Cycling’s Billion Dollar Races - The Fascinating World Of Japanese Keirin

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  • čas přidán 17. 11. 2018
  • Whilst in Japan, Jon checked out the biggest form of bike racing in the nation, Keirin Racing, a sport where ¥1.3trillion Yen are bet each year! An event where tradition is central, we take a look at what makes Japanese Keirin racing so special...
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  • @gcn
    @gcn  Před 5 lety +272

    Did you know Keirin was so huge in Japan?! Let us know what you think of the sport.

    • @BlueDiamondStar
      @BlueDiamondStar Před 5 lety +6

      I first learned about this sport in the last summer Olympics. I thought it was trek all the way but then they said keirin and I was immediately on Google looking up.
      Now I'm just stunned. I had no idea it's so strict in Japan. It simply amazes me.
      It's rather fascinating. Thanks for the video

    • @AccFinEco
      @AccFinEco Před 5 lety +4

      Heard about it several years ago when l vistied a friend in Japan.
      I have been hooked since!!

    • @godwindracing6056
      @godwindracing6056 Před 5 lety +12

      Get Emma to do the women's race

    • @madmonkeycycling9098
      @madmonkeycycling9098 Před 5 lety +5

      yes, you should have taken a look at their training regimen, it's pretty brutal :)

    • @stevenqirkle
      @stevenqirkle Před 5 lety +2

      I had no idea... and I live here! Awesome video!

  • @ankushmenat
    @ankushmenat Před 5 lety +1939

    "Anything that involves a trillion is certainly a great deal of money"
    *laughs in Zimbabwe*

    • @leon19951209
      @leon19951209 Před 5 lety +39

      Comment of the week please

    • @Jaybird-vy7oh
      @Jaybird-vy7oh Před 5 lety +18

      Have you randomly gotten that ad talking about the Zimbabwe 100 trillion bank note too?

    • @stephentuthill4598
      @stephentuthill4598 Před 5 lety +16

      I remember a radio Station having a game where people could win a million one year, all they had to do was to select a number box... The trick was that you didn't know what currency was in that box, so if you chose the right box you could win a lot of money... But if you chose the wrong box all you got was a few pence!!

    • @paulstephens1513
      @paulstephens1513 Před 5 lety +8

      Dirk Gently - Trillion - i was expecting a Douglas Adams reference!

    • @costa97vm
      @costa97vm Před 5 lety +5

      Venezuelans laugh too, I'm from Argentina, in 5 years from now we will be laughing too hahaha

  • @avq5
    @avq5 Před 5 lety +1213

    Was hoping to see at least one lap of them actually racing rather than clips of them hanging around the track and walking their bikes around.

    • @ZNotFound
      @ZNotFound Před 5 lety +94

      He probably wasn't allowed to show a full race for whatever reason.

    • @markconnelly1806
      @markconnelly1806 Před 5 lety +11

      You might like: czcams.com/video/qxze08tCoCA/video.html

    • @Greippi10
      @Greippi10 Před 4 lety +37

      The "montage" at the end was so disappointing. They build up for some exciting moments! Here we go! They're Off--- and yeah here they are walking their bikes back inside goodbye plzsubscribe.
      I wish they'd at least say the reason if they weren't allowed to show it instead of that stupid bait.

    • @TwoDogsFighting
      @TwoDogsFighting Před 4 lety +2

      @@Greippi10 I think a montage has to be more than 5 seconds long.

    • @tams805
      @tams805 Před 4 lety +1

      @@markconnelly1806 Notice how that's a recording of a TV? If that video becomes popular, I'm willing to bet that it gets copyright striked.

  • @romaincondat6332
    @romaincondat6332 Před 5 lety +632

    Showing the bikes more closly and a complete 2minutes race would have complete this interesting episode

    • @markgrenier6787
      @markgrenier6787 Před 5 lety +1

      It was just fine...

    • @yellowlightingbolt
      @yellowlightingbolt Před 3 lety +3

      Agreed, wanted to see a race too but that is what CZcams is for I guess.

    • @tom4626
      @tom4626 Před 3 lety

      @@markgrenier6787 yer it was fine ..... I'm sure what GCN wanted.

    • @KandiKlover
      @KandiKlover Před 3 lety

      Also lot of keirin does use a motorbike still. It was only different at this specific velodrome he was in.

