Metropolitan Athanasios on Wearing Masks in Church
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- Metropolitan Athanasios of Limassol, Cyprus, has a live radio program, which is hosted by his Metropolis' Radio Station. During this live broadcast he answers various questions posed to him by faithful from all over the world. In this episode, the line of questions from a young listener is about wearing masks inside the holy temples (our churches).
Link to the radio station: / @ieramitropolilemesou
Link to the original podcast: • Μητροπολίτης Λεμεσού κ...
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Metropolitan Athanasios is a disciple of St. Paisios. He sat at his feet for many years and even experienced the uncreated light while praying with him. He represents the best that the Orthodox Church has to offer today. He is respected around the world. His teaching and opinion is as Orthodox as it can be.
I liked his responses, a lot.
@@ValidityJ He is an amazing Orthodox Christian leader who has gone through a lot of testing by the devil, especially in the 90s. He is one of the best.
It's been known the leaders will sell out... The Orthodox way is we don't change. Period not for covid not for aids not for leprosy, not for anything. The way it was is the way it will be. And back to the main point death is not something we should fear, we should fear judgement by God not our neighbor judging us for not wearing masks, not for politics and heresies.
It's insanity how easy people are afraid and give up their beliefs thinking a little piece of fabric is going to save them and you turn around and want eternal life.
Πώς τρελαθήκαμε..... Θεός χώρες και καλή Ανάσταση
@@georgeagorastos7181 I woke up today, April 5th and was going to ask someone what the Church's stance was on masks. I want to visit an Orthodox Church here in Texas but all the ones within an hour or two drive require a mask and some even an appointment. Are all Orthodox churches requiring masks?
@@bradbrown6027 no not all are requiring masks - look for monasteries also Serbian and Russian churches seem to be ok
Wearing a mask isn't the question -- it's just a fabric across your face. I question what it represents. it is a constant reminder to be scared.. and fear death. Christ did not fear his crucifixion yet I see some scared to walk outside their home as if an invisible enemy will kill them. they dislike their neighbor for being some biohazard and potential murderer. Following Christ means we fear nothing, not even a horrible death. it is not natural or reasonable to wear a mask in everyday life
Did Christ fear killing others? That’s what a mask is about. Spreading a potentially fatal virus to someone else. It’s not about saving oneself, it’s about the likelihood of being an asymptomatic carrier, going into public, spreading a virus, and endangering another person’s health, through death or long lasting detrimental health effects.
@@SisyphusOfAlice Christ did not think of potential deadly gluten allergies when he gave bread to the hungry either. How much bacteria was on that bread, too! Someone probably got sick from that!! But he still ate. If bad things do or don’t happen, this is life, and to fear death or obsess over keeping others alive taken to extreme measures is a terrible way to live..everyone learns to hate under the disguise of “I care” when it’s not from the heart
I guess you shouldn't put a seat belt when you're driving or a heltmet while biking or lock your doors while sleeping because then you would fear death.
@@arabniga When you ride a motorbike you put a helmet on. You dont force the rest of the world to put one on.
When i ride my push bike I might not always put a helmet on. I measure the risk levels.
Seat belts in cars is proven to save lives.
Masks are not proven. The WHO only changed the advice in the advent of COVID-19. As if this virus was so unique compared to the plethora of viruses that we k ow about and havr never worn masks.
This demographic most impacted by contact with this virus is on average 82 years old. Thats the same average death rate in my country.
Why would you cover up everybody else rather than a sophisticated attempt at protecring the sick and the vulnerable while the rest get in with life?
Thank you.
The American GOC closed our churches and scattered the flock. May God have mercy on the souls of the young they alienated with their lack of faith
The church is not a dental office, nor is it a surgery. By all means stay home if you are sick! By all means, wear a mask if you feel safer. By all means, don't judge your neighbor, judge yourself.
As Professor Dimitris Tsengelithes says, theChurch cannot compromise for the faithlessness of people. There are times when the mask should definitely not be used, when receiving Holy Communion, when venerating icons and holy relics and when in the Sanctuary. Bishops and priests do not always agree on matters and that is alright, even saints when they were alive did not always agree with each other. If something is a dogma, we obey it, if a doctrine or rule, then we don’t necessarily obey it. With the use of masks, it is personal. I cannot wear a mask in church and even if a bishop or priest told me to wear it, I would not obey. Out side of the church, I would wear it because of the fear that the people have. Neither is it logical that people should feel pressured to wear a mask. The Psalters do not wear masks and stand close together, if they had the virus they could pass it on. I think that we should help people not to have fear of a virus which over 99% of people recover.
