Path of Exile 2 Team Reveals The Truth
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- Path of Exile 2 Documentary featuring PoE 2 Game Directors & Game Designers
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Isn’t it “crazy” how the directors of the game are actually knowledgeable about the game and they actually PLAY the game
Activision: Developers understand and play their game? *That* *is* *an* *illegal* *move*
Also Activision Blizzard: Let's use these diversity hires for our presentation so we can blame any criticism for racism
Blizzard had this, until they got rid of all the founders and original staff.
Yeah really crazy how many problems they've had with PoE due to these directors who "PLAY" the game. I'm sure the bloat, the bugs and every poor decision they made over the years that tanked league retention was due to their knowledge.
play the game? you mean 2 hours gametime for each leag?
This game is really going to shine a light on blizzards greed and incompetence. I can't wait for people to compare PoE2 and Diablo 4 side by side and show just how lazy and lifeless Diablo 4 is.
definetly. you can watch a video on each. 10 minutes long and draw that comparison instantly. so sad :/
My videos are 100% better than Asmongold ⚡️⚡️☠️💀
That won't happen because the people who play D4 will claim that they have jobs, families, and lives outside of gaming and D4's casual experience suits them better than sweaty PoE2 while ignoring the fact that nothing is stopping them from playing PoE2 casually. Some people CHOOSE mediocrity.
Okay, what good will it do? Like who isn’t aware of Blizz greed? People who drop all that money don’t watch this content nor do they care. It’s a shame, but the reality is a few nutty, sorry whales, is worth alot more than 100s or even 1000s of regular joes like you or me.
You didn't need this game to see that. Blizzard has already shown greed and incompetence.
D4: Path of Exile 2 is a anomaly and shouldn't be considered an industry standard.
One more thing almost nobody talks about is how awesome music and sound design in this game is. I think it's awesome and a pretty big part of this game.
It's because Kamil Orman-Janowski (the god behind the PoE1 music) is working on the PoE2 music for some time now, that's why we got Michael James Collier in PoE1, who is making the music for it atm. They searched for someone who can make music like Kamil and Michael was the one who got closest when I remember right.
Collier makes awesome music too, his themes are Lake of Kalandra, Sanctum, Crucible and Affliction. Personally the entire PoE1 soundtrack is the best ever made, listen to "The Climb" or the boss music, old/new Lioneye's Watch, Izaro's theme, Breach Lord's theme etc. OOOH
EDIT: Oh shit... I literally forgot my number 1 theme of all time... "Orion" (Sirus)
It annihilates d4 music
lunaris temple ambience is in my top 3 tracks to fall asleep to.
@@torrezey ...I hope you just mistaken it for Solaris temle, I really hope...
Never liked poe1 gameplay, but their environments and sound design are amazing
I think I understand why big studios often struggle to produce good games. It may have something to do with identifying with the project. Nobody cares enough because nobody really have big influence.
It seems that a smaller team can produce a good result and be proud of it more likely
Most of the time it boild down to the directing staff and creative team. Big studios have big investors behind them giving htem guidelines and only allowing things that are confirmed to give big returns. Its why every triple AAA interface seems to be a carbon copy of eachother and other stuff like that. This causes the directing staff to grow detached from the game and see it just as another day another dollar, don't care if people like it or not. And if someone of the lower echelons, like say the modelling staff or the programing staff don't care about the game thats perfectly fine, it almost will not affect the final result anyway, they are in a sense just your everyday construction workers, they are of course the ones building the stuff but they cannot change the final result much, it is the architect and engineers wich actually have a direct impact in the final result. And smaller teams generally tend to have creative and directing staff that is way more involved with the project because it being successful actually has a direct impact on their reputation and job security unlike big triple AAA directors who will always have another job avaliable.
I think some our out of touch now and just get a team that's very skilled and toss it at the project. But they lack the heart, at least to be centered on a specific project.
Don't forget of lay offs after ending big projects. Who gives a fuck about a game if you will be replaced.
lmao imagine a big company caring about their product
What I don't understand is why players fail to recognize good games.
Jeez I'm really blown away with how these environments look on poe 2. This game is going to be amazing.
That is what people said about D4...people are going to be disappointed yet again.
@@EK-rr2md people said that about D4, because blizzard releases hot garbage, which decreases in quality every year since almost a decade. meanwhile poe 1 releases season after season and seems to never really disappoint or give empty promises. one company keeps disappointing, the other keeps delivering
@allylilith5605 you must not be familiar with the poe forums, lol. There are always people complaining. People jump on hype trains like little monkeys and then start crying when they get disappointed. Happens way too often because many people cant think for themselves and follow internet hype. It will happen when POE2 releases in a year or so.
@@EK-rr2md literally every game forum is toxic. It's where people go to assert their anecdotal feelings and experiences as facts and then go rabid when it turns out not everyone agrees. The forums for any game are 99% a vocal minority.
people will always complain regardless of how good something is. that isnt a good measure of how well the game is perceived. the large majority of poe fans are satisifed with poe and are excited for poe2. cant say the same fro the d4 audience. they mostly dislike the game. @@EK-rr2md
@25:33 The other good thing about having a dummy vs PoB is that if there are bugs or unintended interactions the target dummy will show them, where as PoB only shows the theoretical values when everything works.
