Korean âEvilâ Twin Tried To Kill âPerfectâ Sister To Take Over Her Identity
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The person who made me the angriest was the twins mother. Talk about a complete failure of a parent.
Both parents; the dad dropped his 5 year old with her because heâd rather make a new family than bring his child with him. No matter how horrible she is (very) someone else still put one of those children in her care and seemingly never checked in on either of his daughters ever again
The father too just dropping them to start a family
Right!!!
She had no choice đą
â@@tv-21 no choice? That's ridiculously untrue đ
They didnât just adopt them out separately. They place each twin in very different environments. One in a wealthy home. One in a poor home. They wanted to see how âthe same personâ would develop in each environment.
It was FKD UP.
is that the same experiment the triplets were in?
The mentioning of the twins being adopting out separately really messed with me. Thatâs crazy
Life is never fair that doesnât give you a right to kill someone just because your excuse is you grew up in a bad household
â@@SukiGameer I'm sorry but that's easier said than done.
Thatâs like the movie Twitches
Systemic racism is the worst. Why was Archie serving 14 years in prison for being a kid who was manipulated after being failed by his family and everybody around him? I really hope he is doing well. If there is a crowdfund for him I would love to donate to it
I was thinking that
Archie was the saddest part of thus case to me
i agree the Asian kid got less than a year tf. So crazy.
â@@queenbeemoon10 the Asian kid literally was in prison for 4 years? It was definitely not less than a year wtf r u talking about
There were two Asian kids genius â@@Gelthelhel
the saddest part for me is seeing the 2 teenage boys got their lives turned around for the worst because 2 twin sisters are "fighting" with each other. it's so unfair
The mother's favoritism over the twins is just so infuriating. She failed her children before and she's still fails them even after the case by continuing to play favorites. đ
I'm a twin, and my mom always hated me. It did have a effect on my life, but I stayed as much as she allowed to keep my twin and 2 little sisters safe. It was a different time back then. I tried to tell. But then I was just shipped off again for being manipulative and a problem. You just learn to shut up. What doesn't kill you only makes you crazy right? But I'd never kill my twin. Mom ehhh debatable. A girl can dream.
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â@@kellyrickard3833youre telling me your fine self has a double? Thats dangerous.
@clark2491 not completely identical. I'm clearly the prettiest princessđ€Łđ€Ł
Also I'm not sure when is the last time I have even uploaded a video here lol. I'm a country chick that obsessed with her chickens đ€Łđ€Ł
Twin cases always scare me. Thinking your second half, the person youve spent your entore life with, is the person who will end yours.
Same my best friend is a twin an her sister is the complete opposite of her I always feel like she is jealous of her
Same here! It's horrifying! God bless you in the name of Jesus Christ, who is the name above all names & the only way to Heavenâ€
Good point... seriously
Even if they are fraternal? Sibling rivalry in of itself is scary and just seeing people pass it off as petty sibling squabbling is pretty alarming.
Me staring at my siblings shuffling away
Iâm a twin and can 110% say that after sharing a womb with someone for 9 months, it would be irrevocably damaging to separate twins for 5 years then reunite them. I certainly donât think it would turn me homicidal, but it would be deeply epigenetically and emotionally damaging to the parties involved.
Epigenetically đ€đ€đ€đ€đ€đ€
Learned a new word today, thanks!
â@@mkayy736Bro over here is jealous because they don't have a good vocabulary lol
As someone in the same position, I 100% agree with you. I'd be a fundamentally different person without my twin even for just those few years. Parent trap sounds like the premise for a horror movie now, doesn't it...
I wonder if it is different for fraternal twins. But I still shared a womb with my twin brother and grew up alongside him, so maybe it would be different without him after spending 9 months in the womb, even if we were in different sacs. I never considered that
I'm a fraternal twin. My brother and I are inseparable; we even bought houses across the street from each other. I cannot imagine my life without him.
The competitiveness and sheer disdain the twins had for each other is probably born from them having to fend for themselves as children and having to fight each other over food!
Exactly my thoughts. Never knew this girl before, now youâre fighting her over a couple eggs to not starve to death. That would lead anyone to dislike the person in the house with them
That part reminded me of the boy from the kimchi killer story.
I agree. The fact they didn't spend the first 5 years together and then got left in a situation where they were in competition for survival was probably the whole reason for their relationship being how it is. I'm sure if they had been always raised together by one parent up to 5 they'd have faced that challenge together rather than having to fight. I also assume the twin who had been with the mother was already very neglected when the other joined them.
â@@blake9033 sad đą
respectfully it does NOT justify any part of this case, my brother and I lived in a similar environment plus physical and sexual abuse and while we did get into serious physical fights we are still normal people. simply put sunny's twin is a failure, she is a bad person who should have received harsher sentencing
Isn't Sunny's 180 REALLY suspicious during the trial? She suddenly had her mother, bf, etc all turn against her after being victim to a crime and had the Korean community side with her sister. I feel like she was being heavily pressured and maybe even threatened to change her tune in some way.
This whole family situation is really fucked up and confusing.
Social pressure can be a nightmare when it comes from an entire community.
