12 years in prison is 'inhumane': Father of American detained in Turks and Caicos | NewsNation Live
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- čas přidán 5. 05. 2024
- Four Americans face ammunition charges in Turks and Caicos, which carry a minimum penalty of 12 years in prison. Michael Wenrich, the father of Tyler Wenrich, who has been detained on the charges, says he was able to pay his son's bond Friday and get him out of jail until his court hearing.
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Face the consequences of being irresponsible. Being American doesn’t make you immune to other country’s laws.
Who said it did?
@dcampbelldcampbell000 what a dumb question, the family, this news channel, and half the people in the comments.
@dcampbelldcampbell8000, I hear "But I'm an American!" outside the USA when I travel! Like it's a get out of jail free card!
The USA government should use its leverage with tourism to reduce the penalty to a more reasonable one.
@@user-xh8zp6ht2b FAFO. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse here in America!!!
Americans finding out how hard life is outside America
Will They Get The Britney Griner Treatment??
No, finding out how careless laws are in America. If we had actual responsible laws, gun owners wouldn’t be “forgetting loaded guns were in their carryons every day across the country at airports.
Ridiculous that only is a “potential” fine for that!!🤡
Yup
Exactly. Can’t get their own way all the time.
Actually it is not hard at all to not habe ammunition or weapons on you where this is not allowed. I do that every day.
I come from a legal cannabis state, but I make sure to clean out my backpack before I travel, because I know saying, "but I'm from Oregon" isnt going to work.
THIS☝🏼☝🏼☝🏼☝🏼!! I took my son and his girlfriend to Turks last November(we are🇨🇦) he smokes weed. He literally went through his bag and wiped it down with lysol wipes because he knew we were travelling to a DIFFERENT COUNTRY with different laws
Facts
I am from Oregon too💙🩵.
It was a mistake?? 30 rounds?? While traveling to a foreign country?
Lol……
He had 2 rounds of ammo. Did you watch the whole thing??
Where the hell did you hear or read "30 rounds"?
It’s happened to me before.
@@dcampbelldcampbell8000between all of the men there were 30 rounds.
The issue here is the general disrespect, ignorance and arrogance of Americans trying in idiotic ways to disregard the legal and cultural identities of other countries.
Exactly. If it were reversed they’d have no sympathy if it was someone in the US. We’d say our laws are our laws, don’t do the crime if you can’t handle it. Americans need to understand the rest of the world doesn’t cater to us. We have to respect their cultures and laws the same way we’d expect others to do here.
Agreed.
Do you even know how small ‘ammunition’ is? Two bullets can easily hide in the creases of a suitcase. So much judgement. You must be perfect.
@@Sammysgrl22 Thank you!!! A lot of uptight people here.
@@Sara-xk1ns You mean other than the laws that say you can't cross our borders at other than legal checkpoints?
As someone who’s traveled a bit into other countries, you have to be EXTRA EXTRA careful what you pack and research their laws. What an idiot….why?
Note to self. Don’t ever travel there
You must be very very responsible
just dont bring ammo
Simply don't break their laws.
They don't want you there either
An idiotic response.
I mistakenly did 160 mph and got arrested; should my mistake allow me to avoid the rules?
Going 160 is a lot different then what they did
nope
How do you accidentally miss 33 rounds tho that takes a lot of room and makes a lot of noise
I can understand the dude with 2 rounds missing them but you still gotta check your bags when you’re packing them
@@jordyb57
No. If the men broke the laws of another country, they need to serve the punishment. I would be beyond distraught if one of them were my loved one. I would hope that my son would not be this stupid!
Are they okay with foreigners coming into America, breaking our laws, and not being held accountable? I know I'm not, so I can't feel bad for Americans who go to other countries and get in trouble for breaking their laws.
They do everyday
@@conniebishop3966 And like I said, I'm not okay with it.
@@conniebishop3966 , and?
Two completely unrelated issues
How did that ammo get through tsa security? I’d think our airport security should also be held accountable
How do you know they didn't buy it at another port*?
