We built a SHADE HOUSE, STEP BY STEP, with COST BREAKDOWN!! Hoophouse. Greenhouse. DIY.
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- čas přidán 19. 02. 2023
- We needed more shade cover so we built a permanent, new, shade house to pile a bunch of plants in. Anyone with some basic DIY skills and a little bit of want to can do this! INSTAGRAM - / savvy_dirt_farmer
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"I talked with my plants and they don't care", love it! Good video for people like me who just love to grow things.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love listening to you. very educational. Im 78 years old and I just started my backyard nursery.
Excellent!
Profound statement. THE PLANTS DON'T CARE!. Love it.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 loveeee that bit of advice !!! “THEY SIMPLY DONT CARE “ ♥️♥️♥️ this is sooo encouraging honestly ! Thank you sooo much 🙏😊🌸🌺🪴🌱🪻
Start your bend 9” in then every 18” for the rest of the top rail for a 20 ft hoop house and your bends will be even and look consistent for the 3 part hoop. hope that helps.
I forgot to mention it is open on both ends so there’s plenty of aeration
I've been sitting on a galvanized steel commercial frame my uncle got from a defunct nursery back in the 70s, having no real direction on what to do with it. It's missing some connectors and others have original bolts that have become stuck within. I never thought to try chain link fence hardware, and I will definitely need that cross bar up top. All I would need in addition to that would be the 2x6 frame (this has actual welded on heavy steel plate slots that slide onto the boards and perch the hoops off the ground), the ww channels, ww, screws, and shade cloth. For winter I expect I could add the plastic sheeting layered over the cloth like you stated. Appreciate this video, now I'm going in the right direction🎉🎉👍👍👍
I had a backyard nursery after retirement until my truck was rear ended leaving me with serious back and neck injuries. I am using your site to teach my family how I did it.
Thank you. You are an excellent teacher for those of us who are visual learners and need to SEE rather than just hear all of the details. The Savvy family must be getting excited seeing things progress. Fun adventure. Psalm 91 over all believers.
Thank you!
Thank you very much.
Oh wow! If I ever get land, I will look into the Barn Owl box. Love the concept!
I'm glad your back in my feed again. I missed a lot!
Welcome back!
Even though costs vary throughout the country adding cost breakdowns is extremely helpful, Please keepmdoing this as you develop the property.
Great DIY and cheaper than buying a kit. Plus it's fun building stuff! And you're right, the plants don't care if it isn't perfect.
Exactly!
I agree! I'm a 65 yo grandma, and I love building stuff!
there's a better bender on the market
So exciting!!! Thanks for sharing your journey!!
Great job, looks awesome.
Awesome work! Thanks for sharing.
Really great tutorial SDF! Thank you so much😃
Good information. Thanks SFD!
Well done thanks Barry
I’m anxious to see you get your mist system set up in there. Make sure you show us how you do it. That’s one thing I haven’t done yet.
Impressive build,
Love that you 'talked to your plants and they don't care' 😂 The green house I built myself is not perfect either, and my plants said the same thing!
And, predictably, they'll say the same thing again, and again.
Great DIY VIDEO Thaxxs
I Love it !!! Thank ou
👍very useful parameters tips to build sturdy shad house , I’m going to build this e same thank you very much
I love how humble you are at 14:40 but you do a fine job
Thank you again for all the videos you produce, I will be using this direction to build my own this summer.
That was a great how to video. Absolutely loved it! Thanks for sharing. Spring is almost here!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The Barn Owl Box company has so much information about lots of birds!! A must visit and read! Thanks for the info!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge! Watching from Georgia, south part.
Looks great! You’re making lots of headway.
Great stuff ya'll, I'm collecting trampoline frames to build mine. Keep it up
Great progress! Nice clear instruction on how to build. 👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
One of your best videos! I learned so much!
Glad it was helpful!
I have a pipe roller, can't wait to build one.
That’s really nice. Thanks for showing this video. It is super informative for anyone to copy and do themselves. 👍🏻
Glad you liked it!
Thank you for this upload. Was eagerly waiting for this one🙂
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@savvydirtfarmer It's a great help. I will be making one in months to come
I'm so glad I found y'all. This is the most informative channel
Great! We're glad you're here as well.
Excellent information! Thank you for sharing this!
Getting ready to build another!
@@savvydirtfarmer Your video gave me the solution for a shade structure for my flower farm. Was going to use hog panels, which are pricey, shaped into an arch, but now will use the materials we already have on hand from a chain link fence that we removed from our property. 👍 Can you share the source for the shade fabric?
