The Truth About David Lee Roth And Eddie Van Halen's Relationship
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Like Lennon and McCartney or Simon and Garfunkel, the difficult relationship between Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth led to some incredible music. The difference between the two was essentially that Van Halen wanted to make rock music, while Roth wanted to be a rock star. Roth was the quintessential rock and roll front man, but his relationship with the band finally hit its breaking point in the mid-1980s, and he quit. From the early formation of the band to their various reunions over the years, let’s take a look at the truth about David Lee Roth and Eddie Van Halen’s relationship.
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RIP, Eddie.
I think Eddie and Dave had kind of a brotherly love going on because it was pretty much a sibling rivalry.
Eddie could possibly been saved had he been treated with Vitamin B17 AKA Leatrile. But B17 is illegal in the states because it works, it kills cancer.
Read World Without Cancer, the Story of Vitamin B17, G.Edward Griffin 1974
I love their music
Calvin Cooley B17 is a hoax. FU
@@CaseAgainstFaith1 please explain.
At their last show at the Hollywood Bowl, Roth went over to Eddie, put his arm around him and they spoke to each other off mic. Roth then said, "The best years of my life; the high points of all my life - onstage with you, homeboy. You too, Al."
It seemed very genuine and I hope they were on good terms when Eddie departed this life.
I'm sure they were on good terms. Roth, for all his foibles, probably knew that Eddie was in a tremendous battle and like a true professional, didn't make that issue public and was understanding. Same thing with Sammy and Mike
How do you know this?
They ended just fine together. Age gives you wisdom. Plus no one had anything to prove to anybody by then.
Im sure Al and Dave have spoken since Eds passing. Im sure it went something like Al you do know i loved your brother and you like family. Not all familys get along with each other but the love is still there my friend.
@@ronyantz7349 Yeah. Im going to assume that Dave is classy when it comes to situations like this.
WE NEED A VAN HALEN MOVIE LIKE THE DIRT
But with real actors.
Absolutely....
No, we don't.
@@Vivalarosa45 Yes, we do.
Absolutely NOT
DLR never acted like he was twenty OR sixty. He acted like DLR
Right on
Yes! Thank You! Can I have another?! 🥳
Absolutely correct
PREACH !
Roth got away with acting like he did because he was in a band with the greatest guitarist on the planet at that time ! Imagine DLR being the way he was in a band of average musicians who wrote mediocre songs ! He would have been laughed at by the world !
I feel privileged to have seen Van Halen perform in their prime, they were amazing . Eddie Van Halen's guitar playing was awe inspiring, he worked his magic and Roth worked the crowd !
My first concert 1980 invasion tour Changed my life
I think the problem between Roth and Van Halen was that their connection was so great that it kind of caused a sibling rivalry between them. Their chemistry always seemed like to be that of brothers who couldn't stand each other but also loved one another unconditionally. Between them they had a magic that is rarely found.
Uhhh, no. Maybe over time and at the end there was a mutual respect. But love? No. Eddie loved Sammy. Eddie loved Gary. Eddie loved his son. Dave? Never.
Right on!! My dad has or had 4 brothers. Including a twin. Brothers fight.....And you better let em!!!
@Homie Toast I take it you've never had brothers because that is brothers all over.
@@donnswaby369 Eddie's "love" of Sammy (which was mainly evident during the time of 5150, and was already showing signs of fading by OU812) is more of what I would categorize as an emotional reaction to a new musical partner who wasn't named Dave. His affection for and praise of Sammy, as much as anything else, was an expression of the freedom Ed felt because he no longer had to answer to Dave. If they had gone with a different singer, like Patty Smyth or Daryl Hall, it probably would have been a similar story. Ed's affection for Sammy was likely further fueled when it became clear that the band would continue to be successful with Sammy taking over as front man (something there'd been real doubt about at the time). Aside from his actual family (Al, Wolf, etc.), and Val perhaps, Eddie seemed like the type of guy who developed a huge amount affection for people early in relationships but, over time, would start to find fault, mistrust, resent, or just grow bored with them. Case in point: with Gary, early on, Ed was calling him his soulmate and stuff life that; but a year and a half later, Gary was out and, by Gary's own account, Eddie never contacted him again. If you want to call that a kind of love, I guess you can; but it certainly wasn't a lasting one.
No offense, but that’s a ridiculous thing to say because there were *actual* brothers in the band who had their own “sibling rivalry” yet operated and cooperated in a completely functional manner for 40+ years … stop trying to make “fetch” happen. 😂
After reading a couple VH books I found out that Roth was the biggest reason for them signing a record deal. He had the vision and took Eddie and Alex from flannel shirts and jeans to flash and stage presence. And Roth was the principle lyricist!
