The Current State Of Chainsaw Man
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- The Chainsaw Man manga. Let's talk about it.
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Personally part 1 felt slow until reze and were roughly 40 chapters in part 2 around when Reze was introduced so I believe the pacing is going to start picking up
I'm kinda thinking just like part 1 picked up the pace with Reze I'm thinking in Part 2 it'll be similar with either Reze or the Longsword guy making things really get into the nitty gritty
Oh yeah speaking of Reze …
I just reread up from chapter 40 to 138 and yea the story honestly just keeps getting better and better from then on
@@QuickThekidd I'm fairly certain 140 will be a chapter which will lead us into a break again, so it's likely gonna have something crazy.
I'm in the boat who thinks Chainsaw Man is blazing fast at all times. The amount of content per chapter has been wild so far in part 2. SO MUCH stuff has happened a with the characters and we're just 40 chapters in. It's even faster than part 1 honestly. I think people just think fights = fast which is actually the complete opposite for most shonen animes/mangas
I truly believe that Chainsawman (part 2 included) is consistently one of the most entertaining reads ever for me. Always a blast.
Same especially rn with how the story in part 2 is shaping up my endorphins going crazy
So true there is always something cool happening, and it always gets me wondering about what could happen next, and thats a good sign
Its mid
Part 2 is not good imo
Except from the last 3 chapters which were bad straight up
Been hearing lots of flak towards the second part, and I gotta say, even tho I’m not the absolute biggest Chainsaw Man fan out there, I gotta disagree with some of the criticism. I do agree that it’s a slow burn, but I feel Fuji is working towards something.
I’ve enjoyed him building up Asa, and I look forward to where he takes it with Denji and him balancing his desire to be Chainsaw Man and live a normal life. I could see some Spider-Man kinda stuff being played with there. And honestly, I look forward to it.
Also, to some people it feels extremely slow because they were binge reading it. Chainsaw Man didn’t exactly take off as it was releasing but more so after part 1 finished.
I just love the subversion of the typical secret superhero identity trope, where Denji is actively TRYING to expose his secret identity but each good opportunity to do so is prevented at every corner. Mf really do be having the wildest conflicts for a protag
@berk6413 his main motivation is booty. And he is willing to do anything to obtain it (consensually) honestly one of the most relatable characters ever.
@@berk6413 exactly I love that too 🤣 if I were to file any other complaint with CSM right now, it would also be I expected progression from Denji when the girl asked him to suck on the tentacle. Fuji really had us in the first half. I was happy for Denji and him changing, only to then actually suck on the tentacle 🤣😭 it’s funny, but at the same time it kinda shows he hasn’t changed. Then again, I’m still a teenager and can fully advocate for us wanting to make changes in ourselves only failing to do so. So then again, it’s kinda a realistic and relatable portrayal of teenagers 🤣
@@NinthShinigamiThat’s a fair complaint, but the past couple of chapters directly addressed Denji’s sexual obsessions and his desire to life a normal life so it’s pretty likely those aspects of Denji’s character will be explored throughout part 2.
I would rather have something that is slow but takes its time rather than something that tries to cram every single idea in span of very short chapters just for the sake of having "hype" moments that are just brainrots. And that's what a lot of people are nowadays, brainrots whose attention span has been ruined by whatever is shown on their screens. The world we reside is one that encourages people to take things further and faster before moving on to the new thing. Gone are the days when people had been critical and had a wider perspective over everything else.
Couldn't agree more! Let Fujimoto cook.
You act as if its either this or that. The extreme and not in between. When in fact csm p1 pacing was close to perfect. Where as the pacing for p2 is sluggish which accomplishes nothing. Not adding the retcons
It's not just slow, it's in my opinion incredibly messy so far. We start with focus on asa and her friend who also gets killed in the most bizzare scene in the manga that has yet to be explained (ridiculous), then the focus goes back to denji and we have a bunch of unnecessary, little scenes that take up entire chapters, then we get an awesome interaction between denji, asa and nayuta which immediately gets thrown out the window with nayuta magic'ing everything away erasing asa's memory which was incredibly disappointing and lame. Then we get the fall devil segmant which was pretty cool but not much else and from time to time we get yoshida and the makima 2.0 character which are both incredibly bland in my opinion, and now we are at this point with that ridiculous chainsaw man church cult crap and it's just like come on man what was the point of all these twists and turns and jumping from one thing to the next, no new character is even remotely interesting as the ones introduced in the first part and everything feels like it goes nowhere. You trying to claim that the very appropriate critisism of the current state of the series just boils down to 'people dumb' is pretty low. I honestly kinda wish it ended with part 1, it read like an incredibly written, rich, badass, extremely creative blockbuster action film. Now I don't even know what to make of it.