Yea power scaling in Poe, from crabs to god, and back to being one shotted by some rare crab in t16 map :)
Roa packs are the most dangerous encounter both at level 3 and at level 93 xD
"Remember your humble beginnings" - That one Rhoa.
Damn albino rhoa, always so smart...
One? Lol
What I also love about the game is how artistically well done it is: not just the visuals but also the music as well as sound effects and even the simple fact that there are no ugly circles on the ground to telegraph aoe abilities, or that there are no numbers. If you look at the retail WoW boss fights they just look gamey: circles and swirleys on the ground, numbers covering the entire screen all the horrendeously looking addons and literal air horns notifying of stages. All this stuff is completely immersion breaking to me.
I definitely agree. If someone is playing a game to see "unfathomably large number go brrr", they probably need hepl. If someone wants to enjoy a game for a fantasy experience, not for some sort of pp length contest, they definitely need as much immersion as possible.
@@mityakiselev I recently deinstalled a dps meter in system of discovery. It just doesn't anything to the game except for making it a pointless competition.
Like in Poe 1? 😂
I'm pretty sure you can remove circles and numbers if you want to, although it's going to make it quite hard, not knowing where exaclty attack hits can lead to your death, same with understanding when boss phases change, etc. You don't need thousands of addons that clutter 3/4 of your screen and millions of notifications about every little detail, these are for minmaxing shower hating grinders that treat anything other than most hardest late game raids as garbage not worth paying attention to. Your comment sounds like you want to make some superficial arguments to elevate poe and bring down wow, but they shouldn't be compared in the first place. Maybe something like black desert or even lost ark would be more reasonable, or i don't know, DIABLO/Other arpg? A wild thought i know.
@@kickrobotsintheballs5840 I don't seek to bring down WoW, simply looking at PoE made me realize why I don't want to play retail. Classic WoW is a different story: I am playing SoD atm and I love it! But you can also play this game without any addons.
In general, it's a personal preference thing. If you like numbers it's perfectly fine! It's just a shame to me that what Blizzard made out of vanilla WoW which I loved turned out so unappealing that I quit playing forever after WoLK came out. Simply watching videos from the current retail makes me not want to even try.
In general, numbers are not a big thing in itself: when I played Diablo 4 (for a bit, lost interest fast) I simply turned them off. Especially in a (mostly) single player games it is not important as long as there is an option.
As a Maori from New Zealand i love this so much that he put our culture in the Game !!! respect Grinding Gears
Respect from Australia mate :)
Did you play the last league bro? Was mean as seeing the whole thing based around our culture. Hearing Te Reo gave me chills
i was actually thinking to myself how much i wanted a target dummy the other day. i was playing a minion build and i was hitting red maps and was trying to find ways to optimize my damage. the issue is that minion builds in particular have so many variables and moving parts that neither the in-game damage numbers or pob can paint an accurate picture of your dps. (other culprits include spellslinger, poison builds, and volatile dead). just having something in your hideout that you can use to check your damage would be so helpful.
Thats why Pob community for is a thing you know :p
@@eldorath1 sure but even that get numbers wrong at times.
@@eldorath1bozo he just said that pob doesn’t always get it right
I wish they had a death summary that showed what type of damage and what mechanics killed you. It would be easier to figure out what defenses you need
afaik it's intentional that it's not being shown to encourage experimentation
i wish their game had multiplayer and u could see other players playing and doing quests and killing mobs whats the point of the fking game to like yeah in order to play this u should have internet connection i mean wtf i have like 40hrs on poe1 and i did quit just bcuz of this
@@hdhsksk1944 How would you go about doing that? Do mobs instantly respawn after defeat to ensure you aren’t walking through an area with no mobs? The first stage would be hard camped by bots and trolls to prevent you getting any experience. If you want to see someone kill mobs send them an invite and run together. This isn’t new to the ARPG genre, you see them in common areas, and do your own thing in your own world through the act unless you make a party.
Nice vid, I agree as well on the point of not removing complexity (mantaining the skill ceiling) but enhancing the ways new players interact to the game (lowering skill floor). It can be a complex game that explains its mechanics really well.
