I think they could sell them for about 70% of their current pricing but all the time demand is so high for Harleys, (mainly in the U.S.) they will continue to take peoples money…
Harley Davidson Management, I know you will read the comments. This bike is priced too high. Awesome bike, but the price is just too much. Its a motorcycle, not a luxury automobile.
90%+ of the bikes sold in the west ARE luxury vehicles, not necessary transportation. They aren't selling this to 3rd world families where it's their only transportation.
This is a kickass ride. The wheel and tire combo just looks killer. I love the 70s style Harley logo, and that mat finish, just cool. I haven't seen one up close and personal,but I'm looking forward to it. Great review!
Great vid as usual Bob. As a once upon a time 1200 Sportster owner I think the Nightster looks good, and offers good tech, but at almost 20k USD, I can't see putting that money into that bike. Instead, can you say FTR1200?? Same tech with much better performance and a much better price point.
This is the Harley I waited two years for and when it arrived I passed on it. I was not impressed with what they were offering for $13,500 MSRP + surcharges +freight +dealer fees= priceless!! Now they put the tech on it and a pillion (which it should have had for the original price) and added $1500 to the price?? $15k for this bike in USA plus markups is too much for any sane person. Good luck selling this bike I guess? I actually wanted it and didn’t buy it.
Well said - meanwhile the Japanese bikes are much more appealing: Kawasaki Z900Rs and Cafe - 12k Yamaha XSR900 - 10K Triumph Speed Twin 1200 / Bonneville T120 and you typically get a lot more bang for your buck.
@@fivespeed3026 yes they’ve begun to outprice themselves now, particularly when the Indian and Vistory range is so much better value plus the Asian bikes are getting a lot beefier now as well for often almost half the price…
I don't understand this brand. Are they a "luxury" brand or an "outsider/rebel/non-conformist" brand ? Because "rebels" don't buy motorcycles in the 5 digits.
@@Beedji Non- conformist dentists, outlaw lawyers and rebel doctors are the economic groups targeted the public unwashed should enter through the back door. 😄😄 The difference between BMW and Harley marketing is the kind of dentists, lawyers and doctors they pander to.
@@Beedji The money is in the rich urban professionals pockets which started here in the early 1990s. People were not riders before with disposable incomes. Did Harley cater to them...yes. Did they BMW expand the sales on the GS by catering to pretend adventure tourers that tour mainly to the local Starbucks? How about Ducati selling 200+ horsepower $30,000 sport bikes to riders who get decked out in full leathers who take corners very slowly....posers? Harley hasn't cornered the market on posers maybe they were early adopters. There are plenty of riders riding all the brands and models who are NOT posers.
I own a 2022 Nighster, the 2023 S model the pluses are the risers and speedo display, and cruise control. The passenger seat and pegs too. The neg vs 2022 are airbox cover and the black wheels vs silver. I’ve updated everything from the seat to heavy breather intake and exhaust. As time passes you’ll find more updates to make your Nighster your own
The motor is cool but I’m not down with it’s the style and I don’t need all the electrical gizmos. Give me an early 1990s Evo Sportster style with that motor and less electronic stuff. The headlights they are using ,not my cup of tea either. I prefer the classic round headlights
Never had the chance to ride one of these newer Harley's, would be interested to see how they compare to the more traditional engined machines I have ridden. As for this bike, I think it looks quite nice (except for that hideous exhaust) but it does seem a bit pricey for what it is......beautifully made video as usual Rob, you are the man!