This is only tangentially related to the video, but something thats been on my mind since rereading Chainsaw Man is that it's nowhere near as wacky and zany as people make it out to be. Like, people talk about CSM like its Dandadan, but its not. I actually think that they are kind of like inverses of eachother. Dandadan is a wacky fun story that can be serious sometimes whereas CSM is a serious story that happens to have a good sense of humor.
I agree with this so hard. The whole reason why I love csm so much is because of how serious it takes itself.
Yes it has some genuinely hilarious moments, but having comedy doesn't automatically make something a gag manga or whatever.
Dandadan is just unbridled nonsense at times and it's one of the most fun manga to read, but I definitely feel like people seem to forget just how grounded CSM really is
It has a serious narrative with serious themes, but a completely ridiculous plot lol. The main character is a horny doofus, a lot of the side characters are just memes, there's absurdist humor in nearly every scene, the pacing goes so fast it's like a joke in itself, and it has plenty of wacky "wtf is happening" type moments like Dandadan has. You remember like 3 chapters ago when Denji went to karaoke and a bunch of random dudes with straight faces and baseball bats started attacking him out of nowhere? Yeah that was completely normal lmao
@@sprawlz6466 True but that doesn't happen ALL THE TIME.
In fact it hits hard only because of how much it contrasts with everything that came before it.
Same goes for part 1. Lots of grounded SOL moments, which are then followed by crazy shit like a shark being ridden through a tornado
@@badpiggy4177 Oh I think I see your point. I mean if it happened every single chapter then it loses it's effect and it's no longer funny (cough cough Dandadan cough)
Fujimoto is creating a lot of variables in part 2. He is building toward something grand and we just need to wait. I’m in for the ride man.
I really miss the warmth Aki and Power, but especially Aki, provided in Part 1.
Just caught up to the manga and man, part 2 smokes part 1 out of the water when it comes to pure enjoyment for me. The slower pacing is amazing and yet there is not a single frame wasted. Asa, Denji and Nayuta are amazing characters, the dynamic between them hits like a truck and personally, I really do enjoy the fact that Denji finally gets to live a normal life. And to watch them grow through that is enough for me.
Csm part 2 has been a lot of fun but I’m trying to see where it goes on from here
I don't get it why people don't understand the reason behind the slow pace. In part 1 Denji was fighting devils 24/7 as a devil hunter but in part 2 he is exploring his normal life and trying to figure out what he wants to be.
I honestly love the whole slice of life part of Chainsawman. It’s interesting because of the action and death dump we got in part 1. if we really getting a trilogy I don’t mind using part 2 to give us more buildup with all of these new characters.
slice of life gets boring when it goes on for more than 40 chapters you know, especially in a series that’s known for action and intense storytelling like CSM
@@CJ-qv4sd that's called world building and character writing and it's far from 40 chapter between fights are we reading the same story?
@@CJ-qv4sd You can have slice of life and intense storytelling and I honestly feel like the action is still really present, especially when you compare the early chapters of Part 1 whit those of Part 2 and I think it's clear that Fujimoto wanted to do something really different and I think it's better than just doing the same over and over again, my advise to you if you feel a little lost on the direction the story is taking is to let the chapter stack up, avoide spoilers and come back later when the story is way more andvanced, that's what i've been doing even tho chainsaw man is my favourit manga (I couldn't help it and I read some chapters tho don't be like me 💀💀)
@@aleximose1302 your right maybe i should focus on manga that’s actually peak right now like jujutsu kaisen
If only CSM part 2 was on that level
@@CJ-qv4sd I mean yeah if peak for you is when there's alot of action Jujutsu kaisen is perfect for you
I been saying, people complaining binged then started following weekly, I’ve personally been enjoying part 2 but also can’t wait to go back and binge it. thanks for spreading the message masked.
Idk, CSM is literally the only manga that has ever given my brain enough feelgood chemicals to make me keep reading every single week without the need for a break. Part 2 hasn't changed that at all.There is plenty going on.
