Complete Soviet Union Guide in Hearts of Iron IV!
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
- If you are looking for a complete guide on one of the strongest historical Soviet Union builds, then look no further! Watch along as I go through my patented (stolen) defence in depth strategy and unique (borrowed) approach to doctrine. Let me know what you think below!
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00:00 Early focuses, setup and objectives
07:27 Organising your army
09:31 Political paranoia & Stalin's purges
11:17 Early techs, advisors
13:15 Purge options, further focuses & setup
22:18 Officers corp and doctrines
22:51 More focuses and decisions
28:20 Final purge event
29:30 Fighter and tank technologies
31:03 Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact
33:00 Switch to mils and free annexations
33:40 Finland innit
34:11 Defence in depth setup & explanation
37:40 Next focuses & industry
38:25 Tank and fighter designs
43:40 When to switch from free trade
44:36 Build up supply networks
45:24 Main focuses complete
46:16 Spy network removing planning bonus
47:00 The only forts to build
47:30 Operation Barbarossa (German War)
1:03:20 Preparing to attack
1:04:07 Lessons of war complete
1:05:44 Attack! (Oooorahhhhh)
1:11:57 Win & Thanks for watching!
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15:41 I have an advice for you. I've played as the USSR plentiful of times and it's better if you keep your paranoia at Max at 20 or below, cause then you won't get any non-scripted purge events. Just spam forge satisfactory reports when you're at 20 paranoia and then purge the navy and by that time, you should be able to continue with the main political path which will reduce the paranoia and set it to 0
I agree. Ignoring paranoia like Hammo is too risky. Normally forging reports and inspecting the navy is not enough. You need to use the focus options to avoid random purges.
Also, select your production carefully. Don't just tick what you "may need later" but use the proper ratios for the troops you want to train early on. Add more trucks and support equipment because it will not be outdated like other equipment.
@@fuglbird ikr, but I don't think that a 70 day focus is worth it for -10 paranoia, so I usually purge the navy, airforce (if I really have no other choice) and forge satisfactory reports.
You can easily get by with just forging reports. 99% of the time no serious generals or advisers get purged.
One of my most memorable games was as Russia, I used the river in Western Russia as my defensive line and when the Germans attacked I was able to stop their attacks or push them back across if they broke through. Took awhile but I noticed their units were being bled dry in manpower and equipment so when I launched my counter offensive it was a blood bath after I routed the German army for some reason Britain and France declared war on me and I was able to defeat them eventually and then basically ended up in a war with everyone in europe down to the med and across to asia and I ended up annexing the entire map from Britain down to Italy over to Turkey then China Japan it was pretty epic and after that my new nation was just so overpowered with its resources, factories, manpower and equipment it was epic win
Hahaha they pulled an operation unthinkable on you 😂
Japaaaan multiplayer build, strategy, designs and naval moves to make USA player cry please ❤❤🙏
Hhahaha noted!
Socdem communist china is GOATED
I remember that when the No Step Back came out my strategy as the Soviet Union was simple, much like the Russian strategy during the war with Napoleon:
Give up some territory without a fight, stretch the supply line and take the Axis blow on the Dnieper-Dzhvina line. In the end, I was able to defeat the Axis in 1944-1945. Yesterday I was playing the Soviet Union and, watching your video, I thought to myself that in the early stages of the war it was better to field 120 divisions on the Axis border to take the blow and exhaust the Axis armies so that the Axis would be incapable of conducting any offensive operations. However, it turned out that my 120 divisions were able to stop 200 Axis divisions and inflict 3 million losses on them (I lost 250,000-300,00), which resulted in the Reich losing all its manpower. What's more - I destroyed the German air force in the east, so I was able to launch a counter-offensive, which ended in Frankfurt and Hamburg. Germany capitulated in the second half of 1942. I could not even finish the national focus: "Lessons from the War".
Post No Step Back with the supply system makes Germany VERY difficult to take out the Soviets. I also am a big believer in not giving up anything for free which will benefit the enemy. There's so many factories and resources in the area between the border and the Stalin line, I want it to cost the Germany player something to have it! Also makes it much easier for the allies when you whittle down their planes and manpower as you mentioned!
Yoooo, thank you so much for this!!
Happy to help!
Nice video! I am a total noob and even though I play a bit differently, there were a ton of useful tips in your video! Particularly the order of focus, explaining why to take things and do things first etc. The explaining is not too short or too long, thanks!
Thank you! Glad you liked it! 😀
Great video, keep up the single player guides ❤
Great guide. I however use R56 over vanilla. 1300 hours and only 4 achievements.