It may have been that many people from the community and the mother expected Sunny to forgive Gina. And possibly speak up for her so Gina doesnât get a long sentence. When Sunny didnât agree with them because not only did her sister try to kill her(!) but also she and her sister have been huge rivals pretty much since birth. I can imagine she had very, very little empathy for Gina (understandably). I donât trust or put any faith in their motherâs judgement or actions as she is a deplorable human being. Itâs possible the bf and Sunnyâs relationship was never that solid really, and based on the community pressure he thought it best to stand against her and walk away. This is just my thoughts on it.
Sunny was Gaslighted and Manipulated.
The Korean community are very religious. Almost all the Korean American families that I know go to church every Sunday. I think they wanted Sunny to forgive her sister. Her mom probably felt bad when Gina called her out on being bias, so she's trying to act like a good mom and support the other one since she's the one being convicted. All in all, I personally think they are all messed up. I only felt sorry for the boys if it's true that they were dragged into it.
not only is the Korean community religious, they have their age hierarchy, just like Stephanie said. Just from being born 5 minutes early, Sunny is the oldest. Although that earns her some respect, that also means she has to take care of, and put up with Ginaâs behavior because âsheâs younger and she doesnât know better.â So they probably also expected Sunny to be lenient and forgiving for being the oldest
My mom is an identical twin, she said people always compared and favored one over the other. As my mother, she went out of the way to never compare and favor me and my siblings.
I'm an identical twin but we grew up together. We did well in school and were put in different classes, so teachers would not be confused. We both got 99% in the national collegiate entrance exams, though her scores were higher. We got scholarships from different universities. But jealousy is a feeling I never felt. We took very different courses. Now, that we are old, we try our best to help/ comfort each other. I'm now a widow while her husband is still alive. She comforted me during that time. So, I don't understand why you would kill your twin. This is very sad.
The two boys should have just gotten something closer to rehabilitation. Putting them in prison at such a young age for something they didnât want to do in the first place, is just going to turn them into actual lifelong criminals. 1-3 years with community service and therapy would have been far more useful to make the world a better place.
Especially Archie's sentence made me really sad. He was 15-16? Got coerced into committing something he didn't want to and otherwise wouldn't had done yet they gave him 14 years. Thus is insane and possibly due to his race
Unfortunately, that's what happens to black boys in the US.
Yes, it's so wrong!
Totally agreed. Made me angry to hear his sentence.
I feel that they shouldn't have been put in jail!!
The fact that archie got 14 years is unthinkable.
Poor kid
Did he ever get out?
YeahâŠfor comparison, my friendâs murderer got 17 years. So did my uncleâs murderer. How did Archie get 14 for not killing anyone? Terrible.
â@@lanoosaurusrexpossibly for also resisting arrest
@@tnlkb6115heâs also black. If he were white he most likely would have gotten a lighter sentence.
I'm 20 minutes in and just wanted to give my take so far. As a twin who didn't know I had a twin until I was 13, it did nothing to prevent me from forming an inseparable bond with my sister. We grew up with very different lives - I was raised alone with my less than competent father in one country while she was with our mother in another country living a wealthier and healthier lifestyle than I was. We both grew into decent people separately and endured separate hardships but when we found out about each other we were immediately inseparable.
The part where Steph talks about the separated twins feeling like they're missing something is accurate, but it's a very subtle feeling that I really struggled to understand until the feeling actually went away. I think the best way to describe it is disorienting, like the life you're living isn't right. But at that point when that's all you've ever felt it's hard to put your finger on it.
parent trap?
@@Maquiqui LMAO I've heard that a few times. Yeah, pretty much.
â@yuyu8506 Sorry, May I ask why were you raised in 2 different countries? Like, did your mom or dad moved after you were born?
â@@eybisborjasvargas6889 Hi, no worries I don't mind the questions haha. My mother moved back to her home country to live with my grandparents (/her parents) after the divorce because she didn't have a place to stay and had no job - she'd originally moved to Canada (where i was raised) to live with my dad but obviously that didn't go very well. So I had to stay here with my dad while my sister moved with my mother over there.
Imagine finding out suddenly as an immature child, there's another one of you. How insecure must that have made the both of them. From that point on they felt they had to compete for the validity of their own existence.
The mother triggers me af, she is def the one to blame for their competitive nature
omg Ur pfp is like â€đđđ
Give her a break. She has a mental disorder đą. Yall must never been addicted to gambling before. It's a helpless disease. đą
Parents usually are, unfortunately
The Mother is responsible for all their problems. She should be in prison.
How about BOTH parents!
The fact that the mom is so cold towards Sunny is baffling to me. It's not her fault that Gina tried to kill her and steal her identity. Jeez
according to what we can gather of ginaâs personality in this case, i think she wouldâve emotionally manipulated her mother to take her side. Especially with her break up with her partner, the mum wouldâve been able to relate to much of the things gina felt towards her twin- feeling left behind, betrayed ect. surging his, i believe gina wouldâve been able to twist her mothers favour out of pity and relation. Again, as the other is also emotionally vulnerable and seems to have such a disconnect from her kids (demonstrated through her neglect) it would be easy for her to switch so quickly and be swayed so easily from favouring one of the twins to immediately switching to become so cold
The mother is definitely disturbed. No decent parent would favour one child over the other.
