Hulk Hogan On Forming the nWo
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- čas přidán 6. 10. 2023
- WWE Hall of Famer Hulk Hogan joins Chris to discuss forming the original New World Order in WCW with legends Scott Hall and Kevin Nash at Bash at the Beach 1996.
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Full interview, brotherrrr: czcams.com/video/Mb6HPEOp6Vo/video.html
Love It CVVCLIPS Brotherrrrrrr Dude Jack.
“No brother, that doesn’t work for me”. Look! He said it! 🎉
Say the line Hulk...
Lmaooo I had the exact same reaction, laughed uncontrollably
At least he owned it 😂😂
@@noyb12345 just took him 4 decades... or 5...
@@bluntamainia444when you're the GOAT
When Heenan said that he told us all for years, it was one of the greatest lines ever said as it transcended companies and eras. Masterful.
In a Q&A with Bischoff, a fan asked why they didn't have a face Heenan family have a feud with the nWo. He responded he was excited just thinking about it when the question was asked.
Heenan added so much to the nWo and later to Goldberg. And it was so perfect that instead of siding with hogan as a heel announcer normally would, it was I told you so. Perfection.
I remember when he said it and as a 80s kid I was like holy shit Bobby was right.
Heenan tried to ruin it
The wrestler who draws the most money is the top guy. Makes sense.
How do you know somebody can't be a draw though if they are never given the chance?
@@williamnimbach6419lots if guys sorta get a semi run i think, thats how they decide whos going up there and whos staying up there.
Id imagine guys like jeff hardy must have moved crazy merchs in his 08 run because he was booked so invincibly despite his trouble outside the ring.
Same prolly goes with cena and reigns(post shield).
According to Bischoff in his book “Controversy Creates Cash” even he didn’t know Hogan was going to do it until he showed up that day.
But honestly, having Sting turn heel would’ve been bigger. Hall and Nash were WWF guys but Sting was WCW through and through. That betrayal would’ve been even bigger than Hogan turning heel.
Hogan knew NWO was gonna be a huge money and he wasn't missing that train
The NWO would have failed if Hogan wasn't part of the group. The closest would have been Savage being the 3rd man, in being successful.
@@alanguagesYep! I was 11 years old when that happened and my friend called me to let me know that Hogan turned! So I turned it to WCW because at the time I rarely watched WCW and was hooked from that day until about early 1999
I wish Savage was the 4th member and Hogan dropped the leg on Luger instead. It made more sense, but I guess that is hindsight.@@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325
@@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325Same here it was the summer going to 6th grade. The most shocking moment ever
@@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325 the heel turn was at a pay per view event. I'm sure you watched it the next night on Nitro.
This HAS TO BE... THE MOST HONEST Hogan Interview, EVER... WOW!!
Yeah I believe it because what he said about mean Gean nose bleeds he mean Gean said in an interview before
As much as I don’t like hogan his Hollywood hogan run is the greatest heel work ever done. He was masterful in that role because he got to be himself.
That last line was the most honest thing Hogan's probably ever said.
Hahaha
Hogan was smart.
All due respect to Sting, it wouldnt have worked. Its not a knock on Sting at all. The third guy had to be a WWF guy, no one else. Hogan was the poster boy of what the WWF was. Sting was all WCW. He needed to be their rival
Sting wasn't as big as hulk, not to mention, No one ever thought Hulk would get bad, people grew up with red and yellow, so hulk was perfect for that
@@marathiboi96 Everyone knows Sting wasn't as big as Hulk
Correct for all the reasons you stated. Sting was the perfect antithesis to the nWo, which is why when he joined the wolfpac it messed up the whole thing.
@anthonyanderson9303 Honestly, the Wolfpac was working and could've worked well. Hogan and Bischoff hated it because they were making Hogan's NWO look bad, so Hogan cried his way into the wolfpac backstage, thus giving us the fingerpoke of doom, killing the Wolfpac, Hollywood NWO, and Goldbergs mystique in one night. Everything done in 1998 was rendered useless in that one night. Then we had Hogan wearing JNCOs talking gangster "My trigger finger, Brother!" It was cringe and sent most of us to the wwf for good.
Really enjoyed those nWo times
I dont know what to believe from Hogan anymore, he lies too much brother 😭
He's telling the truth here. Hall, Nash & Bischoff have all told the same story many times.
