DCS Module Buyer Guide Review: Mi-24P Hind
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2024
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1:24 Capabilities
12:28 VFX
21:38 SFX
31:23 Interactivity/Detail
37:41 Flight Model
45:22 Difficulty
52:29 Summary
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Akso, are we gonna have a helicopter race/drag race/dogfight soon or wait for ah64d?
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@@grimreapers ooop you already did it. How embarrassing for me.
That navigation map brought so much memories from my army service as we had similar fully analog system in artillery's trucks :)
I just bought the Hind, and it is not as high tech as an Apache or the Black Shark, but I find tank hunting with the Shturm and the quick gun and rocket runs extremely entertaining. The hind is hard to fly at first, especially vertical take off and landing, but during combat maneuvers it is stable, a bit like a strike aircraft, I can shift targets during attack runs easily, sometimes I can take out 3-4 targets in one run. Great machine, great module
Maybe I missed your point but as a ex Apache tech, the paint on attack helicopters in general is meant to be flat/non reflective so as to not give your position away etc...
Yup that's a fair point. Not built for making pretty pictures right?
THIS is a Helicopter!
BUY! BUY! BUY!
...actually THIS module was the trigger that made me start with DCS 😅
nice
Much appreciated. Bought the Mi-24P Hind but haven't flown it yet. Still going through UH-1H campaign which is pretty long, but loving it. Had a quick fly with the DCS: SA342 Gazelle and really look forward to that! I'll probably hit the Mi-24P after the Gazelle though I'll be pretty tempted to learn to go directly to the AH-64D before the Hind. Either way, this vid will be a great guide! Thanks.
That one will be in my stable one day for sure and after seeing this I wish it was in there now. Thanks for the review.
What I like and I have seen examples in other modules, id the little flexing and bouncing of the aircraft components. For instance the pitot probe bounces independent of the aircraft as the rotor spins. the same things can be seen when aircraft are catapulted off of deck you can see the wing tips bounce separately from the aircraft's over all motion.
I think you've called it right Cap numbers wise. I love it, its so beefy and chunky and....and well soviet, which is a good thing in DCS as soviet = quirky and fun. The cockpit in VR is so immersive, and if I fly it long enough my brain accepts it's visual and aural surroundings as real, and then im away with the fairies.
Good work on an excellent and honest review Cap and RC, and a standing ovation for the devs at ED 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The mother of all gunships! If i was flying helos in DCS, this would definitely be on my must have list!
Best start flying helos
Right Control and Enter on the keyboard to turn the "show controls indicator" on and off. 22:28 Mi-24P Hind is an awesome module, great review, I would also agree interior is fantastic. It looks really good at night. Liked the video!
thx
Excellent review of this iconic rotorcraft
I really like that you have a more traditional directional trim, in addition to the trim button.
rgr
By far my favorite helicopter in DCS & one of my favorite all around modules in DCS. Gets better & better with each patch! Now I can’t wait for the Apache! I disagree with you on the way it pops in game!! I absolutely love it!! One more thing is your getting a lot of Helicopter for the money! I mean if you buy it on sale it’s only $50 & that’s super cheap for all the work that’s been going into this & still being done! Definitely worth the price!!!
Nicely done, Cap!
thx
I would love to see DCS come out with a WWII bomber. For single player, the bomber could have an AI copilot and navigator and AI at each of the gunner positions and for multi-player, you could fill as many positions as you choose with real players,
And it better be a B-17 Flying Fortress
Microprose are working on it.
with the actual dcs AI? good night...
I think the Huey’s multicrew would work.
There are 4 seats, and if there’s only 2 human players, the other 2 are filled by AI.
Then with a B-17 or whatever, if there were to be 2 players using it, there would be the pilot and a bombardier or navigator. When the 2nd player is the navigator, an AI Bombadier could give aiming cues for the pilot. If the 2nd player is the bombadier, the AI could be the navigator.
So all seats not filled by a player would be AI. So we could have like 5 buddies as the pilots, bombardier, navigator, and rear gunner, then AI would fill all other guns. It would work!
@@rhysgoodman7628 DCS already has a few WW2 fighter-bombers, but they only carry a few bombs at most. Having a squadron of B-17’s, B-29’s, or Lancaster’s in multiple player missions would really cool. DCS could have a multi-crew bomber that could be flown by a single player with AI filling all of the other positions on the bomber or the bomber could have every position manned by real players or there could be a mix of real players and AI manning each position in bomber.
For single player, DCS could make it so the player could switch between positions in the bomber at anytime during the mission, if they choose to. AI would fill the position the player vacates. A player could fly the plane, then switch over to the navigator position for a while, and if some enemy fighters show up, the player could switch between the gunner positions, and when the bomber arrives near the target, the player could switch to the bombardier position for the bombing run, and then switch back to pilot position for the flight home.
For multi-player missions, DCS Squadrons could have the bombers flown with real players at every position or a mix of real players and AI, if a group doesn’t have enough players to man every position on every bomber. Adding player-flown multi-crew WW2 bombers to multiplayer missions would really add an entire new dimension to large multi-player missions.
