Playing the 360° spinning guitar is UNREAL
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- čas přidán 22. 01. 2024
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So far I have gotten in contact with Rob Scallon, Charles Berthoud and Ichika Nito to play this thing! We will travel to the US in March, so if you know some famous players or CZcamsrs who we should stop by let me know! Also I for some reason cut it out, but I have spent a good amount of days redesigning the part were the spinning thing connects, now using a slipring. You can hear how much less noisy this guitar is now, even when I play with much more distortion this time. Oh and sign up to Rocksmith+
If you go anywhere near Canada, I'd love to see Nik Nocturnal play it, seems like something he'd be down for
You should try to get the dooo to play it
steve vai might be a good one hes used to playing crazy guitars
Tosin Abasi
This is honestly incredibly zased I want to see it so bad omg
That guitar needs songs written for it specifically
Oh, I need to hear that for sure!
It's basically a brand new instrument onto itself
I would happily write those songs, just give me that beautiful toy 🤩
written with it...?
While my guitar gently wheels!
The first time Mattias didn't try to play River flows in you😂.
hahaha I actually did play it, but due to this being an ad I was restricted to some songs for copyright so I had to cut it out!
@@Mattiaskrantz 😂😂😂
@@Mattiaskrantz lol
@@Mattiaskrantzomg wait if charles plays this, make him play river flows in you on this with the 2 handed tapping lol
@@MattiaskrantzYou should have an alternate channel where you upload songs or something.
I have never ever watched a full length video that tells me up front that the entire video is an ad. But I did watch this one. No regrets. Might even try that app.
Honestly, I liked the video. While it was an ad, it was related to the channel and its content and could be quite helpful to a bunch of people. This is really how ads should be done. So many ads are just added in to the video and I just skip over them. Having the whole video related to the ad promoted the product better, gave clear understanding about the product and its cost. It flows quite well for this project.
I liked the heads up, won't try the app, but watched it nonetheless. It's part of the journey of learning this instrument, and that's interesting to watch even in ad form.
"No one hears the bass anyway". And that IS true.
We dont hear it, we feel it.
what? no it isn't, the bass is loud and proud in most songs lol It's just people think the guitar is doing the bass
You don’t hear the bass.
You do hear its absence though.
The funny part of this comment is that I heard that in the video and I went down to see the comments and I found you first lmfao
@@MonsterJuiced the bass most of the time blends into the guitar and only people who know how to single it out can tell it apart
If you don't hear the bass, upgrade to a proper speaker.
The round neck helps w/ barre chords by matching the curvature of your fingers.
I kinda want a rounded neck guitar now 'cause I always have trouble with bar chords on guitar 'cause my fingers are too short and don't bend like that
@@NettylSpryngs There's no such thing. You just need to practice more :D
@@Sirkrow96 or build one :3
@@Sirkrow96 Nah, I just play ukulele instead. Doesn't hurt my fingers as much
My fingers are too large.
I would recommend Tyler Larson who has been known to seek out weird guitars, or Rhett Schull who is a working guitarist with lots of connections in the industry. If you will be in Canada either Sammy G (Samurai Guitarist) who delights in weird musical instruments, or Darrell Braun would be good choices.
Sammy G or Steve Terreberry playing this thing would be great
Oh yeah Sammy G
Cool looking guitar. To make it easier to play you could add a stepper motor to rotate the neck to fixed positions, and 3 or 4 pedals for each (depends on how many neck positions are needed of course). That way you could quickly switch between playing bass and solo without causing the noise and and time delay.
I was thinking maybe even a stepper then programmed rotations for songs so you didn't even have to think about it you just have what you need
He actually already has it setup for that with a belt drive/stepper (see build video), not sure why he hasn't rigged up a pedal board for preset positions yet. Maybe it's more fun to spin...or less dangerous? lol
Maybe just a lever? Having a big lever near the right hand that flips it mechanically might be easier than electrically.
Wouldn't that ruin the purpose though? If you wanted fixed positions, you might as well get a double neck with 1 bass neck and 1 guitar neck. I think what's interesting here is that the constant spinning allows for new ways to play.
