that much). Hazmat suit will solve all rad issues like swimming and mirelurk cakes can solve water breathing. Just take strong back and trade carry weight for convenience in the mid game.

  • @cheesemoon6319
    @cheesemoon6319 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Can I know the name of the songs used in this video? They're all very good.

  • @Mall_man_
    @Mall_man_ Před 10 dny +2

    Party boy with a strength melee build is as crazy as it sounds in your head

  • @44WarmocK77
    @44WarmocK77 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Science and Gun Nut are my personal bread&butter perks, not a single build where I do not use them since I do a ton of (modded) settlement building all the time. And as a VATS/sniper/sneaky silenced weapon addict: Critical Banker, Ninja and Mister Sandman for the win! ^^

  • @willblizard3610
    @willblizard3610 Před 9 dny +3

    Blacksmith should be an easy A tier since it unlocks the robot mods as well. imo more useful since the bleed robot does the most damage, than just melee mods in general.

  • @trentonthomas3127
    @trentonthomas3127 Před 9 dny +2

    Chem resistant is huge if your a jet addict like me who likes to spend the whole combat in slow motion without consequences

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před 9 dny

      Alternatively, you could craft up a bunch of jet fuel, and always be on that so you don’t experience any withdrawal effects of jet addiction 😁

  • @uncannyvalley3190
    @uncannyvalley3190 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I haven’t played vanilla Fallout in years. I had totally forgotten that perks like Commando and Rifleman increase weapon damage and not just hipfire or armor pen 😂

  • @copper4eva
    @copper4eva Před 10 měsíci +7

    One thing I don't see mentioned is attack dog, lone wanderer, and pack alpha all stack. So together you get pretty good damage reduction percentage.

  • @samd2013
    @samd2013 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Ricochet and Mysterious Stranger are perks that in my survival runs have sometimes been the reason why I didn’t die after not saving after awhile and losing valuable progress lol. Yes it’s true that in most cases it’s random and happens when you don’t need them, but every now and then I’m almost dead on my last leg and am about to die and someone ricochets and dies with the bullet that would’ve killed me and sometimes an enemy that will kill me and I’m struggling to hurt them in VATS gets killed by the mysterious stranger. For these reasons I have to put them in the B/A tier range. It really does feel like your character gets lucky sometimes.

  • @timmyingelbrecht6977
    @timmyingelbrecht6977 Před 8 měsíci

    When the world needed him most, he dissapeared

  • @technicolorskies5432
    @technicolorskies5432 Před rokem +6

    With the awareness perk you can tell the difference between a human and a gen 3 synth

    • @milkmonstrosity
      @milkmonstrosity Před rokem +1

      *THIS CLAIM IS DISPUTED*

    • @technicolorskies5432
      @technicolorskies5432 Před rokem

      @@milkmonstrosity it works for the random encounter where the guy is holding himself up, (I think his name is Art). That's the single time I remember it being useful

    • @MarkJones-gt2qd
      @MarkJones-gt2qd Před rokem +2

      @@technicolorskies5432 Weirdly, the synth in that encounter is pretty obviously a synth. One guy talks about his family, the other himself.

  • @moonman5496
    @moonman5496 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Scrounger is A-S tier because sometimes you can find an insane amount of cores inside ammo boxes. I’ve gotten like 6 in one once

    • @SuperTwonky
      @SuperTwonky  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Cores actually aren’t affected by Scrounger. You will find cores randomly in ammo boxes without it. You can tell fusion cores aren’t affected by scrounger because will never find then in non-ammo box containers like desks or file cabinets.

    • @VeRNal_FunGUs-mh5tv
      @VeRNal_FunGUs-mh5tv Před dnem

      @@SuperTwonky I've found ammo in desk, bureau etc

  • @sandyr5407
    @sandyr5407 Před 9 měsíci +2

    2:31 You don't need Armorer to make Ballistic Weave mods. You *do* need it for Ballistic Weave mods past Level 1, though (offers more protection). I'm sure that's what you really meant, but I wanted to clear that up for any newcomers.

  • @coolcat2324
    @coolcat2324 Před 2 dny

    Needed this.

  • @SmEiF-
    @SmEiF- Před 9 měsíci

    I am gonna do a survival run with a 10 luck and 0 intelligence 10 strength build. Then do a pure vats luck build in survival. Love the info gonna help alot

  • @mattwilliams7454
    @mattwilliams7454 Před 2 měsíci

    Im glad you touched on how overpowered a vats build can be. With a pistol build, gun fu maxed out and grim reaper sprint, its just constant crits

  • @MRGTR-94
    @MRGTR-94 Před 10 měsíci

    Nice video thanks for the tips and your insight 👍
    What build has been your most enjoyable, and do you always play survival?

  • @unhingedsonus8249
    @unhingedsonus8249 Před 7 dny +1

    Personally the only time i’ve ever been able to justify using cannibal is when traveling with Strong. One of the only ways to level up his affinity easily to get his perk.

  • @reagansido5823
    @reagansido5823 Před 8 měsíci +1

    so I've really just been making the game harder on myself by taking the lone wanderer perk AND taking no companions, including dogmeat.
    sure is nice that the perk just has a silent exception to it.

  • @Shwa_Shwa42
    @Shwa_Shwa42 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I feel fortune finder might be a bit better than you think, 1 less in luck to take for non-vats focused builds, and if you take it and lvl it early on it completely fixes money issues without needing a cheesy exploit or selling caltrops. Much more containers can spawn bottle caps than ammo, making it similar to scrounger in value. Still not an amazing or even great perk.

  • @logivilhjalmur2984
    @logivilhjalmur2984 Před 4 dny

    i think max life giver is one of the best perks in fallout 4. mainly because of the max rank slowly healing health. in survival because of how expensive stimpaks are and how rare they are it saves you SO much time and money finding or buying them.

  • @MrSgoudreau76
    @MrSgoudreau76 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Upgraded Pickmans's knife is crazy with the bleed damage.

  • @briankenney9528
    @briankenney9528 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Penetrator is good against robots because you can hit the combat inhibitor or fusion core and deal lots of damage even from the front

  • @williamray4512
    @williamray4512 Před rokem

    This list was very solid

  • @FlourEater
    @FlourEater Před 3 měsíci +1

    I have it simple.. I am still playing my one character that I´ve started when I first installed F4...currently lvl 136 and having most of them, all stats 10. Feels like when by the end of F2 you acquire the book.

  • @adamndirtyape
    @adamndirtyape Před 7 měsíci

    Mysterious Stranger is actually relatively useless but still always hilarious when he does show up.

  • @archmagemc3561
    @archmagemc3561 Před rokem

    Inspirational is great if your running robot companions like ADA. You can run all the FF weapons and they just tear through enemies regardless of their accuracy and do no damage to you.

  • @UnloadedRex
    @UnloadedRex Před 10 měsíci

    I usually either run a sneaky build with the Chinese stealth suit or a power armor build so armorer would be much lower for me

  • @pvrhye
    @pvrhye Před 3 dny

    One point of medic right at the start seems to me to mean I'm accumulating stimpacks faster than I lose them.