It would also fun for the opposing team to have some players who could pop in temporarily to manually operating anti-aircraft guns shooting at squadrons of bombers flying over head.
The angry sound you are referring to at 28:23 is the sound that the rotors make when they load up with lift. You will hear it in hard turns and when you do a maximum power take off in a real helicopter.
thx
Not my cup of tea personally, but it looks like a work of art and genius
If anyone is watching this and doesn't have the Hind....
BUY.
So damn good.
Definitely am able to load and unload troops the Mi-24P on the 80s blue flag server, there is no animation for it though
Yes, it's a great server overall.
I must say, the addition of more voice lines to Petrovich made this module infinitely better. Having to look away from my sight and instruments to see little floating text boxes really ruined the experience.
As with most helicopters, the secret to getting lots of kills with the hind is to stay as far away as possible from your enemy. Do not rush in to fire rockets like you are a fighter jet. Also be generous with dropping flares. You will run out of missiles before you run out of flares if you are doing things right.
Hey cap, small suggestion when filming the exterior views. When the info bar on the bottom isn't needed, you can hide it with left control y, I think.
thx
Best heli
Question as someone wanting to get into dcs helicopters, I've already decided to get the Gazelle as a light recon/hunter killer type chopper, what would you the community recommend for doing rocket strafing runs in a more dedicated air support role?
I have two rules when buying a module:
1. It has to be playable
2. It's easy to learn and use
I fill gaps like the F/A-18, F-16 and F-14 using VSN mods
Isn't it kind of defeating the point of a study sim if it's "easy to learn"? ;)
@@tomaszwota1465 I just play dcs for the realistic air combat. Not for its complexity
@@ayushthosar6005 well, fair. There's enough for everybody to enjoy different aspects as they see fit.
@@tomaszwota1465 yeah, DCS is a super complex and fun game. I know a lot of people who play for the realism
@@ayushthosar6005 Lot's of ways to enjoy the sim. I really like playing with the sandbox of stuff, putting on some tunes and blowing shit up. But absolutely the realism - the high detail and love put into the aircraft - That is why we're all here.
Those shadows of the airframe.... at 24:28 . Is that dcs or the shadow settings?
It would have been cool to see both this one and the one with the moving gun in the front.
Yeah, I think the same, it would be an interesting option and it would make the gunner seat more appealing. On the other hand the rotating turret has "only" 12,7 mm, it can be good against infantry and unarmored targets, but it is just a pea shooter compared to the twin 30mm.
That's radioactivity gauge behind gunner right shoulder.
wow!
You didn´t mention that you can put your finger in the spinning fan and stop it!
you can?!"£?!"?!"?4e. efksopjsd fSF
@@grimreapers I think only in the back or front seat, but yeah - you can
dude when you said then you'll go play war thunder me and my friend looked at each other lol
Where do you store the cucumber sprit
question do you have a collective pitch stick? If not whats the best way to control a chopper? At the mo i have joystick for cyclic but no pedals but can teist stick. And throttles of course.
Twist stick that should read.
I just fly helicopters mainly and i can do the most delicate stuff just with a Saitek x52. The twist has a fair amount of travel. The throttle is my collective. And i have a Trackhat setup, for head tracking.
My big gripe with the Hind is the cockpit glass reflections & outside terrain/clouds interaction at night in VR, it looks really odd.
rgr doesn't seem to be problem with non-VR
Gotta remember the hind is matte painted so it doesn't reflect.
rgr
40:38 - you probably meant Stalinium.
rgr
What scenery map is that?
If I recall the Hind's wings produce up to 23% of total lift at speed. And the aircraft can only hover for a total of 16 minutes before the engines must be inspected for damage due to the weight of the aircraft.
That is incorrect and a common misconception. Hind can hover indefinitely until it runs out of gas. As long a you load and the weather and air density allows for it. Depends a bit on your load out. If your at high elevation at over 30 degrees with full weapons and fuel you might have to dip into takeoff power which has the limited time frame. However standard loadout you can hover in indefinite cruise settings just fine.
This is also the case with most helicopters the Apache is the same way if it's fully loaded.
VRS shaking effects are going to be added later.
thx!
I may have miss understood but can you have 2 human players in the the one helicopter?
Yes!
2nd.
I'm sure.
Normally a helicopter starts to shake more when u come from a descent into a stabilized descend. So like you give a lot of descent rate with speed and then you slow her down and apply power so it’s well above VRS it starts to shake well.
Yeah I am a real Heli pilot 🙈 sorry
But how tough it is? What caliber can kill the crew inside :)) ....for science....
Just recoded that vid. With interesting results...
@@grimreapers Cheers Cap!
One thing that annoys me much in every module is the broken shadow on the ground.
This kills my "immersiveness" emmencly.
agree
first
i think.
Why it call Mi,simple it call because it have MILLION buttents to press before take off XD
Try the Mi-8 then...
It's pretty much a "turn everything on" sort of startup.
It's WIN wing not WING WING
I cant put my finger on what makes me not like the Hind. Bought it, tried it and just wasnt my thing.
Yup it's a very love or hate plane.
whats wrong with war thunder i like war thunder except for the fact their chageing the br of the 234 puma from 3.7 to 4.0