Not baffling at all. Being Asian raised in a traditional Asian family, the child does not get to speak out against the family, even if there was CA or SA. They will blame the victim for bringing public attention to something theyâd rather resolve privately.
The letters sent in by other asian families blaming western media for sensationalizing the case says it all. Esp as a girl, you bow your head, take the abuse and stay quiet. Work hard and forget it ever happened. Bc thatâs exactly how I grew up. And what happened when I spoke out. Public image is very important in traditional asian families.
If youâve never read up on narcissistic abuse triangles I would recommend it. Given how she acted when they were younger the mother is almost certainly a narcissist. Itâs not going to make sense; itâs just not how regular people operate.
I grew up with a pair of twins that HATED each other. We used to be afraid of them when we were little because they always, ALWAYS ended up beating the crap out of each other. To this day I don't think either one has anything to do with the other
Please elaborate! This is so interesting. Story time!?
It's me and my twin brother. I hate him as deep as the ocean.
Iâm an identical twin. Me and my sister shared some glaring personality differences when we were young and now we are so alike yet so different. we have completely different fashion, different tones, different types, and some glaring religious differences. weâd fight some as teens but now are extremely close, and itâs eerie. we live across the country from one another. i found an obscure brand of Mexican candy that i liked, and for some reason i got obsessed with them and would eat it nonstop. one day while i was eating them i snapped a picture of the candy bag to my sister. she snapped me back and to me my surprise she was eating the same exact obscure brand of candy. she said she was obsessed with eating them for some reason. it was so creepy and we acknowledge how, despite living across the country, random parts of our life will overlap. we also say the same things at the same time without planning it; we hate when this happens but my friends and family think itâs so entertaining. being identical is definitely a unique experience. we were also exposed to âstudiesâ as children.
really studies?? what kind?
Archie's sentence absolutely breaks my heart! His background and how he was taken advantage of makes me wanna cry, everyone failed him
Gina earning a behavioral health degree is scary. She will use that degree to manipulate people as she was doing already without any professional training.
Yes, she's out there puppeteering
Exactly my thoughts
I was a Psychology student for 9 years, so I can attest that it doesn't work that way. In a nutshell, we're taught the history, theories & learn about traits of various mental illnesses. We learn about basic facial expressions that everyone recognises when someone is happy, sad, or angry etc. In Neuroscience (a huge branch of Psychology), we're taught the physiological aspects of the neural system. For example, how neurons communicate & release neurotransmitters. This in turn, contributes to behaviour, emotions &/or cognitive functions. My point is we look at Psychology mostly from a scientific point of view. It's shocking that 200 people liked your comment & agree, even though there's no evidence that we're taught to manipulate people. That's how misinformation spreads so easily, which leads to misconceptions. Manipulation simply comes down to personality traits, which can be used for good or evil. But it's mostly for bad reasons, so it's considered a bad or negative trait. Your environment & those around you, can teach or mould you into becoming manipulative too. In that case, I highly advise the person to leave that group before they become just like them. Nobody likes manipulative people, so they're often miserable people. IMO, I think it may stem from narcissism, believing you're above the law &/or you do it for fraudulent purposes. Some people are either born evil, or are nurtured into becoming evil due to their environment, their upbringing &/or the kind of people they're surrounded by. You are who you hang with, they say & it's often true. It has nothing to do with learning Psychology. The only job I can think of where you're trained to manipulate, is if you work for the likes of Intelligence, or even as a police undercover. Some cops use very dirty methods to catch suspects. I looked into a career in Intelligence & came across that information from people who claimed that Intelligence gets the best & turns them into liars & manipulators. This is why I no longer want to work for them. I don't want to become a dishonest person. But I also recall someone from Intelligence warning me to not believe someone who doesn't want you to work there, just because they're jealous or have an ulterior motive. Problem is, there's truth behind what those people said. As an undercover, you have to lie about who you are of course. I'm ok with that if it's required to arrest someone. But to be trained as a professional liar & manipulator full-time & befriend dangerous criminals, it goes against who I am. However, I also heard that Intelligence picks out people who are naturally manipulative & use them for appropriate assignments. They most likely get extra training on top of it. But man, I wouldn't exactly take it as a compliment if I was selected!đ I hope people now understand that Psychology doesn't teach you to manipulate people. Even less so for Behavioural Health, which as the name suggests, focuses on mental health & how it affects your behaviour. It's disturbing to see how many people are under the same impression when it's completely untrue. I hope this comment will properly educate people about Psychology.
@@legends51.wordpress Read your comment again. Everything you described CAN be used to manipulate someone. If I can gauge someone's mental and emotional state, it sure as hell can make me manipulate them easier especially since Gina already knows what to say/do to get people to do her bidding. If I knew you felt alone, never felt like you fit in, imposter syndrome, etc. I would pretend to be your friend and try to become someone you ride or die for, I can send you to do little chores and eventually escalate it. For you to claim you "were" a psych student and not know how psychology can be used to manipulate someone is ignorant. Psych has to do with the human mind, and the human mind is capable of more than anyone of us can EVER study in our lifetime. I hope you don't go around spreading misinformation by condescending critique the possibilities even yourself have stated could be possible.