I mean your suggestion would for sure make playing songs and rocksmith easier haha
My thought was that you could have one pedal to switch between locked & free spinning, as well as maybe another one to I.e flip 180 degrees or to certain sections like I.e bass. Then you can do everything, but it might get a bit easier
"Let's turn it to the highest difficulty, because we're delusional-" lmao it's too relatable
For the unbalanced spinny bit, you could try a weighted disk made to cancel out the weight.
Looks like a shoulder strap would help, too.
@@truthandreality4650 i was going to say why didn't he put a strap on the guitar.
@@truthandreality4650aren't straps typically hooked to the neck?
@@Appletank8The body.
I think you could make it easier to play if you added a rotary encoder and a microcontroller to turn your motor into a servo, this will give it sufficient position control to:
- lock the rotation to a specific position, you could even make presets that you could link to a pedal or something
- detect if the user is spinning it and guide the position it ends up at so that it ends up at a whole chord
a motor servo to a pedal would be awesome I think. was gonna say that when he originally made this but so glad others are thinking the same
Since this is a round someone could write some music to follow the strings in their order meaning that the entire time you play you scale up or down in a flow so that you lead in to the base. It would be quite cool as the music can start at the base section and move on wards and end up finishing at the base or another section.
Would "Prelude", the Final Fantasy crystal theme song work for that? czcams.com/video/sgg79-jxKao/video.html
@@DuelScreen Yep that is quite like how I imagined it yet only add in filler. For example string 1 to 4 could be played for a moment in any order to lead up to string 4 to 8 and those played for a bit then 9 to 12 played. You could mix it up a bit as well yet going from say string 9 and rotating it far enought to say hit string 3 would be wrong.
If one was to play this and the drum was moving at a slow pace one could still play it if you know what I mean? I would guess that all notes could not be further than 4 strings apart at any given time.
A duet would be the most interesting to me.
Good ad spot. Didn't mind that it was a 100% endorsement. Did a good job selling the product while still being an interesting vid about learning to play your crazy guitar. Rocksmith looks sweet, if I wanted to learn guitar.
You will one day master this instrument I cannot wait to see where you go from here!
Yeah. He's invented a real instrument which I predict will never become mainstream but will be used by more than one person in the future.
@@jovetj I'd love to see him toss it to some prog musicians; considering how unorthodox it is, and how much potential it possibly has, it seems like the kind of instrument that they'd lose their shit over.
@@jamesruth100 Yep. Just gonna take time and dedication to master it!
Ahhh you have a chapman stick I see.
Get a load of my Krantz Toob!!!
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@@jamesruth100 I could see Tony Levin learning it ngl lol
Rocksmith looks amazing. This is probably one of the coolest sponsors I've seen.
Rocksmith is a great game. Only one problem... Ubisoft.
I have it for PC, I think it's an older version but it is quite good and it can help with motivation because it gamifies the whole process a bit more.
@@kaelanime7750 u mean Bugsoft, right?
@@GamerdevilPro I can't remember exactly what it was about the original that DROVE ME ABSOLUTELY NUTS (blocked that memory probably), it was something to do with the training functions where you can move around the track and start at different points. Thought it made practicing songs almost impossible.
The 2014 fixed that issue completely and was terrific fun. I already knew how to play guitar decently well, but it was still great for learning new songs for my cover band. =)
I really don't mind ad videos like this as long as they fun.
Its also much better than those "this portion of the video" BS sponsor inserts.
I actually prefer 60 second sponsors in regular videos hehe.. But Rocksmith+ is exception for me since I played it a ton as a kid (2014 version) and they let me do whatever really!
@@Mattiaskrantz Normal sponsor inclusions are good aswell. There is just this one kind of Sponsorship that i absolutely despise. When the host tells me that "This portion of the video is sponsored". Its absolute BS, its a video sponsor, otherwise upload the ad separately.
This is so incredibly epic! Awesome to see the progress on this. ZIP TIE CAPO
Some suggestions for you:
1) Put some stylish top to the guitar hiding the string ends and you could put extra weight so the guitar is balanced.
2) Modify the motor pedal so you can rotate to specific places: guitar, bass, fretless, single rotation, continuous rotation.