I just finished WW2, now in Cold War. I took out Japan before Germany attacked and CCP joined Comintern. Seriously overpowered. Industry is up to 750+ factories, 24 mil manpower reserves with 6 in the field, only used 1 full army of tanks, so a lot of stockpiled tanks, not to mention the 1 mil + guns. I didn’t ignore navy but also didn’t use it either. What a game. It’s really crazy to go from these sort of numbers when loading up Old World Blues. Speaking of, you should totally do some videos on that overhaul mod
Love R56 and OWB! Will certainly make videos on them one day!
Would love to see a germany guide with the changes on planes and tanks in AAT
Might do a redo after I do the other majors!
Great content as always!!! Would love to see Japan guide. The naval side puts me off a little but desperate to give them a good go!
Thanks so much! I'm going to do a us guide next, then a Japan one I think!
I usually like to play as if you’re trying to get the Not One Step Back achievement. Basically have at least 2 full army groups of infantry, the group of 11 tanks and 1 truck along the border (2 groups at the Hungary border) and lots of CAS and fighters in East Poland just allows you to win every battle as they grind against you until they’re so weakened that you can just steamroll your way to capitulating them (in all my runs the war ends at some point in late 1943) while losing like 2-3 tiles at most. This strategy also involves invading Turkey+Romania early so Romania’s not involved.
Also in this strategy during advances in Poland I like to start in the North and work my way southwestwards from there rather than invade from the entire border because it’s much easier to fight in the North; that area is mostly plains while the South is mountainous.
Awesome ! Didn't missed a single video. USSR is my favourite country, but still cannot find answer about Northern Fleet. Is constantly in imminent repair, while trained or even going from A to B. Watched him only through 5 years : broken - getting repaired all time. Trained him at Black Sea, but on way back get broken again. I know that fleet is weakest point for Sovjet Union, but rest of fleets just fine, only Northern. Read and watched many guides, but no one even noticed about this glitch. i know, fleet is not necessary for SU during WW2, but you need fleet to conquer the world. Game is not only to beat poor germans all vs one . So far one possible solution - early invasion of Netherlands, moved base there and now i'm robbing convoys in Atlantic and no broken ships anymore. :)
Ah! I can answer. The Baltic is a shallow sea. Accidents are vastly more likely in that sea terrain than in open oceans. You will lose a lot of naval IC as the Soviet Union because you don't have a single ocean sea zone in which to train.
@@sld1776 tried other countries with DLC on/off around Norway and Baltic shores. Same result - imminent repair,, once they entered waters. is this how developers favourising countries?
As a Soviet Union , I can move my fleet somewhere else, leaving shores and convoys unprotected, but where move their fleet northern and baltic countries ? Well, there is one solution - early Netherlands invasion and use their ports, but that is not historic way. Even upgrading fleet to top level not solving issue. Or maybe I'm missing something aka focus, but even with completed navy focus result is same
@@ericz8621 It's extra bad in the Baltic, because ships also suffer extra attrition from being in cold waters. There's no solution. If you want to train your fleet permanently, remember to click the button that lets ships go on auto-repair by themselves.
They just going in circles, no matter upgraded or not, fleet gets broken. Nations doomed by developers
@@ericz8621 real life hassles for nations that operate there!
I recently tried a „Human Wave“ Strategie as the Soviets.
I tried to maximize my reinforce rate with Radio and Mass Assault and spammed 500 Division on the Frontline.
As I had so many divisions constantly reinforcing they barely pushed me. And with a lot of manpower and equipment in Reserve I could very quickly go on the offensive.
Capitulated Germany in early 43. Casualties surprisingly moderate with 3mio considering I literally went with the head into the wall.
Hhaha many ways to skin a cat so to speak, glad you can have fun with different strategies!
At 7:42 could you tell me what happened to your horse and motorised divisions as I can't get my head wrapped around(it's my second day of playing hoi4)
Literally finished runs with USA and Germany and was ready to start a run as the SU. I found that most guides were a little outdated. Excellent timing mate =)
Haha perfect! Thanks so much!
Good video👍
Thanks 👍
Very cool
Thank you!
Thanks for this, its so helpful as I'm still learning. I noticed your Air experience starts to climb around nov 36. Why is that? I'm in may of 37 and my air experience is locked at 3 and not moving.
Glad to help! Good Q, it comes from a few things, when the Spanish civil war starts, send an attache and your air volunteers, TAC bombers work best! That's usually a bit later though, I also like to get the Chief of Airforce around then too so I can get the spirit of the airforce which gives a bonus to airfract research 😀 hope this helps!