Other countries 😢😂
@@commanderdante3185 LOL!!!!
How Are You Not Gonna Know You Have Ammunition On You, Pretty WRECKLESS If You Ask THIS American
lol at your presumption that the TSA is effective. This is from a 2015 article but will give you some reference...
"In all, so-called "Red Teams" of Homeland Security agents posing as passengers were able get weapons past TSA agents in 67 out of 70 tests - a 95 percent failure rate, according to agency officials."
All four MISTAKENLY left ammunition in each of their separate bags? Lol nah bro...
I believe the subject of this video was attending a bachelor party cruise with a T & C stopover. What does that have to do with anyone else?
@@dcampbelldcampbell8000 Did you not watch the video? There are FOUR people who have been arrested for MISTAKENLY having ammo in their luggage. What are you not understanding about this situation? All four men brought this ammo on purpose and that's all their is to it...
@@911BrosTrav Mistakenly my ass. If this was Jaquan from the hood, mistakenly excuse wouldn't work and you would be cheering on the T&C.
Perhaps these families will be more empathetic toward jailed people in the states.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse ….
It is if you are part of the special privileged class.
Was it smart to leave ammo in your bag and then fly to a foreign country with very strict gun laws??
Why is it inhumane? They broke the law in another country. They deserve to spend every single day of the 12 year sentence FOR BREAKING THE LAW.
12 years is 12 years 😮
Just because it's "THE LAW" doesn't make it justified. A lot of countries have ridiculous, inhumane laws.
@@MoeShlomoyes, like giving AR-15 to children
@@MoeShlomo Well unfortunately entitled Americans aren't able to change the laws in other countries, so if you visit you must follow the law or deal with the consequences.
HORSECRAP! Do people know about firearm violence in Turks and Caicos? Do people saying it’s inhumane feel the same about extreme sentences in the US?
I think it’s irresponsible to be a gun owner and have loose ammo in your regular travel bags and not have a clue about that! As a responsible gun owner, you SHOULD know the condition of every gun, and every bullet you own. That is NOT asking much of any gun owner.
FOUR Americans now are in Turks and Caicos with loose rounds, WTF?!?🤦♂️
90% of guns stolen and stolen from "responsible gun owners" Spare me.
And what "extreme sentences" are those?
"Something as innocent as this..." What the?? Do your time like a man. You knew what you were doing.
Agreed
this just reeks of a high sense of entitlement
It seems Turks and Caicos doesn't have ammunition manufacturing available and need to have to import ammunition and it seems Americans are transporting ammunition to an island to help the criminals attain ammunition. That is what the Island sees. And guess what, it turns out there are a bunch of Americans that travel there frequently and just happen to have ammunition.
My thoughts exactly
Interesting 🤔 I wonder if there is any truth to that, seems somewhat logical though.
Don't understand one thing, to arrive to a country with ammo it's one thing and ok there are laws etc., BUT! How it was possible to LEAVE/DEPARTURE from a country with ammo inside a luggage?, So .. Who check that at departure? No X-Rays etc? ... There was ammo on a plane going to Turks and Caicos? For me that's very concerning and that must be investigate it.
Are you special
@@allanthomas6097 This guy was on a cruise. No cruise lines allow guns or ammo on board so all luggage is xrayed, everything is searched. So presumably he didn't have any ammo going in. The security check leaving was where he got caught. Just like getting on another plane you get searched.
@@susanohnhaus611 people get things past the tsa and security checks every day, some in purpose and some on accident. Fact of the matter is it happens all the time. It's is impossible to catch everything
If you go to a different country - it is best to know the laws, such as drinking laws in Saudi etc. You cannot be expected to know every single thing about that country, but it is logical to behave and not have contraband in your bag and on your person. why would they need ammo on a cruise??? Learning the lesson the hard way, for not checking your own bag. Isn't it the law to pack your own bag, and to declare that you have never left your bag with anyone.... while awaiting your flight/ arriving at the airport or to confirm this is a fact at the customs.