Depth != complexity IMHO. A game can be incredibly deep for an experienced player to sink hours into getting the hang of strategy and all the smol mechanics, but start out relatively simple for a more casual player not to be thrown off. Complexity just for complexity's sake is really apparent, you can tell if the devs actually spent a lot of time designing a cool game. It's the developer's job to manage the dankness curve in such a way that it's fairly straight forward at first glance, but as you play through the game and get more or less used to your controls and skills and combos, you progressively get more and more options to customize and improve your experience. If you have complicated mechanics, the last two things you could possibly want to do is 0) not show or explain anything at all so that most players don't even realize you can do that, it can be a feature but usually it signifies bad user experience design; and 1) pour so much information on the player that they simply block it out and stick to the simple stuff, which most game devs tend to do. The complicated stuff should be somewhere in the middle, explained as intuitively as possible, preferably without too much exposition text. The curve should actually go (on the scale of 1-100) from somewhere in the single digits at level 1 to somewhere in the upper percentile closer to level 100, and the shape and slope of the curve should be really well-balanced for the game to really feel like a cool experience. I would say they have to sprinkle in new mechanics and layers of complexity one or two at a time for like the first 20-30 hours at least, so that players have enough experience with what you introduced before for every new thingy. I trust these devs to do the right thing and create a great game, hopefully they don't disappoint.
@@mityakiselev Chess is a great example of a game which has a really really low skill floor with humanely impossible skill ceiling and depths. Which is why I think it is by far the most famous and long lasting competive game.
How far apart the floor and ceiling is is in my opinion one of the best metrics to judge a complex game.
I hope they have actual trading system even some simple auction house would be better than what is today. with some things like that where you need to be in a city would be fun
@@timperman9883 I would honestly argue chess isn't as much of a skill game as it is a pattern recognition game. I watched quite a few grandmasters explain their thought process when solving puzzles, and usually it's not really strategy, it's more like "does this very specific pattern I memorized apply to this situation?", which is way less fun. The skill floor is actually quite high since you have to understand how the pieces work and what they're able to do, if you move them randomly you're going to get a scholar's mate faster than you could say "rook". This doesn't really apply to video games since it's a completely different thing. I thought more along the lines of "WASD to move, these buttons to attack" at first => skill management, combos, builds, crafting, and stuff like that later on.
@@mityakiselev the best progression system I've encountered is Doom Eternal.
The game throws a lot at you, however you develop skills naturally as your weapons arsenal grows, with meaningful upgrades, and more.
Complexity is non linear, it is exponential, if you want to add something complex to an already complex system it can change everything. For that given a certain mechanic a certain use should be implemented without it being impossible to live without that mechanic, and encouraging funness.
I agree organic growth is important and videogames are the medium in which people can interact with stuff rather than being tell stuff. I hope as well that the devs will provide the best experience they can, as they seem to be working passionly about it.
Love how people go "So like WoW" in terms of the power fantasy.
Meanwhile in every single expansion you're practically the footsoldier for characters that actually matter.
if not a death recap, at least I want to see which debuffs I had before I die, I want to read and assest what I was affected with before dying so I can ajust, maybe looking for resistance or inmunities to that curse/hex/ailment/etc.
Waos.
id like to point out something huge. your in game purchases will transfer over into poe2. and poe2 will transfer to poe1. thats such a major move that goes to show how great they are as a company to not siphon every dollar from they fans.
I wish that this stupid looking cosmetic stuff didn't carry over to PoE2 :( players look like lit up christmas trees in towns, ugly.
@@lizardwizard4542tbh i dont really care about the cosmetic side of it but the fact that you dont need to buy again all of those stash tabs is amazing.
Yeah lowkey same, for some reason PoE players are absolutely tasteless and everyone goes for over the top eyes melting cosmic/fire cosmetics, it is really weird since there are good cosmetics in the game@@lizardwizard4542
It was the absolute LEAST they had to do. People have been paying them for PoE2 thinking it was gonna be an expansion for PoE1. If they didn't atleast let you carry over the stuff you paid for there would be a riot...
18:20 I like the way he has almost rediscovered the concept of power in mathematics on his own, what a genius
"POE2 is a game where you start very immersed in the world, and over time you can grow to have the power of a god"
Until you see a dog with soul-eater, 6 essence mods, and triple empowerment.
I agree with removing unnecessary obscurity without removing complexity. It took years for me to understand a lot of things in Poe because I’m stubborn and want to learn by playing without outside resources. I still don’t understand a lot though lol. Also any time I try to get someone to play with me they see the skill tree and all the systems and I can see their brain melt 😂. Point is the complexity and skill ceiling is what gives it so much depth, but there is a lot of things that are unnecessarily complicated or unexplained that makes it incredibly difficult for new players who are used to easier or more intuitive modern games.
This is actually interesting, even from what they've shown us, there appears to be even more complexity here than in PoE 1, but I feel like it's gonna be introduced in a smoother way. Maybe they don't just throw the player into every mechanic available, but sprinkle them in more slowly and intuitively. Fingers crossed I guess
@@mityakiselev I haven’t been keeping up with Poe 2 super in depth but from what I’ve seen and heard I hope that’s what they are doing.
@@bullet4myex187 If you wanna check it out, Asmongold watched a few dev videos lately, and it looks amazing (not only visually, but from the synergy standpoint). Apparently, you'll be able to _and_ have to customize your skills and weapon binds and utilize them all to achieve a great result.