Yeah I believe it because what he said about mean Gean nose bleeds and mean Gean said in an interview before
Basically bischoff needed a faction to take WCW in a whole new direction
The first metting where Scott hall made the suggestion about Hogan turning heal
He had been a good guy for over 20 years a sudden radical change like what they were proposing had never been done before
The nwo is still being talked about and is on social media 30 years later
one of the best heel promos ever from the best babyface ever this why he is the best ever
"Hogan's not here yet; and if doesn't come, we're sending Sting..."
...who was already at ringside?
Hogan waited to see whether the NWO would be profitable or not before deciding to jump in. It was not because he was concerned about his legacy or the kids or whatever else
Not true at all, it's been well documented from every single person involved(Not just Hogan) that he didn't wanna do it and had to be convinced up until a few days before it happened, just because you(person who wasn't there)wanna believe a narrative doesn't make it true
@@bcal8118 so who was a next candidate if hogan refused?
@@dude8273Sting
All about money they way it should be
@@dude8273sting it was
When Hulk said, "This is the New World Order of professional wrestling brother!", it made wrestling great again!
He said organisation though.
Who’s side is he on?! - Bobby The Weasel/Brain Heenan
Is he the third man?!!!?
I know!! almost ruined it
@@-007-2no the hell it didn't lol. Heenan had been trashing Hogan for 20 years at that point
woah crazy to think about Sting be the alternate 3rd man. Glad it worked out for Hogan to do it.
It would’ve been trash. They would have had to make the biggest stretch in storyline to make it make sense
I’ve always wondered how y’all were going to “send Sting” when Sting was already in the ring.
See how Ted DiBiase Jr & Cody Rhodes formed.
Yea, I guess I think it’s odd they’ve never gone in to more detail about it. When Eric & Hulk talk about it, it’s always just “if it wasn’t going to be Hulk, it would be Sting.” I wish someone would ask what the actual plan would have been.@@TheRuns2
They had Jeff Farmer back there just in case I decided to stay a babyface, dude. I was going to come out and drop the leg on the fake Sting and crucify those jabronis Hall & Nash, and solidify myself as The Rock of WCW. Before Dwayne did it in WWE, it was going to be Hulk Hogan The Rock says I just laid the smack down on your candy ass, dude. And Razor Ramon, Diesel, it doesn't matter what there names are in WCW as the millions and millions of Hulks fans all chant his name "Terry Terry" if you smell what Im cooking brother.
The alternate plan from Bischoff was to send Luger back out to make a comeback, and then Sting turns on him to join the nWo.
But they didn’t have to discuss anything. Hogan was already good with the turn before the show started. Bischoff just wanted to make sure he didn’t get cold feet and no-show lol.
That’s what gets me about Bischoff. Possibly the most overrated person all time in wrestling. He literally had a good idea with the NWO & 2 years later they were out of business. He has LITERALLY failed at EVERYTHING else. ONE good idea.@@claytron3000
Yes!
That dialogue he did in the ring with Mean Gene after the heel turn you could tell it was right off the dome!
I always wondered what Sting being the 3rd man would’ve looked like. Making it look like he jumped ship to the WWF would’ve gotten Sting a ton of heat especially if he had cut promos saying he was done being the franchise of WCW. Don’t get me wrong, turning heel was awesome for Hogan at the time, but Sting joining the nWo with his dark crow look would’ve been a perfect fit.
Sting wouldn’t have had the dark crow look at the time that he would have been the potential 3rd man.
@@bixbycro at the time he was starting to transition to the phantom of the opera look in between that and the crow gimmick. Point being, had he been the 3rd man he could’ve pulled off the dark look sooner to embrace the change. Had Hogan not joined the nWo, in my opinion Sting would’ve been really interesting too.
@@5150crazyfun- Sting didn't go dark until the nWo started taking off. Kevin Nash's line: "oh look, here come the clowns" killed Sting and Luger's colourful face paint.
Hogan is such an icon, I love these videos. So cool to hear his perspective.
His perspective contradict other perspectives.
@@tonyclifton2230 So does Bret Hart's
@@wizzerwiser2056 yeah but when you have bret hulk and vince in a room you have three different stories. Brets is the truth.
Uh… no it’s not actually. He’ll do _anything_ to put himself over. He always embellishes and overindulges _in his own stories_
What’s next? It was _him_ who introduced The Undertaker to Vince?
@@jasonberg6550 Bret sells himself, absolutely. Hogan repeatedly lies in ways that are easily disputed by dozens of other people and including his own stuff sometimes (so either he's lying now, or he was lying then.)
"Ahh, ahh, he said it, he said the thing!". If you know, you know.
Love the video thanks
🙏💪
@@CVVCLIPS✊👊
THAT WAS THE GREATEST MOMENT IN WRESTLING HISTORY.
