Installing Piston Rings The Easy Way "NO TOOLS"!
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 17. 02. 2013
- In this video I show and explain the easiest way to install your piston rings with out breaking them.
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been doing this for 40 years never used a ring installer ,good post .
Amen brother, there's always a know it all. I've seen engines with rings carefully installed last more than 20 years and still going.
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That little lip you are talking about on the top ring is not to make it easier to put on, it goes UP so that the air or compression goes behind the ring and forces the ring out against the wall for a better seal against the cylinder wall when the piston is travelling up.
Why are all these ring experts watching this video?
Invest in a piston ring expander. You are making a permanent twist on the piston rings that will affect them sealing. That little chamfer on the top piston ring goes up. It helps the compression get behind the piston ring to make it expand out.
estos videos me an servido de mucho e resuelto mi problema
Yes, I'll be making one, I have about 8 videos I'm editing at the moment.
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dude the last compression ring has a lip and should be facing up! because when the compression stroke happen that lip act actuator during pressure to seal tight against cylinder wall .
I checked my engine manual. Mine says it should be facing up.
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salve. este foi o unico video que encorajou-me a fazer este tipo de serviço. tenho uma rural ford, com motor bf161. muito obrigado pela confiança aqui depositada neste video. ricardo pacheco ( florianopolis/sc/brasil/)
how do i rings an 4e engine is its the same step like wht u did? an dose every engine have marks for the timing belt?
will this work on a yamaha warrior 350
do you need to gap the the second a third ring?
So what is the "lip" at the inner edge for - to make it go easier to go down over the piston????
Does it matter if there is a scratch on the piston above the top or second lands?
Thanks for the video. Don't listen to these other guys dude. Some people get super butt hurt whenever they see a different way of doing something.
Well done.
great information
dude thanks for the vid now i need to know how to clock the piston rings if you can post a vid of it i would realy be glad
Thank u good info
Great thanks
How much bore clearance is there above the top ring?
GREAT GREAT GREAT TUTORIAL !!!!
that info help me a lot thank you very much
sijto molina how are you
Some of the best mechanics are ones that never went to school, they learned hands on in their own garage,trial and error. When you've been repairing and rebuilding engines over a decade you do alot of research..in my book that's better then a text book schooling.
And I have not gone to school, but no schooling and never studied for a Master ASE Certified Technician test" I took the study guide which has about 16 tests and has all A,B & C test and I scored a 89.7 without studying.
Is it universal with all rings to have the lip facing down to scrape oil?
I have a question, when we install the piston rings we have to turn them 120 or 180 degrees and must not let face as the piston pin. My question is why? Sorry if ia had write something wrong.
Well I just hope this CZcams channel is useful because I got piston rings I got to replace in my Geo Storm.
Anyway thank you sir for lesson.
hi there i have a question so the two bottom rings opening suppose to sit opposite way rite? how bout the two rings that u put on last do u set the opening opposite also? thanks
I will tell you since no one responded. All rings should have the opening facing in different directions and never in a straight line for the same reason he said on the video. bottom oil ring face 12 o'clock top oil ring face 6 o'clock oil scrapping ring face 3 o'clock and compression ring face 9 o'clock. That should set you up fairly good.
Oh and never face the place where the mesh joins at any of those openings. That last part about the mesh is just my opinion. I haven't heard anyone say anything about it but it makes sense in my mind.
what is the proper position of the piston rings, for honda civic for EXAMPLES P2P piston rings thank you
How come the rings move soo much on the piston? Is this the way it normally is or has the ring been over stretched? ï»ż
good video bud!
Thanks
What for this piston car/motorcycle is?
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hey is the top ring smaller than the middle ring I mean fatter than the top? how do you tell the top two rings apart?
just a question for me lol i always thought the top 2 rings were compression and the oil ring was the bottom ring with the 3 piece . but you said the 2nd ring (middle) pulls the oil
the two top are compression
maybe i misheard when i watched... lol
great video! question if you have new rings, is there a way to broke in your new rings? after a new rebuild engine.,
Prime the oil pump by cranking engine without fuel pump fuse in. Then crank her over and wait until to operating temp. Then take car on a light easy drive for around 100 miles. Come home change oil. Run again for another 100 miles. Come home and change oil again.
Everything new should be broken in.
Be very light on the engine when breaking it in.
3 oil changes is to get any metal particles out that the break in process may have shaved off. There is nothing special about new rings they follow the same break in.
Also use plenty of assembly lube when putting everything in except on bearing to journal surfaces. Those need to stay a little rough like the cylinder wall so your bearings don't spin around in a circle.
Lots of stuff to think about on a engine rebuild.
can you use that style on ten wheeler truck piston rings,,pls make a video..
i like what i see so far
:) You are correct, just recording you say odd things lol.