We are missing the forest (overall spirit and aims) for the tree (the parts like masks), but also misunderstanding the place and nature of the tree not having a proper sense of the forest (context).
At the heart of the debate is: who is telling the truth and who is lying! Does one believe the Government appointed experts or the many who are just as credentialed, but don't have any power to punish you if you disagree. The Metropolitan accepts the official Government/MSN narrative. A number of Priests, laypeople and a few Bishops don't. Just because a majority believes something doesn't mean it's the truth!
I heard the guy's question and it is the question of everyone. People are troubled and disturbed. They are following saints because no one is telling them the desire of their hearts. It is not about protecting others and love. When the teaching of love comes from a source other than the church and God and his saints, we should question it so much. People are tired from political answers.
Yes, it is not normal to ware a mask in the church. It is out of context. We are forced by governments to do so. That is the only reason, and I can't say another reason for it. Whether there is Corona or not and whether it is political game or not. I don't know. I know one thing and that is that the church is under pressure and cannot practice its freedom.
Now, God allowed all of that to happen to us because we are sinners and this is a slap on our face to weak up. Let's accept this medicine from God and repent hardly. This is allowed by God for our benefit because we God so sick and we needed such a strong medicine. So let's accept this cross with patience humility and God will raise us soon and very soon. It is all happened because of our sins and carelessness. We went so far. If anyone looked at us, he will not see a difference between us and the pagans and non-Christians. So, we deserve this, so let's be responsible and accept these consequences and repent.
Other than that, there is no point from discussing topics of masks and illnesses.
It comes down to this, you go to church because you believe in God correct? Then believe he will protect you in his church, at home and in the world go bubble up if you wish but if you step foot in his home you are protected. Wearing a mask means you don't believe in him and you should go elsewhere. Ο γέροντας Εφραίμ είναι σωστός αυτά που κάνουμε εμείς είναι λάθη.
Let's not tell people not to come to church because they are weak in their faith. I agree with you on the subject of masks, but we should let others use their free will.
During the early stages of Covid, when I was at Church with my sister, a woman who was sitting three feet away from us turned and said "Wear your mask". We did not answer back and continued praying, maskless. Two minutes later she turns to us and says again "Wear your masks!" , with a more aggressive tone. Again, my sister and I did not answer. Then 5 minutes later she turns to us a third time and tells us "Wear your masks now! Wear your masks! Or else get out!". I calmly turned to her and said: "Are you afraid of disease in the House of God? I am not." and she said very loudly to us "Get out now! Leave the church! Get out!". I got very upset because by kicking us out of the church I felt she was insulting God greatly. I pray to God that He will not hold this against her in the Day of Judgement. I feel nothing but love and understanding for her. It was our fault, we should have moved away the first time she told us to.
Telling someone not to come to the House of the Lord is not okay. God loves us all no matter how sinful we are!
@@niki3773 in this we can not be soft and pc! It's like saying it's okay to sin as long as the demon forces you too. Think about Christ's struggle how many times was he shunned and worse, by being passive and acceptant we become complicate.
As a worthless sinner I do not judge or give edicts to others so I wouldn't tell anyone to do anything. I just go by what my spiritual father tells me and what's been written, I don't see anything written by the fathers saying when plagues come mask up nor do I have any fear in church. In this situation you were in all I would have done is closed my eyes and done my koboskini while crossing myself, by ignoring them and continuing praying the demons go away the same is true for people.
I have also heard the same story from a man who was very close to Elder Ephraim and believe it to be true
No, he said churches will be transformed into carnivals and will no longer contain any form of sacrifice which we give to God.
It seems to me that the far more dangerous issue than wearing a mask or not wearing mask, is the arguing, criticism and judgement on both sides against the other. If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask and don't give your mind even one moment to judge those who've decided not to. If you don't want to wear a mask, don't! But also, don't give your mind a single moment to judge your brother who's decided differently. And once you've decided one way or the other, move on with your life! Pray, fast, give alms, love your neighbor as yourself and leave the issue of what anyone else is doing in the hands of God!.