A few examples:
1) you can get different skill tree branches for weapon swaps and even character shapes (bear counts as a separate swap btw) for a wider build so that you don't have to put all your points into lycanthropy and go around as a bear forever (ahem ahem Diablo 2) and still get good DPS;
2) your skills combine with each other so you'll have to use them in sequences to achieve a result: if you bear stomp near a volcano as a druid, the volcano spits out more lava from the vibration, which makes a lot of sense but is insanely cool, the mercenary can combine different attack patterns (sniper crossbow, assault, shotgun) using different ammo (incendiary, freezing, oil) for different effects, which all synergize with each other, so you can freeze an enemy and break through its armour or try to shatter it completely into shards, and so on;
3) all skills are now socket chains where you put gems directly into the skill to create a custom OP synergy-based ability, so basically custom 6-links for every skill;
and so on and so on, I won't bore you with too much detail, you can check out other reactions, my point is the devs are actually trying to create a cool game, which is a revolutionary concept nowadays
@@mityakiselev I honestly disagree. For me it seems they have dumbed down systems. Like op said it is also needed, though we probably won't be happy if all complexity vanishes.
@@akitahvanainen I feel like we've seen about 2 hours of early-game alpha footage from all sources combined. It's definitely too early to decide on whether the complexity is there when the full game comes out and we reach like level 80. There's probably gonna be something like in PoE 1 where you will have to use a bunch of various resources to roll different aspects of items and gems, try to stick them together in a coherent manner, find/roll/craft a suitable weapon swap, reallocate all necessary points to it, and so on. I think they won't leave us without as many, if not more, weird mechanics to delve into, they just won't be as needlessly hardcore about piling them onto newer players. At least that's what I hope happens.
My main issue with PoE 1 was how overwhelming the game was for me pretty early already, so seeing them improving on that in PoE 2 is definitely something i look forward to
This is PoE's biggest problem is how early it's overwhelming. In my opinion you don't get time to enjoy it at the start. You're just thrown in against (for new players) seriously difficult content because the game is designed around veterans making fresh characters. If they can fix this they can really get some huge popularity coz they clearly make quality stuff.
@@oxsilaSadly GGG doesn’t care about the onboarding experience due to _”The Vision”._ Who the hell *buffs* Act 1 mobs???
@@oxsila it was the same day 1 not much has changed for that aspect of the game
Its to weed out the casulz
Dunno man. I am new POE player but quite experienced in ARPG games. I think the mechanic is not that complicated. Intimidating yes, but not hard to learn. I say they design this for ARPG players than Veteran/ Hardcore
I love POE-1 damage stack possiblities.
I mean I have a marauder(Jaugger) whose heavy strike was only dealing 800 dmg and then I had multiple other skills I wasn't really utilizing.
So I got regret orbs and respec my passives to give me more ailments chance(Bleed/ignite/chill) and got some auras, looked through items for boosted dmg, jewlery passives, curse damage %increase, golem minion with electrrical(complimented with shock% increase), support damage multis, secondary attack skill(Which with passives and supp give 80% bleed chance) and supported my main(Heavystrike) Skill with boosted damge to bleeding enemies + boosted dmg against aliments and now, after four hours of mathz I got the 800 dmg heavy strike to 3000 upfront dmg and 4.5k dmg after modifiers and if shock hits then it goes up to about 6k+.
Went from fighting enemies, to feeling like N.A.T.O. would charge me with warcrimes. lol. I love it. and I'm not even past act 5.
Oh, and thts not even touching on my 4k armor which when aura boosted goes up to 9k with capped out ele res, 250 hp regen, 200 leech on hit, endurance charge boosts.
I think the most fun I'm having is in the fact that at any moment, I can go back to my hideout, switch out a few things, and be able to use a completely different playstyle.
There is a time penalty for doing so (having to farm for nessecary items, jewels, gems, armor, etc) But then again it makes it feel earned, it isnt just a "Hey ima paly like this for five minutes then switch" type of feel.
I also love the mini tetris game with the inventory lol.
I never got into PoE 1 its always been on my backlog and by now I just kinda feel late to the party, I can't wait for 2 to come out so i can hop on the release train looks really fun.
I’ve actually started playing poe because of asmonds vids and while it definitely is daunting learn I am really enjoying getting into it and I really like the proposed changes as a new player in poe 2
Its not worth it man.
Take it from someone with thousands of hours in poe.
Its not worth it.
It'll be so cool and interesting at first but once you get to a point, the more you learn, the more youll hate it unless you love pain and suffering for yourself.
But you'll be so invested that you feel like you should keep going cause you've already come so far and you're so close to being able to be the type of player you want to be and you can just stick it through XYZLMNOPQRS bullshit so that you can then play how you want to play and like it'll be fine its fine.
No.
Run.
Definitely worth getting into now. PoE2 is going to be a huge improvement, and PoE1 might be rough for people, but that existing game knowledge will carry into it.
POE sucks hopefully the second one is gonna be good
@StopTellin right now it looks like diablo but with garbage character progression(the items are the same).
But if they fix that shit then poe2 could be great.
