Don't worry it's not actually stable lol. Nothing is stable unless it can pass at least an hour of Antas Extreme on TestMem5 or at the very least an hour of Usmus V3 on TestMem5. It also needs to pass 1 hour of OCCT Avx2 Vaiable Large Stress Test. Anything under is not remotely close to stable. Cinebench R23 is a joke.
lol its not stable, theres a reason why he only showed ya and didnt run and actual test on the ram. hes also running a custom version of windows, so over all hes leaving alot of information out.
Noice! Could I bother you for an advice? I got the 2x32gb 6400 gskill and learned about the PMIC missing thermal pad.. How high do you think I could get them without taking the stock rads off?
What would be a modest OC for some gaming performance gains for a 13900k with SP104 and 7200 mhz CL34 vengeance ram? I want to OC my ram, p-cores and e-cores but not sure what a solid middleground would be. Any tips or recommendations on core ratios, ram frequency, and voltage? Any advice would be greatly appreciated :)
Hey duders - AWESOME. I am still on 32GB GSkill 7600 CL36 but I picked up a Z790 Apex. I can post and run 8200 CL36 but it's not stable in Karhu. Any advice?
Memory is super temp sensitive. Keep the ram under 38C. You can probably get it daily gaming and app stable 100%. Stability testing is always gonna be tough on air cooling! Because ram slowly heats up and eventually spits errors. You need water cooling for ram to pass these long stability testing apps when it’s outside of an XMP profile most of the time.
@@videocardzrule354 No doubt! I design a 140mm DIMM fan bracket and am 3D Printing it now - can send you the file if you'd like. What water blocks will you go with?
is it safe to copy your settings on my rig? CPU: I91400KF Motherboard: Gigabyte z790 Xtreme X RAM: G.Skill Trident z5 DDR5 8600MHZ GPU: Nvidia 3090 i have 6 intake fans and 3 exhaust fans whenever i try to run my XMP profile my games crash blue screen
is it possible for you to send me your "preset" of bios ? i got and 14900KF with 8.000 Mhz ram maybe i cant just load your preset cause i am noob to do OC Thanks in advance
Bro how can I set my 7600mhz ram to even 7000 ? Because my pc doesn’t boot for every speed above 6000! I have the asus rog maximus z790 formula and i9 14900k
I would do this. Make sure fast boot is disabled. Apply 1.400 to your CPU IMC, and 1.400V to your CPU IVR TX/CPU VDDQ. Send the normal XMP voltage to your memory. And slowly work up in steps. Apply XMP, but manually set 7200 then try 7400, then try 7600. You need the board to slow train. And motherboards automatically like to quickly train timings for a faster boot. Plus, your CPU IMC may not be good enough, your motherboard may not be good enough. I have seen a 13900K that wouldn’t do 8000 reliably even on an Apex, and it had a dud IMC. 🤷♂️
Yo boss i can’t even run 7800mhz stable even if supported by mb and ram itself. Xmp ready 3.0 and ram speed is also 7800 so its blue screening after a while so. Running 6666mhz without any prob
MY friend said with Apex encore z790 with i9 14900kf + Gskill 8400 2x24GB sticks cant go higher than 8000MHZ. They will not stable and neeed a very very big lucky for these upgrades. What you think? Is it truth?
It’s not true. I managed to get DDR5 8200 C36 stable pretty easily with my DDR5 7200 2x24GB sticks just fine. 8000 is much easier than 8200. I will say that, I had an even easier time in my white Apex. But so far I’m running DDR5 8600c40 on either it’s been tested stable for about 2 hours in TM5 which is good enough for me.
I’d say, the real stability is ir you can run YC VST+VT3 for 8 cycles and test retrain stability. Then 20 cycles (90 min). TM5 will catch timings errors and some bad trainings voltages. It helps to fix some issues. karhu will cache CPU side error. But Ycruncher or PI 2.5 if doesn’t run, it’s not stable. At that high speed you should have to set RTTs, RONs, DFE, find connections between VDDQ (mem to CPU (TX)) and Vref also. I have an encore, 2x24 8200, I could have a stable config at 8400. 8600 is to boot and see videos, but I would crash at some time if your IMC and your men’s aren’t well connected. My 2c
Not trying to be offensive, but maybe you're not well informed as to how little latency changes (in "ns" value) for the amount of tuning required? 51ns is pretty darn good @ 8600MHz
@@PainIs4ThaWeak85 51 is not good. 8600Mhz is a 20% increase in speed vs 7200Mhz. He also uses a 13900KS. The cache is running at like 5Ghz compared to my 13600K which is at 4.5Ghz. He should be below 50ns
@od1sseas663 Blame it on the architecture then. You're not going to see many people getting sub 50ns at that speed/IC capacity. If bandwidth wasn't a concern in the market, we'd still be using the low latency/low bandwidth of previous architectures. ... But maybe I'm just spouting nonsense, and YOU can school ME on how many people are running 2x24gb @8600mhz with lower than 50ns latency?
