ULTIMATE 3D PRINTER TUNING GUIDE for the ELEGOO Neptune 4 plus / pro / max
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Here's everything you need to know about tuning your ELEGOO Neptune 4 3D printers.
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I think it means a lot when I tell you that we have been waiting for a long time for you to make a video showing how you configure your machines to obtain results as good as your videos. A big hug and greetings.
I appreciate that! Thanks for waiting patiently and for watching! 🙋🏼♂️
One off best videos what i have seen about tuning! Not too long and not too short, and not too complicated to understand all the calculation! Nice! Thumbs up from me!
Thank you for this video. I love and support Canadian content. This has helped me setup a Amazon return of a N4 Max, sold as open box for $299.99 CAD everything inside was loose and warped, dropped . I put it together and it printed garbage, then after watching this I fixed, updates, calibrated and have done more, final results were night and day,
Glad to here that this helped!! thanks for watching and supporting :)
The timing and thoroughness of this video couldn't be better as my new Neptune 4 Plus just arrived yesterday and I plan to work on getting it assembled tonight and work on tuning it over the weekend! Thanks for so much information and how well it was presented here!
Oh perfect! Let me know if you have any issues during tuning! Good luck
@@WildRoseBuilds I've got two of the 3 initial test prints you used. What is the name or where do I find the middle one with the top layer info?
@@WildRoseBuilds I've tried to start doing some of the OrcaSlicer calibration tests and I can't even get the first Flow Rate to work. It looks like it starts to draw the outline of the shape (rather ugly honestly) then when it starts to fill in the piece it goes through the motion but no filament seems to be coming out to lay down inside the shape. I'm not sure what the issue is. My test prints came out fairly well before trying the calibration. lol
Update: I missed the decimal point in the Flow Rate. The poor print head was trying to force 100 through that nozzle. That's been corrected. Now I think I'm having z offset issues because I'm having plat adhesion issues. I'm going to start with that tomorrow and see how it goes.
Final Update: All squared away. Thanks again for the awesome video. Things looking good on my end. I still can't seem to fully print the double helix as it starts to unravel near the top of it. I'm trying an actual print that is just as tall if not a bit taller now and will see how it goes.
@@WildRoseBuildshey bro I been praying for some more Neptune 4 videos from you.
You really helped me dip my toes into klipper unfortunately I haven't really gotten too much further than that lol.
Any chance you could make a part 2 to this video? Right now hardware wise im pretty good, but my klipper game needs much work.
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@@WildRoseBuilds Again, this guide was a tremendous help getting my new printer up and running. I'm about to switch from PLA to PETG. Would following this same routine make sense? I know the temps are changed from the PLA I was using to the ranged for the PETG I'm using. Just wasn't sure if it makes sense to follow these same steps or not.
Neptune 4 max here.
I was just looking to calibrate all the stuff again properly now. After 2 weeks of playing with it.
It's pretty accurate right out of the box but i'm now dealing with some blobs and zits on large arcs.
I learned a lot and also will try the orca slicer now. Thanks :D
Agreed. Neptune 4 Max been printing on for less than a week. Went thru all of this today and the settings were super close to ideal out of the box.
I am getting blobs as well with the 4 max, did this video help with it
Perfect timing I was just about to tune my Neptune 4 Plus! Thanks man!!!
No problem!! Let me know how your tuning goes!
Thanks! I was literally planning on doing this tonight but didn't know what order to run the Orca Slicer calibrations. Now I know!
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!
I just got my Neptune 4 Plus today! Already finished the test filament inside and I'm waiting for the new filaments to arrive. I will try these thank you! Also, It might be a good idea to heat the bed even before the manual leveling
I actually waited til this weekend (received my brand new Neptune 4 Max back in Nov 23'.) Decided to wait for upgraded firmware and components (Linear Rails X/Y/Z and upgraded Hotend "MicroSwiss Flowtech") Couldn't be happier and going thru this tuning will make it a breeze to get thru my 3 Main Filament choices (PLA+/PETG/PET-CF). This testing also pointed out a few flaws in my install so far (such as un-greased linear rails causing massive X-axis jumps), all of which a bit of grease/oil smoothed out. Can't wait to get back into this though, my Ender 3V2 will also likely get the treatment as I transition that machine to Linear Rails and Orcaslicer.
Elegoo should be paying you for this video 😁 😁 excellent information.