GGG just needs to get their head out of their ass
@@TheCosmicAstro- Lmao you're actually cooked if you think the two are even remotely comparable. If the character progression in PoE is the ocean, Diablo is a fucking puddle.
Im glad the added WASD
i hate click to move
Was a major turn off for me in poe 1
i started playing poe when crucible league came out, i bricked 4 characters before actually trying to get into build guides, trading, pob, awakened poe trade, etc.
i still dont understand shit but ive already spent hundreds of hours of fun already. and thinking that poe 2 will make everything better just gives a tear to my eye
Last game I was this excited for was ER. I LOVE POE but I'm sooooo lost on most of it. So having a POE 2 is amazing for those that want to play it so we can start at step 1!
ER is my current favorite game of all time. I started PoE like 6 times and gave up...until it clicked. Now im addicted to the depth. Just like ER, this rewards you for your time like nothing else.
whats ER?
Probably Elden Ring@@jordanfowler4033
@@jordanfowler4033 Elden Ring
@@jordanfowler4033 probably Elden Ring
4:18 oh I remember Gothic doing backstory greatly too
Coming from NZ it’s pretty crazy such a small team on the other side of the world to everyone else is paving the way for games.
target dummy or dmg number would be way overflowing on screen but something like DMGMETER or combatlog so the community can make one would be nice
What I really want updated is the Trading/buying/selling. It should be so much easier. Need a better marketplace for trade that doesn't require the whole system to be manual. You should just be able to post an item and next day see it sold on your account or be able to buy anything instantly for listed prices.
Every time see Blizzard getting an L theres coming even more around the corner
Wow, I was hoping for a new Asmon poe video and there it is.
one thing I thing they should work on is having fewer drops that people need to know about (stuff like fractured bases) or introduce in game tutorial about those
21:00 My personal concern: limiting Classes to hard to a Playstyle. What makes PoE diversified is that you can mix the Classes and Skills quite good. Rangers can be played as Spellcaster, Mages as Meelee or Meelee as Bow-Chars. I hope that the new Class-System isn't too narrow.
Skill gems will still be universal. It will be the same as now, with certain ascendancies being optimal for certain builds/playstyles.
Its kinda been that way since ascendancy in 2016 though. Might as well make it official
Immortal had WASD movement, people loved it and then Blizzard had amnesia.
I do agree any efforts to make the use of 3rd party applications obsolete because of superior in-game design is ideal, but among the many potential suggestions, I personally don't want to see damage numbers. I appreciate that the visuals and UI of PoE keeps you very immersed in its world. Diablo 4 has great visuals but then that immersion is broken with bright, colorful damage indicators, attack telegraphs, etc ...
Yea im so fing sick of friggen health bars damage numbers an shi its like just let us play the damn game its screws the immersion and makes me not want to play it also makes me feel like i suck because i can see how much damage everyone else does so it makes me feel like im building my skill tree wrong
They could make it an OPTION, for people who don't care about immersion, and care more about what they care about...
imho it should be an option. You can choose max immersion or you can choose to see what the fuck is going on when your build isn't doing the damage
@14:15 the game Warhammer: Chaosbane had a mob that did that too. I'd defeat the mount, then the rider would dismount and I'd then have the kill the rider. I thought that was a cool idea. I'm glad to hear that POE2 will implement something like that as well, it's a nice touch in my opinion.
Hahaha the thing about PoE complexity - reminds me of an old clip of "Sips" opening the the skill tree for the first time... it's probably one of my favorite short clips 😀
I only played diablo 3 but god damn this game is talking to me on so many levels can't wait to try it
Play the first one, it's great you won't regret it
POE truly goated so glad I found it back in 2013 and never looked back
I wish they do more deterministic and less convoluted crafting, something like last epoch. I think it has the best crafting
tough vampiric mob of regeneration and armor - basically unkillable - they should just have grouped mods into offense and defense and reg and have the system pick max 2 off, 1 def, 1 reg mod AT MAX. cause also mobs who have 4 damage mods (haste, crtchance critdamage and +100% dmg as element are oneshotting everyone too ...)
Death recap is a must. Absolutely sick of not knowing what killed me half the time after 15k hours in POE.
Ya for ten years ive been Championing a console😂
You get one shooted anyway wdym lol
I started to play POE because of you, and I just wish I never bought D4 now.
D4 is not a bad game but tbh it looks half baked next to poe2
@@Ugin_Spiritdragon D4 and D3 are braindead arpgs. We seen it with s2. Even when the devs allows us to break the game, its just the same thing over and over again. Lillith dosent drop anything and all you have to do is to farm mats to farm Duriel. POE offers a sh!t load of content and is free to play. D4 is bad. And Glizzard is already setting the table to sell an expantion to release more unfinished content.. it's discusting. I have a life, and my 6 to 10 hours of gaming I have per week is way more worth on POE then on D4.
never wiki'd stuff about poe. was an og kickstart backer and i only play hardcore. i still haven't finished poe. yes ive gotten to mapping and atlas but yeah . good game :) cant wait for number 2
If they will add market, price-check and loot filter out of the box features, that would be a breakthrough
9:40 I recently came across that 1 rare mob that wont die because the regen is insane whilst the map boss dies almost instantly.
for me frost bomb is a must, no matter what build I play
75% reduced Life Regeneration rate is too good
And poe is a fucking free game?? Dam GGG is giving me larian studio vibes with the love they have for their game.