3) it’s possible to play notes with the “fretting” fingers so you could play the guitar section “normally” using your thumb to play the bass at the same time
The Gatling Gun Guitar looks pretty cool! sounds amazing too.
That's a great name!
Gatling guitar, surely has something to it. 🤔
@33482 Gatling Axe maybe?
You need a stepper motor instead of a normal motor for the turning of the neck.
Then add foot buttons that move the neck into specific positions.
Steppers also hold positions while powered, which would mean that you can control when the neck can spin freely and when it is "locked".
Plus having buttons to put the neck into specific positions and even have the neck to movement patterns.
do it.
Have to say even though I enjoyed all the piano projects this is by far your greatest invention yet. Honestly so excited to see more vids with it
Epic guitar playing! Cool instrument ❤
It says something that I'm willing to watch a pure advertisement just to get a little more rotating guitar action. But hey, a man's gotta eat. And I can't get enough of this guitar. Can't wait to hear it played by someone who's good at it! Your skill is in the making, now we need to see the skill in the playing...
honestly this ad is cool! i wish i had a guitar to play and use it with. definitely something i will keep in the back of my mind. Cant wait to see what other people think of the spinning guitar when they see it in person and try to play it
Bro this has so much potential.
You should sell this design to a manufacturer or something , i would love to have one of these
I'd love to see "the dooo" playing this guitar
Mattias took playing bass and guitar to a whole different level and is better than me when I play on a normal bass or guitar.
Youre a gem im so glad i found. All your videos are so great and i love seeing what wild things you come up with! Can't wait to see some other people play this guitar, and more importantly, what else you create!
On your world tour you should see if you can get a piece written specifically for this guitar, since usually it is written for two different instruments, it doesn't take full advantage! Would be cool! If you haven't already gone!
Mattias, mad props for creating such an instrument, and learning to play both bass and guitar for it. Thanks for the videos and updates on it. Still tho, knowing absolutely nothing about how it would affect the sound, balance or playability, plz consider adding a guard on the back end. To prevent the thumbs and palms, or even an unlucky shirt caught in it, of the musician playing it from becoming shredded cheese.
If you are using a stepper motor you can program the guitar to go to a specific position so you can reliably spin a fixed distance or create settings to quick change to different section like bass and back to guitar. If you want to get really crazy you can program song presets to spin the guitar the way you need it to depending on when you want it to switch to other sections or have it spin at certain points for no reason for cool points.
no wonder I was feeling so happy today, I felt the new post in my bones 😂
I have been using various versions of Rocksmith for years and it's pretty great. I don't use it so much to learn, but just to play a really wide variety of different styles of music as a way to practice. The current version of Rocksmith with the subscription model is neat, but for the first year or so I found that there was a pretty limited selection of songs that I actually wanted to play as a bassist. I meant to cancel the subscription after the first year, but forgot because I hadn't used it for months, and then Ubisoft charged me another full year without warning. I tried every way I could to dispute the charge but Ubisoft refused to refund or cancel my subscription.
Since I'm stuck with it for another year, I'm glad there to see there is actually some decent new music. Last time I had played there wasn't any Green Day, Paramore, Metallica, Van Halen etc. I will have to see what is actually available for bass. The original launch version was much more focused on guitar than bass, and even though there were technically thousands of songs available, only a portion of them had playable bass transcriptions. If there really is more decent content now, maybe I will keep the subscription in the future.
I would like to see what someone with a classical guitar background could do with that, maybe they have a better understanding on what to do with the bass section.
I might have a guy actually.. But I think he plays more jazz on a classical guitar or something!
@@Mattiaskrantz a jazz player seems great for this they are usually great at improvising random stuff and it always sounds good :D
well Tina S is back in the business again.... ;)
This is incredible. I'm excited to follow your progress. I see the pedal control and the amp as the next two big parts of your puzzle. The pedal could be multi function controlling speed, direction, acceleration, deceleration, and preset stops. Another commenter mentioned a servo motor which sounds appropriate. It could produce superhuman tremolo and vibrato, and make those spins to another position much safer and reproducible. Bass amplifiers and speakers deal with lower frequency more efficiently. You could use a crossover setup to filter and bi-amp the output to separate speaker cabinets to achieve the full sound. Or build a hybrid.
