Superstar Saga, but there's WAY too many rules...
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- Can I beat Mario And Luigi Superstar Saga With TOO Many RULES? Will the Mario and Luigi be able to complete their Journey without Items, Multistats, or Optional Battles? Well, you'll have to watch until the end to find out.
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Challenge RULES:
1. No Items in Battle
2. No Optional Battles
3. No Multistats
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Gym Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:28 Bowser
1:51 Fawful
3:55 Tolstar
5:47 Hoohooros
6:55 Dragohoho
7:42 Queen Bean
9:33 Popple and Rookie
11:13 Wiggler
13:05 Chuckolator
14:18 Cackletta
17:32 Popple and Rookie #2
17:55 Mom Piranha
20:11 Trunkle
22:50 Hermie III
25:58 Popple #3
27:10 Piranha Bean
28:01 Jojora and Teeheena
31:18 Poopple #4 and Birdo
32:50 End game prep
34:04 The Koopalings
37:45 Fawful
38:22 Bowletta
39:37 Cackletta’s Soul
41:37 The End!
The ending song included from Lud and Schlatts Musical Emporium
• We Shop Song
• Cello Suite - Bach [CO...
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Who is your MVP bro?
This is something new I wanted to try out! Hope you guys enjoy!
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Also what are multistats
@@GlitchythePumpkin nice choice! Also multi stats is increasing more than one stat in the roulette. Like HP or Defense. I can only increase one of the 6 stats.
you mean 6? Theres hp, pow, def, speed, stache and bp
also thx
@@GlitchythePumpkin ye I miss counted. Also Np!
Luigi always carrys me
This challenge is the reason why I fight every single enemy I see on my casual playthroughs, because without leveling up you’re going to be so under leveled that you’ll most likely die in 2-3 hits
Yeah that was the problem with the majority for the challenge until we got the barriers.
22:45 This is because the bros’ levels are weird in these games, mario levels up faster than luigi in the beginning but then they swap and luigi requires less xp to level up, and so on swapping every once in a while
Interesting thanks for the information!
@@AquaticSky no prob!
Broooooo the beaaaannzz scene caught me man laughed my ass off for literally half an hour. Love your vids homieee
Lmao I’m glad you like it
Interestingly I tried what's called a Nerve Mode of DS BIS and the rules were:
1. Jump/Hammer/Punch/Fire Breath only, no specials allowed
2. no items, no heals(exceptions are the heals in badge tutorial+4 Sockhop battle)
3. no equipment/Badges(there's an exception for Dark Star, Dark Fawful+Vacuum helmet's combined 4k hp+5 turn wait time, and Dark Bowser's estimated 475k/500k hp in 1500 revives)
4. +1 level per area arc. say its bowser's turn in story, he gets +1 level, if its the bros, they get +1 level
5. Shroob fight is required and forced(they do near 900 damage). its very easy and they only give 900 exp, no +1 level specifically before that fight.
6. Bowser is allowed to heal w/Vacuum on say Beehoss and Treevils, cuz Vacuum command is important, and same for Refreshrooms, as they're temporary giant battle items so they can be used. he still dies in 1-2 hits late-game.
I can confirm Dark Star is the most difficult boss in DS BIS but am unsure about the remake:
Dark Star, while normally easy cuz the game assumes you're using equips and stuff, actually is the hardest boss in the game by far. in fact I can confirm it is completely impossible to defeat Dark Star at level 22. the lowest level the bros would be at. there's several reasons.
the 1st is that Dark Star outspeeds at level 22. because of that, when its made vulnerable, it will rise up on its turn immediately after the bros go during that cycle cuz its faster than them.
the 2nd, the Dark Satellmites can heal it for over 120 hp by the 2nd-3rd cycle, much more than you deal even w/Excellent+POW badge(required).
3rd, the 4 color orb attack. if its "4 of the same color" and it specifically goes "Top to Bottom" you're screwed, as its near-impossible to avoid if you don't jump correctly by the 2nd orb.
I found the reason for this is cuz Dark Star bats the 3rd and 4th orbs too fast to be jumped over.
you jump the 3rd, but the 4th will always catch the bro right in their "hitbox" right as they jump. I can confirm this is true.
I found and tested that this's most deff cuz its "Closer" to the screen as to why its not avoidable if you screw the 2nd jump up.
Dark Star's deff the most aggressive boss in the game under such rules, in fact the only way you can actually beat it with such rules is at exactly level 35. at level 35 Mario, w/no speed upgrades(via level or equips),
outspeeds it, so he gets 1 extra turn in its vulnerable cycle.
combined with excellent+POW badge(this is required. I can confirm this.) this's legit the only way to beat the Dark Star.
The remake's what I'm uncertain of, cuz I heard the 4 color orb attack from specifically "Top to Bottom" is thankfully nerfed, cuz DS BIS it was near-unavoidable for the reasons above, you had to be frame perfect by the 2nd orb there or you just die to it.
but I'm happy to confirm its possible to beat BIS like this. it deff wasn't intended to at all but deff possible.🤲
the Excellent+Pow badge's deff required for the final 3 fights without a doubt.
Partners in Time is really similar to this, but you only need the bros items the game gives you naturally(no buying bros items and no badges.)+can farm mrs Thwomp no problems. I can confirm Level 23 is the sweet-spot to beating PiT's Nerve Mode.
You can deff beat it at the level of 19, which's where you'd be at, but its basically a TAS after Elder Princess Shroob's 1st phase cuz of 400 hp foot+damage being pathetic. so 23's the true level otherwise. 🤔
You took all this time to write this for no likes? Don't worry I got you
Another streamer also has a challenge called nerve mode. Where do you think the term originated?