The band should have been called vanROTH
YES. Too many try to disparage Roth's significant contributions!
@@emmabauer1906 - not me. Roth was a major player but so was Eddie. Their personalities were oil and water. Their music was rock and roll poetry
Roth made them RICH!
But, Alex and Eddie were fine with flannel shirts!! That’s the thing, they never wanted to be HUGE in the industry they just wanted to play music
They would have never made it, WITHOUT EACH OTHER...RIP EDDIE...
Agreed!!!👍🏼
wrong-o. dlr had the power to drive this band into the attention of everyone, any ol' guitar would do
Everyone seems to forget that Roth wrote his lyrics and melodies. They always say Eddie was the songwriter and dismiss Dave as the showman.
David Lee Roth is very smart...great song writer and showman. It just wasnt so good with Sammy Hagar...Some good tunes, but no stage prescence with Sammy, I felt...
I thought he wrote the lyrics to Eddie's music.
Yeah ,Sam was boring on the Live Without a Net show
Every rockband that stays long enough together will eventually have issues concerning clashing ego's, differences towards musical direction, substance abuse, women etc..........
Absolutely! It can’t be avoided. That The Rolling Stones are still hanging in there is a miracle.
But then there’s RUSH. Best of friends forever...
once they all have large bank accounts things change quickly, it seems. $$ changes everything
Not Rush. But they were special that way.
Rush opened up for all your 70s fave bands - Aerosmith , Kiss , on and on . The three Rush guys were serious about getting better at their instruments and they were in it for the music .
They saw first hand in those early days the booze , drugs and being detached from reality and how that effects individuals and bands .
So I think they likely partied some but held it in check and fortunately didn’t go off the edge .
Rest in Peace Mr. Edward Van Halen🙏 He was a musical genius & a true artist!!! Amazing watching him play!!
I love DLR he is truly talented and one of the best front men of all time....in my honest opinion they were like brothers who were too competitive. In the end he made his peace with all the talents in his band. They are Icons and rock gods...let's honor them. Rest In Rock Eddie...we will never forget you.
Well said!!👏
I'm still in shock. I hadn't heard one of their tunes (other than when I turned on the radio which is rarely) in years. But - their music must have been in my DNA because when Eddie died I went on a binge listening jag...
Despite the animosity between them, and vastly different personalities, I think deep down, they recognized that VH wouldn't have as great, or famous, without both of them. Call it synergy I guess. EVH....missing you badly man.
I think Eddie was jealous of Dave's openness, extroversion, looks, and charisma. It's that simple. Jealously shows itself in all the little ways Eddie displayed; it's a suppressed emotion and dissembled emotion.
You said that Eddie was the songwriter, but failed to mention Roth was the lyricist in the original incarnation. They both wrote the songs, we will miss Dave when he’s gone too. RIP King Edward.
A great song without great lyrics is a 1/2 a song. Both are equal 50/50 in my opinion. So they both deserve equal credit.
@@toddlavigne6441 - great lyrics are kinda overrated. I want a cool riff with a cool groove and a cool hook and chorus. Plenty of great songs with cheesy lyrics
Did those songs have lyrics?
@@toddlavigne6441 I'd say they were 51/50 with Eddie being the 51.
@Dan Schulte, yeah, for every occasion pretty much, And she made the mountains sing
Birds against an icy sky
And I heard bells ringing
I think I heard an Angel sigh
She said, there'll be times
There will be times
You're gonna hear the angels singing
You're gonna hear the angels sing, they'll say
Ah, ah, ah, ah ~
Thanks David
Having seen Van Halen many times live, every tour from the 1980 invasion, including 11th row in Oakland (the 1981 videos) the US Festival, and the first tour with Sammy. Van Halen was Eddie and Dave. I ask all VH fans one question, why is it that every album with Dave there's not a bad song? There's no other band's catalog I can listen to every song from every album and enjoy except DLR Van Halen Albums. Roth's lyric and melody had heavy influence on most songs i'm sure. Dave and Eddie needed each other to achieve what America's greatest band of all time did. Both have admitted friction between them helped in writing the finished product. Regardless if they liked each other or not, Thank You both for all the wonderful shows and songs!!! The best guitarist on all time is a very subjective opinion, but in my mind nobody comes close to Edward, the music and sounds from his fingers and guitar were epic!!!! RIP Edward!!!
Stuart, That was Perfect !
Every song from every album being stellar…. Try… Pink Floyd, NIN, Chevelle, TOOL, Deftones; there are many breathtaking bands out there that just hit every single song they make out of the park.