Thanks so much, I recently bought a Neptune 4 Pro printer and printed the tests that came on the flash drive without any problems, but after that, everything changed. I'll follow your tutorial and see if I can get good prints using the Orca Slicer. Thanks
Thank you so much for your neptune 4 videos, all of them have been helpful for neptune and klipper noobs.
is there any chance you could make a part 2 for your first video "How to Tune The Elegoo Neptune 4 Klipper 3D Printer for Better Print Quality (Step-by-Step Guide)"?? Ive been trying to learn more about klipper and add more stuff to it like different macros, screw tilt adjust, and probe calibrate so im not constantly messing with z offset.
ive suggested that video to a lot of people on reddit and it's been a lifesaver for us klipper noobs but Id love to learn more and your teaching style is so easy to follow. Plus there's so much to learn on the klipper3d website but I understand not everything is compatible with the elegoo version of klipper so Im mainly wondering about what other cool stuff that can be done with
Anyway Im subbed so im praying you end up making a part 2. The cool things to print videos are another of my favs not
Glad these videos help! A lot of the klipper site stuff SHOULD work for these printers, but yes a Part 2 with some more tips and tricks sounds like a great idea. thanks for the recommendation! :)
I really appreciate this video. Word of advice: you don't "times" a number by another number. You multiply. Some people I know, not me, but others, tune out immediately when they hear the presenter doesn't speak the language properly.
I especially liked the bit about calibrating on the X and Y -- no one has explained it that well, and it was very helpful.
Thank you for this. I'm pretty new to 3d printing and this helps a lot.
Glad it was helpful!
I have been printing on my Elegoo Neptune plus 4 for about a year now, you showed me some things I never knew, sadly I have been using the manufacture suggested Cura slicer this whole time :(
thanks for an amazingly detailed video!
Where were you 8 months ago when I got elegoo 4 Plus 😊😊😊
Thank you for this!
Thanks for this video. This is my first printer. I purchased it because my son was begging for this. Now we cant seem to print anything but the samples that come on the usb. I am going to go step by step tomorrow and hopefully this eorks out. Thanks again.
Update. Your walkthrough was very helpful and I was able to get my first print. I still have some tuning but I would still be nowhere without this tutorial. Thanks again.
my -5 at first pass was almost perfect, almost as if it went through ironing. So i've inserted 0.95 before the second test, was this a good call or should I recalibrate based on 1.0?
Are you using elegoo PLA? Also my Neptune 4 pro doesn't have built in input shaping, any recommendations?
Yes elegoo pla! I have had great results with it and they’re starting to make some cool silk and bicolor filaments as well that print good. For input shaping on the 4 I’d look into a usb accelerometer, I think big tree tech makes one for very cheap! You can also visit the klipper website where they document a manual tuning test for resonance compensation. Thanks for watching!
When i run the retraction calibration, my printer starts to begin heating up the nozzle and bed, but shortly after, it resets the print head position and says, "System is currently starting, please wait". It never runs the calibration. All of the other calibration tests work fine.. any ideas what's going on?
I changed the end retraction length to 5 and it solved my issue hope this helps.
A really useful video, thanks. But despite what your title says the Neptune 4 Pro doesn't have the option for input shape tuning or PID calibration in it's advanced setting menu. As far as I'm aware this model doesn't ship with the accelerometer required to achieve the former anyway. Now if you could upload a video showing how this could be achieved with the 4 Pro (maybe using a USB accelerometer), that would be most appreciated.
Hey thanks for the heads up on this, I didn’t realize I had put the pro in the title, I’ll remove that. For the pro you can read the klipper documentation and follow their steps to do a manual resonance calibration test print with no need for an accelerometer. There’s also a command that can be issued through the fluid interface in the console to tune pid. Hope that helps!
Thanks a lot for a good video
Glad you liked it
@@WildRoseBuilds question on pressure advance. you take 0.02*23=0.46 and you write down 0.046 where did the extra 0 come from?
My neptune 4 PRO has software version 1.1.2.41 and the motors are 1.2A I want to upgrade and formatted a few memory sticks with FAT32 and copied the files from fixpack to the root of memory stick. I inserted the stick and started the machine nothing happened when I go to setting and about machine I pressed the up arrow at the bottom of machine and message shows update failed put all files in the root of the stick {which I did} I tried 3 different memory sticks including the one supplied with the machine when I directly use the firmware update file instead of the FIXpack it is the same. Your video is perfect to upgrade my Printer thank you
I think I have gone through 3 iterations of the guide but in the end I am still having issues with my prints, mostly i think extrusion and pressure issues because i don't get a lot of stringin on any calibration print.
i want this printer but im afraid of it breaking or needing lots of money,, did they fix the issues? firmware and stuff
Have this setting to be done for every different filament?
best video ever.
Pls add timestamps in description for better navigation
this video should be more advisable by yt algorit than you.bro❤
the algo h8s me :(
Followed your instructions and was3 able to install Klipper. Problem is that every file I try to upload and print, I get a "unable to open file". Any help ??