It’s not a matter of judging your brother, it’s a matter of honoring God‼️ To think that you can get disease when you enter the heavenly Jerusalem, our Orthodox church, and/or a kissing the Holy Icons, many of which produced miracles, and where rest the images of our Saints, and/ or believing you can get sick from receiving holy Communion is, in fact, blasphemous. If someone has such little faith that they have to wear a mask in church, it is either out of ignorance or fear. “Perfect love casts out all fear!” Jesus
I agree with this, but unfortunately all of the people wearing a mask are judging and even ostracizing those who choose not to.
There is righteous and harmful judgment. Learn the difference. You're not suppose to go through life without judgment at all.
@@death2theworld exactly. Discernment is key. Both spiritually in the spirit realm, and even materially in the material realm. The Bishop here gave an example saintly men respecting the concept of transmissible disease. I understand the concept of being very ill and not attending Divine Liturgy because of the illness, but that's very different than telling someone who isn't ill at all and has no symptoms to be treated otherwise. This pandemic asked the healthy to act as if they were sick. Materially that makes little sense. This pandemic closed down churches whole keeping liquor stores open; spiritually that just be discerned as demonic. I can't imagine any other possibility.
Remember the prince of darkness still operates in this world.
And in the Church too apparently
poor people those that enter a church and do not feel the Holy Spirit - Athanasios is making a big mistake comforting those who walk into church like they go to a metro station; not to mention that indeed, beliving the masks are of any use is a very clowny thing. It is one thing doctors wearing a mask at a surgery - the mask is professional, it is put on/off with care by a professional, while masks in public are worn like a clothing accessory; and one more thing: wearing masks in the church will probably encourage some to kiss the icons with the mask on which is kinda iconoclasm; we do have to kiss the icons anyway so we are a united body; in fact all belivers should be a united body and this encompasses a physical aspect also; I am very disappointed with his limited lax view on this issue - I am even afraid to ask what he belives on other more stringend problems
not only in church issues but in life also, we need to look at the top standard of a result of our decision; I mean, let us suppose that all that enter a church are real christians - so they all will have communion - so they will all drink from the same cup and are a united body; where is the mask in this picture? I see the devil laughing behind the mask in a church corner in this picture
the example given at the end with sick people staying out of the church is indeed a good one - so if those that are sick stay out,why those inside should wear a mask and why should they be allowed? it is not about the space that is sacre, it is about the devil that is directing this plandemic
Blessings father , my question is that since we are made in the image and likeness of God....why would it be ok to wear a mask in church and distort this image to cover it up. Isn't this blasphemy??? From a sister in Christ, Toronto Canada. Thank you father.
I am in complete agreement with Metropolitan Neophytos!
If you think something can 'Infect" the Body and Blood of Christ... I can only shake my head
2 Corinthians 3:16-18
"Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. But we all, with *unveiled* face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord."
I think the focus on the mask, while important, takes away from addressing what happened last year of closing and/or restricting churches. That’s becoming memory holed as the focus shifts to the masks. The closure and/or restriction was presented as a dogma of loving ones neighbor. I understand that that shifted over time to become (a) avoiding govt interference, (b) avoiding legal liability, (c) accommodating the weaker brother, etc. However I think a reevaluation of everything that was done along with its justification is in order. At least one church (Georgia) said that a closure was an offense against God. Is it an offense against God or was it loving ones neighbor? I don’t see how both can be correct. Shouldn’t there be a council to decide which church should repent and/or be anathematized based on its violation of one or the other dogmas? Offending God or not loving ones neighbor would both be serious offenses.
All I got from this was that Athanasius proved Elder Ephraim correct.
same here.
Elder (Saint) Ephraim's prayers must've been holding the cosmos together because now that he's departed, things are falling apart fast. Strong delusions everywhere.
@@panokostouros7609 I've had the same thought before myself. I think his Eminence Metropolitan Neophytos of Morfou is also correct though in his outlook of what's going on.
Read more about him in the bestselling book: Mountain of Silence. The author changed his name to Maximos. Good book and a great hierarch of our Holy Orthodox Church
It should also be noted that his name was changed (especially in the English version) because fr. Athanasios(Maximos in the book) didn't like the positive spin on eastern mysticism that the author added. I think his eminence Athanasios didn't want to confuse people with his name being attached. Regardless of that, it is indeed an excellent book. The nod to eastern mysticism is not a reason to avoid this book!
A priest in the OCA in Virginia quoted his Bishop as saying those who do not distance, wear masks, etc are “pious egoists”. There’s your sign.
Those who don't seperate themselves from others are egoists?