    • @godwindracing6056
      @godwindracing6056 Před rokem +1

      They can now be watched live on YT

  • @ostrovangrinder
    @ostrovangrinder Před 5 lety +577

    Nice video, but I am missing some interesting facts. You can race, if you have a permit, and to have that you have to go through Keirin academy. One of the exams is to unfold and re build your bike in exact oder on time. It is sport for Japanese cyclists, and about 6 invited individuals from around the globe. As you mentioned, people bet on the cyclists. You have to anounce your tactics in advance and stick to it (example Senko - long sprint, Oikomi - short sprint). Winner have to give small present to other cyclist in the race (bottle of energy drink...). Looking for next epizode :)

    • @Alex-vq9vj
      @Alex-vq9vj Před 5 lety +27

      This is fascinating info, thanks Petr! 👍🏻

    • @TheSteinbitt
      @TheSteinbitt Před 5 lety +4

      @John More fascist than the Axis powers. Oh wait...

    • @ZeroSeriesMMX
      @ZeroSeriesMMX Před 5 lety +2

      Ahh crap, arubatsuru (albatross) -- like what happens in Japanese golf, when you score a hole-in-one, IIRC.

    • @baranybumm
      @baranybumm Před 4 lety

      Gajins can go to this Keirin Academy?

    • @Andrew-rs6cb
      @Andrew-rs6cb Před 4 lety +1

      baranybumm in theory but foreign athletes usually do a two-month course and then appear in special races (and they almost always thrash the Japanese racers)

  • @TheWaxChainFanClub
    @TheWaxChainFanClub Před 5 lety +455

    Top class currency conversion.

  • @TheWaxChainFanClub
    @TheWaxChainFanClub Před 5 lety +189

    This was classic tv documentary standard coverage in terms of production, content and presentation. Truly impressive.
    Thanks Jon.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Před 5 lety +11

      Not quite sure how to respond to such a genuinely nice comment. Are you feeling ok Michael?

    • @JonCannings
      @JonCannings Před 5 lety +2

      Cheers

    • @TheWaxChainFanClub
      @TheWaxChainFanClub Před 5 lety +15

      @@gcn Don't get me wrong, it's no excuse for wearing two watches like a nutcase.

    • @willeigo8468
      @willeigo8468 Před 5 lety

      Global Cycling Network i just chimed in above in the same manner before seeing McDermott comment. Frankly, Emma is excellent, Oscar is talented but you ( and I must presume your travel production team ) furnished a cracking cracking piece.

    • @FazioliJapan
      @FazioliJapan Před 5 lety

      Umm, perhaps it was a Japanese production team this time?

  • @brucebrucestofiston5554
    @brucebrucestofiston5554 Před 5 lety +358

    I still miss the old boys banter but the content your putting out lately is large budget tv show quality.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Před 5 lety +20

      Thanks Simon! Glad you're enjoying it. We certainly have a lot of fun making it!

  • @manueldeubler1127
    @manueldeubler1127 Před 5 lety +16

    One of the best videos on keirin racing in Japan on CZcams. The bikes are jaw dropping and the heritage of the sport is completly different from what we see in the western world.

  • @HAKUTAI5
    @HAKUTAI5 Před 5 lety +178

    Once a month, you can ride your bike on the velodrome when bicycle association opens the track for everyone.
    The pavement is quite smooth and the speed you carry is higher than outside road.
    Of cause the scenery is boring, but you can concentrate on riding, So, It is fun to ride a bike there and I think you will feel like keeping riding as long as you can.

    • @UenoLocker54
      @UenoLocker54 Před 5 lety +5

      That's awesome.

    • @HAKUTAI5
      @HAKUTAI5 Před 5 lety +17

      @@UenoLocker54 it is like this -> czcams.com/video/-P0-iYVg638/video.html
      You can experience keirin racing with your friends and others.
      Both free and fixed gear are allowed.
      And if you want, you can do 500 m and/or 1km time trial.
      Anyway I want to see GCN members race keirin. it would be fun to watch

    • @HAKUTAI5
      @HAKUTAI5 Před 5 lety +17

      @John Thank you for your nice comment, you save people from painful misconception.

    • @tams805
      @tams805 Před 4 lety +4

      @John No need for the snark. They're clearly Japanese and aren't fluent in English. I think we might just be able to give them a break, don'tcha think?

    • @KandiKlover
      @KandiKlover Před 3 lety

      Nice. I will ride my touring bike around it hehehehe

  • @mattchung1
    @mattchung1 Před 5 lety +74

    NJS.. the holy grail of fixed gear bikes. Please show more of the bikes they are absolutely beautiful.

    • @kevinvermeer9011
      @kevinvermeer9011 Před 5 lety +6

      I thought they looked rather uninspiring. Nothing aerodynamic or shapely, super shallow rims, old-fashioned gumwall tires...looks like something you'd find abandoned in the back of someone's shed. It hurts a bit knowing they could have made everyone a good deal faster if they just updated the spec once or twice in the last several decades.