What slicer are you using? Is your profile setup correctly and exporting a .gcode file type? how's the wifi signal to your printer, this has caused me some issues as a file transfer will timeout sometimes and cause that error!
this was a very informative video
well fck i never knew elegoo developped their own slicer, back in the day it was cura edited with elegoo parameter and i still use that XD. but yeah looks like a huge update in terms of slicer. PS : there is also the tolerance tunning if u want to make precise parts
Technically it’s not made by elegoo but it’s brand agnostic which is nice. It’s open source and based on slic3r similar to Bambu studio and prusa slicer. The tolerance test is more of a test and less for tuning. Great for knowing what tolerance you need for snap fit part designing tho 😉 thanks for watching!
Man my most paintful part of this printer that i love is the fan! Noisey but the silent mode doesnt work on my printer. Its loud then silent mode is turned on but it last for 5 seconds before going back to normal and being loud again
There’s a switch on top of the external fans to turn them off. I’ve heard people say they get pretty good results without them. But yes it’s a bit of a loud printer 🥵
What time-lapse program do you use?
Thank you so much!!!!!
Used the exact same printer with teh same settings and filament. Done all the steps as mentioned and i'm having trouble with the 1st pass flow test. It clears the nozzle and then proceeds to make the outline but once it starts to make the first sample it spews filament everywhere and clog up. I tried relevelling and calibrating 3 times and it wont sort it. I have printed things before this and it worked fine. I was going ot dial in my settings using this video but it is not working. please help
Sounds like your flow rate might be improperly set? Double check in your settings that it’s at 1.0. Some slicers use a percentage for flow but orca slicer uses a whole number.
Thank you @WildRoseBuilds for your reply to that question. I am having the same problems and am currently working on the Z offset. I
Well done. Thanks
is the flow rate different on all printers even if they are the same model
Yes! Things like ambient temperature, filament type, and extruder idler pressure are all different even on the same machines and play a role in flow rate.
how to reduce the prominent layers though? i guess layer height
Yeah layer height will do this. I tune for .16mm which gives relatively good results without taking days to print.
Hi! Do I need to change the flow rate after testing or leave it at 1?
I would also like to know.
@WildRoseBuilds can you do a video about input shaping for neptun 4 series
I got rid of all of my elegoo machines last year for Bambu lab machines. Best decision I have ever made
i mean u pay more u get better toys seams kinda logical to me. I have elegoo printer at home and bambu lab at school so i have both :D
Bambu is good printer, but Neptune 4 MAX, size, perfection....I can print everything.....
@@draganmilinkovic6189 ye but tolerance are a bit more random
I’ll take my three elegoos for less than the price of one Bambu.
@@anthonygrimaldi9483 yep, you sound like someone who still hasnt switched to bambulab. Ignorance is bliss I guess?
I would not touch rotation distance and rather play with extrusion multiplier for different settings
Good video. Too bad I can't add it to my playlist.
THX :)
Blimey the testing and code changing looks complex to a newbie like me in klipper stuff? I got the Neptune 4 Plus and without any of this stuff I get good prints now!
The bit about the Orca slicer, I downloaded it and installed it on a windows 11 laptop, it just don't see the printer on my network at all? My fluidd sees the printer and shows it printing though, But the slicer don't see the printer at all?
I set it in the slider too. The local IP is right for the network as the fluidd sees the printer. My printer has the newest update too.
I tried Cura and Prusa Slicer and both have the printer listed to add to the system which I do, But again Fluidd sees the printer But neither slicer sees it just like Orca don't.
I having to do the old way of record the files on to the Thumb drive and put that in the printer to print.
Also the Logitech C270 HD webcam I brought for the printer will not work when plugged in to either the full USB slot or the USB C slot by a USB adapter stick on the printer.
It does work on the PC after the software was installed. So why not on the printer or the network when on the printer USB?
And oddly the printer will print a model fine then when I see the screen on the printer pad it will have a error saying re-set the file system by clicking the icon on the screen?
I do and the printer clears that error and will print fine again.
It also won't let me do any Vibration tests without a error! I have to restart or refresh the Klipper firmware!
Any ideas why all this trouble even though the printing is fine.
First comment!
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don't remodel your house ever. It helps that your house looks like a normal house
couldn't agree more thanks!
Take the distance of the Earth from the Sun and divide that by the distance of the Earth to the moon. Then take the square root of the exact distance of our Sun to the nearest star in our Galaxy and multiply those two numbers. Now take that number and divide it by 100 and throw your printer off of the fuc*ing roof of the tallest building you can find... It should now print well enough to look good when you squint at it from a distance...