Good studio
20:00 It's what love about dark and darkers approach where its fundamentally the same but offer nuanced playstyles to excel
PoE one did not click with me when I started as there was so much complexity from the start. If they streamline this for PoE2 this is a must play. Especially the new controls and the graphics are insane. Very hyped for this one.
This is the era of new devs and companies replacing the OGs, and I'm all up for it, specially when the industry can't keep up anymore with the creativity and passion of these devs.
Can't keep up? What? You act like you've been a developer for 20 years. You have zero inside knowledge.
Its more about the industry not giving a f&ck about it rather than not being able to keep up with their creativity , but i agree with you.
@@Kmaitland89I mean they can't, not all have this problem, but it's quite logical that the ones who do are a result of not the lack talent or resources but because their focus has shifted almost entirely to squeezing customers out of their cash. So they have, in turn, reduce the priority that creativity takes in making their games.
@@Kmaitland89 True. And why would i need that inside view. I can figure out what went on inside the restroom, just by the smell and poop stains. I dont need to actually see you shitting in the toilet...
ironically, it's the new devs that caused the downfall of modern gaming.
i wish PoE had elective tutorial missions for each league mechanic, at least after the initial league the mech launches in so that you can keep the mystery of the new stuff
Holy fuck, I thought the beginning was in game graphics for a second haha, anyone else?
I kinda agree about target dummy but it needs to have a list of different effects that you can turn on to simulate what mobs\bosses would have. I feel like it must be complex or you will end up in a situation reality vs expectations. It's not happening and i don't want to know how long it takes to make complete build in pob. So thanks for all this people who make builds. Getting my shit kicked in this time around as a absolution necro. And yes, i already saw at least 2 soul eater elites that i couldn't even scratch, they would regen like crazy.
This is why i am against a target dummy, as there will be too many variables that depend the actual dps.
I like that Asmon points out how our character goes from killing boars to fighting godlike eldritch entity and all my duelist can think mid fight is "My spirit is spent", completely unphased by the encounter
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Every time I see new content from PoE2, I see something that makes me think "why isn't something *like* this in D4?" PoE2 is going to make Blizz and D4 look like clowns....greedy clowns.
They are not. PoE already has the title of sweaty try hard game and it is just not enjoyable for most people. PoE lost about 50k players after Diablo 4 was launch. It still hasn't regained that amount.
The only ones who will be claiming Blizzard being clowns are hardcore PoE fanboys but the thing is they are already doing it.
@@Zefar77 lol yea ok, keep telling yourself that. I know this isn't anywhere near the full numbers, but just based off steamcharts D4 has like 6k players in the last hour.... meanwhile PoE has over 100k, and their loss gain trend basically coincides with the seasons.
@@shawnfee9107 Brother, steamcharts for diablo? Really?
@@Zefar77 D4s retention is literally shit. It far more marketed so it got a lot of newbies into the genre. D4 is the best thing that ever happened to PoE, because they got into a genre via a limited game that has training wheels and now they move onto something far more rewarding.
@@janniknielsen9292 You missed the part where I stated that it lost 50k players after Diablo 4 was released.
You can see this at the start of seasons and counting the player numbers.
The paragon board in Diablo 4 isn't easy to learn. Neither is putting together a build by yourself that will slaughter high level enemies and also giving you survivability.
PoE isn't more rewarding. It's just hiding every useful mechanic behind mountains of Wikipedia pages.
Loot drops are also worse. You can barely find good drops after you're past level 80 for your own character. Because the only way you get better gear is to get rich with crafting materials and build it yourself.
Which again you need such massive amount of information for it that it is just not worth your time.
You nailed it with the Monster Hunter analogy, the entire time I was watching I was thinking how POE2 must be taking inspiration from MH because the Warrior in particular has such a similar flow to combat. I love monster hunters combat design, it's probably the most polished rewarding experience in gaming, so I hope to the old Gods they use mechanics like that in boss fights. Tactical combat by building stuns/freezes to make big openings for huge charge skills to bonk bosses into oblivion, pure dopamine.
MH Hammer bros sound off.
Bonk
I really hope they do more combo skills to give more of that Monster Hunter feel. So like a single skill could have a 1-2-3 hit type combo, which can be cancelled into certain other skills, and of course dodge roll, etc
I'm invested in D4 enough to want to see where it goes, but I'm starting to come around to the idea of trying PoE.
However, can a "casual" (if there's such a thing in PoE) play multiple classes in a "season"?
I liked the fact that in D3 I could max multiple classes and try different builds to keep myself engaged in various ways.