Really tired of hearing about this.
Check your bags , it’s not hard stuff……
I just don't get how you don't check your luggage nowadays. Especially after 9/11. I use the same bags I fly with for work and always makes sure there's nothing like knives or sharp objects. Even though in the US they just confiscate them and sell them for profit. Even this week I was contemplating whether a can of sardines was legal to take on a flight. I'd certainly check for a bullet
They knew the laws. They failed to check their own luggage to make sure that they had nothing contraband in it. The law is the law in that land. And they want their white privilege to get them out. And his Daddy's got to talk for him because he's too upset. 😢
No excuse , their own luggage 😮
WTF does this have to do with the color of their skin? They want to get out of jail for making a dumb mistake, yes, obviously. They're not bringing race into this - you are.
this is a racist comment
@@lynnhubbard844YT allows people to report comments for different reasons.
Unjustly? Only Americans “forget” amo in their luggage. 🤦🏻♀️
No sympathy for these idiots. Why would 4 separate adults use hunting bags containing loose ammo for international travel?
Look Up The Laws Where You Go.. No Excuses. How Are You Not Gonna Know You Have Ammo On Your Persons?? Im American But Miss Me With The Pity Party For Them..
PRISON AND FINES.
BEING STUPID IS NOT A FREE PASS.
Just because you are American does not mean you are entitle in other countries. You need to behave and abide other countries law when you set foot in that country. 30 rounds? Well, it a good warning to those self entitle Americans. Laws in the U.S. always seems to have excuse for misbehave/excuses for leniency and good lawyers. Cruel and inhumane? Is there physical and mental torture.
I think all four men together had 40 rounds. This guy had two or three rounds.
No, not "as innocent as this."
"As stupid as this."
I fixed it for you
People never want to take responsibility 🤦🏻♀️
This is dumb! Fine them and let them go home.
4 people are being charged for the same thing? I don’t believe the rounds were accidentally left in suitcases of 4 different people. I don’t have sympathy for these people. They know the rules.
You don't think 2 rounds was an accident?
Iam sorry 😞 I didn't mean to have 30 rounds in my suitcase 😢
@@Mrs.Butterworthdosent matter I it's a accident. That's totally irrelevant
State Dept and House Rep/Senators only gonna get bold IF person in trouble is 1) wealthy with DC connections, 2) some popular celeb or 3) a category of PC person where State Dept wants to make POTUS look tough and heroic.
Other countries dont messed around ! !!
IGNORANCE ISN'T AN EXCUSE.
I bet he's wishing he was Brittney Griner, most protected victim right now 🤣
Rules are rules. It does make you think, if the billions we spent on airport security didn't pick up the ammo in their lugage what's going on?
Know the laws of other countries before going. I do
Respect the laws of the country you travel. Don’t do the crime if you cant do the time!!
This is what happens when Americans call themselves “expats” and not “foreigners” when they travel.
Hey you gotta respect the laws of the country you visit
One day us as American citizens won’t learn when traveling to other countries make certain you check your baggage to make certain you are not caring what is considered contraband in other countries. It’s their country, it’s their laws. Either obey their laws or don’t travel there. Just because we are Americans traveling abroad doesn’t make us exempt from following the laws of other countries. 1:43
I don't think American jails have pillows either. It's a safety issue. Of all things to point out, using your shoes for pillows...
Tourists coming to the US are expected to respect the laws of the US. Aren't they?
Who in the right mind travel to another country with ammunition ? too coincidental. Noth Americans need to respect other´s country law and rules.. you are not above law..
Awee...
Of all the things in the news, these kind of stories are my favorites!
Hilarious!
Some US citizens are finding out America isn’t such a bad country after all once they travel elsewhere. Dad calling it an accident but I don’t buy that. So he travels to another country not knowing he had ammunition in his backpack? Yeah, ok.
Daddy can't help u out now ! 😢😮
Yeah, he's trying to equate "total disregard of the law" with "accident". He needs a dose of reality. America has lots of Americans in prison because of their "accidents".