Considering he doesn't use TestMem5 Usmus c3 or OCCT or Y-Cruncher to validate any of his claims yep. Any z790 Apex will boot and run 9,000 MTs and run Aids64 benchmark. I don't think he cares about "actual" stability.
@@ryanlowery9081 Remember that I my self was the actual stability tester. Not an app. And the reason behind this was because I ran air cooled ram, no way I’m passing actual ram testing with those sticks going over 50-60C easily. Looking back on this video I’m impressed I was even running this daily. And it worked in all of my apps and games.
8600MHz at CL36, that's a latency of 8.37ns compared to the original of 10ns, this man is on a whole another level💀
Don't worry it's not actually stable lol. Nothing is stable unless it can pass at least an hour of Antas Extreme on TestMem5 or at the very least an hour of Usmus V3 on TestMem5. It also needs to pass 1 hour of OCCT Avx2 Vaiable Large Stress Test. Anything under is not remotely close to stable. Cinebench R23 is a joke.
lol its not stable, theres a reason why he only showed ya and didnt run and actual test on the ram. hes also running a custom version of windows, so over all hes leaving alot of information out.
Noice! Could I bother you for an advice? I got the 2x32gb 6400 gskill and learned about the PMIC missing thermal pad.. How high do you think I could get them without taking the stock rads off?
I would also be very interested to see your tweeks! I’m trying to get 8400 and can’t pass any memory tests for more than 5-10 minutes.
Nice! I got some A die and recently purchased a 13900ks with a sp of 116 overall can't wait to see what it can do on this ASRock z790i lightning.
Commented on one of your other videos but was wondering do you offer cpu delid service?
Nice job! Have you run an extended memtest on this config? Can we see in the DRAM Timing Control menu?
I'd be curious to see what the secondaries and tertiaries are here, or if they were left on "auto".
I’m uploading another video right now with my timings, and gameplay!
Awesome stuff man 🔥
Its not stable dont get deceived :D
What would be a modest OC for some gaming performance gains for a 13900k with SP104 and 7200 mhz CL34 vengeance ram? I want to OC my ram, p-cores and e-cores but not sure what a solid middleground would be. Any tips or recommendations on core ratios, ram frequency, and voltage? Any advice would be greatly appreciated :)
Great video
Nice video, bro.
Cl36? Also, what’s the adaptive svid - 0. Something you didn’t there? What’s that voltage gonna be ?
Curious your opinion on the ripjaw s5 kit. Same timings and everything as the trident z5. So looks like the same memory without rgb. Nice video
Yep those will work! It’s all the same stuff. Happy overclocking.
which motherboard did u use?
That coil whine though lol
have you check that 4x 48GB of ram is works fine of 5600MHZ stabile ? can you test it?
DRAM VDD @ 1.55 volts and VDDQ @ 1.5 - wouldn’t be really comfortable with that. Would also be interesting to see a run of MemTest86+.
Hey duders - AWESOME. I am still on 32GB GSkill 7600 CL36 but I picked up a Z790 Apex. I can post and run 8200 CL36 but it's not stable in Karhu. Any advice?
Memory is super temp sensitive. Keep the ram under 38C. You can probably get it daily gaming and app stable 100%. Stability testing is always gonna be tough on air cooling! Because ram slowly heats up and eventually spits errors. You need water cooling for ram to pass these long stability testing apps when it’s outside of an XMP profile most of the time.
@@videocardzrule354 No doubt! I design a 140mm DIMM fan bracket and am 3D Printing it now - can send you the file if you'd like. What water blocks will you go with?
is it safe to copy your settings on my rig?
CPU: I91400KF
Motherboard: Gigabyte z790 Xtreme X
RAM: G.Skill Trident z5 DDR5 8600MHZ
GPU: Nvidia 3090
i have 6 intake fans and 3 exhaust fans
whenever i try to run my XMP profile my games crash blue screen
show the full timings and voltages plz
Im running the exact same memory kit. I run mine at 38-48-48-138 @1.4v at 8400
Have you tried 8600 yet? Very solid so far, and extremely surprising since these are G.Skill 7200 (2x24GB) sticks. Been running daily for a week now.
is it possible for you to send me your "preset" of bios ?
i got and 14900KF with 8.000 Mhz ram
maybe i cant just load your preset cause i am noob to do OC
Thanks in advance
Forgot to show your timings used.
Bro how can I set my 7600mhz ram to even 7000 ? Because my pc doesn’t boot for every speed above 6000! I have the asus rog maximus z790 formula and i9 14900k
what timings did you run? Can you show these? thanks
38-52-52-52-139-740
tREFI is 262,000
Dang I never thought the new 24GB stuff can run this fast.