    • @mattchung1
      @mattchung1 Před 5 lety +34

      @@kevinvermeer9011 everyone has their own preferences. It's like comparing a classic sports car to a modern one. Sure you are going faster in the new car but you would be having just as much fun driving the classic. Besides, NJS is a standard to ensure fair racing so riders don't get unfair advantage in equipment. NJS also happens to have very strict quality standards which is why it is converted for fixed gear bikes.

    • @ChillOutDood
      @ChillOutDood Před 5 lety +3

      Matt C correct, agreed.

    • @connieback7577
      @connieback7577 Před 5 lety +1

      I wanted more info about the bike. I guess I can look it up. :(

    • @milchkopf3881
      @milchkopf3881 Před 5 lety +11

      @@kevinvermeer9011 i'd really like to be polite. but please kevin... just go home.
      those bikes are beautiful exactly how they are and there are reasons for that. but i don't care enough to explain them to you.

  • @DSP_Visuals
    @DSP_Visuals Před 5 lety +83

    One of the managers at my company has a brother who does Keirin racing. She described him a "human horse that people bet on".

    • @lordalfa600
      @lordalfa600 Před 5 lety +9

      At least he doesn't become horse meat at the end of the career. Sadly most race horses end up that way.

    • @qtheplatypus
      @qtheplatypus Před 5 lety

      Ive watched that anime :)

    • @joshuarosen6242
      @joshuarosen6242 Před 5 lety +6

      @@lordalfa600 That doesn't sound any worse than most other ways of meat farming to me.

    • @tams805
      @tams805 Před 4 lety +3

      I do get the feeling that's how they are treated. I think it's the lack of fans that do it, so they end up objectified.
      However, he probably earns more than her and has more free time to not be an object.

    • @godwindracing6056
      @godwindracing6056 Před rokem

      ​@@tams805sounds like women's keirin in its early years (the 2010s) when the JKA tried to market them like idols

  • @richardhaselwood9478
    @richardhaselwood9478 Před 5 lety +72

    Thanks guys, this was genuinely interesting. Super interesting different racing culture.

    • @JonCannings
      @JonCannings Před 5 lety +3

      Glad you liked it

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Před 5 lety +4

      Glad you enjoyed it Richard! We found it fascinating too.

    • @richardhaselwood9478
      @richardhaselwood9478 Před 5 lety +2

      @@JonCannings Probably the most interesting thing is the parallel's with horse racing....

  • @kurtandrews6888
    @kurtandrews6888 Před 5 lety +30

    I have been there and watched some races (without betting) and I found it interesting because they do not want anyone to be consistently the be the fastest and there is no age limit. As long as you are competitive in your given category (and there many) you can race well into your fifty's. Some of the lower categories (with higher ages) the speeds are very modest. The highest category is where you will see foreigners come in for a special event series (by invitation only).

    • @Le_Petomane
      @Le_Petomane Před 5 lety +2

      Thats pretty interesting and indicative or Japanese culture all at once, thanks.

  • @dumbbellenjoyer
    @dumbbellenjoyer Před 5 lety +573

    Those guys living together must not have a Keirin the world.

  • @TheWaxChainFanClub
    @TheWaxChainFanClub Před 5 lety +60

    Jon was so excited to get to the Keirin, he just stormed out a blood pressure test.

    • @willeigo8468
      @willeigo8468 Před 5 lety +3

      And Jon almost bumped his head on the low ceiling. I went to cycle in Fukuoka last month. Now that I have been cycling in Japan: I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese , I really think so.”

    • @Le_Petomane
      @Le_Petomane Před 5 lety

      The fuck are you gammons talking about?

    • @Voyajer.
      @Voyajer. Před 5 lety

      @@Le_Petomane czcams.com/video/IWWwM2wwMww/video.html

  • @backyardmachinist
    @backyardmachinist Před 5 lety +4

    This has been my favorite video from GCN in a good while. Well done, Jon. Please make more videos like this!

  • @Freakysantana
    @Freakysantana Před 5 lety +246

    GCN, basically explaining that the pound is down.....alot.

    • @DRANVR4
      @DRANVR4 Před 5 lety +2

      lol

    • @daltonbedore8396
      @daltonbedore8396 Před 5 lety +3

      or the Yen is up🤔

    • @sudduthaaron
      @sudduthaaron Před 5 lety

      Which is why I’ve recently purchased most of my bike build from Sigma Sports!

    • @psychoaiko666
      @psychoaiko666 Před 5 lety +3

      @@daltonbedore8396 I think you've forgotten about brexit than. The pound is down and it won't be getting up anytime soon.