@@hammotimee thank you it does! Appreciate the response! Love your content! please keep it coming and I will watch.
@@hammotimee sorry one last question. When you get your first spy you have an Operative that you can hire from Germany. I do not see that option, I can only hire from the pool. What causes Operatives to be available from a country?
@@TheMadison86 Happy to help! And don't be sorry, the agency upgrade (Local recruitment centres) allows you to recruit spies from different nations through the decision tree, I would recommend my video on spies if you want a bit more of an in depth look at how to use them! czcams.com/video/Iw3gjYMLYz4/video.html&ab_channel=HammoTimee
What did you do with your mountain troops? Which troops did you use for the initial Finnish front line defense, mountain troops?
They are either on the Hungarian border, or in reserve defending against naval invasions or paradrops!
Nah for Finland normal infantry and tanks is plenty
I also like to use a bit of diplomacy to maybe get the likes of Yugoslavia, Turkey or Romania on my side. Well, turns out in historical Romania will still flip on you... So maybe don't rely on that. I also don't always bother to annex the Baltics. But get them in your faction. That way you maybe care a bit less about that territory, shorten the frontline, and I haven't done the math but with about 10 divisions each, that is less troops you have to worry about controlling and equipping.
Definitely getting popular support in Turkey has worked out well for me. Closes off the Bosporus, which won't stop Germany I suppose, but can mean Italy won't do naval invasions. Also if you win the Spanish Civil War they can join your faction midwar, and between Spain and Turkey they can really come through the back door and give Italy a hard time.
Ooo yeah good idea, in the historical MP games I do that's not typically allowed, but go for your life in singleplayer!
You don't need Anti tank techs. Just research anti air techs as they also give some hard attack. Stick a support company AA in each division template and you are good to go. Saves on research slots.
Nah in MP games it helps against weaker tanks, and doesn't take much production!
this aint MP though...why mention historical in description then cite MP as source for strategy? AA support and even full battalions are very good, been using no-air strategy for several runs and even with boosted german AI they couldnt reach the dnieper line @@hammotimee
Tip for better play don't puge the NKVD the guy you get give you double poetical paranoia then the frist person so it's almost never worth it
Yagoda (first advisor) gives you -5% stability, enemy op detection +0.10%, enemy op capture chance +5% and civ intel to others -5%. It also reduces political paranoia by a heap when you purge him.
Yezhov (last advisor you end up with if you purge the previous two) gives you -10% stability, enemy op detection +0.10%, enemy op capture chance +10%, civ intel to others -10% and agency upgrade time -10%.
You can make your own choices up from this, but you can easily get your stability back as the Soviets, getting up to 100% is pretty straightforward, and the other intel boosts are worth it imo, plus better to purge a spy officer than generals or other advisors!
@hammotimee it is only 30, not really that much, and you save more by keeping him because he only gives 1 political paranoia a week where yezhov gives 2 a week while this may not sound like a lot more it really hurts you by giving you way more purge events idk if just don't want mess with the rng of the purges and you upgrade your agency by the end 38 if your bad and your so the upgrade agentcy 10% is pointless the only point kinda have 10% capture rate of spies and that is useful I will admit. I just personally hate rng of the soviet because my general get killed a lot. So, to its personal taste, do you want you 10% more capture spies or do want less purge events
@@samgilbert5973 hmm you could be onto something! I'd need to test it out to see if the extra paranoia actually leads to any addtional events on average, but I can't be bothered. Great point and well put!
There's no need to go to the Stalin line, you can perfectly chill on the Maginot line with lvl 7 forts and AA
The... the what? The maginot line is in france?
@@hammotimee I meant the Molotov line LOL
@@pedritoelhispanista.6185 Hahhaha I know what you mean
The main purpose of having troops that far back is so that if someone was to use this in MP, just in case they did break through or have paratroopers, they don't havea clean run through moscow, and it lets you train reserves far enough back they don't affect supply
Could you please do an updated version of your Germany guide
I will once I get through all the other majors!
Hey mate, just a bit of a question here. Why do a full defense in depth with this many losses, when you could just hold the Molotov river line? I've been doing it a lot in my test games and against a fully strengthened Germany it's still the winner. I had a test roach game where I set 3 fallback lines staggered behind that river and relocated my tanks where needed and that works really well for me.
Not wanting to be critical about the video, just asking why not stockpile PP before barbarossa, blow up all the land and consolidate all your forces in the defence of the river?