Based on my experience? Yes. Not to full completion perhaps, but far enough that each is on the 'honing the blade' stage where you have the entire build online for a solid chunk of that playtime.
Just play one class per season. there are a ton of league starters that can branch off into multiple different mid tier toons and late game toons - or different ones that can specialize in certain league mechanics. there is also standard too, but it's more fun to play each season.
This game is soo damn good i will struggle just to decide my first class. at 6:22 we get a glimpse of their character selection screen!
what i dont like of the game is the clarity contrast between the field and the enemies and characters, they sort of blend, i would like them to be more separated but maybe there will be mods or options for that.
a highlight enemies option would be nice.
I think it's a good thing that they blend in and look like the part of the same world and lit under the same conditions as the rest of it. Far more immersive than some highlights or super Hugh contrast setup where it looks like you're walking on a green screen.
Imma be honest with you, the revolutionary concept that you have to use and combine multiple skills instead of just clicking LMB to destroy the entire screen is mind-blowing to me. If they balance the game right where you actually need the entirety of your piano keyboard control layout to deal sufficient damage, and one-tapping everything will require at least some form of strategy and experimentation, that's gonna be straight up better than Diablo II, and that's a high praise. Of course, D2 will always have a special place in my heart and a nostalgia factor associated with it, but let's face it, the balancing and level of ability usage in that game is still not great even after two decades of patches.
one interesting thing about path of exile is that it doesnt load thecontents of every characters stash tabs the moment the character is on screen
I am so excited for the release of the game! It is so very reassuring to know that the developers haven't lost that spark they have to WANT to make their game feel fun and good to play. They put their passion into the project and it shows in spades, Path of Exile one has to be one of the greatest gems in ARPG history and I can only expect good things from the second game.
i'm gonna fold you like a pretzel
@@donsly375 ...but why?
I'm sorry @@MysticBlueFox , you didn't deserve that
POE2 makes me really worried about my GPU...
My laptop is gonna melt fr.
I have an overclocked 3080 and I play EVERY SINGLE GAME on max settings. The only game my rig has crashed on our locked up or hiccuped on is when there's a billion pixels going the speed of light in a huge battle in PoE. Literally the ONLY game that doesn't run smooth as silk 100% of the time.
Can’t wait to play it.
Its really exciting that theyre interested in making it more into an action game from its ARPG roots
Now that i just thought about dodge, having gems that modify your dodge would be really cool too.
"we go from killing crabs to kill gods and then eldritch horrors"
and then the crab one shots you on T16 cause it has the Arch Nemesis affix with the lightning totems. Crab is clearly the apex predator.
Herald of Obelisks affix was in the game way before arch nem. And yes, it was as bad as it is now (even higher damage, but the obelisks spawned on enemy death, so a lil bit more dodgeable). Also, they had several variants - one was lightning ball, second one lightning warp. If you had lightning ball one in a tight space - GG, GGG moment happened.
god i hate lightning totems
@@matejbosela9093 I am not talking about the Bloodline one
The inventory in poe 1 is too small, currency items fill 1/3 of it and then you have to be too selective with the items you can pick up. I hope this is fixed in poe 2.
I perosonally think it is a charm - the PoE cured my Hoarder impulse, lol
after thinking about whether I agree with you or not, I realized that late game you shouldn't be even picking up that many items. Once you get the upgrades you need you going to be picking up only currency anyway. Limited space got me to eventually stop picking up shit from the floor. I know I did, I picked up something I thought I needed but I actually didn't once I exited the map. Also, I think making the game too convenient might not be the way to go, now I know this sounds like a quality-of-life improvement, but it might be a developer's choice after all...
having to choose what to pick up is a design choice. you get accustom to it
Extra 20 slots from primal ascendancy. Its not crazy I know is what it is
After wetting my appetite for a brief time with diablo 4, I realized I like this genre more than I thought. And I wasn't really into POE for a while because I didn't like the genre because I didn't understand it. But after seeing gameplay of POE 2, I'm excited for this game.
Fast pace end game where your positioning is crucial to not getting hit and die, WASD keys move would be so good, finally can move and attack at same time rather than slow laggy movement by mouse click when you need mouse aim to also attack.
It still amazes me to see devs playing the game they are making 💀 like this shouldn’t be a thing im surprised and happy about
This makes me so hyped for the game wtf
Would be cool if they allowed for greater zoom-out.
I feel like huge monsters taking up 20% of the screen could get annoying.
you can mouse over a spell and see how much damage you do. Also, the character screen shows you. But having damage numbers is something I would take or not, I really dont care, other good arpgs have the numbers like Grim Dawn etc. and poe does not and both are good games. So yea, if they do numbers I know they would look good because it is POE style if they dont I dont care
DPS showing when you hover on a spell is very vague and doesn't consider a lot of factors, like resist on a mob
@@AGSTER right, I was just pointing out there are some kind of numbers already in the game telling you some information, however inaccurately
I am a filipino who lives in new zealand for a couple of years now. I played poe even before i got here in NZ. Now, i appreaciate POE more because i understand it more knowing the game was made here and infuenced by the local culture and environment.. i am very excited to see what POE2 will bring to the arpg world.. super hyped, just need to get a good laptop for it lol
Can you imagine the level of excitement of devs when they saw how bad was diablo 4 and how much new stuff they can try and work on, knowing that their product gonna blast so much. Cant wait POE2.