Thanks Andy! I’d swap the pipe straight away too, but agree the price point is a little high. Still, bikes like the Triumph Bobber and Indian Scout have gone up a bit recently too…
this is the thing thats shocked me so much with a few of the recent cruisers from harley & indian- reviewers go on about how gorgeous they are, but from the left hand side they're just a mess
Thank you for the video. I've owned three Harleys in the past and loved them. Sadly, of late, Harley seem to have lost the plot. Far too overpriced for ok bikes, compared to many other brands. They seem to have decided to ignore or deliberately exclude younger, newer and riders who don't want to spend crazy money to join the brand. IMO short-sighted, as they are pricing these newcomers out when there should be a way into Harleys so that they can then upgrade later as I did from an old Sportster to a Fatboy. This way in would encourage long term brand loyalty. Mind you the current Fatboy is over £20k so not an option for most. They need a more affordable, smaller bike such as, dare I say it, the Super Meteor. They could price it around £10k and folks would be happy to pay a premium for the badge compared to RE. Thanks again Peter
The tank is like a 'blank canvas' which in my opinion is wide open for say personalization with some pinstripes to match the color of the emblem. You know, make it my own style. I would extend the pinstripes to the fenders definitely and possibly some matching colors in spots on those rims.
I'm glad that I have no desire to own a cruiser. Shocks with preload adjustment only as something worthy to note? Remove the seat to fill the gas (after only what, 120 miles?)? ~$17K? For all our complaining, we sport-tourers have it pretty good in comparison.
I REALY LIKE IT, I DIDNT AT FIRST BUT ITS GROWN ON ME, THE NEW (SPECIAL)IS ALOT NICER THAN THE STANDARD! FOR THE PRICE YOU MAY AS WELL GET THE SPORTSTER S THO, WITH ONLY A FEW GRAND DIFFERENCE YOURE CRAZY NOT TO UPGRADE! THE SPORTSTER S IS DEFIANTLY ON MY BUCKET LIST !
Blue tooth , rider modes , bla bla bla just more tech junk to go wrong , engine, clutch, brakes , lights , wheels , a frame , a gas tank and a speedo that's all I needed when I rebuilt my first bike all most forty years ago , keep it simple .
Its a nice looking bike on one side but I wish they repeated the same look on the other side like the Indian scouts. And all that plastic just make it look cheap.
15k is expensive, but that’s actually a lot of bike. I was expecting some “premium new colors” in the special. I hope this means an optional nightster T coming up. Similar to the XL1200T, but with the power to back up the almost-softail weight.
HD has another overpriced monstrosity that will not generate any interest from the youth nor grownups!!! This model will produce same results that the HD STREET model and that model was discontinued!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I’d like to congratulate Harley for once again missing the mark. This bike, with the sportster S’s price and performance, is all the people wanted. You gave us an incredibly performing motorcycle that is too stylistic for everyone, then you gave us a more classically styled sportster with sub par performance and an outrageous price tag. What is it that this company does not understand? Keep the style we like, give us modern performance, stop over charging people for your brand. I was hoping these new bikes would be the first Harley’s I would actually buy off the floor, looks like I’m still gonna have to wait for the used market and realistic pricing.
Completely agree. $15,000 plus tax, title and license, dealer markups, delivery charges and other hidden fees plus extra for an optional colored fake fuel tank I think we are looking at close to $20,000. That is a very expensive entry level bike for a new rider.
I think its very marmite. They could have made it so much better but the tank and exhaust look like they were given to the junior designers. There are a lot nicer HDs out there.
I would have to agree that Harley should have done this on the original model. For all that plastic is 10k over budget most will just get a RE super mediocre. They just handed them the keys 🔑
Great short vid, exactly what I wanted, what do I get for that extra 1.5k? I'm looking to upgrade to a more commuter bike, is it fair to cross shop this with the T120?
I was wondering why you didn't show the other side of the bike. A right dogs dinner on the left.Even the right side is covered in cheap plastic fax par cylinder covers. same old, same old. Yawn.
Looks like Harley really did a nice job with this bike. I would be interested to see if it can be fitted with saddle bags to make it more commuter and light touring friendly and a backrest for increased passenger comfort.
Everything looks like cheap plastic, even the engine. No areas at the bike where I want to look at, every part ist looking like a kitchen machine. Boring design, far away of a real harley - 100% unsexy...