I think aitran is saying that the Psychology diploma itself doesn't teach you how to manipulate people. Rather it's the person aiming for the Psychology degree who wants to learn how to manipulate people using it for that purpose, and they are likely gonna do it with or without the degree anyways, unless they wanna change ofc.
TL;DR: It's not the tool (Psychology degree) it's the user.
Neglect is such a cruel form of abuse.
True storyâŠa friend had twin baby girls just 9 months ago. The babies have hated each other since birth! They will scream and cry if the other twin is brought near them. They calm instantly when you remove the other twin from their line of sight. Mom and Dad change them, feed them, play with them in separate spaces. It is the craziest thing Iâve ever seen and Iâm very interested to see how this turns out.đł
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That's crazy!!
Wow! They mustâve had a long journey in the wombđ
@@Bro-cq5xzâŠ.something definitely went down in there.đ€đ
Scary đš
As a wise man once said "worst part about betrayal is that it comes from people you trusted most"
It's true; you can't be betrayed by a stranger or a person you don't like
and i think its so sad as well, nowadays there is no trust given to anyone now, everyone is afraid of betrayal
I don't think they ever trusted each other lol
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If there is no trust, there will be no betrayal. Moral lesson: Don't trust anybody!!!
the blue contacts threw me off at first but theyâre pretty!! i really sat here for a minute likeâŠ.waitâŠ..have her eyes ALWAYS BEEN BLUE?! lol
They are very pretty but I don't think they suit her very well. Might be the force of habit, we'll see.
Thank you for confirming - I was like no I know I watch her everyday thereâs no way I missed that
â@@AyanneCZ I think it's because the contacts are a greyish-white kind of blue which makes her look unsettling maybe a darker one would bring more of a natural tone? That's just my opinion tho.
I came to the comments so fast to confirm I wasnât the only one seeing this. Idky I thought she always had them
Love the contacts though, they're striking and it's FUN to be able to change your eye color like your hair!
This just sounds like parents failing to be a parent
Their mom had a huge influence on their success. When they lived with their mom, both were valedictorean. When mom left n favoured Sunny, she was successful. Now that mom favours Gina, Gina is successful.
They were valedictorian when living with their aunt and uncle.
Itâs also messed up that it seems like there mom Ms.Han can only love one of her kids at a time, like for her to love one she has to ignore and neglect the other. Thatâs terrible
She has a mental disorder
I think that came from the fact she got used to raising only one of them before the adoptive father basically dumped the other twin onto her
what about the father who abandoned them both?
@@zeinaabdullah1000 both are messed up but the the mom is actively playing favorites and is still in their lives so it might hurt more since they are closer to her then him
@zeinaabdullah1000 apparently continued on with his life like none of them existed. Further contributing to the abandonment issues between them like "let's compete for mommy's attention so she won't abandon us completely too"
Both the twins and the two teenage boys are failed by their parents. Thatâs a fact.
Iâm an identical twin and I love my sister but jealousy did come up as we were growing up. Looking back part of it was because there was a level of neglect at home but also itâs hard to not get caught up on when people would compare me and my sister. It never got to the point of hurting each other tho.
In relation to twins. My Ant worked in a Kindergarten. Once she mentioned there was two identical twin boys who would attend and they became friends with a third boy.
After a few weeks. One morning, randomly, out of the blue, the boy asked one of the twins, bluntly and without filter "Why do you, look like him?"
And what we suppose to do with this Little story đ€Ą
unrelated ahh story
@@abrahamphilip6843plsss i was ready for some crazy plot twist đ
Too many sentence fragments.
those 2 teens were so excited to skip school then this girl ruined and dragged thier life to the mud!???
That statement is right.
As a mother of twins myself, I 100% believe their futures were dependent on how their mother made them fend for themselves. I could never even think about putting my boys in that situation.
I thought of the same thing too they had been competing since childhood coz of their mom leaving them to survive on their own ,I do not think think it has anything to do with the twin theory
tbh i think this proves that it is nature and not nurture , my sibling and I seem to have grown up in a possibly worse environment and yet we are normal
@@stacybrenda6205 yes I agree, I donât think them being twins has anything to do with it I think them being siblings and having to raise themselves played such a big part as well as the mother choosing favorites
See but you're a good mom and you love your babies and don't play favorites I bet you love both boys equally!
Every single parent failed their child here. This is so sad. BPD is no joke, and it's 100% a response to trauma, almost always from a bad family life. I feel so bad for everyone involved.
Stephanie's so pretty here, not that she's not in other vids, but her contacts suits her and make up is spot on. She's so glowing.
I have a twin brother.. and when we were teenagers, we stood up for and protected each other, however, we also fought occasionally and had bitter competitive rivalries that would sometimes escalate into physical violence.
Then one day when we were in our mid 20s(we lived with each other for about 27 years), we just stopped arguing and fighting pretty much cold turkey. We sort of came to this mutual epiphany that this was really dumb. I can even still remember the last argument we ever had. It was followed by an apology to each other and a hug and that was pretty much it.