Denji is feeling a bit aimless at the moment, but that feels by design. The guy is still coping with losing Aki and Power, and now he is being forbidden from turning into chainsaw man, which is something he loves doing. And not only that, Asa is stealing all of his fame, and there is nothing he can do about it. He is just letting his base instincts lead him right now. I am sure that will eventually lead to something. Asa is currently just enjoying her newfound fame, and we'll have to see where her story goes when she returns to the spotlight. As for the bigger threat looming in the distance, that would he Nostradamus's prophecy. We are eventually going to see more primal fear devils. There is also Fami plotting her shit, and the innevitable arrival of the death devil (who may or may not be a primal fear themselves). I think its great. Lots of moving parts. Definitely slower pacing from part 1, but i dont mind that. I really dont need a fight every couple chapters to keep me interested.
"the only manga that has ever given my brain enough feelgood chemicals to make me keep reading every single week without the need for a break"
Try Kaoru Hana, I dunno. Or Dandadan.
Honestly SAME
leaving a manga for a few months to then binge it really is the best way to go. Reading a series weekly really kills its momentum, especially with something like chainsaw man.
If only I had the self control for that. I'm just too obsessed with Chainsaw Man unfortunately. I do that for basically every other manga tho
@sprawlz6466 read another completed manga to shift your focus off chainsaw man because atleast you would be obsessed with something completed
Yes and no. Some manga have really long fights, and letting a series build up for even ten weeks only to have one fight take up that entire time can be a bit exhausting
@@pizzariotin been there done that. The Chainsaw Man obsession is never ending. Once a favorite, always a favorite
It's kinda both true and not necessarily
Like if you read a really important chapter on its own you end up thinking about it way more than if you were to binge it alongside 30 more chapters. Like you notice more details and generally appreciate it more. Some of the stuff that happened so far prolly wouldn't stay in my mind so much if not for that factor + seeing the community collectively losing their shit over it
But then problem comes when you spend a few months reading waiting week by week and then it's all set-up chapters
I'm currently having that with Oshi no Ko, chapters come out every two weeks and the author is fleshing out side characters instead of advancing the story
Like I know when he finishes the story I most likely will in retrospective be glad he did that, but man the waiting is killing my hype so much on that one
As long as Denji doesn't get Agni'd, I'm happy.
LIVE
He was an awesome main character. He got his happy ending. Eternally. 🙃
I think the slow pacing is making it enjoyable to read weekly. I definitely agree that it feels “slow”, but at the same time, it feels like each chapter is building up. I’m hyped.
All manga feel slow on a week-to-week basis - that's why this pacing complaint happens for basically every long-running manga series out there. Part 2 actually has the same pacing as Part 1 if you go back and read it in one sitting... We're just not sure what it's all building up to yet, so it's harder to gauge how fast the overarching plot is progressing.
From what I've read of his work, many of Fujimoto's stories can feel a little aimless at the start. But by the end, once the themes and characters have been fully realized, you can go back through them and realize that almost no time was wasted. He's remarkably efficient with his storytelling.
part 2 hasn't been slow at all since the failling devil arc started.i don't understand why ppl are still saying this
It's whatever to me. Like you, I let chapters accumulate (usually it's 5 or 6) before I read through them. I think Asa and Denji's relationship is charming and I'm interested in seeing where that, and the rest of the story, is going, but I ain't in a hurry. These days I find it hard to get hung up on stuff like pacing and just kinda let things rock, mostly cause I'm really really really busy with other stuff in life lol.
I just think in terms of pacing its right on track cause this is Denji's "Normal life" his part one life was insanity lol
The issue with CSM part 2 is that we literally have no idea where the story is heading because there isn’t really an antagonist or any looming threats on the horizon besides maybe the Death devil or Fami.
at that point we didnt have the makima reveal in part 1 too. and the death devil reveal will come.just wait and gove the story time wtf
@@derEichorn_hochbegabteMeinung there were multiple hints that Makima was going to be an antagonist throughout part 1 if you paid attention
When part 2 first came out I thought yoru was going to be an antagonist with the way they introduced her in the story but now it feels like nobody is really an antagonist and it’s all about denji and asa alongside other side characters that I barely care about.