    • @stephengowins1573
      @stephengowins1573 Před 5 lety +2

      No a thousand yen is $10 usa so. 10,000 yen is $100. The a trillion is like 900 mil. Close to a billion

  • @Altimis
    @Altimis Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you GCN, this probably the best of Japanese Keirin explains video ever. Very details.

  • @ProjectMayhem44
    @ProjectMayhem44 Před 5 lety +1

    I've always wondered about Keirin so I appreciated this very informative segment. Hope you guys had fun in Japan. Keep up the great work!

  • @teespeck3285
    @teespeck3285 Před 5 lety +13

    I LOVED this video!! Thanks for covering Japanese cycling!!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Před 5 lety +1

      Cheers Tee!

  • @jacobjingleheimer
    @jacobjingleheimer Před 5 lety +5

    fantastic documentary vid! long overdue for gcn.

  • @thelifeofodd4908
    @thelifeofodd4908 Před 5 lety

    Such a great episode. I've always been curious about Keirin racing. Thank you GCN.

  • @RevOwOlutionary
    @RevOwOlutionary Před 2 lety +4

    Those bikes are absolutely stunning. I can't even imagine how skilled the builders must be considering they've had such a long time to perfect their craft on the same frame designs rather than constantly having to move onwards to the next innovation.

  • @hanswurst7727
    @hanswurst7727 Před 5 lety +3

    thank you gcn. super interesting, a joy to watch.

  • @steppings5645
    @steppings5645 Před 5 lety +24

    Best content as usual JC. Really fascinating and traditional sport.

  • @dougwedel9484
    @dougwedel9484 Před 5 lety +2

    I never heard about this kind of racing before today. Thanks so much for sharing!

  • @zxvk
    @zxvk Před 4 lety +2

    I loved their colour co-ordinated kit! Thanks for such enthusiastic presentation bringing interest to the video.

  • @bhumiriady
    @bhumiriady Před 5 lety +3

    Fantastic video as always!
    This is so fascinating and awesome! As someone who is fascinated in Japan, Keirin truly amazes me! This video made me know more about the Keirin.

  • @jlebad2308
    @jlebad2308 Před 5 lety +13

    I love their bikes, classy threaded stems and lovely Japanese steel tubing

    • @carythompson1147
      @carythompson1147 Před 5 lety

      James Le Bas absolutely one of Keirin's main attractions!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Před 5 lety +3

      Gorgeous, aren't they?

    • @jlebad2308
      @jlebad2308 Před 5 lety +1

      @@gcn Love the channel, I own a Fuji feather fixed gear myself and would love to see more fixed gear related videos👍

    • @edwardlunn6975
      @edwardlunn6975 Před 5 lety +1

      Will we get to see more of the racing? I own two road bikes a 91' Miyata 914 upgraded with STI shifters, and a stock bar the tires and tubes 85' Panasonic DX5000, also a 79' Miyata 1000LE touring bike. All made in Japan, exceptional build quality. Miyatas Splined Triple Butted tubing, stiffest steel tubing I have ever ridden! Fantastic stuff!

    • @MyDemon32
      @MyDemon32 Před 4 lety

      @@edwardlunn6975 Hey i have a Panasonic too DX2500 from '87 to be exact.

  • @rominhoferrari
    @rominhoferrari Před 5 lety

    Absolutely amazing! Grats for the documentary!

  • @gehteuchnixan7258
    @gehteuchnixan7258 Před 5 lety +1

    Keirin is action packed and the result is settled within 5 minutes. I like watching it every now and then.

  • @rmatsumotoo
    @rmatsumotoo Před 5 lety +8

    @GCN love this video! so glad you guys featured Japanese Keirin! Good to see my home country featured in GCN video :)
    FYI, all Keirin bikes are made of steel for safety reason (steels bend, carbon/aluminum shatter and possible it could injure athletes with shattered pieces) since crash and bail is really common because of head/shoulder/elbow bumping (also to help frame builder businesses as well)

    • @joturner3259
      @joturner3259 Před 5 lety +1

      It's true. So many people in the US are still riding old made in Japan Fuji or Miyata steel bikes. I doubt many of the carbon bikes on the road today will still be around in 30 years. The thing I really like though is that the keirin bikes are still made by Japanese builders. If other countries had made similar rules for their races, maybe people in europe & the US would still be building bikes too instead of just having everything made in for them in Taiwan & China.

  • @BikeItUK
    @BikeItUK Před 5 lety +6

    Great report, interesting about the NJS stamp of approval and how Campagnolo has only once managed to get a group set approved. Good to see the steel still being raced and what a sea of racing kit colours. Japan one of the best places I've visited, well worth a visit. Thanks again for another great video. Andy

  • @duncanvardy5009
    @duncanvardy5009 Před 5 lety

    Absolutely fascinating. One of the best GCN videos.