We're both 50 now and have nothing but love and support for each other.
me and my sister is like this. (not twins but fifteen months apart, and look exactly alike that teachers confuse us with each other). As soon as we leave the house, our relationship improved almost immediately. hm, maybe its' true what they say, familiarity breeds contempt? or maybe it's that the competitiveness set out by parents, or the limited resources we had growing up caused the resentment?
Glad you two made up, love and support each other.
@@chickofmusic001 Our bond got stronger when both of our parents died. Then we realized we were the only family we even had left.
Iâm a twin. đ My sis and I always apologized before we went to bed at night. Even if we were both still mad. đ We know whatever it is doesnât really matter. â€
How are you guys 15 months apart if a baby is in the mom's belly for 9 months.. 9 Ă 2 is 18â@@izzatihassan1475
I feel so bad for both Archie and yoshi đ„ș they did mess up.. but they were also manipulated
Yeah, in situations like these, I would say the adult is always the one more at fault. I hope they can turn their lives around.
agreed and their sentences were absolutely ridiculous.
They could have run away and called the police immediately. They didn't want to do what that Gina ask them to do.
I really hope that someone takes up an appeal for those 2 boys, they are the real victims of Ginaâs manipulation.
@@mhiadollxx8888 When you grew up on the streets... you never snitch, just saying. That was not an option for the boys. They are the real victims by the justice department.
It made me think about the TikTok series by Risa Tisa â who the F did I marryâ in the end she finds out that Legion had been modeling his life after his successful twin. They lived completely different lives.
I have 23 yr old twin boys and I am so grateful that my boys never had any problems like this.. but they were always raised to be individuals and had their own personalities and I believe you are what you grow up in including the society where they were raised my boys donât do drugs, not gangs nor have never been in jail one is a sheriff, and the other one is a chef we are very proud of all three of our children.. plus our daughter is in her last 2 years of college before she gets her Doctorate degree in criminal psychology Sheriff a chef and a doctor so I am very proud all three of my kids.. I donât know What I would do with my kids came out with bad Intentions, maybe I have been with their father for 30 years and grew up in the same place their whole lives but Iâm so grateful for my husband and kids â€.. and I really hope that that family finds peace and love for each other..
The title sounds like something from a movie. Taking over your twins identity??? The concept is so scary. Imagine someone you've spent your whole life, and been compared to suddenly taking over YOUR identity.
You should watch âWhat happened to Mondayâ
Yeah
You should also watch "alone"
â@@Yimika777 I've watched that before!! Very interesting movie
@@Yimika777this movie is one of my faves⊠not only the story, but the actress absolutely killed it. I would love to see behind the scenes and how they put it all together. She played the 7 roles so amazingly. And I wonât give the story away but finding out what really happenedâŠeek!
As a therapist, I have seen siblings, not even twins, go through this pattern. When I worked at a methadone clinic, we have siblings who when one was doing well, the other was not. Then there would be a switch as to whom was doing well.
Why tho?? And how??
@@ivyho9072 Brother and sister. One would get clean and stay that way for awhile and the other would start using. Then they would switch as to whom was using versus not. There was never a time when both were clean or both were using.
This is currently happening I feel like between my sister and I. My mother often compared me to her saying things like âwhy canât you just be like your sister!â She was always the perfect one and I was the black sheep. Now Iâm clean, getting my life on track, starting a family and her life is falling apart. Sheâs been emotionally cheating on her husband, sheâs been drinking more and more heavily, and they are now getting a divorce. Mom still wants to try and justify my sisterâs actions sometimes but when I point out that she left her husband for the same type of actions, she has no choice but to try and hold her as accountable for her actions. The only thing that seemed to change was I took accountability and she lost it. It is strange how it seems like the roles in our family switched over the course of just a year
ââ@@debcevansautistic family dynamics be like this. One has a debilitating that hinders their potential and the other is gifted with adhd both struggle but more than the other. Its a weird phenomena
Is there a reason why this happens
14 years for Archie is insane honestly. No one even got hurt and the victim clearly wasnât too upset about what happened.