This is literally how part 1 was as well if you just read till the Katanaman arc or just the first 40-ish chapters. Just give it time is all
@@CJ-qv4sd what is with yoshida and his little group lol? its the same twist like part 1
@@derEichorn_hochbegabteMeinung he wants to give denji a normal life…
I really do enjoy csm part 2. Man this part can easily touch you. Each chapter we see a character learning or realizing something and sometimes it just feels relatable because in the end they are just highshoolers and there is so much they don't know and so much they want to experience. I really like Asa's build up and I really enjoy Denji too. Many chapters are funny as hell. What's more the world building is quite intriguing with the horsemen of death, the prophecy, the hell devils and the chainsaw man church. Fujimoto is cooking as usual and his writing is so different than anything I have seen
Tatsuki Fujimoto's works are somehow similar with Quentin Tarantino, their first breaktrhrough were their extremely niche one (Fire Punch and Reservoir Dogs), then the second masterpiece (Chainsaw Man Part 1 and Pulp Fiction) were both artistically and commercially, but when you compare it to their third (Chainsaw Man Part 2 and Kill Bill), they finally realized how to make a real suspense even though the flow of the story is kind of a slow-burn. What I'm trying to say is that Chainsaw Man Part 2 looks different from Part 1 because Fujimoto doesn't want to romanticize his previous works, he doesn't give a single fuck about critics from their fans or haters (same goes to Tarantino) as he knows he's already put his name on everyone's radar, so once his writing goes hard all of a sudden again (especially in Act 2 and 3), that critics would eventually turn into a compliments by how unorthodox his direction is and make their haters (mostly generic battle Shonen's readers) question their taste.
Chainsaw Man is never a battle Shonen in the first place, it's a character-driven story, not a plot-driven one (like every Shonen reused over and over). Imagine how dull you are to think Vinland Saga weren't as good as its Prologue where it was all about non-stop action and battle, it's truly a shame that not everyone could appreciate Seinen's story (only a Reading Comprehension Devil's victim who doesn't tell that CSM is supposed to be a Seinen rather than Shonen even though it's published in Shonen Manga)
So basically your trying to say CSM should’ve been a Seinen…
@CJ-qv4sd Absolutely. Fuji should go the Jojo route and have CSM transition into a seinen with Part 3.
@@Sneednfeedn Part 3?
Great take. Chainsaw Man has never been about the fights or the devils. Those spectacles act as wonderful appetizers to the character arcs that are the true meat of the story. It's a seinen that got lost in a shonen magazine.
I feel a better analogy would be PArt One is like Kill Bill and Part Two is like Kill Bill 2. Seeing as Kill Bill was the fast paced one and Kill Bill 2 was more of a slow burn
I binge read from around the ending of part 1 all way to chapter 128, and even if I'm just over a month in of reading chapters weekly I still felt the slow pacing and as you said, the story takes two steps forward then one step back. In that sense it's probably also a good idea for me to just let chapters stack up and then read everything in one go
I enjoy it. I’m gonna let fujimoto cook
I don't think it's slow.
In fact, I think each chapter is very much packed with new things being unraveled left and right.
And there have been culminating points throughout these past few chapters. It's not like all the chapters have just been 'talk talk talk.'
And I agree with the observation that when things kick off, well, things might not stop.
Chainsawman Part 02 feels like a first few full acts of build up, with minor highs in between.
With a final act that will, I believe, blow people's minds.
In fact, I even think it might have Fire Punch levels of pacing towards the end, and I see that as a good thing.
People's attention span is so short rn that they can't deal with the setup of a story lol
I think the important thing to note is that Part 2 just can't be the same as Part 1. Part 1 is one of my favorite manga stories of all time, but I don't think Fujimoto should just try to replicate that, and he likely doesn't want to either. We just have to see where it goes
Ironic you say that because so far Part Two has been a literal mirror of events from Part One.
I don't really get a feeling fujimoto himself knows where he's going with this honestly. Part two doesn't need to be a mirror of part one, absolutely, but in my opinion it also doesn't need to be the slow mess that it is.
Let the best newgen author cook.🗣🗣He did this with part 1 and there are TONS of videos of people talking about how part 1 is "peak fiction" Fujigoato is cooking 😭🙏🔥🔥
I’m not sure if anybody feels this way, but I like part 2 a lot more when it was focused on Asa than Denji. We already got a lot of Denji from part 1 and now in part 2 I feel like a lot of the screen time he’s gotten could have been used on Asa instead. Not saying Denji isn’t interesting anymore, but we already know his mindset and character, I want more of Asa/yoru interactions.