David Lee Roth was and is a nut we all Love and I hope he never changes. Eddie was a awesome guitar player, with a smile that could make a bad day seem not so bad, it was just magic and we were here to witness it!!! God Bless VH for ever and ever!!!
It was so out there, it was him being Himself - surprised social media does not state that obvious enough (Im sure most VH fans know). Ed should had not worried.
The best all around guitar player. Solo, riffs, rhythm, song writing, and soul.
Eddie Van Halen will always be in his 20s when I think of him. Talent with a smile.
I'd like to think they really loved each other, in spite of their fights. Why would David Lee Roth call it "a long great trip" otherwise? In addition, I don't think Eddie would've let Diamond Dave back in if he didn't care about him.
RIP, Eddie, and thanks for all the musical memories.
Eddie and Dave did so many awesome things and they didn't need to be with each other to produce ground breaking results. They had ups and downs like anyone else, but WoW! They had great times and let us share those times with them. RIP Eddie Van Halen.
David Lee Roth. Regardless of your differences with Eddie, you both had a synergistic relationship. And profited greatly. It's like a sports team. You don't have love each other too win a championship. You guys were badasses! Be thankful you had this opportunity. You may be singing in bars right now without Eddie. Much respect bro..
It don’t matter to me if they ever got along or not,
Im just grateful for the timeless music that they made together and the great onstage moments and videos they gave their fans
I love Van Halen. I just wish DLR would’ve never left and we would’ve gotten a lot more great music. Though with Sammy, they also made great music. Just not quite as good in my humble opinion. I hope at the end they all were on good terms. RIP Eddie
We are not so different, you and I.
Gary Cherone sounded quite a bit like Sammy. Like a poor man's Sammy.
Roth never should've left but Ed wanted to play keyboards and be seen as a pop composer. That's where it all fell apart in my opinion. When you're the top guitar guy and you want to play keyboard instead, that's not doable.
Alex was the wedge, he wanted more control of everything. He got rid of Roth, Ted Templeman, the road agent, and eventually Sammy and Michael.
Listen to Dave for 10 minutes and tell me he wouldn’t drive anyone crazy
'Dave TV'
Crazy from the heat man.
At least they went out with a good album. I'd hate to even imagine if Van Halen III had been their last.
Eddie wanted to do more keyboards, which was the opposite of what Dave wanted. And Dave wanted to try his hand at going solo for the fame and the money. The two made it personal for far too long, but it really was two guys in a band that wanted to go in different directions. It happens.
I could see the rub with Eddies wanting to be more of a respected songwriter, verses Roth’s wanting to commercialize and candy coat everything. Ultimately it was the compromise of direction that gave them the greatest success. Compromise is really tough in any relationship, especially highly creative ones
Again , composer not songwriter
Being a fan of EVH, it pains me a bit to agree that DLR was an essential element to the band. That pulling/pushing friction is not all that uncommon between great talents. We saw it with Lennon and McCartney.
You don't have to say it. Their only #1 was "Jump" and watching that video again, if you dare, says it all. Roth was the charmer of the band, the fascinator who took them to their highest heights.
@@DexterHaven Yup!
They needed each other and we all got great music from them. RIP Ed.
They were like brothers though. Both had different ideas on how the world works but still coming together to make an amazing team. Eddie wanted a t-shirt and jeans. Dave wanted glitsy spandex and lady leg warmers boots. Eddie wanted Colt 45,Dave wanted Jack Daniels. Eddie wanted guitars and keys,Dave wanted a few remakes for Diver Down. Eddie wanted a private life while devoting himself to 5150,Dave wanted abit of Hollywood and Daaaaave TV! In the end both their ideas melded into some godam amazing music. That friction they had always came out in what they did musically,it was great. It just wouldn't be VanHalen without either of these two,and you can speculate this and that but who cares. The music does the talking,thats what matters. RIP Eddie. Totally gonna miss you.
Ironic that DLR was the one with more varied musical interests, at first, but later was the one who thought VH was getting too far way from their roots in guitar-driven hard-rock.
David Lee Roth and Eddie would have been successful on their own without ever working together.... but together they were much bigger than they could have ever been on their own.
best comment ever on this topic
Davids podcasts over the last few years showed some interesting facts including when he was in Japan he was talking to Alex nearly every day. He also mentioned when he was doing the Vegas concerts he had been talking to the brothers and had they had given him the OK and was using Van Halen gear and crew. “I don’t know that Eddie is ever really going to rally for the rigors of the road again. I don’t even want to say I’ve waited - I’ve supported for five years. Because what I do is physical as well as musical and spiritual - you can’t take five years off from the ring. But I did. And I do not regret a second of it. He’s a band mate. We had a colleague down. And he’s down now for enough time that I don’t know that he’s going to be coming back out on the road. You want to hear the classics? You’re talking to him."