@@Whipporwhill it's in the link below. For a structure the size of mine, 20' wide, you'd need a 32' width... just FYI. thanks
He is a cool dude!😊😊😊😊
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Hi, we live very close to you, and I agree, the ground here is very hard and rocky, and the top soil is very thin. I have been gardening here for over 30 years, and dealing with this ground has always been difficult. I am looking forward to meeting you and your family, and checking out your new nursery. If you don't mind, I will come by one day.
We’ll announce when we’re opening!
I'm glad you shared your shade house build. I built one last year it was ugly but it did the job I needed to but now I what to build more of a permanent one.
Thanks
It's OK if they're ugly. You all have seen my old ones!!
Thank you sir. you are the most amazing teacher. You gave me all the courage to build my own again thank you.
You are very welcome
Good job mate so this is good explanation for how to build this
Thanks! 👍
@@savvydirtfarmer your welcome I hope you know I'm helping a mate do some veg patch in his back yard I will be using this to show how to do a shade glass hot house and they juggle wire I had no idea about I have used the plastic clips in the past from eBay but that wire seems a far better long term investments and easy to change out the cover like the clips
Sits down with coffee, pen and paper, 🤔🧐 I'm all ears! 🌽 🌽 🌽🤣😂
Enjoy!
Thanks for the excellent video! I was looking into building a poly pipe shadehouse, then stumbled across your video. It looks more sturdy compared to the polypipe design. We live in Queensland, Australia. Great explanation, thanks again.
Sure. thanks for watching!
I just love those hoophouses! I love owls too! You keep adding so many wonderful new things, I can hardly wait to see what's next! Will wait to see owl updates and photos! Good job Carly!
Thank you so much!
In extremely hot parts of the country. It would extend the growing season. I live in Louisiana. For years my tomatoes would give it up last week of July. Then I started putting a shade cloth over them. Have tomatoes all the way into middle of Sept.
Yes, indeed. Shade cloth has a lot of benefits.
One of the most important things that I learned from you is not only how important a shade house is, but how to build one at a reasonable price. Thank You.
Great! Everything doesn’t have to cost a fortune
The homebrewing hobby has a phrase for the same sentiment about doing things imperfectly (and for what seems like but aren't big accidents): relax, don't worry, have a homebrew. We need something similar for DIY.
Nice!
Supper👍👍 I am from India- kerala state, this is very helpful for me. Thanks 🙏🏻
Pro tip: tie up a ball with roap on the end of the clothe and then there's no need for ladders.
I realize the cost could vary based on regions, but love how you break down the cost to give someone a good estimate as what to expect
Yep. That was the goal,,, just to give an idea. thanks!
Check with your local fencing companies and they usually have used fence tubing that will save you major $.
I’ve actually done that before… only checked with 1 place - no help.
What is funny to me is seeing you pull out some bolts from a cardboard shelf ‘parts box’ that is exactly like the ones I use for hardware in my shop. 😂
Every time I’m buying parts I’m looking for an empty box to put them in
I'm glad you mentioned this video in the video you uploaded this morning. As somehow I missed this one. Life gets busy lol. But I so agree with you when it comes to structures like this. It ain't got to be exactly perfect. It's just gotta work for what it's purpose is supposed to be. As long as it's better than the crooked man that built the crooked house, I'm fine with it 😆.
Hope you enjoy it!
After slamming T posts into the ground with a hand driven post driver on my very rocky Missouri soil recently and being rib cage sore for a week or more I’m very jealous of that gas powered driver you just used! 😮
Loving this idea minus the hand post driving I’d have to do. Unfortunately it looks like my home depot doesn’t have the gas drivers I’ll have to see if a home town rental store has any.
Yes!! I decided a while back a great tool is worth the expense if I can afford it. The time, aggravation, and toll on your body are all things that can’t be replaced… totally worth it to me.
I built my greenhouse the same way and it is 20 x 60 which is a lot of space. We have a lot of wind so I did place braces on the two hoops at each end. We made it 12' high for tomato vines, but that was a mistake as I have to use a 10 ft ladder to work the vines. We can grow tomatoes 365 in North Carolina, but normally shut down on New Years and start back in March.
Would love to see that setup. Very nice!
Hey great video. Can you provide a list of the materials that you used?
I was wondering how you were going to connect the 2 halves together, I guess I didn't realize they made them with the beveled ends already, I mean I should of known. I've been buying the 3/4" conduit's from home Depot, they are only 5$ a piece, to make my hoop house but wasn't sure how I was going to connect the 2 together. I was going to use a fitting and put the 2 ends in it. Loving this project so far I've been wanting to build a half hoop house and have been slowly getting all the pieces too, I may have to try your way as well.
How has the barn owl box worked out?
Also what is a good shade cloth?