Imagine involving children in your crimes. Coming from a 16 year old thats pathetic as hell and I am so sorry for the two, i hope they get to live a good life. She took advantage of them and they were just in a bad spot :c I wish the best for them and i HATTTEE THAT GIRL
Iâm a twin and my whole life until age 50, I have shared EVERYTHING With my twin sister ( Iâm a girl too ), both mentally supporting her and financially supporting her ( bought her a house,3 cars, designer clothes, took her on holidays Inc a round the world trip etc ). She was a nurse and I was a police officer but the moment she got pregnant, she gave up her career and went on government benefits. So I would pay for everything for her . I didnât notice but friends of ours since we were 7 have now said that she always played the victim and I her rescuer and she has exploited this throughout her life. Anyway, 4 years ago she borrowed a 4 piece jewellery set ( necklace, earrings, ring and bracelet ) which was very sentimental to me. I asked for her to return it and she did but the bracelet was missing. I very calmly asked where the bracelet was and she denied ever having it ( I have since been given a picture taken two weeks prior to me asking for it back and In the photograph, she is wearing my bracelet ). She became very defensive straight away and I said that maybe she had lost it or dropped it on the way to my house and she started shouting and screaming and accusing me of calling her a thief ( I didnât ), She then left my house with no shoes on such was her rush to leave and she left my neice and nephew behind and didnât pick them up for two days even though they were only supposed to stay for a few hours. Since then, despite me reaching out to her, she hasnât spoken a word to me. She got married and uninvited me and my two children who were to be bridesmaid and usher , yet my 3 brothers attended. Itâs crushed me. Then just prior to last Christmas, I found out that I had mouth cancer and my brother asked if he could tell her. I agreed and her reply to my brother was that she must go to the dentist and get herself checked out . She has not once called me or messaged me about it or to ask me how I am. Iâve been through 4 years of hell as Iâve been so depressed and devastated by her. However, I now realise that when I look back, she only ever visited me when she wanted something whether it be financially or emotionally or support mentally. I have finally reached a point where I can now say without crying that I no longer have a twin sister. She has confided in a mutual friend that she has always felt like she was playing second fiddle to me our whole lives and because of her feeling this way, she never wants anything to do with me ever again. Incidentally, this all happened not long after she met her boyfriend now husband and it does make me wonder if she will come running back to me if they ever split up, which is a possibility because they donât trust each other as I was fielding confidential phone calls from them both and neither of them know that the other has also confided in me. So it appears that itâs down to simple jealousy. Thereâs a professor who has studied twins and there are a high % of twins who reach middle age and the relationship totally breaks down, never to be rekindled again and itâs down to jealousy.
Wow that's very sad, it happens alot with brother and sister , not necessarily twins but they only come around when they need or want something and that's not cool. Don't waste you time, you tears. Your energy on people that doesn't deserve, just remember, that when you can't do anything about it let it go, don't hold the grudge.
So sorry. Take heart. Focus your energy and love on people who deserve it. You're gonna be okay. Protect your Peace.
God bless you.đ
@@juniorr2646same with with my mom and her sister they had also a neglectful childhood and depended on each other . Actually my aunt depended on my mom. I remember all my childhood my mom always helped my aunt, and when my mom wanted to help me she lost it, and treated me like an enemy. it was crazy bc my aunt threw my mom in jail before when they had a fight that she started .
Thatâs insane how can someone do that to their sibling let alone a twin
Your vyvanse dosage is too high.
Stephanie please do a video on the attack on the army public school in peshawar, Pakistan in 2014. A school was attacked by armed terrorists which ended in the killing of 150 children and leaving over 100 injured. it shook the nation and is to this day a horrific memory that every Pakistani runs away from but it deserves recognition. the parents never got justice. they can never get their children back. there's a lot of politics involved as aps stands for army public school and most of the students in attendance came from military backgrounds, this is believed to a reason as to why this school in particular was targeted.
I 2nd this motion â€â€
wow i never heard of this⊠we def need a video on this
oh my god, i did not know this event occurred. thank you for sharing & i really hope she covers this case
i have been waiting fr this one for so long
i really hope she sees this comment!!!
I don't know what it is with you Stephanie, but your voice is making me so productive and switches something on in my brain. I can listen to your videos, while working on my projects, WHILE ACTUALLY BEING MINDFUL of the story you present. Plus, your regural schedule and an unshaken moral compass makes me want to actually work harder for myself and others. Thank you for that â€â€â€
I love you so much stephanie! thank you so much for your fundraising efforts
I wonder if Gina gaslit Sunny into changing her stance during the trial. Considering Gina was able to convince two underage strangers to threaten her sister and later able to convince a total stranger from another country to send her money. Not to mention the mother definitely didn't help Sunny's state of mind by getting people from their community to rally behind the person who tried to harm her. It's no surprise Sunny state of mind spiraled.
To be honest with you, it's not really that hard for a woman to manipulate a teenage boy. They're just raging bundles of hormones without the experience and wisdom to reign it in.
Paragraphs are a good idea here for this Berlin Wall of text and word vomit.
I feel so bad for the two minors that got roped into this.
I love you, Stephane. You need the utmost recognition for the videos you create. Youâre amazing!
My cousins are twins and they're so different. Married vs single. Different careers. Living in different countries. Opposites personality-wise. One thing remains the same, they're very close to each other and are very connected mentally to each other.
Nature vs nurture doesn't fully cover the diverse nature of twins and the different nuances.
Thisss, my sister and I are super close and were raised to love and treasure eachother since others dont have that blessing. Your cousinsâ relationship sounds so wholesome
Are they identical or fraternal? Fraternal twins are genetically different from each other so that could be why.
I have twin cousins. Have, live yhe same lifestyle. Other than they are not smart and are okay with living below minimum wage jobs and mooch off their rich younger brothers they are almost the same. No competitiveness and hates their dad my uncle but loves their mom cause she's kind and doesn't have favoritism with her kids and grandkids.
Same! I have 2 friends who are identical twins and live in different countries doing conpletely different things and yet call each other daily to catch up
Throughout middle I've been best friends with identical twins. They are completely different.
Both girls were failed by both of their parents. One got abandoned by their dad while the other didnât know him, and then they both got abandoned and neglected by their mom. Thatâs so much trauma they went through at such an early age. It definitely played a part in this.
And donât forget their mother having loads of random men pop up in their lives, some of which they had to hide behind the couch from. Not exactly the most stable or wholesome example to be setting for your daughters.