  • @virgilfulton4426
    @virgilfulton4426 Před 5 lety

    This was my favorite GCN story of 2018. A fascinating look into the world of Keirin racing.

  • @AccFinEco
    @AccFinEco Před 5 lety +8

    Great vid, love Japan's Keirin racing! ❤

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Před 5 lety +2

      It's so cool, huh?

  • @Dinief
    @Dinief Před 5 lety +122

    more track bike /fixed gear video 😁

    • @TheM4Dr1Zz
      @TheM4Dr1Zz Před 5 lety +8

      shut up weeb

    • @brianmessemer2973
      @brianmessemer2973 Před 5 lety +13

      Why would you try to silence and insult someone in a comment section? That's just silly. Enjoy the videos and be a happy person. @@TheM4Dr1Zz

    •  Před 5 lety +6

      Yes please! I really enjoy fixed gear stuff

    • @marktatarinoff7372
      @marktatarinoff7372 Před 5 lety +6

      Agreed, more track content required.

  • @matthewwong5063
    @matthewwong5063 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks so much for the awesome video. Always wanted to know more about keirin since koichi nakano used to rule the professional Sprint world championships.

  • @Brian-Gibbs
    @Brian-Gibbs Před 5 lety

    I never raced in Japan, but I loved racing keirins. Back in my day, we were still physical. Nowadays, it's so mild.
    Thanks for the tour.

  • @leedorney
    @leedorney Před 5 lety +7

    That was great - getting to know about Keirin racing...!

  • @monachusTV1
    @monachusTV1 Před 5 lety +2

    I absolutely loved it ! Great video ! More Fixed Gear / Track cycling content please :)

  • @beeble2003
    @beeble2003 Před 5 lety +1

    Really fantastic video. I knew so little about keirin that I didn't even know there was a whole lot to know. And now I want to go to Japan again...

  • @maxgonzalez214
    @maxgonzalez214 Před 5 lety +2

    Great show guys, you just keep getting better

  • @danl2294
    @danl2294 Před 5 lety +3

    Didn't think this video would be something i would have liked. But i really enjoyed watching it and it was truely fascinating. Good job gcn

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Před 5 lety

      Glad to hear it dan!

  • @mxkstfmk
    @mxkstfmk Před 5 lety +4

    I wish we could have seen more of the racing! Like an entire race with commentary.

  • @KelseyLeighV
    @KelseyLeighV Před 5 lety

    This is amazing and fascinating. I love the deep traditions embedded in the sport. Thank you for this inside look GCN!

  • @redbirdsaraceno
    @redbirdsaraceno Před 5 lety

    thats cool you guys chose this topic , i had completely forget about this form of racing id seen in magazines decades ago .

  • @AnthonyRochester
    @AnthonyRochester Před 5 lety +9

    Jon's best video to date. Really interesting.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Před 5 lety +1

      More where this came from, cheers!

  • @neil2wheels876
    @neil2wheels876 Před 5 lety +50

    Love the cultural idiosyncrasies. I had no idea about this discipline. Fascinating

    • @smallerfreeze
      @smallerfreeze Před 5 lety +4

      Look into Asians if you had no idea about this... They truly are the most respectful race of people, incredibly hard working, honest and smart. Ive never met a dirty or disrespectful Asian

    • @Loremipsum555
      @Loremipsum555 Před 5 lety +5

      John probably the worst way you could disprove a point ever. Try again

    • @lux-3001
      @lux-3001 Před 5 lety

      @John The mathematical error in assuming the personality of 4 billion people based on people you have met is just the same as assuming the criminality of them based on bad news you hear.

    • @Bayo106
      @Bayo106 Před 5 lety +1

      @John yes, that idiot did. Lol people and their sweeping statements

  • @linot111
    @linot111 Před 4 lety +1

    Watching this again, and remembering that already the first time around I was amazed by the colour scheme of that stadium! Wes Anderson..

  • @csobering3108
    @csobering3108 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for providing this insight into Keirin racing. Another great video.

  • @michaellee1663
    @michaellee1663 Před 5 lety +5

    An amazing incite into such a different culture. Michael Palin would be proud of this Jon.

  • @olinjohnson4152
    @olinjohnson4152 Před 5 lety +3

    Great video, Jon!

  • @NancyBiker
    @NancyBiker Před 5 lety +2

    Really enjoyed the show. Grew up watching track racing in Kenosha Wisconsin USA.

  • @wuxiren64
    @wuxiren64 Před 5 lety

    Super interesting! Hope your visit there has footage enough for several more videos. Left me hungry for more - more on the bikes, more on the structure/strategy of the race, interview with current/former riders. Whole new universe!