The whole is greater than the sum of the parts. So DLR was into dance music and the other 3 into heavy music. Together, they created something special, different and exciting!
I believe that it’s obvious that Eddie, who knew that his days were numbered, enlisted his son into the band so that his son would have more fond memories of him and to further bond with him. The same goes for David Lee, I believe that he wanted to give him fond memories as well as for the fans of Van Halen. If I were in his shoes, I would have done the same. Eddie, a positive man, left this world on a positive note. Bless you Eddie.
They were Awesome!! One of my 1st concerts!!It was at the cow palace!! DLR blew me a kiss at the end of, “Beautiful girls!!” Made my Day!!! They were & will always beAwesome!! (I was on my boyfriends shoulders almost the entire concert!! - poor guy!) AWESOME memories!!! VH plays on forever!!!Thanks guys!!!!
The first song on my mp3 player was a Van Halen song
RIP Eddie \m/
There is no question of Eddies greatness, but Roth wrote the lyrics to go with Eddies amazing guitar playing. The Roth area albums are simply the greatest hands down. I believe Roth said in an interview once, that if their wasn't tension between him and Eddie from the beginning you would have gotten a different VH.
if eddie didn't write lyrics somebody had to or they technically not songs. DLR did an amazing job in his prime.
The tension made the magic, we always hope everyone we like gets along, not always the case, deep down they had a love and respect for each other to much commonality of experience to not have that..
Best duo in American music history
IMHO David Lee Roth was and still is the voice of the Band VanHalen. I don't listen other LP's thant the ones with the constellation Halen, Anthony, Roth.
Love that music so much because of the power it has. Finaly a Band is not made of only one good player, singer, but the whole package made the success.
🎼📢Ain't talkin' 'bout love
My love is ROTHEN to the core
Ain't talkin' 'bout love
Just like I told you before! Yeah, before! 🎼📢😎🎸
Best Van Halen song they ever made.
@@KevMac58 well one of the best, i love ' right now ' most ,because it hits the heart, i love performance of David better he's a clown but hagar wrote great songs too...i just love van hslen, Edward was dutch like me..lil proud of it though. 😎🔥🎸
Ha ha very cute pun there!
"Right Now" is probably the best Van Hagar song during that era; well written, excellent instrumentation and full of urgency.
@@seanc9507 absolutely 💯 %!
I watched an interview with Eddie an he made right now in 1982 an dreams around the same time. But David didn't want to sing it. Kinda cool knowing stuff like this
First concert my dad ever took me to. So glad we made that memory. Rest In Peace Dad.
It took Eddie long enough to realize how important Roth was!
I never bought a song of theirs after Roth left.
I never listened to any of their post-Roth music either.
Same !!!!
Roth made Van Halen get big. As much as I love Eddie, he needed Roth
Without Dave, Edward would have been a great guitar player - but quite possibly not well known outside of guitar fans.
His career would either have found him as a great guitar player in a short lived and little known band - or - as a great guitar player in a more or less solo route, such as say - Jeff Beck, Al DiMeola, etc...
The pairing of Ed and Dave was where the magic happened.
Eddie was a genius, but there are actually thousands of geniuses out there. Van Halen was the vehicle that put him in the spotlight. That synergy the two had only happens once in a lifetime, and they rode the wave to the max. Opposites attract. Like Steven Tyler and Joe perry. A very similar dynamic/tension that made them who they are.
AGREE!
I am a HUGE VH fan. DLR was a huge part my adolescence. I crushed on him for many years. I am ashamed and disappointed at how DLR has publicly handled EVH’s death. His tweet is cold and callous. His lack of sadness, remorse and honoring Eddie after his death has left me disgusted and embarrassed to have looked up at him all these years. His band mate died, regardless of musical differences in the past, it was time to honor Eddie which as far as I know he did NOT do. I’m disgusted by his behavior...
I guess if you're looking for negative, you'll find it. "What a long great trip it's been". Where is the negative? They had history for 45 yrs, and it was a great trip. Would you rather he have said untrue things that better fit the narrative? I think a simple line, and a picture of a fond memory is enough. Why does he have to write a paragraph to make you or anyone else happy?
@@Skulllywag what he wrote was from his head not his heart. I would expect upon his death that he would release a statement with a little more emotion in it.
@@brown_eyed_girl you're being ridiculous.