One last thing is a noise gate or some way to silence the unwanted sound from pickups you aren't using (back, top, bottom). Though leaving it could open the door to a thumb rest bass lines and alternate tuning. At least when overdriving the signal, a noise gate would be huge, since you can't use your right palm to mute the other strings on a cylindrical guitar neck.
I think a neck brace on this would actually help it greatly with regards to the balance issues. It'd take off some pressure in trying to stabilize it as well, leading to more speed and precision.
It might actually be playable with one lmao. Can't wait to see how others fair at it.
It is certainly an interesting idea, maybe beyond us puny humans.
A larger vertical-standing version could maybe be interesting as well, but that'd be like Harp on hard-mode lol
Every video is great and better than the last keep up the great work 💪
As a mechanic who likes old school rock and roll. This is cool as hell dude. Great work!!
I'd add a mechanical "click" mechanism to the axle, bi-directional, similar to the bezel on a dive watch, but with adjustable tension, and made from soft plastic so the clicks aren't too audible. Shouldn't be too hard.
You can never disappoint me Mattias youre a genius.
good luck and good job, mattias! the 360 degrees guitar is very promising!
I second the stepper motor suggestion, I think you could get a lot of utility out of rotating it a certain amount
I insist, I think Jacob Collier must know this guitar. The day he finds out about its existence he will want to use it in one of his concerts.
P.S. Excellent video! I discovered your channel recently and I have watched almost all the videos hahaha, very good content.🎉
YOU HAVE TO DO THIS! Servo motor, foot pedal control....
You can control speed of spin
You can control POSITION of neck (so have a button for standard guitar, button to spin to bass position, etc.)
You can have a tremolo button to move the neck back and forth
You can have bend button/vibrato/etc
YOU HAVE TO
I feel like that app would turn every darksouls player into a guitarist
5:36 “ah, I see! It continuously monitors how bad I play”
Whoa! Just like my anxiety 😂😂😓😭😭😭
A sponsor tie in that isn't a stretch, well played
Rocksmith is legit the best thing that ever happened to me as a musician. My timing and accuracy SUCKED when I was originally starting, but I play7ed for like 3 or 4 hours a day for about 6 months, and I went from barely being able to play the Ramones to being able to play Cannibal Corpse easily. I did develop a weird playing style from it, though. I once sat down with a prog player (who actually went to a cannibal corpse gig with me once.) and he was like "How the fuck do you play that??" and my answer was I don't fucking know. How do you play?"
the potential of having someone practice and eventually master this thing is beyond words
You should play “the city must survive” on that gatling guitar
Still feel like the guitar needs some extra tools to actually bring merit. Like some way to spin a certain distance quick and accurately to effectively increase the range of notes you can play etc.
Working on it! Completely agree.
This guitar gives rock and "roll" a whole new meaning.
this thing sounds heavenly
With all due respect: I cannot _wait_ to see this beast in the hands of a serious guitar player!
Can you imagine Slash playing your guitar at a concert?
Well done creating this new guitar invention.
@3:55 - "I've heard that Bass is pretty easy."
All Bass players: *cracking knuckles*
Get that bag my guy. Thanks Rocksmith.
Man - this guitar is so amazing!
Mattias is the kind of guy to practice something 200 times and wonder how he became so good!! 😂😂😂 Your creativity is inspiring bro!!!
Yes! I'm excited to watch this one!
Big fan of your vids mannnn it's been a while
You could try indexing certain positions with small/weak magnets. Would help positioning the neck while still allowing to spinn freely, if given enough speed.
To help combat the spinning you could create gears that rotate a flywheel. It will resist rotation while you want it still and aid when you want it to rotate
He's so genuinely happy about the library being so big he had to mention it four times.