This is the video that i want to see for ages, i thought green house is premade and you just have to buy it all in one box. You on the other hand is a life safer
Great! Glad it helped
Sat through the whole thing to see how you connected the shade cloth to the outside frame since it already had wiggle wire and shade cloth on it and you didn't even show that part!!!! Maybe you could take one side undone and film how you put them together.....????
Just do 2 layers. 2 layers of wire will fit in the track. You could cover the whole thing in plastic, then cover the plastic in shade cloth. Wiggle wire is the coolest stuff!
Every screw I've used that wiggles with wind ends up snapping after a few years. Nails can bend back and forth many times without damage, but can pull out too easily (nail multiple at different angles to avoid them pulling out)
I've had a few screws snap myself... got a few to fix as I speak.
Never mind!
Great video.
When bending a pipe successively (a bend and a bend again on that same pipe), always mark the pipe bend direction so that you does not dog leg. So on that 10' end, jut put some painters tape on top or similar and before you start bending ... is that tape facing up? When you moved the pipe did it twist? If so, adjust the pipe. A dog leg is not just an aesthetic issue, it is also a length issue and could also successively impact your track path.
Good tip for sure. I do the best I can with what I have and with the ability (or lack thereof) I have. The way I have done these works well and seems to be holding up great. I haven't had any significant issues with twisting, but certainly something for me to pay attention to as I build out more in the future.
Such a great video!!!
Can top railing be used for the doorway framing and back bracing instead of wood?
Yes
Awesome video, thanks!! What kind of winds does it hold up to? I live in FL, and we get squalls up to 50 mph. I do not expect hurricane resistance, just summer storm resistant. What do you think?
Wind passes right through shade cloth. We've had 70+ mph winds here twice in the last year with no issues at all. The key is shade cloth; not plastic. That's a whole different deal.
Why didn't you install the wiggly wire canal tracks on your hoop poles while they were on the ground and you had clear and easy access to them? No ladder required.
Because I don't always think of the best way to do things the first time. Also, I'm not sure that would be any easier. Might be.
Sorry if I missed this information, but this sort of project more than likely requires a building permit? Thanks for the great videos and priceless information you provide. God Bless!
I live outside city limits. Those regs don’t existed here. Part of the reason I bought land outside city limits.
Love your Channel.
Would you put links of where to get the shade cloth material? Thanks.
In the description
Yes. Been looking forward to this. Thank you
The owl box is great !
You are so welcome!
That looks great! Do you have a link for the shade cloth?
In the description
Nice job. I'm interested in your benches and sprinkler set up if you put one in. Was 60% shade cloth used ? Thank you
I think this shade is 50. I like 60 better. 70 for shade plants… even better
Thanks so much for this video. So much great information. Just a quick question. What % shade cloth did you use? Or doesn't it really matter? I'm going to build a smaller one then add on as I can. It will first house bedding plants while I'm saving for my nursery stock. Thanks again for the info and the videos.
I use 50% normally, but 40-60 is fine for most plants, heavier if you like, for shade plants.
Did you use the same, uh... grade, of shade cloth in AL as you did in TN? I know they sell different grades/whatever that block different amounts of light.
Yes, 50%. 40-60 is good for pretty much anything
Do you run the wiggle wire completely to the top of the hoop house? How do you get clear up there on the outside? Also, how did you decide what direction to orient your openings? Did prevailing winds have anything to do with that decision? Thank you so much for the info!
Yes… all the way. I use 8’ stepladder. Top is about 10’. Winds? I don’t worry about it. Wind passes through shade cloth pretty well,unlike plastic.
Great info about building a shade house. Why black shad cloth vs white?
Good question. First time I built one, black was the only thing my local supply place had so I went with it and have stayed with it. There’s not more to it than that for me.
@@savvydirtfarmer white may look dirty after a while so black would hide that
What are the dimensions of your shade cloth? What size material do I need to cover the 20 x 40 hoop structure? Thanks. Great step by step.
Shade cloth was 40x32... had a little extra on all sides
where did you get that post driver from? Thats a super hack
found it!
Bro!!!
yes
I have two questions:
1) How much would a comparable kit have cost you?
2) Would this design work for a greenhouse with some modifications (you sort of eluded to this during the wire weave portion)?
Also, great job!
I see one online for about $860... does not include lumber or railing (any of it). Does include all hardware, so I don't know how that would work out exactly. My point wasn't to say "look how cheap I did this." It was simply, "this is how I did this." It's probably cheaper, maybe much cheaper to do everything yourself, even though it is certainly harder and more time consuming.
How are the green giants working out there in AL? I'm in zone 8 and wondering if it will get to hot for them to sell here..