Itâs weird watching this video the week my identical twin sister is visiting/staying with meâŠnow Iâm going to be giving her the side-eye treatment the whole time.đ
Amazing channel. Great storytelling. I love crime docus. now I'm obsessed with your podcasts. I listen to this before sleeping. Helps me sleep. Keep it going đđŸ
This case feels like it came straight out of a movie.
A super sh!tty movie using a half-azzed script put together while the real writers are on strike.
Straight out of a soap opera
Identical twins have different fingerprints⊠shouldnât be that hard for the cops.
Iâm praying for Archie and Yoshi. They have been failed by everyone in their lives. They never had a fair shake at life. Praying for God to intervene in their lives and show them He loves them, is in their side, is the loving Father they always wanted and needed, and will never forsake them. âWhen my father and my mother forsake me, then the Lord will take me up.â Ps. 27:10 KJV. I genuinely love and care for these precious souls! We all want and need love and people to care for us and be on our side!!
You are my favorite! You tell true stories perfectly.
People assume twins get on, Iâm a twin and we definitely donât, a shame but thatâs the survival mode kicked in.
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Same! We are always at each otherâs throats
â@@OnlyEvelyn11Same for me.đđ
Iâm a fraternal twin and my sister and i get along super well, never fight and no rivalry. Iâd venture to say family wasnt a good influence in that either. Itâs a shame
as someone with a twin 1 minute apart i feel very sorry for you that you dont get along with your twin
Iâm an identical twin, I think that nurture comes more into play than nature. The reason why I think this is because me and my sister, although having the same genetics completely different people and fight on a regular basis. I love your videos and you make me so happy.
Love your style, very talented. Few can keep an audience entertained by simply talking. Real talent, keep the uploads coming please!đđŒ
I love your stories and how you read them. †keeps me interested â€â€â€
When Stephanie states the trigger warnings and says"... take care of yourself, see you in the next one." I'm like: All your topics are triggers but we can't help but tune in! wdym? đ I just love you so much, you are my mental health
fr! the stories are so horrible but i feel like Stephanie explains it in a way where it just feels edjucating and i appreicate that she always shines light on the victims its important to remeber them and i realaly love that about her!
I really appreciate the warnings because i have such bad ptsd & so many things trigger me, so i dont watch those episodes when im doing really bad. I do always go back to them all though even when it triggers me horribly lol
omg, i was thinking the same đ đ i even said,"then girl, are we even seeing eachother ? " đ€Ł
As a 22-year-old identical twin myself, I have never imagined hurting my sister. This is so sickening to watch. My twin sister and I used to live apart for many years, but whenever we reunited, we would be overjoyed and feel complete once more. I can't imagine ever hurting my soulmate and best friend.
i just listen to ur spotify podcast of this, and holy this was insane.
Pomona is in LA county, not OC. It's about a 30 minute drive north east from Irvine. Pomona is also not as affluent compared to Irvine.
Thank you!!! That was so annoying. An easy google search
Iâm a twin non identical, Iâm 16 nearly 17 and me and my sister were so close, we would do everything together and loved each others company but as soon as I got a bf she got really jealous and would do anything to end my relationship with him and would constantly chat shit abt me to him at this point we got really distant⊠she eventually had sex with him,sent many nudes and met him behind my back many times
Edited - thank you guys for all the love itâs honestly so sweet and when I found out she decided to carry on lying to my face and I realised when she was doing these things with my bf at the time she had a man of her own đ
đš what the hell that's awful
OMG I can't imagine that. I'm so sorry that happened to you. I'm a fraternal twin too.We used to be closer but as we went to separate colleges, we grew apart.
I'm so sorry Dasiy!! I will be praying for you!
Keep your future spouse away from your twinđŹđŹ
Could you just talk to her? Tell her that she's loved. If she attacks you,or hurts you. Get some help.
As a mother of twins this case breaks my heart. This is obviously a classic case of nurture over nature. Those evil parents ruined their poor children.
Im a FRATERNAL twin but I did grow up in a study hard household and I can very much confirm that being separated would definitely affect the relationship. When being together in early youth, you naturally bond together due to basic circumstances. When stripped of that connection early on, it basically ensures that you see your "twin" as a copy of yourself, a better/worse version of yourself.
Can we js aknoladge the fact that Stephani looks so pretyy here aswell as her energy is radiatingg!!
FINGERPRINTS!!! nobodys fingerprints are identical, not even twins. So it's ridiculous to think they couldn't figure out who's whođ
it's not that simple, even twins fingerprints can be identical. It will be hard to pin point which twin did what.
â@@lulu_Lmnot true
@@LoraHari81 yes true. There was a crime commited by a twin guy and they couldn't even tell which twin committed the crime because they both claimed innocence so they both were sentenced. It's not simple to test DNA between identical twins.
Exactly! Just yesterday I was thinking about scenarios like this after watching another video and I looked it up! Was so surprised that they're not the same when they split apart from eachother from the egg
â@@lulu_LmTwins' fingerprints are not identical. I don't know what twin case you're talking about but their fingerprints were probably not on file prior to the case. I challenge you to name the case.