Alex Van Halen on the Drums, Wolfgang Van Halen on the Guitar, Michael Anthony on Bass, David Lee Roth on Vocals, Bring in Sammy on Guitar and Vocals too, Make new Music and Tour in Tribute to Eddie Van Halen, Time is Short lets Go!
Act like 60 why Dave is young at heart
ya think old...get old.
Dave Is Dave. He doesn't try to act Any age. What you see is what you get with DLR.
Chris Holmes of Wasp grew up with Eddie and i think he said it best here.....
"Ed, Al and Mike, they're good guys. Dave's just the way he is. I'm not knocking him as a person, just his personality. But they wouldn't have gotten half as big as they did without him in the band. They would have gone nowhere. Ed and Al would still be playing backyard parties in Pasadena if it wasn't for that guy."
Dave played a huge part in Van Halen's success.
Did he say “Van Halen scholar”? 🧐😂
*fan
It's a "thing," now.
last time i was this early, van halen still played in major radios
Yup.
David Lee Roth and Eddie Van Halen two great personalities. Musically, I can see two people wanting to be themselves. They did. Some of the conflict creative while it lasted. It’s sad to see Eddie Van Halen Go. David Lee Roth super confident attitude is part of him .It works for him. I have seen this type of conflict before . Sad when it happens but it does. Sad to see Eddie Van Halen go too
you forgot about dave's lyricism. he wrote the lyrics when he was in the band and that was one thing i found appealing along with his showmanship & deep gravelly voice. (which i have & had since i was 13.)
All I know is that there was magic when these two got together; lightening in a jar. ⚡
And, I believe they were better friends than most people will ever know.
Halen with Roth is good. Very memorable and amazing music they created and covered. Halen with Hagar was also good and it actually was more polished and rounded out. The original line up was down and dirty and Eddie played and blew the guitar world away. The second line up was older, wiser and refined and Hagar's voice fit just a good as Roth's and Eddie still played and still blew the guitar world away. Sure there are friend feuds. I have them with my friends all the time. I am sure that both Roth and Hagar had a ball with Eddie and they are lucky guys for having been so close to the greatest guitarist of our time. I can tell you one thing that is for sure. He (Eddie) had IMPACT. I have never seen youtube blown up this way. Every other video is Eddie and that is GREAT. He must be looking down and thinking WOW, they did love me. I for one will miss Eddie even though I never met him. Since my early teens he was part of my music life. Many a good memory was being had while Eddie played in the background. For that, I have to say THANK YOU, Eddie.
I love Van Halen with DLRoth as the voice and I loved Sammy the Red Rocker by himself n still have his 8 track with Montrose and loved his own albums with songs like 3 Lock Box or Can't drive 55 or Remember the Hero's ...etc. He was good.
But he n VH both lost something when joined!? And fans lost interest.
Unfortunately back then there was no Internet as we know today and search for an unknown singer who sounded just like DLR wasn't easy at all (sort of like Journey did in recent years after Steve Perry ... and succeeded).
I wished VH did the same. DLR has an awesome voice but I didn't like his acting n was taseless and wouldn't dhow up for band meetings etc..
I'll always miss Eddie :(
We lost Neil Peart of Rush on Jan. 6th n lost EVH on Oct. 6th. Bad year for RnR. :-(
But Legends Never Die!
My favorite rock band ever. Who cares about relationships? It's all about the total performance package.
Regardless of the love and hate one can't exist without the other . Air and water 💦
actually air and air..aquarius and a libra
@@ms.p1502 well that explains that hot mess 😜😜 .still they created something with only air . Now think if they only had fire 🔥🔥🔥
@@12dick :)
I saw them in Charlotte opening night 2007 and I'm telling you Dave and Ed didn't move 10 feet from each other the whole night
Most people dont realize Van Halen was the result of a merger of 3 bands. Eddie and Alex, David Lee Roth and Micheal Anthony were all the frontmen for these bands. It was amazing it lasted as long as it did.
Also, every single one of the four brought something unique to the sound and style of Van Halen. Each was irreplaceable.
DLR always had larger than life personality. He is not a just a vocal he made Van Halen Rock Band into Van Halen Rock Stars.
If Sammy was the vocalist from the start, they would have achieved the same greatness. If Sammy started and Dave replaced Sammy, it would have flopped. Think about it. We were lucky to see both... two different styles of vocals.. but it only would have worked in one direction. Look at DLR now singing vs Sammy singing.. when you can’t jump and be the showman... one has longevity the other doesn’t. We were lucky to witness both. If DLR was the main frontman.. we wouldn’t have had 20 yrs.... Look at him in Vegas. He doesn’t have pipes, never did. He had looks, jumps and enthusiasm that comes w youth. I was a huge fan of young VH. I wasn’t sure I’d like SH. But he did well, music changed. Their competition didn’t carry into the 90’s. The change they made gave them another decade for us to enjoy. David was great... but not for longevity.