Nah
I'd say Hogan bodyslamming Andre at WM3, but this was up there.
Can't argue with the money thing
Hulkster doesnt look much older from his WCW days
Besides the titanium rods keeping his spine from crumbling like Jenga blocks, yeah he looks great!
@@reymondlopez7468 Didn’t know you think about a person's spine upon looking at them. Still made me laugh lol
Not what Eric said. Eric said he asked Hogan and he said "you wouldn't understand until you walked a mile in my red and yellow boots". Then Eric said he wasn't sure Hogan was going to do it.
Both have been known to lie.
@@juliandavidhoffer2022 Funny enough though, Hogan has told that same story that Bischoff did🤔😆
Love how he mentjons Austin wearing a John 3:16 shirt 😅
Why is there a neon sign saying Budlight official sponsor? 🤨
Thank you, Hogan...
So if hogan didn’t agree to joining the NWO the Plan B was going to be Sting but it had to be Hogan
The right decision
@@joecorrea8254yeah with Sting it would have probably been boring by the end of 96.
@@watersandblue6001 it would’ve been boring because it had to be Hogan because his popularity was dwindling & he was starting to get booed more & more
@@MR-RED428 yes and also like Hogan said Sting didn't have that WWF History behind him. Like Sting was beloved yes but he was no Hulkamania Draw and his Heel Turn wouldn't have been as shocking and favorable as Hogan's.
I was 11 years old when that happened and Hogan was the perfect choice, because he was a WWF guy and Sting would not have made sense just like he stated
For what it's worth, Nash has talked about this as well, and what he's said is pretty much in line with what Hogan's saying here - Hogan was hesitant, Sting was discussed as an option, and finally Hogan agreed at almost the eleventh hour.
Mean Gene even talked about getting hit with something & bleeding from his nose as well.
Bishoff has said that Brett Hart was also an option for the third man but Brett backed out of negotiations at the last minute and went back to WWF. Only to get Montreal Screwjobbed less than a year later.
that was the best decision Hulk hogan ever made to go heel & form the NWO restarted his career , hated him for it but it worked
I sat at that same table lol
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No you didn’t
@@TrollAlert-xv6qg totally ate my Philly cheese steak at that table but okay.
Sting would’ve made the crew so corny lol
Like Luger and Sting in the nWo Wolfpack in 98 when Luger and Sting took turns patting each other on the ass in their entrances with big smiles on their faces.
Hulk droppin knowledge on these marks..
Hulky come lately.
He said getting old they were losing ratings people got tired of hulkamania he saw what the nwo was and joined
No , that doesn’t work for me brother
And this WAS Confirmed By Kevin Nash that He and Hall were NOT sure Hogan actually Confirmed (that's why if you look back,you can see Nash's Concern at Bash at The Beach. You could SEE his "Wheels Turning "in his head" so....Terry isn't necessarily Lying on this part
Kevin Sullivan also confirmed this
Groundbreaking
Nobody told Hall&Oates?
The match involved outsiders vs Luger, macho and sting. How was Sting gonna walk down there? The outsiders must have had some inclination
Bro you keep changing your story
That doesn't work for me brother
😂 only when Hulk's ready
0:33 He said the thing, he said the thing
Nothing more fun than a full on riot at a wrestling event.
What about Pastamania?
"How is that total bullshit helpful" 😂
The guy who makes the most money is the top dog. Everyone else toes the line. Thats how its always been.
This guy obviously doesn't do his homework, for him to say only WCW had people go crazy. Well he should go back to 1997 where WWF had a huge riot who Shawn Michaels started.
Wasn't the original idea of the nWo supposed to be ex WWF wrestlers taking over WCW? Sting probably would not have worked regardless.
That’s the problem with fly by night booking
I’m not sure why the 3rd guy would ever be Sting. Seems like Macho would be the more natural choice or at least Luger. Sting was always WCW.
Hogan saying he’s a better wrestler than Austin 😂😂😂 bigger maybe, but better? No fucking way
I'm mean, they both were great wrestlers, Hogan in Japan, and Austin before breaking his neck
Not many people watch his stuff from his Japan days
Wait didn't Eric Bichoff and few other try to convince Hogan to turn heel
We watch wrestling knowing it’s a dramatic show.
We listen to Hogan for the same reason, not believing a word he says.
Huckster also said he wanted the original nWo to be him, b.brian blair and his rat beefcake so
What's a "work" and a "shoot"?
“Work” means predetermined and cooperative. Shoot is for real.
@@Fantasyremix ah, thanks
Hulk was Great as a Heel Dude.