I go to the gun range regularly and I specifically have a range bag/pack. Why would anyone carry ammo in their normal travel baggage. Either these dudes are really dumb or they're being set up.
Seppos thinking the laws of other countries don’t apply to them
If you don't take the laws in other countries seriously, are you so loose with laws in the U.S., too?
Yes. A majority of Americans disregard any and every law applicable. They ignore the ones they know and don't care to learn anything.
It's why 9/10 Americans do 20+ mph everywhere they go. They run stop signs & red lights as if they don't apply. They seriously disregard any laws or signs that indicate expected behavior.
All because "this is America. Freedom. I can do what I want" foolishness & nonsense.
Ignorance to the law is not an excuse.
I feel very bad for these four but they should really find out laws of where they are going.
If someone from Amsterdam came to the US and was Arrested for standing in a window with their boobs and vajayjay out, and a sign selling sex- I’d EXPECT them to have to go through our legal system. Prostitution in the US is illegal.
If you are a Citizen of the US and you decide to leave our country, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAWS IN THE COUNTRY YOU ARE ENTERING. It is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to be aware of the laws beforehand. I’ll repeat that for the dad who is upset that his son wasn’t “made aware”, IT WAS HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO BE AWARE OF THE LAWS.
Furthermore, there is only ONE cruise ship that sails under the United States flag and follows the US Law while in international waters. 95% follow the laws of the Bahamas. I am willing to bet he isn’t aware of those either.
He can call EVERY SENATOR HE WANTS, every TSA rep he wants, and every cruise employee he wants- ZERO of them have the ability to preemptively warn his son about every law in every country that he may go into. The TSA also only screens in the situation provided. So, if you are boarding a boat in Florida they are screening your bag (FL) for the boat (Bahamas). They can’t screen for a location preemptively, it would take DAYS to screen the entire boat for the entire trip.
tough crap.....they broke the law and should be held accountable
Caucasian Americans getting treated like they treat black Americans in America. How funny 😂
If that were true, America's crime rate would be a lot lower. Let's try it.
Black privilege is real bud
racist comment
Just stay in the US there are plenty of things to do and plenty of places to go.
How is it inhumane? Don't go to different countries and break their laws??
Don't go to other countries breaking the law
Do you not find out what the rules/laws are before you travel to another country... need to take responsibility... It ain't America... I feel for you but... 🤷🏻♀️
Im curious how many people bellyaching over this story made the exact ipposite argument regarding Britney Griner and vice versa.
THE GENERAL IDEA OF CARRYING Ammunition IS FOR SELF DEFENCE JEST IN CASE,,
Stupid illegal activities follow all laws No Punishment U/S/A needs to follow laws & prosecute people to the extent of all laws broken. There would be a safer place to live.
Wanted to act hard and now crying victim, lol. Maybe Trumpie can pardon you like Biden did with Britney, lmaooooo
CRY ME A RIVER!!! If we had those same laws in the Unites State, I would almost bet crimes commited with guns would see a massive drop!! turks and caicos is NOT PLAYING!! So for the love of God GO SIT TF DOWN and let this be a lesson not only for but for others!!
They'll find there was no ill intent and they'll be home in a few weeks.
Hahaha 😆 you ain't very bright are you
@@allanthomas6097 you’ll see. That’s what they did with the guy a few months ago who did the same thing. Though I think he did 6 months.
@@GarretGrayCamera what's his name?
@@allanthomas6097 Michael Allen Grimm. He was in jail 8 months last year for 20 rounds.
@@GarretGrayCamera the only thing I'm getting fir that is 8 months in federal prison fir two evasion
Wtf, I wonder what they had said about Brittany in the past
This is not about her.
Americans finding out the hard way why it was a big deal when Trump cut major funding and hiring of the state department.
The laws of our land should be followed, just as their laws should be. Let me guess, they’re upset because that country follows their laws. Why are they so special; they’re American?