"Hell is paved with the skulls of erring priests with bishops as their signposts" - St. Chrysostom
Sad times we live in. May God have mercy on us.
oh dear - i go with God and the fact we have got this far with this many people without masks
1) So the video title is "on wearing masks in Church", which is an entirely different subject from wearing masks outside of Church. 2) The Church is not a transmitter of disease. 3) The quote about St Nicodemos and the rudder is not clearly addressing "on wearing masks in Church", it is addressing a general attitude about being mindful and responsible in public when it comes to the transmission of disease. 4) In that wearing masks in Church automatically assimilates that the Church IS a transmitter of disease, the very act is a blaspheme to God. To say otherwise or conjure a neutral stance indicates a lukewarm heart. 4) It does not matter to me if someone was a disciple of St Paisios, are there lots of "disciples" of St Paisios, and yet, no actual "disciples" of St Paisios. Even if this bishop was, can not even the elect be deceived? Tell the world you honestly believe and see St Paisios and all of the apostles and saints of Christ wearing masks in church, please. It would probably be great to go ahead and start painting icons of them with masks and provide push buttons people can push from a distance to make a light go on so that no one accidentally contaminates the icon of the saint wearing a mask. 5) If someone is lukewarm for Christ...that cannot be the best Orthodox opinion on this subject.
Tell us. How do you think Grace works? All you church leaders who dedicated your life to Christ, who are supposed to be there for us (versus closing your doors on us as soon as a pandemic hits), who are supposed to be willing to DIE FOR CHRIST, who are supposed to help us learn how to live and how to prepare to die,......tell us....HOW DO YOU THINK GRACE WORKS?
from Metropolitan Augustine of Florina
“In the end times Satan will use every means possible to abolish the Church of Christ. He will use also one last means. He will clothe men under his authority as priests and bishops.
He will give them miters and staffs and bishops’ engolpia and through these bishops he will attempt to abolish the Church. Christ and Cesar struggle in this world. Dark is the horizon but the Sun will drive away the clouds.
Holy scripture says “those days will be shortened...” Let us prepare ourselves for a Church of the catacombs and for martyrdom.”
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!☦☦☦☦☦☦💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
@@icxcnika2037 I live in Cyprus and I can 100% confirm that this is exactly what is happening. Instead of saying "Sodom and Gomorrah" to describe the current state of the world, I use "Greece and Cyprus"! Yes, it is THAT bad!
Your 3) "... it is addressing a general attitude about being mindful and responsible in public when it comes to the transmission of disease." is clearly misleading. You chose to ignore the Metropolitan's comment about Iosif of Vatopedi at 05:30 barring one from going into Church.
Masks are to protect OTHERS as much as oneself. We are to think of OTHERS as Christians. In fact, as the Sermon on the Mount shows, we cannot be followers of Christ if we do not act kindly to OTHERS.
There is a passage in Fr Seraphim Rose's 'the soul after death' where someone experiences an event where faceless ppl bow down, emotionless and looking away in order for the devil to walk through. For me, this is the main problem with masks. All I can think of is this image of faceless drones bowing down to the evil one. That image and God's judgement is what scares me , not coofid (koroidia 19).
the dentist office is not the Church. dental care is not the Eucharist
And dentists are literally right over our open mouths, breathing in that direction
Correct! But listen on, he talks about the church, too. And his experience with his elder and sickness and the church and attendance if the services and the Holy Eucharist. He has comments for everything. Listen on.
@@Trisagionfilms Yes : he taught us, that
i f s o m e o n e i s s i c k ,
h e / s h e h a v e t o r e f r a i n
f r o m c h u c h .
- i'm remaining under your subordination.
@@icxcnika2037 The faith of the early Christians was pure. Most of today’s Orthodox and Catholics are men of comfort and not of God.
@@TrisagionfilmsDid Jesus reject the sick from coming to him to be cured?
Blessed is our God!
Thank you for sharing. Well said. Glory to God.
Thank you so much for sharing! His words always calm the soul and bring hope in our hearts! Helpful and necessary! Thank you again for translating for us!
Obviously if you are sick you should isolate yourself from others. But that isn’t the issue. Healthy people are being forced to wear masks and act like lepers even when they aren’t.
In this pandemic, you can have the disease and not realize it. You can pass it around and think you are completely healthy.