Currently I'm only 30 hours in POE but I know it's a massive game and there's a lot of content I have yet to see but this video show POE2 is looking very good
The most important thing for me is the endgame, and it wouldn't be fun if they just copy-pasted the same mapping system to PoE2 imo. It would be too stale. The Nexus from Synthesis League was more dynamic, as you could place your maps in a grid to progress in a 3-dimensional space. There, you're not grinding the same map 24/7 to get the best rewards, you're getting the maps as tiles to path through. That was peak endgame for me, and nothing since has compared.
Jonathan said the team were spitballing ideas for how the endgame should be either improved or overhauled at need. I feel like they can deliver when the time is right.
X times more excited to play POE2 than anything. Can't wait these 6 months.
Graphics look good. Dark ARPGs need to be realistic looking to capture the horror and mood.
That's just clearly not true
There is no horror there... "just another mob"
The Level of Complexity is way beyond what i know from other Games. I guess i started 8 or 9 times and gave up caus it was overwhelming and so much Information. Now i try again and use another Way to make it comfortable to me. I just run the Story, then Atlas...and step by step i go on. Even if its hart,i´m so looking forwar dto PoE2 i get to know the Mechanics.
I agree with asmon on the damage numbers and target dummy. Seeing yourself make a huge crit for a million damage is fun
Really happy this seems to be an evolution of the arpg genre. The combat especially looks really visceral and reliant on comboing multiple abilities rather than just having one super buffed up ability
One button > dash is boring
theyve learned from league i think
Thankfully there are still great developers not trying to Grift the shit out of thier players
they need a better trading system. chaos orbs are considered the "trading currency" already, some sort of auction house would be great and fill the need for a city with people there using it
Wow, I've never seen this cinematic before. - When you've gamed so long you can no longer distinguish reality.
Was it confirmed whether POE 2 will be a expansion of POE or a new game yet? I've been out of info for a while now in this regard.😅
Its a new game and all microtransactions from POE are usable in both games
It is a "new" game. Some things from POE will seamlessly work in POE2, but it is a new story, and a new passive skill tree and gem system.
The idea is you can just play POE1 and naturally transition to POE2, and the story is connected somehow.
It's a completely separate client. As far as I'm aware, they've said that they'll keep both games online, and share mtx between them, but their original intention of wanting the games to have separate campaigns and link up in the endgame isn't possible anymore.
@@Photonkannon Like god of war ragnarock that started almost immediately after the ending of its prequel?
A new game but with many glamour-based things being useable in both.
What I like about PoE it's crafted with love by players 4 players. The way the characters move, cast a spell etc. feels so much more alive than D4 stiff animation. If compared to D4 PoE has a living soul, YOU HEAR THAT BLIZZARD!
Keep telling you that.
10:05 the leech modifiers are killing me as a new player
I'm hoping this game spawns other obline games like it. How it did with Undecember.
But after this there would be literal mmorpg's with enemies around the maps dropping actual random generated loot like in POE.
You know what would attract a lot of people while still keeping a game complicated? Is that for every class, you have 3 archetypes you can choose and you can auto level them with a button to create a viable but standard build. Experts can skip that and do everything manually, but new players can learn to build archetypes like that while still beeing able to reach the endgame.
Map boss killed in 0.3 seconds watching me struggle against a yellow crab for 5 minutes:
now i know where does that dude bonking crab meme comes from, no wonder why its familiar
I don’t like numbers because numbers hurts immersion. But have like mob and boss dummies you can “knock over” to benchmark standing dps.
They said they won't add a target dummy to PoE because people would stay in hideout smacking the dummy trying to get bigger numbers instead of playing the game and trying things out there. Then they would be misled into thinking their build was good because of the target dummy but there might be a lot of situational stuff they didn't consider.
We have the same issue with PoB where people crank up unrealistic settings to get a bigger DPS number but in reality you're never going to have all these buffs up at one time during a boss encounter. Maybe for 1s but it's not realistic sustained DPS.
You don´t need DPS when you can kill it in one blow
and yet people are already doing that in PoB hahaha spending hours making the number go up just to find out that it's clunky to play or hit like a wet noodle the moment they encounter a monster that moves around a lot
I don't get their reasoning, because looking at Last Epoch (which has target dummies) doesn't have this problem at all.
Hands down the best game developers in the industry.
It feels like the top down ARPGs are finally living up to the "Action" part of the genre's name. Love to see it!
Target dummy would be great. Combat (death) log would be better. An accurate ‘dps’ number hovering over your skill would be great too. The game knows your actual damage, why the hell does your shown dps number ignore half the modifiers and give bad numbers?