I really want to like this bike but the price just makes it an automatic no for me. It looks neat! But why would I get this over a Scout or Rebel 1100? Shit, at this price point, why not go with an FTR1200? Considering that the Harley purists also hate this bike, I might as well wait until these go cheap on the used market.
The changes improve the bike, but it will be interesting if the dealers can sell any more units. It has not been a sales success in my part of the world.
So much for The sportster being a relatively affordable entry level bike… hilarious for a company who is struggling to bring a new generation of riders on board… Harley needs to pull their head out of their ass
For many decades HD has been largely marketing towards those inclined to hubris; manufacturing motorcycle as fashion statement more than motorcycle as sport? It’s going to be interesting to see how these more refined products are received by, well - who knows who?
I have always enjoyed and appreciated your bike reviews. My concern is that you are getting too close to the manufacturers for objective reviews. The Nighster S is a hard pass compared to an MT, FTR, GSX, Monster, Ninja, Street Triple, V100, RNineT. It is ugly, overpriced and underperforming. I love the H-D 45 Degree V-Twin models and am ok with the PA. However, H-D outsourced the Nightster and Sportster S builds to 9th grade shop class.
Harley never releases the baddest version first. Give it a couple years and if they haven’t dropped the lineup entirely, they will have a 1250 CVO, ST, or something like that.
its alot more money than a used older 883/1200 sporty. i feel like u could get one of those for like 3 or 4 k. The nightser though will dust both of the older stock sporty's which r around 55 hp i think
Jayme, as a Engineer and Master Harley Tech, absolutely NOT. Unless of course you have a lot of money, and you love all the new electronic gadgets that these new bikes have. Don't listen to the know it all internet geniuses regarding horsepower comparisons. The original Sportster is about everyday riding, usable, and friendly - Torque. Horsepower is a CALCULATION derived from TORQUE. There's a REASON the Sportster remained basically unchanged for decades, and they sold every single one. Ask yourself, where's the V-Rod, or the Street 500 and 750? Gone, but the old school Sportster lasted for decades plus. Oh and the people complaining about only 1 disc brake in the front, again because they really don't have a clue and just want to impress their friends on the internet. I have 3 Harleys that I race regularly, none of them have double disc brakes up front, and Dyna's weigh a 100 pounds more !!! Good luck. 👍 T.S. RACING
I find it amazing that Harley keeps "creating" new models that are nothing more than hybrids of Sportsters, Dynas and Soft tails. This seems to be a mix between a Dyna and Sportster. Plus, they keep raising the prices and I would HIGHLY question reliability.
The only thing that bothers me is the unpainted fenders. For the kind of money they are asking I like the billiard blue but paint the dam fenders to match that “tank”. There’s no way the “tank” cost 375 to paint it.
350 quid for a "Premium" (single colour) paintjob on one part of the bodywork? No thanks. Those colour options looked cheap AF. The only bit that looked good was the instrument binnacle. Each to their own and all that.
Don’t think you addressed the elephant in the room; that awful exhaust. If I was to buy a Harley it would be an older sportster/ 48. So many new bikes have a real plastic cheap look. If I had £15k this would be the last bike on my list
Too much money for this sporty. Not to mention market adjustments…. Greedy HD dealerships, I won’t buy another bike from HD as long they keep their dealerships keep this price gouging, I encourage others to do the same.
They are not in touch with reality, they believe there own hype. Why they got rid of the Vrod, I'll never know. That motor was a jewel and could of been made into other models. Hey Harley, how the Electric bike selling.
They have done it AGAIN there is a brake disc missing from the front wheel what a real shame they keep doing this with thse heavy bikes appart from that a great looking bike my first mod would be that 2nd brake disc on the front wheel that should have been there before it left the HARLEY factory
300£ for a "premium" paintjob? Silly indeed! A laidback cruiser bike...with more buttons on the handlebar than in my car? No, I really don't get this bike. All those covers instead of making a nice looking bike. Always the right hand side towards the camera. No mr Bob, I don't like it! And for that price? No no! Thank you mr Bob!