Thank you Stephanie for continuing to help the Palestinians these past few months through your charity efforts. I think this is the 4th or 5th video youâve talked about it - which makes us feel so great about supporting you and shows us that you mean it when you advocate for victims of true crime â€
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exactly, as a palestinian stephanieâs support feels genuine;; her constant support these last few months mean a lot
@@juzahyodo Iâm so happy to hear that â„ïž and I hope you and your family are okay â„ïž
Lol each pally familiy begs haram people for cash!
This is a crazy story, but I'm more impressed with the delivery. Really fascinating how you wove in tangential facts and spoke the words with the appropriate emotions.
That was soooooooo much fun! Please give us more episodes than 6! I need more Jihyo!đ§ĄđŠ
I have twin sons. They will be 4 in July. They fight and they do get competitive for attention, obviously. But for the most part they feel what the other feels and they love each other deeply. Just today, the oldest (by 3 minutes) was crying because the youngest was in trouble. Twins fascinate me especially as a twin mother. I love watching them grow together.
I think the dynamic of the mom always having a favourite deffinately fueled the fire, along with the seperation of them as babies. Terrible parenting is what sparked this rivalary in my opinion.
Side note: what kind of weird fucked up people just take one twin for themselves and abandon the other? Like they are their own person with their own interests and personality and you dont care to get to know one of your two children at all? Crazy.
I love your stories. Thank you so much for your work.
This situation was a perfect storm resulting from an eerily strong bond between twins with reactive attachment disorder. Nature vs. nurture created something very unique and tragic here.
"how does it feel to be this early to a rotten mango video?" amazing.
Sibling rivalry is scary enough but twin rivalry is another level
Twins think differently but they know how their other half thinks which is terrifying
Well am I glad my tv reception went off today because your video is much more interesting and entertaining.
I love your husbands comments it takes the edge off the drama! đ
"Wait, what? Ahhh Huh!! Okay!"
Also (as a boy/girl twin ) I feel very guilty when I fight with my twin brother because it feels wrong like we were born to be friends. My mom has always described it as "having a built-in friend"
As a faternal triplet...lemme just give you a long distance hug. Tons of familial abuse and trauma and - none of us get along. Don't feel bad. You're normal. I have a theory that that whole "built in friend" thing is more of a stigma put on by media than a reality.
âRight. âCause she wasnât winningâ sassy! Hahaha
Your husbandâs comments break the tension everytime đđ€Ł
You are such a great storyteller â€
I was super excited to see you covering this case! Justice Moore, who is the judge of this case is actually my Great Aunt Eileen. I grew up always hearing about it so it's crazy to hear it being talk about on my fav channel
A pair of twins we knew were quite different from each other.
One, the mother's fave and pride and joy, was slim, outgoing, gregarious and into sports. Made friends very easily.
The slightly younger twin was the exact opposite, quiet and almost invisible.
When we attended the wake of the older twin who had died of cancer at age 16, many felt sad for the younger and thought she would feel the loss alot.
I had a feeling she would actually be happier coming out from her late twin's shadow.
I was right. She totally changed, blossomed and 'became' her twin.
She took to the 'spotlight' like she had practised it in her mind alll her life.
I live in Irvine, and this case is honestly crazy, I feel like this kind of competitiveness has to do with how the parents treated them.
Just found your channel and you are an amazing story teller â€
Okay color contact biss era đđŸđđŸ love it!
My Girl coming through for the Palesinian children, yet again! I LOVE YOU FOREVER!
The Irvine slander made me laugh so hard
Same. Iâm at Irvine Spectrum by Dave & Busters; sitting outside. Super busy since school is out. đđ
I literally had to pause LOL while I think ppl from irvine can be annoying her description was a bit dramatic
I really gotta stop watching you at night in my dimly lit room đ. That intro had me turning the light on so fast. đđ
Wow, this is so touching. As a twin I have never been competitive with my brother. I learnt from a very young age that although we might be twins, we are still totally different. We have our various strengths and weaknesses and also interests in different areas, so I know not to compare. This is so sad to seeâč
Couldnât imagine ever hurting my sister, sheâs my best friend. Itâs heartbreaking to see and hear of these things happening and I feel so blessed we have a great bond
I am a twin. I have a boy twin. We are competitive but if someone fights one they have to fight us both. Its been like that all our lives.
You are so funny when you narrates the story, you are jumping from end to first, from first to the middle,you always remind me of my motherâŠ
I love her narration because you can never get lost đâ€
Stephanie, Iâve watched all your videos across all your channels and lately Im in love with ALL your tops đ can you please start sharing where you get your tops? Thank you!
I have a twin sister and she was my biggest enemy and bully since the day i was born. Or more like i was her enemy. I always loved her but she hated me with passion and wished me death.
I don't know where it came from. It was just always like that. Our relationship became slowly better after our twentiees. She huged me for the first time when we were 23 or something. I was always jealous of other twins that had amazing conection because i was pushed away by my twin. It scared me for life.
She was the cool girl, and i was the sister that everyone forgot about.
I remember when we had birthday and we shared some candy with the clasmates, they wished her "happy birthday" and then the looked at me and said "oh...its your birthday too...".
Yeah, so fun đ
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Thatâs sibling quarrel.