  • @murraymorrison7688
    @murraymorrison7688 Před 5 lety +16

    Never seen so much durace cranks and hubs in my life

  • @vladuchoo
    @vladuchoo Před 5 lety +3

    That's a great video, thanks GCN.
    It would great to learn whether there is any difference in training for track vs Keirin athletes.

    • @filipracek6478
      @filipracek6478 Před 5 lety

      Lookup up "Keirin school" which is isolated training program that the riders have to attend. For example they do hill reps on a super steep "wall".

  • @stefancameron
    @stefancameron Před 5 lety +1

    Fascinating! Thanks, GCN!

  • @yveslemaitre4048
    @yveslemaitre4048 Před 5 lety

    I went to the same place and had the exact same reaction... so different from what I expected...thanks for bringing back the memories and explaining some of what is happening inside

  • @chawanatn
    @chawanatn Před 5 lety +9

    "What Keirin is all about?"
    Gambling!

  • @boyinthemumble
    @boyinthemumble Před 5 lety +150

    Great informative video! There was a lot I didn't know even though I live here in Japan. I do see the Keirin racers out on the road on occasion on their piste bikes with the obligatory front brake attached, but have never actually been to see the races. One thing I was disappointed though was the choice of BGM especially at the beginning. Yes, the kind of music used there helps to make the feel the viewer lie they are in exotic Asia, but Hollywood has been doing that for years and I think I'm not the only who's tired of it. The type of music is how the West sees us and not what we actually listen to. I don't know what would be the right type of music, but I think you could try a little harder than going to the most obvious choice. Sorry for the rant. I'm really a fan of GCN and love what you guys do. I hope you can take this as constructive criticism. Thanks.

    • @maxxfurygts
      @maxxfurygts Před 5 lety +18

      Agreed on the music. It was a fantastic video but the first thing I noticed was the music choice.

    • @OnkelDoerte
      @OnkelDoerte Před 5 lety +17

      Greetings from Germany. We know your struggle :D

    • @dfpguitar
      @dfpguitar Před 5 lety +13

      should have played babymetal 🤘
      But the choice of generic koto music might be to do with copyright. If they use a modern song "universal music group" kills the CZcams video.

    • @boyinthemumble
      @boyinthemumble Před 5 lety +7

      @@dfpguitar maybe so, but it still doesn't change how I felt. I don't think they meant any harm. They just didn't think give it much thought. Babymetal would definitely be great, but they can't use that, I'm sure there are other possibilities besides the generic koto music.

    • @ryanclark2266
      @ryanclark2266 Před 5 lety +3

      Really the music? You do realize anime, exaggerates stereotypes, yet is extremely popular. Create content, let's stop criticizing creators whom are not preaching hate.

  • @juliancromwell6909
    @juliancromwell6909 Před 5 lety +1

    Fascinating. A true look into something really different. GCN keeps on coming up with great content.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Před 5 lety +1

      Cheers Julian! We found it super interesting.

  • @ChanceBarber
    @ChanceBarber Před 5 lety +1

    Great. No idea about any of this.... Fun to see how much Jon enjoyed it. Great insight & access.

  • @mattspare8835
    @mattspare8835 Před 5 lety +16

    Two more things to add: The colour of that stripe on their shorts indicates level of experience. I also remember reading that they have to announce what strategy they will be using during the race, not sticking to it later is considered taboo. Weird, but think it had to do with the gambling aspect of it.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Před 5 lety +3

      Crikey. It's a far cry from what we know as pro cycling!

    • @casparvoncampenhausen5249
      @casparvoncampenhausen5249 Před 4 lety

      I have a question:
      Do they have brakes??? Because I didn't see any

  • @AlexRochette
    @AlexRochette Před 5 lety +3

    Brilliant reporting! Thank you!

  • @cclemoyne4033
    @cclemoyne4033 Před rokem

    Big thumbs up, thanks. I would have liked to see more of the bikes. Cheers from MTL

  • @sunnyjames1117
    @sunnyjames1117 Před 5 lety

    Amazing coverage 😇 Thank you for the detailed coverage. Loved the bikes. 👍

  • @sandydennylives1392
    @sandydennylives1392 Před 5 lety +5

    It's always a treat to see some steel. I'm off to tesco's on one of my steels to celebrate. The heavy one I think. Not a scrap of cf on it at all. Let's get the Beersin for the Keirin; good honest steelist's.