LOCK HIM UP. If you cant follow other countries RULES THEN STAY HOME
His Wifey Gonna Be On The Open Market.. 😮
Andrew Santino
Did they take the amo as samples to show potential buyers
No pity.
Turks and Caicos is beautiful but I’m sure no harm was meant. We all need to be careful, rules are different everywhere.Brittany the Bastketball player, the guys, others with medications etc….heck some places do not allow you to chew bubble gum in their city. I hope the government realizes the great good is to warm them, fine them, and release them. Otherwise the cruise ships who cater to USA travelers should look to go to other islands….as much as I loved Turks and C. I could no longer support the island or their residents is our own citizens were being held.
Who goes to the embassy website to know about the country you are visiting, A lot of people, at least the one that I know, plus usually if you book with an agency also they send you the info. I found that the personal responsibility only works in the USA and not when you are visiting other countries.
womp womp, learn next time kiddo
Boo hoo. Lock him up. Treat him the same way yall treated Britney Griner. He broke the law and now he should to 20 years 🤷🏾♂️
Turks and Caicos islands are British colonies…don’t carry ammunition
I think l would be in the slammer if l was caught at JFK .. no excuses.
The good ol boys and their love of guns. 🤷🏽
Americans complaining their citizens breaking foreign laws & going to jail for many years as ‘inhumane’ & ‘cruel’ while finding it fair to sentence anyone in their own soil for years in jail for minor drug offences and even putting people to death via capital punishment for certain crimes that the legal system deem ‘morally acceptable’.
If you break foreign laws, you bear the consequences of foreign punishment. If you don’t agree with it, don’t visit those countries and commit the crime.
Why the hell would any Americans give money to those places.....they absolutely hate us.
they love the money but hate the USA. this whole thing is a money grab. Ammo was a fine a few months ago and now its 12 yrs
These americans are on their own because our state department only cares about other countries people not ours😢😢😢
Very 👍 true , care about !!
BS!
People don’t seem to realize that two ‘rounds’ is two bullets that could easily slip into the creases/crevices of a suitcase. Or hide in a side pocket.
I recently cleaned out my husband’s suitcase, and I came across a zipper pocket that I didn’t know was there. It was full of ink pens and a super old package of mints.
They expired 3 years ago! If the pens or mints were illegal he would have been arrested on the last international trip he took.
Judging people we don’t know about a situation that we weren’t involved in doesn’t make a lot of sense.
12 years is insane. God bless all of them and their families.
Yes that’s my position. This should be a fine and release. I’m sure the majority of their tourists are Americans. Should that stop I guarantee these things will stop being an issue.
We Have MAGA IMMUNITY.
I think these third world countries need to find out what it’s like to not have American money flowing in. Time to boycott.
Unless there is evidence that these guys intentionally smuggled ammo, I'll choose not to visit Turks and Caicos and keep my fat American wallet far far away from their tourist economy.
Good, cause we don't want to see you either 😂 smh
This is a warning don't go to this place ever
I love it there. I respect other countries laws.
Alternatively, one could respect their laws.
No one needs to be mindful of other countries laws
it’s ammunition not even a gun! this is sick! Biden needs to step up and bring these Americans home!
I can bet you said the opposite for Britney Griner
Maybe people should grow up and be responsible.
@@kingsleynwofe1244Exactly!!!!!!
No…. Americans need to follow rules of other countries. Period.
If someone came to America and broke our laws would you say the same thing?
I doubt many would. Americans need to learn the world doesn’t cater to us. We need to respect their cultures and laws the same we’d expect them to do here. If you’re traveling abroad why would you not double check your luggage if you know you carry ammo in it? No other country is as lax with guns and ammo like the US. They don’t tolerate ANY of it. It’s on the person traveling there to know the local laws and abide by them. Ignorance of the law isn’t an excuse or valid defense.
As an aside…Tyler is HOT
Traveling 🧳 has never been so scary and frightening 😮. So many things can go awry. Last time u traveled by plane was a headache. They literally almost didn't let me board my plane because my i.d. would not scan. I was scared abd i hadn't even done anything.