So far so good. I see them growing all over the place also
You said you are using 50% shade cloth... is there a table or equation to determine what share you need at what altitude and latitude or zone or something? i would imagine you get a lot more sun that we do (The Black Hills SD).
I don't know about a table. Kinda depends on the plants and local growing conditions, as you mentioned. 50% is a good middle of the road. I've used 40-60%, all with good results.
can you use plastic pipes too so us not have any bending to do?
Plastic might be used on something much smaller, but I wouldn’t use it on anything near 20x40. If it were a good idea everyone would use it. And, I’ve never seen plastic used as a hoop frame except on very small structures.
did you get the shade cloth from bootstrap farmer? and are you going to continue watering by hand or are you going to install sprinklers?
Shade cloth? Yes. Sprinklers? Yes.
Where do you get your shade cloth from?
See the link in the video description. Thanks!
Did you also use wiggle wire and channel to attach the shade cloth on the ends of the arch? Formed channels tend not to bend well when they are laid on their side.
as an option:
Do you think that when the shade cloth is drawn over the top of the hoop structure you could also drape the end shade cloth under the top arch cloth so that when the wiggle wire is installed on the end it would capture 2 layers of the cloth in one channel and hold in wind?
Yes. The wiggle wire channel bends very easily... it doesn't kink (if that's the right word) at all. The top cloth and the end wall cloth lock into the same channel on top of the end rail.
@@savvydirtfarmer thanks so much for the quick reply. Did you understand my wording of potentially doubling up shade cloth and capturing it with one wiggle wire? Have you tried that?
haven't tried@@user-un1ts3yz5q
I grow and propagate plants for my own use. I have very limited space. But I have a 12 x 16 hoop house and inside it is almost 10 feet to the top of it. It is covered with nursery plastic. And I’m wondering if I can put a 50% shade cloth tarp over the plastic because it gets too hot from the sun for most plants in the summer. But I really don’t want to remove the plastic for several reasons. Do you think this is OK to do.?
Absolutely! Put the shade cloth on top; your inside temp will drop considerably.
@@savvydirtfarmer wow!
I got it installed and what a difference in temperature!
I covered 8’ of the 16’ and left the other half normal.
Thanks very much👍
I looked up shade cloth for hoop houses and see they come in all kinds of various percentages of shade (40%, 50%, 55%, 75%, etc.) What percent shade cloth do you recommend for just all-purpose use?
About 50%. Could be 40. Could be 60. Those will serve you well. Consider your region / climate. Brutal summers? 50% or 60%.
Being in the Midwest I'm curious how well this shade house would hold up to snow?
I would take the cloth down if it were going to snow. But I don’t live in the Midwest. I built it for the South. Could be pretty easily modified and braced a bit.
Where do you buy the shade cloth
shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1020530&u=3151152&m=72437&urllink=&afftrack=
where do you find shade cloth that large in one piece?
I get mine from bootstrap farmer - link in the video description
Hey, the barn owl box: is there any point to placing one on RENTED property inside of city limits in an increasingly urban area?
Sure! Why not? I honestly have no idea.
@@savvydirtfarmer fair enough! Lol thanks for the reply, enjoying your videos!
Hi there. I can’t find the large shade cloth locally. I am in Canada. Could you Please give me some key words I could use to search for this large roll of shade cloth. I’m sure it can be shipped from China or ordered thru Amazon business. Biggest I find here is about 10x30. Thank you so much.
I think you're on it... "shade" cloth is all I know it as. Check out the link in my description as well. Also look here...shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1020530&u=3151152&m=72437&urllink=&afftrack=
Owls are great, unless you have kittens or puppies. They'll disappear quickly.
What happens if you hit a rock with that post driver. My ground is rocky.
If it’s a big, solid rock, you’re stuck. But I have been amazed what it will drive through- when a sledgehammer or manual post driver has no chance.
@@savvydirtfarmer ……..nice to know! Thank you!
Did I somehow miss the top center rail being put on?
Yeah… I blew that. Talked about it a bit near the end.
could i attach 16:53 before putting up?
Yes, I think you could... just leave the 6" at the end of each pole for fastening baseboard. I haven't thought of doing it that way, and as I type this trying to think if it would make it any easier... might work! On second thought, there would also be an issue with the ridge rail cross connectors. They would have to be accounted for as they go over top of the hoops.
How would this hold up with snow?
Probably not well. It doesn't snow much where I live. I have had to take the shade cloth down for ice on one occasion... not a big deal
@savvydirtfarmer thanks. I'd use Plastic and Shade Cloth together as we are in the very northern panhandle of WV. I might build a smaller one to see how it holds up in our winners. I have some fence post that a tree fell on. I had the fence company leave. You never know what you can reuse said every hoarder everywhere 🤣🤣🤣