Never got the cruiser thing when young. Now old and the body is weaker. The legs don't work as well I get it. In fact I bought a cruiser. But mine is a Honda. Some Harley's look pretty cool. Wouldn't say that one does. They all have one thing in common. Very expensive. Only ever ridden one Harley. A Fat Boy way back in 96. Hired it and rode up and down east coast of Australia on it. Strange coming off a sports bike. Got used to the agricultural nature and poor handling. Would I buy that thing at that price. No.
Was brand loyal for 27yrs, stopped liking Harleys years ago, too much high tech plastic looking for me now, I know they have to move with the times, just not for me anymore
Loving the detachable leaf blower exhaust. My yard has never looked so good
Top comment lol
Every new cruiser rider will go look at RE Super Meteor this year. HD just gave RE a whole market segment.
Harley's pricing is just ridiculous...
I think they could sell them for about 70% of their current pricing but all the time demand is so high for Harleys, (mainly in the U.S.) they will continue to take peoples money…
Yes it surely it.
which is why I took a pass for now....
@@philtucker1224 No, they are not in high demand. Sales are down compared to a few years ago
@@nerychristian that’s because their main customers were Vietnam Vets and boomers. That group is shrinking fast now.
Harley Davidson Management, I know you will read the comments. This bike is priced too high. Awesome bike, but the price is just too much. Its a motorcycle, not a luxury automobile.
90%+ of the bikes sold in the west ARE luxury vehicles, not necessary transportation. They aren't selling this to 3rd world families where it's their only transportation.
This is a kickass ride. The wheel and tire combo just looks killer. I love the 70s style Harley logo, and that mat finish, just cool. I haven't seen one up close and personal,but I'm looking forward to it. Great review!
Nice looking Hyosung.. 🤣
Great vid as usual Bob. As a once upon a time 1200 Sportster owner I think the Nightster looks good, and offers good tech, but at almost 20k USD, I can't see putting that money into that bike. Instead, can you say FTR1200?? Same tech with much better performance and a much better price point.
100% agree. And it’s cheaper “depending on the model”
Or just get the sportster s lol. The price different isn’t much considering how much additional performance you get
@@slimygoon9993 Also overpriced for what it is
This is the Harley I waited two years for and when it arrived I passed on it. I was not impressed with what they were offering for $13,500 MSRP + surcharges +freight +dealer fees= priceless!! Now they put the tech on it and a pillion (which it should have had for the original price) and added $1500 to the price?? $15k for this bike in USA plus markups is too much for any sane person. Good luck selling this bike I guess? I actually wanted it and didn’t buy it.
Well said - meanwhile the Japanese bikes are much more appealing: Kawasaki Z900Rs and Cafe - 12k Yamaha XSR900 - 10K Triumph Speed Twin 1200 / Bonneville T120 and you typically get a lot more bang for your buck.
Needs to be under $10,000.
They aren’t selling here in Florida, where every other garage has a Harley in it.
Have to be honest I was expecting 10 to11 k £ in the U.K. 15 bloo me away,
@@fivespeed3026 yes they’ve begun to outprice themselves now, particularly when the Indian and Vistory range is so much better value plus the Asian bikes are getting a lot beefier now as well for often almost half the price…
They are getting closer but they picked a bad time to let the Sportster prices get out of hand.
I don't understand this brand. Are they a "luxury" brand or an "outsider/rebel/non-conformist" brand ? Because "rebels" don't buy motorcycles in the 5 digits.
@@Beedji Non- conformist dentists, outlaw lawyers and rebel doctors are the economic groups targeted the public unwashed should enter through the back door. 😄😄 The difference between BMW and Harley marketing is the kind of dentists, lawyers and doctors they pander to.
@@flatcapcaferacer So they are targeting their products to people who like to posture ? Great business model....