You should try an open tuning like Open D or Open G. It may allow you to explore more the instrument in a different way, like a dobro. Also, what about using a slide? Perhaps something like a rounded slide? Idk... To me, this shouldn´t be treated as a guitar or a bass since it can spin. What about something that can press all the strings at the same time while it´s spinning, and you could also move it to higher or lower frets without having to stop the spinning motion but also keeping the strings pressed
Another version with eliptical or compound radius fretboards may be more ergonomic to play and still be able to flip around the rotating axis
Great day when Mattias uploads
Perhaps a bar parallel to the guitar neck on the back for your hand to rest on instead of the strings, yet allows enough access to still spin the neck?
this was actually a design we worked on! Might still finish that version in the future. But we would need to reduce the neck diameter since otherwise it will be hard to reach around comfortably
For the rotation function, since you’re using a motor, I’d recommend adding a rotary encoder with a gear system and a PLD controller to offer better control of the motorized rotation. It would also let you make presets for string positions
This looks fun AF
Sorry if you had mentioned this in your previous videos (it’s been a lengthy process since you started this spinning guitar!), but would it benefit to have a brake for the spinning neck that you can hold down with your right wrist while playing? You seem to have pretty good control of it now, but it may give your left thumb a break from having to stabilize the neck and accurately hold the frets (or maybe do an easier vibrato).
Great stuff!
It might help if you added a smooth spine running parallel to the strings to give your palm a place to rest on that the strings wont cut into, then you can use your fingers to rotate the fret board. Might need to remove a few strings and make the fretboard smaller to do that tho.
What everyone who plays at least thought or tried to do,.......
This guy created it... And it works.. Keep it up!
lmao at All By Myself by Green Day being one of the songs in the catalog
You can set up a template project in a DAW with drums, bass and guitar samplers, and convert any gtp to midi. Many drums libraries even support gtp drums scheme so you don't need to make drastic adjustments. You almost instantly have a backing track for basically any song you can find tabs for, not just the ones Ubisoft decided you can play with. Of course you need to know how to work with DAW, but you would definitely need to learn it anyways if you want to become a decent modern electric guitarist (ones who fully into 80's way of monitoring, practicing and recording are probably reject Rocksmith too).
Here is an idea. Use some coloured strings for orientation.
that was a really good sponsor for this video haha! It actually gave us more good content lol
I love this guitar
I’m so happy to see you with so many more subs.
You should've add a motor and make it spin so that the guitar side faces the front on a press of a button, same for the bass side.
the more I look to your 360° neck guitare and the more it make me want to try it. Just a question : have you consider putting a second neck behind the rotating one so your thumb can avoid getting hurt ?
You should honestly patent this design and try to get some manufacturing going for it cos damn its cool
Honestly, it’s a neat idea, and I really think your proof of concept works. It just needs a slight redesign to make it more comfortable to play.
Some a kind of sliding handle for the neck, that you would wrestle your palm on, with some twist movement as well as up and down the neck. It should only really be wide enough hot the heel of your palm but sit comfortably right in the crook of it. Giving you a more flexible grip but also greater control of the position of your hand.
then a kinda dimmer switch style controller for the rotation motor. It would be operated by thumb and should sit Parallel to the neck, have it spring-loaded to be centered by default, which would be ‘stopped’. The more you push it one way of the other controls how fast it rotates. Giving you far easier control of the position of the cords.
“My difficulty is 7 now I started at 80!” Lolll
This is so innovative
You should make a head and a strap for the guitar, the head just to make it look cooler and a strap could actually help you play it better, since you wont have to hold it down all the time.
THIS IS CRAZY COOL!
suggestion: SEND THIS GUITAR to MARCIN AND SEE WHAT HE CAN DO WITH IT, THINK THAT WOULD BE A VERY COOL VIDEO
you should take this idea and turn it into a hurdy gurdy guitar
I think this is the fist video, that is actually made better by being an ad :D
Maybe it's just the combination of an actually cool product and a fitting "influencer"
That is one of the coolest instruments I’ve ever seen.
This video deserves so many more views.
I like how you come up with your own playing techniques for this guitar lol
Yes! more 360!
Would love to see what Tosin Abasi or Devin Townsend could do with your guitar 🎸 🎉
I think getting thedooo to play it would be sick, but I feel like it’d be difficult
“I’ve heard that bass is very easy”
Charles Berthoud: *cracks knuckles* 😂
Honestly I’m so impressed by this instrument, and Charles Berthoud created some beautiful music with it.