How much clearance does the piston have above the top ring? And the second ring?
No comment? - Do you know what you are doing??
hello, can we do that for all engines (scooters, motorcycle engines...)? thanks
+Ayoub Abderrazik Yes.
thank you
Good info
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clocking the end gaps is necessary to avoid blow by on the first start up, the cross hatch on the cylinder walls causes the ring to rotate a little bit, two strokes are pinned so the ring doesnt catch on the port and break, by the way the barrel face top ring like in a honda seals better and thier is less ridge build up in the top egde of the cylinder
What's the torque settings for the cylinder head and pistons?
If you're looking for torque specs for this specific engine you can find them on my website. It's been a while, but I believe this was a Honda D-series piston. www.nthefastlane.com/honda-torque-specs
If you need any other torque specs for a different engine, just click the "Service Manual Download" button on my website. You'll be able to find any service manual you need.
i was supposed to do laundry, then the first 10 seconds caught my attention lol.
You never twist a ring! You will deform it and it will not spin freely while the engine is running. Then you will have a stuck ring, and you have to change it again pretty soon. You actually have to pull it out, and no you are not going to break it that way, not if you are using ring pliers.
To everyone that belives this is a improper way to install piston rings, please by all means call Koenigsegg up and tell them they are building their mulitimillion dollar Koenigsegg One Supercars wrong. Skip to 12:00
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the video link you gave does not show the compression rings going on he is rolling on the oil rings genius, they are spring steel and don't need an expander I have been an automotive Machinest for 25 years so according to you all the automakers and me and pretty much anyone with a brain is wrong and you are right because you say so. like I said your clueless watch the video in the link Below so you can get a clue and then remove your video from You Tube it's WRONG!!
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Myvintageiron7512 Guess you need to rewatch the video again, right after the oil ring and before the next scene he begins to slide the 2nd ring on, also notice he has no ring pliers on his desk.To each their own.
Myvintageiron7512 I agree he did not fit tension rings by hand. only oil rings
Yea anyone with common sence can see it some people just don't get it
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good video
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Will it work by hand? sure. As an inexperienced engine builder, I've done it in the past and it worked for the couple thousand miles I drove the car. Is this the correct way? absolutely not. piston ring installation pliers are only 10 bucks on Amazon, and $35 for Snap-on. Well worth it to ensure the rings will seat correctly on the piston grooves. Something you can't see by the naked eye. Also for the most part the groove in the top ring is for the combustion gasses to push the ring down. You have it upside down, it should be facing the combustion chamber.
amelia gibson different applications use different designs in different orientations. ya just gotta follow the installation directions from the part manufacturer. sometimes the directions tell you to install them in an orientation which seems incorrect at a glance.
amelia gibson damn imagine inventing this stuff and not having the tools to install it? lol.. every time I've done it I've never had an engine brake ;)
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Is there a video where u alignh the piston rings?
i dont see ur video how to clock piston ring...... can u make a video cause im trying to learn how to clock a d16 civic piston rings
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Thanks alot
Are you can do it the correct way with a $2 ring expander tool.
Some people have no access to shops who sell it and need to wait 2-3 weeks to get it by mail.
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Hey quick question. The there a k20a2 i was looking at buying but the guy says it smokes and could use new rings. Here the link below. Do you think its worth it? cause if it needs new rings its probably best to just rebuild it. lmk your thoughts i really enjoy your videos.
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What's he asking Daniel?
some piston ring slots have a little pin to tell which way is the ring top.
all the top two rings I have ever installed have been marked / etched TOP....simple ... they are tapered as far as I know,
thx did this but didnt know if it was ok...same as ring tool
One of my compression rings snap because I try to roll it on
Agree the hand is better than the tool ! LOL
Another miss , did anyone clean the carbon deposits out of the ring groove?
how to destroy Piston rings, the easy way.
Maybe because grew up in it, rebuilding engines is super easy. In nearly 30 years of wrenching I've never met on that wasn't happy to see me. I've never met one I couldn't make happy. Give me fuel, fire, I'll give u that which u desire. All it is is a self driven pump
as for ring clocking, the top ring gap can be at 2 oclock and the scond ring at 8, the front of the engine can be 6 oclock, the deal is you dont wont any ring gap over the wrist pin hole as for the rings for the oil control one ring can be at 10 oclock and the other at 4 and the end gap for the wavy ring at 8 oclock or 2 o clock setting the ring ends at 3 or 6, oclock are the thrust sides and is not a good idea
Appreciated the Bible verse and the great instructions!
I'd put money on that I would stretch a ring less then with a "ring tool",by the time the ring tool get'sï»ż the ring open enough to compensate for it's own indention's in the tool,you've nearly stretched the ring more then double without the tool.