@@phictionofgrandeur2387 hrm I actually ain't sure where the term nerve mode originated.
I only saw it when scrolling through youtube one day by a person who did it for both Partners in Time and Superstar Saga, if you type in Superstar Saga/Partners in Time nerve mode, you'll deff be able to find their walkthrough and videos on it
Just found your channel, I see a channel glimmering with potential that it’s crazy how you don’t have more subs
@@alexdrake4081 thank you for the support!
This video is so underated like fr when I started to watch this I thought you were more popular but damn you deserve more likes and subs and views because your hilarious and its fun to watch!
Hey man, I actually appreciate it! I put a lot of effort into the video so I’m glad there’s some people who enjoyed it!
@@AquaticSky Of course anytime man! I really enjoyed this!
Honestly, the original version of the game might've been harder for this challenge due to the lack of barriers.
nice challenge! playing superstar saga (the original) while intentionally avoiding battles really made the game that much harder, since the bros die so quickly!
I’m glad you liked it! I can’t even imagine doing this in the original lol
@@AquaticSky to put it simply, the cackletta fight in the middle of the game took me ~10 minutes and several 1-ups… this was also my first time playing the GBA games with their wonky bros attack timings, lol… pretty fun tho
Can I ask a question. How the fuck is fixing the plumbing the key to taking down a security system, which in turn leaves open the bean bean kingdom's sacred star?
Haha just some Mario and Luigi Shenanigan the plumbing is what locks it's protection so it's kinda like a safe fail-safe for the BeanStar.
@@AquaticSky And now I'm just waiting on you challenge Pokémon Unbound, cuz that'll be fun.
For sure! I need to think of a challenge run the game.
@@AquaticSky Well there a few in game features you could try. Here, I can let you know on discord.
bro I dont mean to be that guy but im pretty sure your breaking your rules by using beans because it goes against the no items rule, or am i wrong and is it a no BATTLE items rule
@star_hat no it’s fine I get the confusion. From the very start I meant no items in battle. The list of my rules are in the description.
I thought multi stat apply to the coffe you said it at 0:37 but then later you brew a lot to get more power...
@@kilixgamer9914 yeah no multistats means I can’t increase HP if I’m increasing Pow. If I increase Pow it’s gonna stick like that for the whole challenge.
@@AquaticSky oh I understand, sorry for the confusion
it's all good!
Now, play Shin megami tensei nocturne with only Demi fiend
idk about that lmao I've only played the persona games if anything.
@@AquaticSky I was Joking, ofc you dont have to lol
I might consider Persona 3 reload with only the protag though!
There’s actually an infinite money trick where if Mario is small and you try to high jump and press A Luigi will give money but it only works if Luigi has HP and when he runs out down to 1 you have refill it for the trick to work again, but it’s not like you’d use it in a challenge lol because y’know infinite money is broken
Lmao yeah I considered doing that but the greed wallet kinda made that irrelevant.
good video👍
Glad you enjoyed!
The original is more difficult than the remake
Are you gonna try other Super Mario & Luigi games with challenge rules? Bowser's Inside Story is one of the best I heard.
Ye. I'm currently doing it in Bowser's inside story and boy is it a pain.
@@AquaticSkyI'm excited for partners in time
Are you going to do the rest of the games in the series? I'll be waiting for Partners in Time.
Oh for sure! I wanna get at least one playthrough PIT first though sense I have never finished that game before. I wanna do that before challenging myself in it. So a BIS too many rules might come out first. Total alpha dream move.
@@AquaticSky Cool. If you're going to emulate it, here's a tip; download the European version of the game, since it's much more balanced than the American one.
@@gvssrsg4162 oh for real! Sounds good. The American version sounds like a good challenge also. Thanks for the advice!
@@AquaticSky Welcome, bro
@@AquaticSkythe American version isn't harder, just longer.
Whats up with the M and L with + numbers, at the end of a boss battle. Whats it stand for?
A tally on which bro gets the final on each mandatory fight. I used that to find out who the MVP bro is
Technically only buffing power is superstar saga’s easy mode so i think it could have been harder
what's a multistat?
Dare you to do this in Dream Team
On hard mode
I wouldn't mind. I'm doing this in the US version of Partners in time already.
Now do it on level 1 only
You got me messed up!! But I wouldn’t mind lol.
That requires hacks.
I did this once because the game was too easy
How did the challenge go for you?
@@AquaticSky relatively well, I had played this game multiple times before, the original and remake so dodging the boss attacks wasnt really a big deal. I was a bit frustrated at joke's end tho.
I get that. It was very narrow so running into enemies was common.
19:40
The remakes are NOT harder 💀
Well, some aspects of them are.
I noticed that Cackletta is WAY harder in the remake than in the original.
Cackletta's moves not only are harder to dodge or counter, but she has more moves now compared to the original.
Plus, the removal of infinite attacks makes bosses not able to be one shot anymore.
@@carlosemilio385 bruh there's HP blocks everywhere, you are NOT dying.
@@OmegaChase1002??? I don’t think HP blocks have anything related to do with the fights in general. Sure HP blocks are helpful in the main game and can save you a lot of healing items, but unless you’re decently leveled, the HP blocks are pretty useless. I’m not saying that the remakes are harder than the remakes, I’m saying that some aspects from them are harder.
@@OmegaChase1002plus, are you going to see a single HP block during a boss battle?
@@carlosemilio385 those blocks ensure that youll always be prepared and be able to save your items for when your need it. also advanced bros moves are easier to do.
a few extra attacks isnt gonna make a game harder when the games practically holding your hand.