Hogan talking about the best wrestler getting paid the most 😂😂😂
I think Sting would’ve been fine as the third man. What wouldn’t have been fine was whoever fills the actual role Sting was in as that anti hero. Very few could’ve had the impact as the good guy vs the NWO with how over and popular
the NWO was. I mean any time the NWO was out there taking over and beating up WCW wrestlers the crowd every time was chanting we want sting we want sting. He was every bit the draw and maybe more than the NWO. I was 18 and I was in 7th heaven every time he made an appearance it was like a drug to me. He was clouded in mystery and wonder. It was like time stood still when he showed up. Hogan was amazing but Stings apposition to the NWO made the whole story legendary till wcw effed up the 97 starcade main event.
nWo
Hey is that the guy whose cat attacked him?
greg gagne invented the nwo brother
Good thing that Chris Van Vliet has a skin complexion that works for The Hulkkkster brother.
Hulk Hogan is right be the 3th guy in the nwo don't work sting is the 3th guy in bash at the beach hulk Hogan is wwf wrestler sting is wcw wrestler sting is not wwf wrestler this is wcw vs wwf at bash at the beach in 96
Nash hall and hogan all wwf guys... all saved wcw for the time being because if the nwo had not existed wwf would of been put them out of business
America was Hogan's idear.
How could sting be the alternate guy to come out if sting was already out there in the match with macho man? Is Hogan embelishing the story or lying?
Hogan is 100% correct. The best wrestler is the one who makes the most money. Always has been that way.
They're the ones who bring ya to the beach. Maybe one of the other wreslers gets you to stay at the beach. For me, it was Randy Savage that got my attention, but the cruiserweights and guys like Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels kept me glued to the television. I was hooked from there.
Doesn't work for me brother.....literally the answer for any story anyone else ever says
If sting turned heal it won't work because who would have been your face when no one else was over and especially over sting at that time fram as a face and fans never accepted sting as heel
[GO]: Hulk Hogan, excuse me. Excuse me! What in the world are you thinking?"
[HH]: Mean Gene, the first thing you need to do is to tell these people to shut up if you wanna' hear what I've got to say.
[GO]: I have been with you for so many years; for you to join up with the likes of these two men absolutely makes me sick to my stomach. And I think that these people here and a lot of other people around the world have had just about enough of this man and this man and you want to put yourself in this group? You've got to be kidding me.
[HH]: Well, the first thing you gotta' realize, brother, is this right here is the future of wrestling. You can call this the New World Order of Wrestling, brother. These two men right here came from a great big organization up north and everybody was wondering who the third man was. Well, who knows more about that organization than me, brother?
[GO]: I've been there, I've done that. You have made the wrong decision in my opinion.
[HH]: Well, let me tell you something. I made that organization a monster. I made people rich up there. I made the people that ran that organization rich up there, brother. And when it all came to pass, the name Hulk Hogan, the man Hulk Hogan, got bigger than the whole organization, brother. And then, Billionaire Ted, amigo; he wanted to talk turkey with Hulk Hogan. Well, Billionaire Ted promised me movies, brother. Billionaire Ted promised me millions of dollars. And Billionaire Ted promised me world-caliber matches. And as far as Billionaire Ted goes, Eric Bischoff, and the whole WCW goes, I'm bored brother. That's why these two guys here, the so-called Outsiders, these are the men I want as my friends. They are the new blood of professional wrestling, brother. And not only are we going to take over the whole wrestling business with Hulk Hogan and the new blood, the monsters with me, we will destroy everything in our path, Mean Gene.
[Fans pelt the ring with garbage]
[GO]: Look at all of this crap in this ring. This is what's in the future for you if you want to hang around the likes of this man Hall and this man Nash.
[HH]: As far as I'm concerned, all of this crap in the ring represents these fans out here. For two years, brother, for two years I held my head high. I did everything for the charities. I did everything for the kids. And the reception I got when I came out here - you fans can stick it, brother. Because if it wasn't for Hulk Hogan you people wouldn't be here. If it wasn't for Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff would be still selling meat from a truck in Minneapolis. And if it wasn't for Hulk Hogan, all these Johnny Come Lately's that you see out here wrestling wouldn't be here. I was selling out the world, brother, while they were pumping gas to put in their car to get to high school. So the way it is now, brother, with Hulk Hogan and the New World Organization of Wrestling, brother, me and the new blood by my side, whatcha gonna do when the New World Organization runs wild on you? Whatcha gonna do? What are you gonna do?
GO: Hey, don't touch me, I got a fleet of lawyers. Tony, Bobby, Dusty, dammit, let's get back to you.