Im on the opposite side of this
ya i feel you i wanna see more of Asa and maybe Nayuta
We probably will soon, considering how little Denji POV we have gotten. This is good.
I was very surprised how much I loved Asa. This manga has 2 of the best main protags I've ever seen.
i love asa but i don't think denji's character building is done yet. i enjoy him more than asa because i find him more funny and interesting, maybe because im biased since we've seen him since part 1, regardless i have no complaints with his screentime in pt 2
I haven’t gotten my hands on Chainsaw personally but how Sufferents speaks about it makes me enthusiastic to give the story a shot.
I think the artwork got a lot better in term of facial emotions
I gotta agree but I didn't like the art especially in facial expressions in part 1 anyway
I’ve been enjoying part 2 personally. The new characters are likable, the plot is interesting. But daaaaaaam that fight with the Falling Devil didn’t need to go that hard to the point where one chapter alone contained 4/6 double page panels man. Fujimoto is just cooking like a mad lad.
Chainsawman is still amazing i think my love of the story has grown even more since part 2 started. The aquarium arc was perfect.
Aquarium arc is the most wholesome arc
Lovely video as ever masked
Lik the characters you have read in different series or medium and as they grow as time passes
You also changed masked
And i happy 😊
Please keep making great content like this always 👍👍
I totally agree with your observation. So many of us got into Chainsaw Man when it was in its later stages, or even when it had already ended, so the experience of binge-reading such a high octane series compared to reading it once a week feels more like short bursts rather than one long fuse.
Not to mention, the first 30-40 chapters of Chainsaw Man are pretty comparable to Part 2 so far in terms of pace and development, so again, I think it's just a matter of perspective.
Always a good day when masked uploads
There is alot of plot points in part 2 rn.. (Denji taking care of Nayuta, Asa having a crush on Denji, Yoru trying to fight chainsawman, Yoshida watching Denji, Death devil lurking, Fakesawman, Hybrids, Chainsaw church, Hell propechy, Denji finding blood devil to turn them back to Power) but Fuji usually causes the chaos all at once
I’m gonna be honest, in a few months people are gonna forget about the “slow” discourse. With the recent chapter it’s obvious that the story is picking up speed again and we just needed time to establish some things before we dive headfirst into the chainsaw man church and possibly even get some returning characters from part 1 if you really want a slow paced manga, try reading berserk during the boat decade, now that was slow.
The four horsemen type beat...u have cool outro art
I'd actuelly find it really funny if it just stays like this. Just Asa and Denji bonding and eventually just having a happy life together. And the series ends with those two just being happy.
The series already goes in ways nothing else ever has. So a shojo-esque ending would be kinda fitting in my opinion.
Hey bro,I love the chainsaw man content. I am going to say that I do agree with you in that the first part of the manga was more hard hitting for a lack of a better word. When I started on the chainsaw man last year, I read the entirety of part one in like a month (I was completing my last year as a junior in high school)
I definitely noticed that part 2 of chainsaw man more focused on the emotional growth of certain new characters as well as how denji has grown as a free person,without being binded by some shitty contract to be taken advantage of because of his powers. I'll say with certainty that this change of pace will take some getting used when compared to the balls to the wall action in the first part but it will eventually grow on manga readers (Albeit Slowly)
Great video, man 👍
I feel like Yoshida and Famine not being very developed kinda works, because if he were to give them the same type of attention as he gave Aki and power than it would feel like those 2 got replaced. By not getting a 2nd pair of side characters replacing the originals the void they left behind feels more, well felt.
The thing is like u said we truly don’t know where the story is headed I feel like in Part 1 we had an idea like during and a little before the Reze arc, but rn we don’t know which route Fujimoto is taking which I honestly see as a positive and excites me
After the last chapter I think it's safe to say the story is starting to move faster especially the reveal of sword man and the other weapon hybrids working in the chainsaw church which means reze quanxi and katana man are still alive denji agreeing to join the church and all of that in less than 2 chapters I think the story is definitely starting to move faster
Great video man!
i totally agree with you are the best youtuber in my opinion please keep making videos because i will keep watching them
I just wish the chapters ware longer i mean imagine watching a show but you only get to see 5 min and have to wait a week
The Vinland saga syndrome
I haven't watched the video but I'm consistently smiling whenever I read a new chapter
Thankfully it’s been picking up the last few chapters, I think it’s fine that it’s being a bit slow because it just fleshes out things and it’s probably going to be long and since it’s my favourite series I want it to last till I’m an adult
I would like to hear your thoughts on TYBW anime adaptation maybe after this cour ends. cuz i remember in your reviews you was anticipating sum Kenpachi fights
i loved this video so much so good thanks for this information pog champ kekw pausechamp..
