107SLC versus 107 convertible
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I love that some people out there advocate for the less popular SLC cars. They have such a different character and style than the more abundant convertibles. The rear glass and side louvers are so gorgeous that it really makes them stand out compared to other cars.
have 2 1973 450SLC cars. drive one daily,the other is under wraps...30 years now, my favorite model
Pierre is a seeker of truth! Which is why He owns the material. It’s easy to wear his skin, he is a focused wrench! A few months ago I finally picked up an SLC. Military 1974, first sighting … As you walk around, the sheet metal is pulled taunt and flat. Then the 3D slight of hand marrying that roof to the body is a work of amazing engineering !!! Think C-111 …. Mine was a one owner, bought at the factory with HVAC deleted estate sale. It took me a while to find a European Spec SLC. This one truly fell out the sky …. I finally got one !
Greetings from Sweden ! I have one w114 coupe from 1975, and a w107 sl from 1978. Me and my wife drive these during summer. They are nice solid cars ! I have owned them for twenty years, and i have no plans of selling them any time soon !
I find your program very informative and entertaining to watch. Thanks from Reine Gothenburg, Sweden !
Thank you so much. Glad to know that people in Sweden still value these
I'd love to own a SLC as I think they are such a beautiful, elegant car. I am a long time owner of an Australian Mercedes 380 SEC, which is a fine car, but big. The SLC is smaller, sportier and so European. And not being a fan of convertables, as the weather and sun is so harsh here, a hard top is just fine for me. Better start looking for one before they become unaffordable.
its enjoyable listening to you talk Mercedes.
Thank you !
I've always loved the 450SLC. I look forward to buying one in the near future.
thanks for the videos pierre , your enthusiasm is the only thing keeping me working on my non starting 124.051 and not parting it out
Good luck! I am wishing you the best
Hello Pierre. We sure enjoy your sharing your knowledge. If I might suggest, maybe you could share the visuals with photographs or drawings of the cars you Discuss.Your presentations would be infinitely more Enjoyable.
Thanks Pierre for that unexpected review. Love the SLC, my current favourite 'sports car'
Their rallying heritage especially their prowess in marathon events together with the W123s (I own a Gen 1 123) made me, a Rally fan want to own both. I hope to pick one up when my bank balance allows for one.
W123 + C107 = ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you Sean. I love my Slc
Agree entirely about Zebrino wood
I had a 1974 450 SLC it was very fast and smooth on the highway, these cars are definitely not daily drivers.
MPG 12 city/15 hwy
Features in car Becker am/fm stereo which still worked
Moonroof
Anthracite grey exterior original paint which still looked in factory condition
Fog lights
First aid kit
Original windshield wipers
Alloy wheels
Problems with car
Oil leakage
Hood latch problems
replaced headers
And one day the car started but wouldn’t go into reverse or drive
So I ended up getting rid of it for free.
I purchased the car for $1,200 back in 1999, it lasted for 4 years.
Speedometer had 186k miles on it when I got it , but the speedometer did not work when I got it.
It also had U.S regulatory bumpers which made the car look even longer and unattractive.
It sounds like the drive year on your transmission front pump failed. This gear had little wings that what shear off into the torque converter. It's a shame because it would have been an easy fix
Greetings from the UK. great video and information-thank you!
I may be wrong but I seem to remember two factory backed SLCs going sideways in various continental rallies in the early 80s. Very much under the radar .
You are right ! in the 1980 Bandama rally in Africa Björn Valdegård won in a 1980 500 slc, and his team mate Jorge Recalde came in second place !
Reine Sjögren . Thankyou . Tail out attitude would these monsters very entertaining .
@@neilrafferty2097 somebody knows their Mercedes history!
I like the SLC, i think it's less "cliché" than the SL body
Slc was so stylish. Seems to have been forgotten a lot. You know these cars so well. I love it. Know much about 1990 300d? Had it for a few years now been an excellent car. Less than 100k miles on it. Some clear liquid leaked out on under left side of front. :( while sitting in my garage just the other day
I love my SL! If anything happens to it I will buy another, or two or three...
My midlife crisis car, before the midlife, as a precaution....
LilyoftheValeyrising
I would like a 1989 560 SL
I thing this model came with airbags
I've had mine since 2003, was my only car for many years. Much more flexible than an SL, you can put a child seat in the back of one for example. They were also generally better equipped - e.g. mine has leather, LSD etc. I add that these cars (and the R107) rust like nothing else. This chassis, the 116 and 114/115 seem to be the most rust prone Mercedes. Note that another comment says the aluminum control arms were standard on euro models, this is not the case. What was standard was the anti-dive/anti-squat suspension setup on the 450 which for some strange reason US cars had to do without.
The aluminum control arms were synonymous with the anti dive suspension. I like the extra passenger room in the SLC as well. You can share the fun
I don't know if my first comment posted, but the aluminum rear control arms in the anti dive suspension are the same
Classic Jalopy rust prone mostly in the salt belt, and if you didn’t get them undercoated, the floor pans were doomed.
Pierre covers the greatest topics ! Love the slc !!!! I remember seeing one as a kid and wondering what the rear shades were and who was hiding behind them.
I always wondered the same thing!
Loving my 450 SLC!
Slc all the way!