    • @iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
      @iwritechecksatthegrocerystore Před 5 lety

      sandydenny lives agree! Bout a year ago I decided to try aluminum just... because I make lots of poor decisions in my life and (I guess) I thought: “hey I haven’t extended my line of thinking towards bikes yet” ...
      Miss my steel baby. Going to eventually get back, when I can find an excuse to justify the frame/fork purchase.

  • @FritzCozm0
    @FritzCozm0 Před 5 lety +5

    Quality video. I could tell you were genuinely interested in Keirin.

  • @Geeunit199
    @Geeunit199 Před 5 lety

    This was one of the best uploads in ages.

  • @fd710jp
    @fd710jp Před 5 lety +2

    Thank you for sharing the Japanese Keirin!! I am Japanese, so I know quite Keirin Track race. The Keirin is one of the best popular sport in Japan, although most Japanese don't know the Road Race. Hopefully, I look forward to creating GCN Japanese channel (like Espanol) !!

  • @Calum_S
    @Calum_S Před 5 lety +7

    Great video Jon.

  • @ryansugimoto3851
    @ryansugimoto3851 Před 5 lety +5

    I hope you had time to visit one of the NJS frame builder's shops. Would be awesome to see one braised and hammered together in person.

  • @TheBigCheese233
    @TheBigCheese233 Před 5 lety

    Awesome video!!!! Thanks GCN! :D

  • @alriealmonicar4601
    @alriealmonicar4601 Před 4 lety

    Thanks GCN, my subscription is really worthy, i am a Filino and i am also a cycling enthusiast, your videos are very informative and helpful, it made me more interested about cycling. Thank you so much, i hope one of your staff could visit the Philippines particularly in Cebu.

  • @JamesDavis-ek5sq
    @JamesDavis-ek5sq Před 5 lety +2

    For a look at the American take on Keirin racing, please consider coming to Dick Lane Velodrome in Atlanta for the annual Keirin event. Usually in May so already gone this year, but it's a rather different version with lots of fans, cheering and unique Southern US flavor. My personal favorite cycling event to watch in person, ever!

  • @parkysouthlondon
    @parkysouthlondon Před 5 lety +5

    I think the outdoor track at Herne Hill that is a similar size (450m) in SE London has an all weather surface on it these days as riders were riding there in the rain when I visited the other day.

    • @AlphaSkewber
      @AlphaSkewber Před 5 lety +2

      It does I regularly ride there the only thing that prevents riding is when it is icy

    • @AlphaSkewber
      @AlphaSkewber Před 5 lety +2

      But there aren’t races when it’s wet only training

  • @paulmayerpiano
    @paulmayerpiano Před 4 lety

    Excellent video! This is truly fascinating to someone who loves cycling, such as myself, and was previously unaware of Keirin's existence. The research of the presenter and the "behind the scenes" footage show an attention to detail that is, if I may say, very appropriate to the subject matter and the culture in which it is based. Top quality. Thank you!

  • @puehlong
    @puehlong Před 5 lety

    That was fantastic, please more of this style of videos

  • @alexgalea173
    @alexgalea173 Před 5 lety +100

    they look like horse racers

    • @willeigo8468
      @willeigo8468 Před 5 lety +4

      Or greyhounds with the pace rider ( akin to the rabbit which runs in the dog race ).

    • @alexgalea173
      @alexgalea173 Před 5 lety

      @@willeigo8468 haha true

    • @chawanatn
      @chawanatn Před 5 lety +11

      The part of the tales I learned is that Keirin is actually designed to be "a horse race" when the economy is struggling and real horses are difficult to come by. Not sure if I heard the Japanese old man correctly, but this sounds likely.

    • @FreekaPista
      @FreekaPista Před 5 lety +2

      Chawanat Nakasan - I’ve also heard that the Japanese government funded the construction of a lot of the velodromes as work projects to help the economy, but in order to make the project worthwhile, they needed to create a larger source of income than what the European velodromes make. So the “sport” of Kierin was created to bring in consistent gambling money.

    • @wolframazer
      @wolframazer Před 4 lety +6

      I actually like human race than animal race because I love human cruelty

  • @willeigo8468
    @willeigo8468 Před 5 lety +28

    Sir, you are the NEW Matt Stephens of GCN. The others are good, but you are professional reporter.

    • @peterroberts3748
      @peterroberts3748 Před 5 lety

      Except :
      1. What was the hand waving about 'ju jitzu'? Very unnecessary, irritating and unprofessional - keep hands still or in pockets!
      2. Vocally untrained takes much too long to get to and make a point. . . . . .
      3. Why does the lens focus unnecessarily and lengthily on the speaker - we can hear what he says. The camera should be used more fruitfully . . . . as has been pointed out several times.
      4. 'Without' cycling footage, why was this video not made in Europe?
      Conclusion - 'Very amateurish production. IMHO.