For me, it wasn’t that the pacing was fast for part 1, rather it didn’t waste my or many other readers time. Almost every panel or dialog had more to it than getting the point across. Also, nice vid 👍
I think my biggest problem with part 2 is that there is no real goal or direction for the story of the characters. Characters just show up and do things but there's no real context to their actions. Apart from denji and asa we don't really have any understanding on any of the other supporting characters. I'm hoping that soon there will a chapter or two that starts giving context for everything that's happened and set's up a direction for the story.
this is exactly my thoughts on the manga right now, well said man
I don't think there will be a moment of expository explanation for the reader about what is really going on, I think there will simply be a point where all the pieces of the puzzle will be on the table and we will have to assemble it
I'd definitely think there's a bigger picture going on, like why did haruka hear that denji and asa were going to have a date? The same date that asa doesn't remember cuz nayuta erased her memory, why throw in that scene with haruka? What's the deal with fami and yoshida? What the hell is fakesawman, I think Fujimoto easily planned out the whole story, otherwise there would be no reason to throw these little details here and there
Just gotta let the man fujimoto cook.
How many chapters is the initial part of csm could be? 40 chapters? Not complaining just curious as how long can the initial part can be called.
It like Part 2 so far. I feel that it's low key doing it's thing and when it will reach it's climax it's will blow up
"was chainsaw man fast with its pacing or did it just feel fast because you had alot of chapters to read?"
the chapters fujimoto has released seem to be in the correct pace since hes doing biweekly and weekly. too lazy to reread chainsaw man part 2 so cant really say much
every time a new CSM chapter comes out its like Tatsuki Fujimoto giving me a soft kiss on my cheek
Facts it’s so hard to even want to keep up with it anymore it’s just fillers that are not fillers
personally I haven't felt like it's been progressing slowly,I really like the small character interactions and what Fujimoto is setting up
I think like part 1, part 2 will be much more hype on a binge
So far part 2 has been so much more interesting thst part 1 in my opinion. Asa has become my favourite character in the whole manga
I agree, first time i read CSM all 97 chapters had been released so i read it all in like 5hours(was addicted to it), and know that am reading it weakly the pacing does feel kinda slow. So i recommend ya'll read it after 5months it will pay off.
I think it’s been pretty good honestly, I wasn’t to big on Asa at first but she’s actually a lot of fun. Glad the falling/heights devil showed up although I feel it was a little underpowered as this is a fear that is instilled within us that isn’t taught like darkness. There was just so much more they could have done with it and wasn’t a big fan of its design either with the whole cooking thing.
As for being slow, I don’t think it’s the pace of the story, it’s more the pace of the manga release itself that feels slow so each chapter you get you are hoping it jumps to the insanity pay offs we had and instead we watch denji go on a date, but then you end up enjoying it and seeing him pull an Oldboy which makes it worth it.
It is taking awhile but I don’t mind waiting, not a fan of the horrible time frames writers have to deal with but I definitely do not enjoy reading mangas that aren’t already finished which is what I luckily got with the first part.
there are so many looming questions from part one that havent been answered though like
1)who killed the gun devil? It was stated that after its first appearance its body was found and split among all the countries of the world with no perpetrator ever named
2)what primal fear is pochita? Or atleast what puts pochita on that level.
Its pretty obvious from his fight with the weapon devils and his description from makima of “being killed but pulling his ripcord and revving again.” Simliar to the falling devil in no matter what denji did to her
she just seemed to never die pochita is just as immortal since he is literally stated to have been killed but never reincarnate(the exact description of a primal fear) pochita is more similar to the darkness devil in combat than any other devil we have seen (moving faster than people can perceive, overwhelming aggression, and has a reputation of fear from two sources that actually gives him power unlike makima who was feared by devils and humans but only her fear from humans gave her power)
3)what did the darkness devil want with pochita and why would it also want makima dead?