@@Beedji The money is in the rich urban professionals pockets which started here in the early 1990s. People were not riders before with disposable incomes. Did Harley cater to them...yes. Did they BMW expand the sales on the GS by catering to pretend adventure tourers that tour mainly to the local Starbucks? How about Ducati selling 200+ horsepower $30,000 sport bikes to riders who get decked out in full leathers who take corners very slowly....posers?
Harley hasn't cornered the market on posers maybe they were early adopters. There are plenty of riders riding all the brands and models who are NOT posers.
Does this motorcycle has a left side?
Looks like there is only right side in all videos and pictures...
The left side is rather bland and agricultural looking (like many Harleys), some might even say messy, with coolant pipes, wiring looms etc.
Exactly what Mark said. Also goes for the Pan America and Sportster S. Fantastic motor but the left side does need work. That's why you rarely see it.
@@timp1051 Indian has it right on their Scouts.
I own a 2022 Nighster, the 2023 S model the pluses are the risers and speedo display, and cruise control. The passenger seat and pegs too. The neg vs 2022 are airbox cover and the black wheels vs silver. I’ve updated everything from the seat to heavy breather intake and exhaust. As time passes you’ll find more updates to make your Nighster your own
You don't have to wear a ball cap all the time. You're one of the rare dudes who looks good bald -- makes you look like a proper tweed English gent
Give me a used forty eight any day
The motor is cool but I’m not down with it’s the style and I don’t need all the electrical gizmos. Give me an early 1990s Evo Sportster style with that motor and less electronic stuff. The headlights they are using ,not my cup of tea either. I prefer the classic round headlights
I am an American without a taste for Harley's. This, however, is a sharp looking bike. Thank you for the review!
Thank you !
Love those new rims. They harken back to the style from the older Sportsters like the 2003 Roadster I had.
Too much fakery HD. There was a ti.e when HD made the engine attractive
Great bike but there is a brake disc missing from the front wheel
Never had the chance to ride one of these newer Harley's, would be interested to see how they compare to the more traditional engined machines I have ridden. As for this bike, I think it looks quite nice (except for that hideous exhaust) but it does seem a bit pricey for what it is......beautifully made video as usual Rob, you are the man!
Thanks Andy! I’d swap the pipe straight away too, but agree the price point is a little high. Still, bikes like the Triumph Bobber and Indian Scout have gone up a bit recently too…
Is that the new Honda ? Asking for a friend . Looks like a 70s Honda
Looks good from the right hand side, but did the Harley design team run out of $$$ and just not bother finishing the left?
this is the thing thats shocked me so much with a few of the recent cruisers from harley & indian- reviewers go on about how gorgeous they are, but from the left hand side they're just a mess
Thank you for the video.
I've owned three Harleys in the past and loved them.
Sadly, of late, Harley seem to have lost the plot.
Far too overpriced for ok bikes, compared to many other brands.
They seem to have decided to ignore or deliberately exclude younger, newer and riders who don't want to spend crazy money to join the brand. IMO short-sighted, as they are pricing these newcomers out when there should be a way into Harleys so that they can then upgrade later as I did from an old Sportster to a Fatboy. This way in would encourage long term brand loyalty.
Mind you the current Fatboy is over £20k so not an option for most.
They need a more affordable, smaller bike such as, dare I say it, the Super Meteor. They could price it around £10k and folks would be happy to pay a premium for the badge compared to RE.
Thanks again
Peter
I’m sad to say the Triumph is heading in the direction of HD with their prices.
@Gerard Washack I have to agree. I visited Triumph dealership last week and was a tad shocked at the pricing.
2 words: "Fuck NO!" Cheers Bob!
They really need to paint that tank. It looks like a toilet bowl float.
The tank is like a 'blank canvas' which in my opinion is wide open for say personalization with some pinstripes to match the color of the emblem. You know, make it my own style. I would extend the pinstripes to the fenders definitely and possibly some matching colors in spots on those rims.
A profeshional painter calls it 'black base primer'. C00L painted any color of the rainbow .