@@Trisagionfilms that if true still asks me to accept the stories told of how supposedly dangerous it is. Also the censoring of any discussion from other doctors and scientists that do not agree. The manipulation of numbers with tests of extreme doubtful accuracy. Ignoring the harms of reduced clean air over even a few minutes that needs to be taken into account. Those who benefit hugely from all the measures are known to be corrupt. There is so much not right in all this situation, I would not have room to air it all here. I feel stuck in a literal damned if you do and damned if you don’t . God have mercy on us all.
@@Trisagionfilms The problem is that that is true for every single virus, bacteria and any other thing! Why must it be forced on people who do not want to participate in a vaccine or a mask? Why was I not allowed even in the church without a mask and then without the vaccine? Would Christ reject someone from entering His church because he didn't have a mask on or didn't take a vaccine? I respect the elder in him saying that it should be a choice BUT for my church it was the orders from the bishop and government that no one was even allowed in the church without showing a vaccination card. That is ridiculous to a degree where many people left our goarch parish and went to the nearest rocor parish just so they could bring their children to church.
Εύγε, εύγε , εύγε!!!! Τέτοιες φωνές χρειαζόμαστε!!
Do vaxx passport next
see Spiritual Counsels II Spiritual Awakening, St. Paisios of Mount Athos pp 197+
The problem is that because some states enforce the rules so harshly, some of the priests do so too, and it becomes virtually impossible not to wear it at a service. I'd happily leave it off, but I also don't want to upset everyone at church or get kicked out. The problem lies with church and state authorities, a lot of the laity are powerless
Does anybody have this video (this section, this part) without the English sub?
I am trying to find it as well, if I do will post it
Go to 23:20
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I would be more concerned about pews and chairs in orthodox churches
How sad to see so much fear and confusion and misunderstanding among "Orthodox" Christians! 😦😶
How does not wearing a mask represent "fear"? You are the one who very clearly fears death.
@@ArtyCraftZ he meant that wearing masks is fear
Look at this silly comment ..
All of our sins and passions are masks that we wear as we enter into Church. Should God strike us with a lightning bolt?
What about disinfecting the Holy Communion spoon after every communicant?Or using different spoons?I have been to an orthodox church in England where the priest does this(disinfected the spoon)Father Savvas the Athonite
Says that it is Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit
If you claim that you can get sick from taking the Holy Communion then this goes against the orthodox teaching. Think about what happens. The spoon goes into the chalice that contains the communion. Any bacteria is cleansed immediately by the true presence of the Lord.
Carnival masks in God's temple is a sin. You should beg God for forgiveness afterwards if you wear one in HIS temple. For having weak faith and trust in HIM.
You shall not tempt the Lord your God by assuming that he will grant you anything, much more your health. Also the church has spoken officially on the matter. End of story.
@@vasiliskaranos605 what is the official word on the matter because serbian and rocor parishes seem to be not requiring masks. Ive even noticed some OCA parishes with not mandating masks
With all due respect to the metropolitan, I don't think he is correct on the masks. I don't think people contract illness in the sanctuary, either. It feels blasphemous to me to be wearing a barrier over my face in the presence of God. Feels quite insulting toward our Lord, imo.
While I respect metropolitan Athanasios, I do not agree with his Ill chosen comparison between God’s holy church and an operating room or dentist’s office in the context of wearing masks. He means well and is a good hierarch, but the hierarchy is not infallible. This comparison proves it.
I agree.
God breathed life into us. Is the wearing of masks contrary or a challenge to this?
spirit (n.)
mid-13c., "animating or vital principle in man and animals," from Anglo-French spirit, Old French espirit "spirit, soul" (12c., Modern French esprit) and directly from Latin spiritus "a breathing (respiration, and of the wind), breath; breath of a god," hence "inspiration; breath of life," hence "life;" also "disposition, character; high spirit, vigor,
About the “if you transmit a disease you are a murderer” let us remind ourselves of Christ’s words 1 John 3:15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
Oof, Strong words by St. Nicodemus, at the end there.
Just a little note: "If someone is sick and he KNOWS it".So someone intentionally goes into a church being sick of some contagious disease....The intentional part is very important.I do not know at least one person who would do that.
@@nectaria03 I’ve been to church and work sick in the past. Never thought anything of it. I was raised that it was lazy to stay in bed if you’re able to get up and work. I don’t see it as a moral failing to work if you’re able even if you’re sick. I’ve also heard of priests serving through sickness because they don’t have any backup. It’s never entered my mind that you should stay home for an insignificant cold, for example. Maybe if you have leprosy or something really terrible that would be different.