Hello Pierre, as always, thank you very much for an exceptional comparison with wealth of knowledge. Suggestion, if I may please, I think it would be very helpful to show a picture, as an illustration, of any MBZ "W - chassis" within the subject you're talking about. This is for the vast general viewers help, firtly, to refresh the minds of the older enthusiasts remembering the good old days and secondly, to have more of the younger generation gain additional interest in the various glamorous shapes and models of the MBZ Classics. With your permission, this would make your lobbying for the Classic MBZ even more effective and interesting, after all a picture can paint a thousand words. Many thanks and keep up the good work, sir.
I will let Thomas know that he should include pictures in these comparisons next time
Good day , i am having alot of issues finding the front and rear windshields for the slc in the US can you help?
Great work .
Pierre, I very much appreciate your videos and they have been invaluable in helping me gradually get my "rescue" 450 SL (a 1976 California spec with about 133K) back to good health - it runs extremely well right now with a few things still on my to do list. To my surprise, my wife has caught on to my enthusiasm for these wonderful vehicles and, although I love open air driving when I can, the car is also very enjoyable with the hard top. I think at some point I'll find an SLC for her, once I have something to spare in my pocketbook. But one thing caught my attention - I'm 6'2" and have no problems sitting in my car with either top. Your comment makes me think my seats must be sagging more than I thought. (Or you're that much taller). Any idea of what normal headroom should be?
SLC 450 Goals !
W 107 SLC is a better handling automobile at high speeds !!! Because of the longer wheel base .
First of all, love your content, just discovered your stuff, loving it. Second, as an owner of a 380slc, I think you skipped some of its virtues... I think the all aluminum engine gives it better handling, the four speed auto is a very nice positive, and frankly, the power of the engine is a good match for the car’s character. No arguments on the negatives, I’ve spent heavily on the timing chain conversion, climate control, and no I don’t like the 85mph speedo, but regardless, incredibly satisfying car to own. Hard to figure why the c107 is so under appreciated, but as you said, that becomes an ownership perk in its own way too.
Now I'm leaning towards an slc body for a full euro 560 sl drivetrain and mechanical transplant
That would be amazing. I think there are plenty of 380slcs out there that would be good
@@thisisnightshop2037 smog exempt 380s?
Do a 6.9 V8
I have seen a number of 380SLC with 560SL transplants.
I have always considered the SLC a very attractive car and really considered it when I bought the SEC.
The SEC was a better highway car in my opinion.
Enjoyed your discussion about the 107s. I seem to recall that back in the day, there were issues with camshafts prematurely wearing. Do you or any of our older members recall? If this is accurate, the "survivors" would have had that issue addressed long ago.
You're correct about that. Early 3.5 + 4.5 l slc's had right hand camshaft where issues due to weak oil supply.
What do you mean "economical"? As in purchase price or cost of ownership or fuel economy?
I have owned a 73 450slc since 2009. It had 74k then, has 80k now. These coupes don't get anywhere near the respect the roadsters get and I am ok with that. Once you get a car you seem to notice similar cars and even though I live in north central WV there are quite a few 107r's running around but I have only seen one other SLC. From the side view they look awkward but from the front 3/4 view they are elegant looking. The gas mileage does suck, I get 12 open road and it only seems to like Exxon premium. If you want a 107 that is really affordable and has some character an SLC is a good way to go. It would be nice if Pierre was a little closer to WV, finding shops that can work on these cars is tough.
I would prefer a C107 over a R107.
The aluminum control arms (anti-squat /anti-dive rear end) were never an option. They were standard on all euro 4.5 (sl and slc), euro 380sl, 5.0, 4.2, and 5.6.
Two 5.0 SLC custom convertibles were custom made by Stephen Register in Atlanta in 1984/1985. I own one.
Yeah, I think you're probably the only one that wants one of those custom convertibles.I didn't know that the anti-dive suspension was standard and all of the v8 Euro cars. Thanks for letting me know
Pierre Hedary not all euro get anti dive rear ends. No 2.8, no 3.5, no 380slc, euro 380sl do. It’s all in the EPC.
SLC in PNW are like hen’s teeth. I saw more of them rotting at PnP than I have ever seen on the road. Nobody wants to work or fix one. An excess of R107, to the point values are low, but CL c107 sell as scrap.
Yes it's really sad how grossly underappreciated they are. One of my ESL C's came from the West coast. It was languishing in a guy's garage
I always thought that the R107 SLC looked more balanced and sleek as compared to the SL's chopped look.
It's interesting because the debate goes both ways
450SLC was Top of The Line originally and Expensive
Well for starters I see a lot of R107 driving around with a hardtop because they don’t want to spend $5000
To replace their rotted soft top
$ 5ooo.oo for a top?
Got mine done for total 1800.00
Materials and labor
Hey Pierre I’m having trouble with my 1986 560sl. I’ve replaced the fuel pumps, fuel filter, fuel accumulator, EHA, all tank hoses, and the tank screen. It seems as though I have low fuel pressure. The car will crank and occasionally start but immediately shut off. When I crack a line on the fuel distributor fuel barley comes out which makes me suspect low pressure. Is there a way to test the pump relay? I can hear the pumps run for a few seconds when the key is in position 2. I’ve read it could be the fuel pressure regulator or fuel distributor not functioning properly but don’t know where to look next. Car will start and run fine with fuel or starting fluid in the intake but doesn’t start on its own.
Thanks for your help big fan of your page
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Was this the precursor to the SEC ?
Yes sir, it was the precursor to the C126 SEC.
It was the precursor
First comment. Just because !
Impalaman's Garage just because of ??
@@jco5679 Precisely!
It is strange how SLC is not as valuable as SL. And they are more accesible. I am so close to buying one. But there are many things that go with a classic car...
450 SLC 5.0 !!