[TS]: All right, we have seen the end of Hulkamania. For Bobby "The Brain" Heenan, for Dusty Rhodes, Gene Okerlund. I'm Tony Schiavone. Hulk Hogan, you can go to hell. We're outta here. Straight to hell.
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Sting would have messed it up
No he wouldn’t
They had given up on the WWF Invasion angle, after week 3. That angle where Kevin powerbombed the dude through the entrance, they were already over it. The actual promo for that is those two guys claiming that they are not working for the WWF
How were they gonna "send Sting" when sting was in the match?
"Hulk Hogan isn't always honest'
-Same person who thinks Dave Meltzer is relevant and always honest 😂
The host needs to invest into a better studio…it looks like this is being done is somebody’s break room. I keep expecting someone to walk-in to heat up their hot pocket
lmfao
Far be it for me to call Hogan a liar....but... I heard this story years ago from a Nash shoot interview and these two stories don't match
Original plan was Sting to be the third men.
It was the backup plan, not the original plan
Yeah sure everyone knows everything is a work
Hollywood Hogan > Red and Yellow
Sting woulndt have worked and nwo would of died against the red and yellow express and the creatuve control
The gull on Terry for lying again. He must get off for 10 seconds at least every time he talks
Should have a nose bigger than hhh
Where is he lying in this video?
@@michaelburke7978a lot of people just dislike hogan
Hogans like the one uncle you know that kinda embellishes and 90% of what he says is bullshit but you just let it go because he’s family, who cares hard to remember everything from 30 40 years ago
Chris finally interviewed someone scummier then himself, well done.
Sad that every Hogan interview is completely worthless due to his constant lying.
In your mind
@@jordannewsom3606 Nah dude, I'm his mind
@@blackholesupersloth3276 Oh that changes everything
@@jordannewsom3606 The worst part is when he's telling a story, and I start noticing little white lies. Stories become pointless when you can't trust the teller.
Another hogan lie....telling mean gene to get out the ring due to blood coming down his face....there was no blood and he finished the interview and left on his own after without a word from hogan
Mean Gene said that something hit him and he told Hogan he was responsible for that.
@wizzerwiser2056 just watched it again you see something hit mean early on, there's no blood he just carries on till the end
Maybe after the show went off the air.
@@superbantam523 Yes he does embellish the truth to the upteenth degree but something did hit Okerlund that part is true
Another infamous lie frol hul kogan 😅
How can anyone genuinely believe anything to come out his mouth? 😂
Fr. They should stop giving him a platform to speak altogether 😅
What did he lied about?
Because he made a lot of money in professional wrestling unlike you.
@@juliandavidhoffer2022 😂😂😂
One of if not the biggest BS’er in the biz. I swear his stories change every time he tells them.
“Starting to lose a little luster??” Gimme a break Terry Eugene Bollea! It had been stagnant since 91!! Or didn’t threw a tantrum at Vince, asking him to edit the RR 92 audio, on account of the cheering us fans did when Sid eliminated you? And as for its run in WCW, it never had that aura. I call BS!
Yeah. Vince was “forced” to do something by a wrestler.
lol.
@@MiningForPies that’s not the issue here. The issue is that by late 91, the Hulkster gimmick was stale AF and us fans were fed up with it. We cheered so rabidly when Sid eliminated him from the RR that they had to edit it.
@@maturanita yeah. If you read what I wrote, I called bullshit on Vince being forced by Hogan to edit it.
Hogan pitched a heel turn to Vince before he left but he was rebuffed. Vince didn’t think a heel could make money.
@@MiningForPies BS or not, Vince had that PPV edited so that nobody could listen to the crowd booing Hogan and cheering for Sid. Warrior also pitched the idea of turning heel, and Vince turned him down as well. Bottom line is, Hogan was stagnant by late 91.
@@maturanita and I’ve not argued against that.
@CVVCLIPS why dont you call out Hogan on his blatant lies. His whole Joe Rogan podcast has been fact checked to find so many inaccuracies in his "Stories" all to put himself over.
You got Hulk fucking Hogan in front of you and you wanna talk about his stupid lies that he makes up instead of asking the stuff that YOU wanna ask😂😂 clown shit
Because you don’t bring an old man on an interview to harass him.
He always acts like he always creates everything.. so many lies every time he speaks
We sending out sting who is already in the match... how to know hulk is a liar...
How about having Sting turn heel in the middle of the match.
I can’t anything hogan says any more is it lies is it truth is it just made up who knows
This guy is such a hated figure in the industry. Rightly so.
that movie was trash that hogan did