Thank God these are kept and available to our generation.
Christ Is Risen !
I am inherently skeptical when I hear " Some one told me that someone said ...".
Nobody ever heard of the game telephone anymore ?
If we are made in the image of God, why would we cover the face of God? Why would we cover the mouth and the nose into which life was breathed by God?
Because of the love to your next. And because you should not tempt God saying I will be careless and God will protect me. "You shall not put the Lord, your God to the test.'" (Matthew 4:7)
Why do you wear clothes outside if we are made in the image of God? Why not just walk around naked?
@@googleaccount4471 Our faces are made to communicate with our community, facial expressions and so forth. Imagine the psychological damage that is being done to our young ones growing up in a masked world.
Our full bodies are meant for within the marriage eyes only if we are married.
@@ingvarharaldsson677 ^^^
@@ingvarharaldsson677 masks are different they dont work according to sCiEnce
Wise words by Metropolitan Athanasios
Another good sign as I become Orthodox. There are too many leaders in other denominations encouraging this and what THAT risks is to put seekers off Christianity - a far far worse charge. Let's not forget some of God's Torah addressed issues of infection and He never invoked the Temple as a prevention.
But on the other hand what happened when Nadab and Abihu made a change in practice with the strange fire?
Thank you, Metropolitan Athanasie, for your common sense advice on the issue of masks.
His voice alone is angelic..May his prayers intercede in our lives..Lord have mercy...
ni studen ni vruc...
I don't get the resistance to masks, you aren't disrespecting anyone, only inconveniencing yourself and being recklessly rebellious. The irony is that half of these anti-maskers smoke, you'd think that they would care about their health by cutting out cigarettes
The Church has no other themes more important regarding man's salvation other than masks? Absurd.
A sane bishop.. 👍
I can't believe no one has commented on the guy asking the question about masks coughing into the microphone the whole time....
if you wore a mask during service or took the sh.o.t, you have to repent and confess.
First!
All Christ did was miracles: healed even the leper. Not flu. Leprosy. He raised the dead. Lazarus was putrified when was raised.
All i would ask this guy is who is YOUR god???
Thank you for sharing this 🤍🙏🏼
As the other person coughs through most of the video....
at the present, that is exactly humankind's core illness :
h y p o c o n d r i a ; = evil one's made
fear of death. 😿
The person who asked the question has been on the podcast many times and he always coughs. He most likely has a respiratory problem. The fact that he probably is in the vulnerable groups and is still against masks, should tell us at least something about the guy's faith in God's providence I'd say...
He can not infect him through the phone if thats what you are worried about 😂
If you guys are scared of being "controlled" just know that fear comes from the devil, God blessed scientists and doctors with knowledge to protect us and others. If you have faith in Christ our Lord there should be no fear over being controlled. We are so blessed that we are able to practice faith without harm unlike other countries, masks and this so called "control" do not prevent us from glorifying God, put your pride aside.
Was it me being deceived by satan when I was annoyed that I wasn't allowed in my church because I wasn't vaccinated? There needs to be a fear of God that is higher than the fear of any other thing.
I cannot understand all this discussions about wearing masks. Shouldn't we love our next and protect them wearing a mask? Shouldn't we not tempt God saying I will be careless and God will protect me? "You shall not put the Lord, your God to the test.'" (Matthew 4:7)
Yes. It's ridiculous how so many hierarchs of the Church are promoting a doomsday prophecy and mentality when people simply want to take their health and lives in their best interest. It's an odd mentality that many Orthodox Christians currently have that being Orthodox and faithful will somehow protect them from getting sick from the virus when that isn't the case. Testing God is never a good idea.
This video is not about doomsday. Please listen to it. And I am not aware of many hierarchs promoting doomsday prophesies... do you have examples? other than Neofytos... and he's not exactly promoting doomsday.
Agree
@@connorward409 happy hanukkah
Your argument destroys the meaning of every martyrdom that has ever happened. People are hurt by our deaths aren't they? So it is an act of malice and selfishness to be martyred. It is also an act of selfishness to separate ourselves from others and fallen world(as well as its ways and beliefs) too, then. So how do you justify being Orthodox? How do you justify the presence and nature of the church? I only can see your argument justifying universalism and nihilism. If we aren't going down the path of destruction all together as a whole human race, then we are alienating others and disregarding their feelings, are we not?
Horrible speech. How can a orthodox priest speak like this?