T/C/E
Make mine BLOOD RED .
As a non-cruiser, I think it looks like something I would be happy to ride. Classic but not old.
I will never NOT see a gigantic plastic leaf blower on the side of the bike (the exhaust). It looks sooooo bad 🙁
I'm glad that I have no desire to own a cruiser. Shocks with preload adjustment only as something worthy to note? Remove the seat to fill the gas (after only what, 120 miles?)? ~$17K? For all our complaining, we sport-tourers have it pretty good in comparison.
Just traded my 2018 tiger 1200 (and a ton of cash of course) for one of these bad boys. Now the wait begins (2-3 weeks for delivery)
Should have got a Rocket III.
@@Stevel_ Not enough support for Triumph in my area - the local dealership here doesn't inspire confidence and aren't very friendly or helpful
@@Mentatstrategy Well...enjoy the HD! Check out Indians in the future also, great bikes!
Is there a law not to show the shifter side of this bike?
I was thinking the same thing. It’s ugly and could benefit from a muffler in each side
I REALY LIKE IT, I DIDNT AT FIRST BUT ITS GROWN ON ME, THE NEW (SPECIAL)IS ALOT NICER THAN THE STANDARD! FOR THE PRICE YOU MAY AS WELL GET THE SPORTSTER S THO, WITH ONLY A FEW GRAND DIFFERENCE YOURE CRAZY NOT TO UPGRADE! THE SPORTSTER S IS DEFIANTLY ON MY BUCKET LIST !
Blue tooth , rider modes , bla bla bla just more tech junk to go wrong , engine, clutch, brakes , lights , wheels , a frame , a gas tank and a speedo that's all I needed when I rebuilt my first bike all most forty years ago , keep it simple .
Get the base model? 🤷♂️
I've got a 2011 Nightster and love it to bits. This looks great though.
Its a nice looking bike on one side but I wish they repeated the same look on the other side like the Indian scouts. And all that plastic just make it look cheap.
15k is expensive, but that’s actually a lot of bike. I was expecting some “premium new colors” in the special. I hope this means an optional nightster T coming up. Similar to the XL1200T, but with the power to back up the almost-softail weight.
Extra $ for a different colored fake fuel tank is something I can't get over. Nice bike but way overpriced
Great video. Those wheels look so good. I like them a lot.
that industrial yellow 👌
They’re trying to make yellow sound tough.
HD has another overpriced monstrosity that will not generate any interest from the youth nor grownups!!! This model will produce same results that the HD STREET model and that model was discontinued!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I’d like to congratulate Harley for once again missing the mark. This bike, with the sportster S’s price and performance, is all the people wanted. You gave us an incredibly performing motorcycle that is too stylistic for everyone, then you gave us a more classically styled sportster with sub par performance and an outrageous price tag. What is it that this company does not understand? Keep the style we like, give us modern performance, stop over charging people for your brand. I was hoping these new bikes would be the first Harley’s I would actually buy off the floor, looks like I’m still gonna have to wait for the used market and realistic pricing.
Completely agree. $15,000 plus tax, title and license, dealer markups, delivery charges and other hidden fees plus extra for an optional colored fake fuel tank I think we are looking at close to $20,000. That is a very expensive entry level bike for a new rider.
Hopefully they release the 975 Pan Am soon
Excuse me, waiter. I’d like to send this back to the kitchen. I ordered a Bronx.
Love the classic Harley/AMF logo and they could go a long way with just that logo alone... But the bikes maybe not so much.
I like the direction & what Harley is doing with their bikes. I would buy one.
I think its very marmite. They could have made it so much better but the tank and exhaust look like they were given to the junior designers. There are a lot nicer HDs out there.
Completely agree that the Nightster Special’s additional features make it a worthy upgrade.
Anything with a single disc should be cheaper than £7000
I would have to agree that Harley should have done this on the original model. For all that plastic is 10k over budget most will just get a RE super mediocre. They just handed them the keys 🔑
Great short vid, exactly what I wanted, what do I get for that extra 1.5k? I'm looking to upgrade to a more commuter bike, is it fair to cross shop this with the T120?