No it's a great question! The answer is that will absolutely work against AI. With the country guides, I want to find a balance between a singleplayer guide and also giving players a base to build off in multiplayer games tooo. In all my mp games, this strategy is almost impossible to beat haha
Oh and also, I very much feel that I don't want to give any land to Germany for free without making them pay for it, even if I destroy the industry there 😁
@@hammotimee Ohh that's understandable! I've played multiplayer a fair few times fighting against this exact same strategy and I see what you mean regards giving up as little land as possible, hell I'm sure the person I fought copied this guide to a T haha! Since then I've learnt a good hard counter to this (In multiplayer), and that's a slow creeping Germany player taking provinces one by one, repairing supply lines behind them and outproducing the soviets in air whilst using main brute force army of tanks or mech in africa and helping Italy whilst you prep your supply lines for the real fight and attempt to whittle down the soviet air with mass AA and fighters. Just not fun being on the recieving end of endless naval invasions...
Thank you very much for replying though, creators that reply to comments even after a month are dedicated to their arts and kudos my friend, and thanks for this guide, I was wondering how he did it and this has solidified some of the choices I need to make. Cheers!
Yeah the one by one tactic is one I find i struggle to have the patience for, but it's the only way! @OwenIsDaBoss
Of course! More than happy to reply to people, I try to reply to every comment because at the end of the day, you guys are what keeps me going! Thanks so much for the support 😀
Please cover. Norway and Finland!
Ooo maybe Finland!
Would the cheap conscripts be effective in multiplayer?
Done this in multiplayer and it works well! (Not serious mp but games with my community 😁) Dankus or Tommy would beat it though 😂
Finally
Hhaha only took me 12 months
I cant find what template you used for your infantry divisuons?
Like did you upgrade them to 7/2s?
For the main infantry, 18w inf only with support AA, arty, engineers and later AT. For the "conscript" fallback divisions, just 18w infantry, no supports!
"Agroprop" lol. Ag-it-prop (rhymes with badge-it-prop). Good guide otherwise. Hadn't played soviets for years (like la resistance or something). This is the kind of historical barbarossa I always wanted to play, where the germans can actually push you back pretty good, instead of just stopping them cold at the border.
You know what I meant 😂 thanks mate! Appreciate it!
Why do my research paths look different than yours? Is it because I don't have DLC?
Which research paths? And yeah if you are missing some DLCs this will look different
@@hammotimee my plane and tank paths look a little bit different and I don’t have armored trains
Ur war stragey was a bit silly, it is very easy and possible to hold the line if you make actually good infantry instead of of spamming 500 crappy divisions and difficult to micro infantry
It is with the current supply system, but this worked before they changed the supply system and will work after they make changes making it easier for Germany, so will last longer as a strategy. My channel is also new player focused, and the less micro is required the better
Bf 109 are from Finland I think😊
It's Sherlock Holmes! I didn't even think of that haha
How does infantry do so well with so few width and few artillery? Doesn't make sense to me..... wish more examples of templates were thrown into the video..... where I suffer the greatest
I do showcase it a few times, even without supports, the main purpose of this type of infantry division is just to delay the enemy through sheer numbers and the 30% entrenchment bonus you get through grand battleplan
italy guide please!
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If I were in Stalins shoes, I would completely skip the officer mass purges....and thats what I would like to do not only IRL but in this game also, if possible. I know the allegations of wide treason in officer corps was nothing but hoax planted by Abwehr. If I remember correct, there was only one disloyal traitor among Soviet highest ranking officers but I cannot remember his name.
In real life there were many opposisitional terrorist organisations who comitted industry sabotage and other heinous stuff. Kinda justified but there were also some innocents and peace loving people in the gulgs or executed
Same bro but sadly that's not an option hahaha
@@tangystone436 I was talking about the purge of the high ranking officers of the RKKA (Red Army), not purges against the civilian population. Lots of competent RKKA officers (such as Tukhatshevsky) died in the purge and in the beginning of Winter War, almost whole RKKA was commanded by political commissars and outrageously incompetent fools. Even the civilian side suffered so much due to Stalins actions they were largely not justified though I understand his concerns for states/his own security and his fears that ethnic minorities could side with the Axis Powers in the war he knew was coming up.
Bro literally skipped half the industry focuses and military reorganisation
Clearly didn't need em
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Heavy tanks are better for ussr
Says who
@@hammotimeethey are pretty good for pushing back the germans, making holes in their divisions, well at least thats how i go from defense, to offense
At 7:42 could you tell me what happened to your horse and motorised divisions as I can't get my head wrapped around(it's my second day of playing hoi4)
Converted them to infantry!