@@jenmac3521 Not always about the pipes Roth is one of if not the greatest frontmen of all time if he's not in VH from the start they are just another band with a kick ass guitarist. I saw them with Sammy before I saw them with Dave man what a letdown.
It was the right combination, at the right time, and it worked. Regardless of their personality differences, they held it together for years and 6 albums, while practically living with each other while recording and touring - there are few relationships that would be able to hold up through that, and for as long.
When you are in a band it is all about the love of music. When the vultures are able to pull your band apart it's all about the creative differences. Trust me, being inside the bubble is so much better than allowing the cynical reality of the outside world to fill your heart full of hate towards one another.
Eddie was a professional! Everybody loved him! 🐤
Even if there is a movie about EVH's life, it will miss the most important things . THE FANS.
We don't need fake players and interpretations.. Let's show the world from the Fan's point of view from guitars-amps-pedals-fasion-style, etc. From great players to rank, beginners. The impact of this amazing musician. We know he partied and smoked like a chimney.. I know him as the inspiration, why I picked up the guitar and am a player to this day and builder. I am almost 53 and I have many influences and can play all types of music but I have never lost that VH touch. So please, please, please, don't make a Jimi Hendrix , type movie about EVH. Make a movie, he would truly be proud of, about how he changed the world as we know it. From his many contributions to music, his innovations , guitar and above talent, which inspired millions. I cried, the day my best texted me and told me, he was gone.. Well he may not be on this earth but he was def/ from another world. Always with me in my thoughts and fretboard.
RIP, Edward Van Halen.
I will never forget one of my first concerts VH I was on my boyfriends(Brett R.) shoulders almost the entire concert David Lee Roth pointed right at me at the end of Beautiful girls when there is that OMG blew me a kiss WOWZA!! I practically fell of his shoulders there is No comparing that to any of today’s concerts!!! What a great memory- up at the cow palace!!
Now Adays-bands-don’t even play any instruments!!! And the kids are all holding up their phones!!! What the hell? I would’ve seen it later- I’m very happy I lived in the era I did!!! What a time!!! What great memories!!!Thank you Van Halen!!
Rest In Peace Eddie!! Your music will play on forever!!! (& in our hearts!!! ;)80s!!
I wouldn't say there would be no more Van Halen anymore w/o Eddie, there is still the other half of Van Halen and quite honestly it would be nice to see the the half grow.With all the digital technics that Van Halen has access to with Eddies playing it can all be incorporated and used today, shit when we seen Turpac in Virtuero it was amazing , i wouldn't go that far though with Eddie just yet though but his rifts and music the band can use cuts whatever, the idea is to create music not bring back Eddie but expand and grow and his son with the help of Alex can make it possible.When Sting handed the guitar to U2 , he didn't quit singing he was signifing a new chapter in music history , same can be said for Van Halen.Wolf Van Halen plays very well and he with Alex are amazing so my hope this is a new beginning for Van Halen to bring more music to this new generation.Kinda feel this is most likely what Eddie wouldn't wanted anyway, just my thought.
Roth can be arrogant,but man, he wrote the book on front men
LISTEN UP! I have been a die-hard Van Halen fan for almost 40 years. DO NOT believe the NONSENSE in this video. Saying that they worked with David Lee Roth for 10 years ONLY because David Lee Roth came from money and had a PA system is COMPLETE NONSENSE. A GREAT MUSICIAN like Eddie Van Halen, who KNEW how to not only play fast, but write songs with big riffs and catchy hooks, play amazing nuanced rhythm guitar, write solos that were little songs within songs and not just ridiculous wank-off fests, is also absolutely and definitely musically knowledgeable and instinctive enough to KNOW and value David Lee Roth's cool rock and roll voice and stage performance and Michael Anthony's absolutely amazing background harmonizing vocals. Eddie and Alex had EVERY OPPORTUNITY when they were coming into MONEY, and getting interest from Warner Brothers, to dump David Lee Roth and hire Sammy Hagar or another singer.
THEY FREELY CHOSE NOT TO!!!
THEY KNEW THE CHEMISTRY WAS THERE WITH DLR AND MA!!!
STOP THE NONSENSE THAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT THE STUPID PA SYSTEM!!!
Van Halen managed themselves and consciously and intentionally created their image and stories all along the way that were complete bullshit, but they thought played well in the media. These hack websites don't know what they're talking about and you should NOT listen to them.