I like the retro looking badging. 👍🏽 It's funny tho how most show only the right side, clearly bcuz the right side of the motor doesn't look as nice.
True. Like the left is just junk, bloody awful.
Wicked looking bike
Nice looking modern ride! 👍🏾
the Nightster tank graphics are so much better for 2023 ... all carryover models this year though, there must be something in the works.
I was wondering why you didn't show the other side of the bike. A right dogs dinner on the left.Even the right side is covered in cheap plastic fax par cylinder covers. same old, same old. Yawn.
Looks like Harley really did a nice job with this bike. I would be interested to see if it can be fitted with saddle bags to make it more commuter and light touring friendly and a backrest for increased passenger comfort.
Everything looks like cheap plastic, even the engine. No areas at the bike where I want to look at, every part ist looking like a kitchen machine. Boring design, far away of a real harley - 100% unsexy...
I really want to like this bike but the price just makes it an automatic no for me. It looks neat! But why would I get this over a Scout or Rebel 1100? Shit, at this price point, why not go with an FTR1200?
Considering that the Harley purists also hate this bike, I might as well wait until these go cheap on the used market.
The changes improve the bike, but it will be interesting if the dealers can sell any more units. It has not been a sales success in my part of the world.
None on the road here in Florida. I see Pan Americas fairly often and own one myself, but not one single sighting of the new Sportster lineup.
Id love to own it.
So much for The sportster being a relatively affordable entry level bike… hilarious for a company who is struggling to bring a new generation of riders on board… Harley needs to pull their head out of their ass
For many decades HD has been largely marketing towards those inclined to hubris; manufacturing motorcycle as fashion statement more than motorcycle as sport? It’s going to be interesting to see how these more refined products are received by, well - who knows who?
Fantastic guys
I have always enjoyed and appreciated your bike reviews. My concern is that you are getting too close to the manufacturers for objective reviews. The Nighster S is a hard pass compared to an MT, FTR, GSX, Monster, Ninja, Street Triple, V100, RNineT. It is ugly, overpriced and underperforming. I love the H-D 45 Degree V-Twin models and am ok with the PA. However, H-D outsourced the Nightster and Sportster S builds to 9th grade shop class.
Could you get the new high tech lcd display as an add on to the regular version? I like the look better of the regular nightster but want that display
My biggest disappointment with this bike, it should have come with the 1250
Harley never releases the baddest version first. Give it a couple years and if they haven’t dropped the lineup entirely, they will have a 1250 CVO, ST, or something like that.
@@fivespeed3026 and at $20,000 starting
cheap bulshit with fancy logo. Just look at the details, finishing. Awefull. Single front brake disc is something to start to be suspicious.
It's a joke but it's not funny., think i'll stick with my Sporty.
As a new "biker chic" is this better than getting a 883 ?
its alot more money than a used older 883/1200 sporty. i feel like u could get one of those for like 3 or 4 k. The nightser though will dust both of the older stock sporty's which r around 55 hp i think
Jayme, as a Engineer and Master Harley Tech, absolutely NOT. Unless of course you have a lot of money, and you love all the new electronic gadgets that these new bikes have. Don't listen to the know it all internet geniuses regarding horsepower comparisons. The original Sportster is about everyday riding, usable, and friendly - Torque. Horsepower is a CALCULATION derived from TORQUE. There's a REASON the Sportster remained basically unchanged for decades, and they sold every single one. Ask yourself, where's the V-Rod, or the Street 500 and 750?
Gone, but the old school Sportster lasted for decades plus. Oh and the people complaining about only 1 disc brake in the front, again because they really don't have a clue and just want to impress their friends on the internet. I have 3 Harleys that I race regularly, none of them have double disc brakes up front, and Dyna's weigh a 100 pounds more !!!