Darkness devil didnt speak at all, so all we know is that it made a contract with the doll devil to bring pochitas heart to hell and they also used that to lure makima back to hell and makima does that. Even quoting “bidding me to come save them darkness?” So we get no real info on the darkness devils motivations or “dreams” since we know all of the stronger devils like pochita and makima have dreams that kinda contradict their existence(pochita wanting hugs even though hes literally chainsaws, makima wanting a genuine equal connection, even though her power is to artificially make connections and dominate others.)
And thats just a few i think about often
It is slow but you can easily see its building up with all the unknowns that the reader doesn’t know now if we don’t get any answers for the part and Denji and Asa doesn’t get together in some way then this chapter might be hated
CSM part 2 is great but I think it has 1 big issue, it lacks a strong main cast at the moment, Asa and Denji are for the most part separated and surrounded by side characters that only appear when necessary. I think this is why the aquarium arc is my favorite of part 2 so far despite it being a soft reboot of a part 1 arc, Asa and Denji, the two main characters, finally meet and interact and try to figure out the situation they are stuck in together.
i feel like i’m searching for a high the first part gave me, but it’s just different, it very much is a slow burn and i gotta accept that
unrelated to the video but I thought of the question while reading more manga, how far can anime truly reach with animation because animation cant always get better, at some point its going to get repetitive and such
I’m just waiting for Reze. I want to see how Asa would react to Denji and Reze dynamic.
I think the story is paced about the same as part 1 cause csm has just been alot of alot character moments broken up by absurd action. Only reason i imagine it feels slow weekly is cause fujimoto goes on break frequently just to give us 14 page chapters.
the recent few chapters are good.Earlier chapters too only felt short because of more double page spreads and the breaks
It probably only feels slow since most people came after binging part 1 and are now following weekly. Fujimoto is most likely just creating "rising action" up until the grand conclusion for part 2.
so far i really like csm part two but as of the new chapters it feels like marvel after endgame like it tries to hype somethin up and fucks it over.also it seems like fujimoto has given the mc role back to denji which i hope isnt for long because i would like to see more of asa
What are your thoughts on the newest chapter?
Well , in part 1 denji growth with his family types friends and now part 2 he is growing as an adult trying to take responsibility for his actions and try not to make mistakes like power and aki , from the past , im certainly sure that chainsaw man will go up in the next 20 -25 chapter because author is making everything is ready and kinda adding new pieces together but at the end of the denji will slay his enemies in the stupidest way of possible like makima
I love people man they want good stories development everything but don't want build up don't want to wait for good stuff to happen it's seems contradictory but it's how it looks.
Alot of the time, the issue is just how people consume the media. People just skim through and dont actually understand what they have just read. Important plot points and character development just get ignored if it isn't delivered with a BANG!
Chainsaw Man part 1 set up alot of very intriguing plot points and essential pieces of the characters in the beginning at a "slower" pace. Chainsaw Man part 2 is doing exactly the same thing, but now it looks like the climax will be even bigger than before! More fuel means more fire.
It definitely can feel slow at some points if you are just used to regular shonens. But Chainsaw Man is different. It is great at building characters without 24/7 action. Character developement isn’t sudden and its story is great if you ACTUALLY read it.
Even when it feels slow to the audience, it is still great at mixing high octane action when necessary. At the end of the day, I'm just happy to see more Chainsaw Man content.
Great music choice at the end, Xenoblade has some amazing music
Lots of videos lately😀
CSM part 2 just ain’t it so far. I really hope Fujimoto works his magic and turns this into something incredible because right now its pretty disappointing. But let’s wait and see if he cooks something amazing.
I like part 2, but I think it does have problems and they are not "it's build up, we just have to wait" type problems. My main problem with part 2 are the side characters, they are either uninteresting like the demon hunter club president, or they are too in the background like fami and Yoshida (yes I know they are being build up to do big things in the future and they'll probably have payoff, but let me elaborate).