    • @jawzdu5549
      @jawzdu5549 Před 5 lety

      Peter Roberts I find that the hand movement was better than staying still or having hands in pocket. This channel in general has a more natural flow rather than stiff movements of staying still and hands in pockets

  • @nickjones252
    @nickjones252 Před 2 lety

    Fascinating stuff. Been to Japan twice, on tour playing gigs but never got a chance to see Keirin racing in the flesh. I hope to see it one day...

  • @erichaskell
    @erichaskell Před 5 lety +2

    Great presentation. Would have enjoyed a couple of races. Thanks much.

  • @shydncrumph8119
    @shydncrumph8119 Před 5 lety +34

    2 watches? playing it safe, eh? great program, though!

    • @SgtMacska
      @SgtMacska Před 5 lety

      Possibly to track two time zones?

    • @louistri3
      @louistri3 Před 4 lety

      @daAnder71 it does though, at 14:17 it shows 13.16

  • @alienrefugee51
    @alienrefugee51 Před 4 lety +5

    Nice informative video, but I would've liked to have seen some more racing action. It's like, you wait 'til the end of the video for the race and all you get is 10 seconds?

  • @rubaiyatu
    @rubaiyatu Před 5 lety

    Thank you! An excellent look into the world of Keirin. Too bad you didn't have time to check out the whole cycling scene in Japan -- it's AMAZING!

  • @rolandmg1
    @rolandmg1 Před 5 lety +1

    A very informative and interesting video, well done and keep them coming.

  • @jondashun
    @jondashun Před 5 lety +3

    The Japanese Keirin culture is so fascinating! Great video. There are also really nice documentaries about Keirin racing with Shane Perkins, Francois Pervis and some more on CZcams. I highly recommend watching this as well. :-)

    • @Alex-vq9vj
      @Alex-vq9vj Před 5 lety

      Thanks for the tips, will check them out.

  • @guest_informant
    @guest_informant Před 5 lety +79

    Basically human greyhound racing.

    • @matprlz
      @matprlz Před 5 lety +23

      Better than forcing Dogs or Horses to it I suppose...

    • @iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
      @iwritechecksatthegrocerystore Před 5 lety +2

      I mean.... couldn’t you say that about most racing?
      Maybe not car racing I guess.
      Although I would certainly pay to see dogs driving race cars

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090 Před 4 lety

      Somewhat I supppose.
      Incredibly different than US Velodrome racing which my children & I participated in !
      My son qualified in Velodrome racing in 2015 for the US Olympic Trials - so we know the sport well.
      Our US Athletes in Track cycling are truly self funded amateurs whereas the Japanese have morphed this into a professional sport / business.
      Nothing wrong at all about that just very different model despite the other similarities they share.
      Thanks GCN for showing us Keirin Racing !

    • @erichaheidrich4593
      @erichaheidrich4593 Před 3 lety

      Lol. %100

  • @samsonian
    @samsonian Před 5 lety

    I really enjoyed this special; it’s great to see different parts of the cycling world we might not normally see.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Před 5 lety

      👌 cheers bud!

  • @keikei6566
    @keikei6566 Před 2 lety +1

    Really good insight on this steeped in tradition type of racing! Will check out a live race in future:)

  • @tenettttt
    @tenettttt Před 5 lety +10

    Now i feel like building up a track bike again..

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Před 5 lety +6

      Yes! Do it.

    • @terryhollands2794
      @terryhollands2794 Před 5 lety +2

      I had heard of keirin racing back in the 1970s but couldn't see any until the advent of CZcams. Thanks for covering the topic.

    • @jgourdo
      @jgourdo Před 5 lety +1

      Make sure it's NJS approved

  • @nyc-007
    @nyc-007 Před 5 lety +3

    Did it ever occur to you to actually show the RACING? Would have been nice to see.

  • @reddevil211287
    @reddevil211287 Před 3 lety

    I love Jon's biking history and nerdery videos so much!

  • @gordonllamo
    @gordonllamo Před 5 lety +1

    Possibly the best video of the channel, congratulations

  • @jamiehay1027
    @jamiehay1027 Před 5 lety +4

    Great video!

  • @janwarrington
    @janwarrington Před 5 lety +3

    Gutted you never showed us an example race - or at least some finishing laps. I really wanted to know how one "looked".........

  • @burmesebeef
    @burmesebeef Před 5 lety +1

    those simple steel bikes are BEAUTIFUL! museum worthy

  • @bjkactivities
    @bjkactivities Před 2 lety +1

    Theo Bos even went to Japan for several years to compete in the Japanese Keirin. He said that is was a big part in his overall succes.