BTW, Eddie and Alex fought all the time, even after DLR left the band. Screaming. Physical fights. What does that tell you? Do you think they were perhaps rather chaotic people that fought all the time with a lot of people? You think they didn't also love each other?
I missed seeing Van Halen and Journey when they did shows together in 1978/1979 selling out arenas. The youth group at my church went but Mom's wouldn't let me go because I was 10. I was totally bummed about it (even to this day LOL). I made up for it by seeing Van Halen on their 5150 tour and then seeing David Lee Roth on his tour with Cinderella as the opening act. Both concerts were great. I'm going to really miss all of that. Sure wish I could have seen VH and Journey on the same tour...
There are always tensions and arguments within most bands😶
R.i.p. Eddie.....nobody comes close......nobody comes close to close
I'm somewhat of an introvert. I could never, in the long term, get along with a total extrovert like DLR. But I'd pay thousands to see that band again in their prime.
Saw them in Bonner Springs, KS july 2015.... they still put on a great show.
i read one time Dave said Edward isnt happy unless hes unhappy
Eddie and Dave made Van Halen, Alex and Mike were great, too. Miss Eddie Van Halen.
They were both creative, brilliant musicians. Smart folks can have creative differences. RIP Eddie. VH music is great.
You know even though there’s some correct information they’re presented it is an over simplified version of Van Halen it is anecdotal and incomplete therefore I think in my humble opinion that it gives a over simplified version and casts a bad light on their relationship. Van Halen was a group effort and Eddie Van Halen was not only an incredible guitar player but an incredible backing vocalist along with Michael Anthony they all Played a part in writing and singing the songs they certainly may have been interested in Roth because he had a PA system but make no mistake he wouldn’t have been there for more than a week if he wasn’t who he was which was simply one of the greatest frontmen of all time to say anything less is nonsense everybody knows that there’s just too many things to discuss here Correct sorry to say this is just a bunch of facts that are skewed in one way to perhaps put this together some things were negative With the band of course every band is that way but so many things were positive Incredible otherwise Van Halen wouldn’t of been the incredible band they were Look at the history of any band that was great and you know that there was a lot of negatives no kidding that’s no surprise that’s what makes the magic the doors Aerosmith Led Zeppelin etc. etc. etc.
I believe it's time to let Eddie rest in peace now and I'm sure the Band would have still been together to this day if David Lee Roth would have tried to sing the songs like the recorded albums instead of addicted to his theatrics, to stay true to the lyrics and the brand.
Couldn't disagree more!.
Together they arrived to the peak,
And together they destroyed the greatest rock n roll band.
The magic alchemy now is finished for ever.
Rip Eddie
Eddie brought the music, Dave brought the lyrics.
Dave is so much smarter than anyone, and always spoke so highly of Eddie’s talents
I truly believe that had David Lee Roth taken it a bit more serious........they would have been better. Not the original recordings, but the overall quality and health of the band.
Obviously it’s a complicated relationship. But both would have been nothing without the other. Van Halen forever
And they know it and so does everyone else.
I guess Dave might see himself being famous no matter what, but who knows
wasn't a big fan of DLR(I did like the music with vh thou) as a kid on the 80s....it wasn't until I played a show w a van halen tribute, that I realized that DLR brought (more) style to the mix....but there will never be another EVH!!! that guy was an innovator!!! he shaped what rock n roll would become.....HUGE loss......rip EVH....
(also....Alex Van Halen was also a beast of a drummer!!!!)
To strong egos, one legendary band!
I'm a DLR fan and an EVH fan second. Eddie was very difficult to get along with. Hagar found that out, as did Michael Anthony who was pushed out so they could include Wolfgang. That would be like the Beatles kicked out McCartney to include Julian. But that said, they made a lot of great music but couldn't get along despite all the changes. And the one constant was Eddie, and Alex but Alex didn't seem to ever cause any controversy.
i'm on team Dave all the way !!
I'm so happy Sammy and Eddie made up. That it took Eddie 16 years to let go of whatever hurt he felt Sammy had done to him proves this: the bigger the love, the bigger the sense of betrayal and disappointment. Eddie and Sammy were musical soul mates and best friends (Dave NEVER had that relationship with Eddie. Ever. Because of Roth, Eddie wanted to quit the band and join Kiss) who'd co-created some of the best music of their careers in the span of those ten years (1986 -1996 and I am saying this as a VH who has happily supported all incarnations of the band), with Eddie's songwriting abilities at their absolute peak. You could feel the love and comradery on stage, like the band was a family. The perpetual smile on Eddie's face said it all.