Take for instance part 1, at this point of the story, about 40 chapters in, we had had the katana Man arc which gave Aki lots of character development, some of his most human and emotional moments in the show, we had side characters that showed up for very little like Himeno, but that had emotional arcs, were well written and contributed to further develop the main cast. I'm missing moments like that in part 2, or not the lack there of, but the power of said moments. For example you could argue that Yuko served the same purpose as himeno, but it's just not as personal a relationship as aki and himeno, nor is the resolution of said arc as beautiful and satisfactory as "easy revenge", Yuko has some nice moments with asa, but the relationship is not built in such a way that we truly connect with her character, so when she is abruptly killed, it's really not as impactful. Also, in regards to Yoshida and fami, they are both serving a similar role to makima, being there as untrustworthy figures that loom around our main characters, but we just dont get them acting and carrying shit on their own to really feel their presence, like yeah the whole thing about the falling devil was orchestrated by fami, but we don't see them interacting with the main cast in such significant ways as makima did in part one, not only in progressing the plot forward but emotionally too, connecting or influencing characters, having interesting interactions further than "don't be chainsaw man, live a normal life".
I think the strengths of part two are asa your and denji, but when they are pulled apart from one another it kind of feels slower, the beginning of the story was fire, and the aquarium and post aquarium were we really were starting to get asa and denji to interact further generating tension and conflict was really good, but right now I think that the manga feels so slow because of what I've said previously, there just isn't as much emotional baggage in the interaction and relationships of characters as there was in part one.
Anyways, its fujimoto, I've read all his works and they are all fantastic so I believe he is cooking up something great, but I've seen too many people either wrongfully criticize part 2 for reasons that I find mistaken or defend it from the actual flaws it dles have, so yeah that's that.
Part 2 has been awesome. I honestly might like it more than part 1. Asa is such a great addition.
Fire Punch meanders quite a bit in the middle so I'm not too surprised. I'm withholding making any huge judgement calls but I'd be lying if i said i thought part 2 was as entertaining a read as Part 1 as it stands .
Denji's motivation in part 2 shouldve been finding the new blood devil fujimoto fucked up there
Everyone complaining it's too slow while I always thought it was way too fast. I wish more manga and modern stories in general would slow down and focus more on dialogue, character development and world building instead of jumping from action scene to action scene nonstop. Really like Chainsaw Man don't get me wrong, it's just a complaint I have about a lot of modern fiction in general.
More chainsaw man & Vinland videos plz do a video on Canute
Man, I really hope denji does'nt end up killing Asa or the other way around. Like its Fujimoto-sensei we are talking about, and hoping for a proper romance/relationship from his story is quite optimistic given his track record.
man, i agree and it hurts my soul.
we're on the 4th arc in 40 ish chapters, this really not that slow that's average if not slightly faster than the average shonen story progression
Public Safety saga was needed imo. Kind of like jjk would have been weird if they went right into the calling games without the Goodwill Arc😊
the entire first part was super fast and zoomed through it but w part 2 its clearly gonna be more of a slowburner but some of the chapters have been kinda underwhelming
Idk man, I feel like every chapter is a banger personally. Ya its not the fastest pace but learn or are shown something interesting every chapter. I'm honestly really impressed thats there's not a single chapter that felt like it was just buy time or pad
ok I just caught up to cam (chat 138) and here's my two cents on the matter.
I think the direction the story is taking is the best in the long run. the fact of the matter is, it is unsustainable for a manga to keep trying to escalate the stakes. if you do, the power level will just keep increasing exponentially and eventually the reader will truly be able to comprehend how high the stakes are. CSM part 1 had insane stakes. I was shocked at how fast things were escalating, it was exciting but also lord have MERCY. if CSM had kept up with trying to build off hype, it most certainly would have. just burnt out its readers and feel repetitive. the only actually sustainable story direction, in that case is t o do the opposite: reel the story back in and build up the characters: which is what the mangaka is doing.
the only complaint I have is that the manga feels quite all over the place, but I am trusting that the mangaka has a plan and we'll eventually be seeing those pay-offs.
I love part 2 so far. The karaoke scene was so good
Whenever the Bi-weekly devli strikes, it's so over... but then the chapter hits and we are so fucking back!
I actually kind of prefer csm pt2 over 1,don't get me wrong I still love both, but I feel like the pacing in part 2 just makes the story feel more like a story, instead of a slaughter-fest that worked so well in part 1. It's a different type of chainsaw man, a more sentimental csm focusing on different types of relationships and bringing the ongoing theme of relationships from and center.
Yeah I still have no clue what your talking about 😅
Only seen the anime & loved it need to rewatch in dubbed.
I’ll wait for season 2 not sure I want to read the manga. I really love the miner details in the anime that makes almost all the characters feel legit & not like a bot.
Great stuff going to watch your Vagabond farming ark