Nthefastlane can you stfu.
Hey buddy ive worked at KSUS or Kolbenschmidt KSPG Automotive one of the top piston mfrs. in the US. And i can assure you and everyone watching that all of them rings are now completely out of spec. NEVER USE YOUR HANDS TO INSERT NI-RINGs OR EXPANDERS! No tools = near future problems. But its up to vewier to make their choice, Im just alil mfr. advice on proper protocol.
The spreader is a dated tool.
When approaching re-ringing a piston you have to make the decision on how you install them based on the rings you are using. Many factors play a role in how you go about doing it.
These rings are obviously low tension rings and not the higher tension rings the spreader was designed for. Now if he had his ring guides widened and chose to use thicker rings then yeah I doubt he would be able to install them without a spreader. These flimsy stock rings are just fine to install that way since he is depending on the cylinder wall to square things up for him. They will be within spec once the piston is inside the cylinder.
I have seen those spreaders snap the low tension rings. Not a great feeling when using a tool everyone says was designed for the job.
I'm not saying your wrong to use a tool to install them I am just saying there are many factors to consider before you choose the way your gonna install them.
+jordanfilibeck And..do not install the rings unless you checked/adjusted the ring end gap.
Not a single ring manufacturer recommends winding rings on, what a goose
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I never seen the "number" N before what does it smell like? Just kidding đ€Ł
Smells like "N"othing đ. The letter "N" stands for Nippon. That's the piston ring brand.
Hay, nice videos
Its a good help for me Thanks..
Do you know where can i buy just the oil pump internal parts,
im looking just for the oil gears. every were i go they want to sell me the whole front cover with oil pump and seal..
any info would be great..
The bevel chamfer on the compression ring has nothing to do with ease of installation. It is for torsional twist, to improve oil control and compression.
Just a tip, don't align any gap with the pin.
santosh
Don' use this technique if you are building an engine late at night and all the parts stores are closed. You might brake a ring. Use a ring tool.
Lol,I prob wouldn't advise people to install rings this way and then tell them to put the number up and then down..someone about to get massive oil usage and blow by out the ass
If it has a number it must face up. And the number is 'N' lol
so many "thats what she said" moments!!!
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I wouldn't unless it's cheap.
great job thanks a lot
I can't get the piston into the cylinder head. Help
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+Vince Leonard Pistons don't go into the cylinder head, they go into the block. Unless there is some type of engine I've never heard of where everything is ass backwards? Look on Amazon for a piston ring compressor. This tool fits around your piston and rings then you tighten it which will compress your rings, then you put it into the cylinder. Make sure to put some rubber or plastic tubing on ends of the rod so you don't scratch your cylinder walls. Once it's lined up with the cylinder use a plastic hammer or a piece of wood and a normal hammer and lightly tap in the piston.
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5:50 up is not a number, it's a word.
Alway grab the tip :) hehe
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If only you knew what you are talking about it would be a bit safer for people reading this stuff all over the world to do things in the right manner.
I thought was a 6g72 piston
No he didn't there is no compression ring going on in that video it's an oil ring they show it twice in the video but it's the oil ring both times YOU CANT ROLL THESE ON DUDE IT DAMAGES THE RING
12:08 he begins to roll the 2nd compression ring, you can see him starting the ring.
Nthefastlane Are you talking about 12:22? 12:08 is an oil ring too.
Myvintageiron7512 11:59 he already had installed the top oil ring. Then at 12:08 he's putting the bottom oil ring on. So at 12:20 he is grabbing the 2nd ring to hand install it.Just takes a professional to install rings by hand, that's the reason a lot of people can't or wont do it.
Anonimo Anonimo 12:20 hes grabbing the 2nd ring to hand install it. the oil rings were already installed.
Nthefastlane Yes, that's what I said.
i guess there a difference between a mechanic and a technician...
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At 4:34 you are bending piston ring most manufacturer's like 'Cummins' put a note in ring instalation procedure that you CAN NOT bend piston rings like that - use only piston rings plyers then piston ring in its groove will be straight.
He is depending on the cylinder wall to square up the rings once the piston is installed.
They mean that a kink cannot be put in the ring. Doing it this way will not kink the ring and is one of the many ways this has been done.
Ring spreaders were used back when the rings had a lot of tension to them. Now manufacturers have gone to low tension rings in around 1985. The idea of the tool was that it was needed because opening the higher tension rings were almost impossible by hand. We all just continued using a dated tool.
Not to mention I have seen spreaders snap a new ring because when opening spring steel up and not giving any side play at all the force is being place to the rear of the ring and sometimes can snap the ring. Not a happy feeling.
Doing it this way eliminates snapping the ring.
D17 piston? Got to be a civic piston