Good luck. 👍
T.S. RACING
They just don't get it on how to get younger new customers in to the brand, over priced and very boring, also looks cheep in places.
I find it amazing that Harley keeps "creating" new models that are nothing more than hybrids of Sportsters, Dynas and Soft tails. This seems to be a mix between a Dyna and Sportster. Plus, they keep raising the prices and I would HIGHLY question reliability.
it is possible to move the side mirrors to the levers?
Please compare this Harley to the Indian scout equivalent.
Hard to clean them rims...
Great video thanks
by this time. quick shifters should be standard
Quick shift that gearbox? How?
The only thing that bothers me is the unpainted fenders. For the kind of money they are asking I like the billiard blue but paint the dam fenders to match that “tank”. There’s no way the “tank” cost 375 to paint it.
I've seen one in person, and it actually looks much better live than it does in pictures or videos. That said, it looks far too packaged for a HD.
Just ride the thing. We don’t need the blab on the modcons
350 quid for a "Premium" (single colour) paintjob on one part of the bodywork? No thanks. Those colour options looked cheap AF. The only bit that looked good was the instrument binnacle. Each to their own and all that.
Don’t think you addressed the elephant in the room; that awful exhaust. If I was to buy a Harley it would be an older sportster/ 48. So many new bikes have a real plastic cheap look. If I had £15k this would be the last bike on my list
Most people swap out the exaust anyway. But your right, it's a hideous stock exhaust wth 😂
@@ceelojaycee718 agree. Which is why my money would go to an older roadster with mods done or where I would do it myself
Hello great material very nice ride ;)
Ive kinda laughed these off since they came out but those are some awesome features
Excuse me as I vomit.
What the fuck is HD doing with these Evo replacements.
Too much money for this sporty. Not to mention market adjustments…. Greedy HD dealerships, I won’t buy another bike from HD as long they keep their dealerships keep this price gouging, I encourage others to do the same.
They are not in touch with reality, they believe there own hype.
Why they got rid of the Vrod, I'll never know.
That motor was a jewel and could of been made into other models.
Hey Harley, how the Electric bike selling.
can get aloaded bmw for this price ; but its not a low rider comfy cruiser
Research counter steering
Nice
They have done it AGAIN there is a brake disc missing from the front wheel what a real shame they keep doing this with thse heavy bikes appart from that a great looking bike my first mod would be that 2nd brake disc on the front wheel that should have been there before it left the HARLEY factory
300£ for a "premium" paintjob? Silly indeed! A laidback cruiser bike...with more buttons on the handlebar than in my car? No, I really don't get this bike.
All those covers instead of making a nice looking bike. Always the right hand side towards the camera. No mr Bob, I don't like it! And for that price? No no!
Thank you mr Bob!
In Spain... Nighster Special 19.350 euros.... Softail Standart 20.990..... No sense....
H.D. is still in business, really?
Simply overpriced.
Like this a lot. “Purists” of course are not happy but they’re never happy anyway so screw them. Sweet bike
Almost 20K and they still haven’t finished the left side of the bike, thats Harley lol
Never got the cruiser thing when young. Now old and the body is weaker. The legs don't work as well I get it. In fact I bought a cruiser. But mine is a Honda. Some Harley's look pretty cool. Wouldn't say that one does. They all have one thing in common. Very expensive. Only ever ridden one Harley. A Fat Boy way back in 96. Hired it and rode up and down east coast of Australia on it. Strange coming off a sports bike. Got used to the agricultural nature and poor handling. Would I buy that thing at that price. No.
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You'd expect Harley to have an owner's manual
Harley’s have to look nice and the nightster doesn’t pass the test
The timing side is gorgeous. The drive side not so much. That has of cause always been that way for Harley but it's getting worse.
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@@motobob Only if you're a discord member 😃
15k haha having a laugh...
Was brand loyal for 27yrs, stopped liking Harleys years ago, too much high tech plastic looking for me now, I know they have to move with the times, just not for me anymore