I love DLR... He’s his own man. Funny as hell.
There is no Van Halen without Eddie, I maybe wrong but as a touring band I strongly believe that Van Halen is done, Rock In Peace Eddie
I saw DLR open for KISS right at the beginning of the Scamdemic at the Oakland Coliseum. Eddie’s health was on everyone’s mind at the show.
Dave had like three guitarists or something, on this tour, like he was hoping Eddie would come out and play one last time.
Then during his set it seemed like he got word that Eddie would never play again. You could see in his demeanor that it was all over.
I thought of the video “So this is love?” on MTV. And the footage from Oakland in 81’.
The quote of DLR's about "what a long great trip its been" was put in a little more negative of a light than it should have been by you guys. We get it. You do not like David Lee Roth. But it is not about you. He said a good thing about Eddie. It wasn't always an easy relationship, but it was productive. And most importantly, the fans loved it, so your opinion is not relevant in that light.
I didn't see it as being negative toward Roth
Dave is an entertainer and the VH’s are musicians.
more good than bad - much more. great history together & traveling the world - they were like family
Their conflict is just as historical as their music. Van Halen is the soundtrack of my childhood and when DLR went solo, he because the soundtrack of my teen years.
“I’m gonna abandon my spirit to them which is exactly what I attempt to do. You work yourself up into that state and you fall into the supplication of the demon gods.” - David Lee Roth (Rock, April 1984, page 30)
“I started playing guitar, drinking, and smoking at the age of twelve.” - Edward Van Halen
Where did Eddie get his inspirations for songs and the tones he came up with for them? Well, here is an excerpt from a January 1997 Guitar World interview Eddie connected. It was in an article titled UNCHAINED MELODIES by Steven Rosen. These are actual quotes by Eddie Van Halen given: “It’s a wicked feeling when a complete piece of music comes to you. But it’s not me, I’m just a vehicle and I really believe that.” “I ended up writing five songs that day including the music for Me Wise Magic. It blew my mind. I just didn’t want to believe I could do it without drinking.” “Then she had me do some yoga and meditation and some chanting. Next she had me close my eyes and imagine the room that you go to after you’ve had a six-pack of beer. Really try and feel that place. The therapist continued and said, Look you’ve been chosen to do this. All you are doing by drinking is blocking it. It’s a lot easier for them to send it when you are clear.
I wonder who “them” is…..Demons……..
Also, Valerie Bertenelli is wicked as well. Valerie is an icon of show business and why is that? Yes she is pretty and she seems to have done a great job raising her son Wolfgang Van Halen. But she has been known to attend the Kabbalah Center and she wears a red string on her wrist which signifies allegiance to the devil. Here is an excerpt from her book Losing It: And Gaining My Life Back One Pound At A Time by Valerie Bertinelli on pages 157-158: Thankfully, I was able to stay at home for my next project, Murder of Innocence. Although shot locally, it took me as far away from myself as I’d ever been. The character I played, Laurie Wade, was a newlywed whose childhood traumas trigger a series of psychotic breaks that lead her to shoot at schoolchildren. She then commits suicide. Though the project let me work with director Tom McLoughlin again, I didn’t for one minute like climbing into the skin of this woman. I had the feeling that the ghost of Laurie Wade didn’t like it either. One day Tom and I were walking down a tree-lined street in an residential neighborhood, going over a scene in which Laurie is in a manic state when suddenly we heard an ear-splitting squawk that I swear to God sounded like someone saying “Get off!” Both of us looked up and saw two giant ravens sailing toward each other, like two planes on a collision course. We didn’t see them hit, but suddenly one bird fell from the sky hitting tree branches on its way down and landing with a thud at my feet. I looked down and saw blood dripping from its mouth. I looked at Tom and said, “I don’t want to be this woman anymore.” As the weeks progressed I broke down into hives and rashes. They had dermatologists visit the set. Nothing worked. Something about that part got under my skin and triggered a reaction. That’s why I couldn’t wait for the movie to end. I wanted Laurie to leave me alone. Now, isn’t that sick? Hollywood is sick! Valerie married Eddie on 4/11/81. 111 days later MTV debuts. All the rock and roll people who loved Eddie and all the TV fans who loved Valerie “came together” on April 11th when they married. Just in time for MTV which debuted a few months later. Music and Television merges and Eddie and Valerie
Seek professional help.
If you never saw "Van Halen" live, it sucks to be you. RIP EVH
Rock & Roll started AS Dance music!
It ain't Van Halen without Roth
It ain't Van Halen without Eddie
Those two were like galaxies colliding. You witnessed something unique and not something that could be duplicated.