Its AWESOME
Hynix 3 GiB M-die ICs at work there.
Hello could you please put on-line a txt profile of your bios please please or show the tvb section and cpu Internal power management
Thanks
and the cmo profile also :)
Have you tested it for stability?
probably not :D they think if its boot its stable...xd
38,52,52,52 130? or 138?
Im running i9 13900kf same kit with msi z790 tomohawk WiFi can’t get past 7200 MHz why is that stock xmp 7600 won’t even even boot
I would do this. Make sure fast boot is disabled. Apply 1.400 to your CPU IMC, and 1.400V to your CPU IVR TX/CPU VDDQ. Send the normal XMP voltage to your memory. And slowly work up in steps. Apply XMP, but manually set 7200 then try 7400, then try 7600. You need the board to slow train. And motherboards automatically like to quickly train timings for a faster boot. Plus, your CPU IMC may not be good enough, your motherboard may not be good enough. I have seen a 13900K that wouldn’t do 8000 reliably even on an Apex, and it had a dud IMC. 🤷♂️
Nice cpu :)
Love from Nizzen @ OCN ❤
That’s my low dog SP104!! 🙂
Cant overclock at Asus Rog Strix z790-e, max 6800-7000mhz from 6400 adata xpg 32-39-39-89.
Yep motherboard limited. You need an Apex.
Yo boss i can’t even run 7800mhz stable even if supported by mb and ram itself. Xmp ready 3.0 and ram speed is also 7800 so its blue screening after a while so. Running 6666mhz without any prob
Got mine at 8200 xmp1 with 1.35v...8600 thats amazing maybe ill try it on mine
on apex?
Yes...stock 8000mhz timings
@@foxmino i Wonder if its possible to reach 8000 on "standart" z790 boards
These 8000mhz memories really only work on 2 slot dimm z790 motherboards...Apex,Evga z790 Kingpin or Gigabytes TACHYON
can my mainboard run this? i have the asus rog maximus z790 hero
no
Aint no way this is stable
no its not they think if it boot its stable xd
I don't believe this is stable 24/7. I run bench with this settings but it is not stable
OMG ! This voltages is death for ddr5...
MY friend said with Apex encore z790 with i9 14900kf + Gskill 8400 2x24GB sticks cant go higher than 8000MHZ. They will not stable and neeed a very very big lucky for these upgrades. What you think? Is it truth?
It’s not true. I managed to get DDR5 8200 C36 stable pretty easily with my DDR5 7200 2x24GB sticks just fine. 8000 is much easier than 8200. I will say that, I had an even easier time in my white Apex. But so far I’m running DDR5 8600c40 on either it’s been tested stable for about 2 hours in TM5 which is good enough for me.
@@videocardzrule354 thanks for help.
I’d say, the real stability is ir you can run YC VST+VT3 for 8 cycles and test retrain stability. Then 20 cycles (90 min). TM5 will catch timings errors and some bad trainings voltages. It helps to fix some issues. karhu will cache CPU side error. But Ycruncher or PI 2.5 if doesn’t run, it’s not stable. At that high speed you should have to set RTTs, RONs, DFE, find connections between VDDQ (mem to CPU (TX)) and Vref also. I have an encore, 2x24 8200, I could have a stable config at 8400. 8600 is to boot and see videos, but I would crash at some time if your IMC and your men’s aren’t well connected. My 2c
Nan mais ton truc sert à rien ..
Tu veux 8600 avec 7200, c'est instable Mec.
Prend 8600 pour 8600 stable OC.
51ns doesn't seem impressive at those speeds tbh. Im getting 53ns with 7200MhzC34
Not trying to be offensive, but maybe you're not well informed as to how little latency changes (in "ns" value) for the amount of tuning required? 51ns is pretty darn good @ 8600MHz
@@PainIs4ThaWeak85 51 is not good. 8600Mhz is a 20% increase in speed vs 7200Mhz. He also uses a 13900KS. The cache is running at like 5Ghz compared to my 13600K which is at 4.5Ghz. He should be below 50ns
@od1sseas663 Blame it on the architecture then. You're not going to see many people getting sub 50ns at that speed/IC capacity.
If bandwidth wasn't a concern in the market, we'd still be using the low latency/low bandwidth of previous architectures.
... But maybe I'm just spouting nonsense, and YOU can school ME on how many people are running 2x24gb @8600mhz with lower than 50ns latency?
@PainIs4ThaWeak85 He just has loose timings, that's why his latency is that bad. It's not only about the speed you donut
can u share ur memory profile?
BRO 7400+ is not even stable
do it for 7800mhz xmp I'm daring u
What do you want me to run?
G.skill 7800mhz on a z790-h I can't go further 7200mhz@@videocardzrule354
If u can really fix my problem I'm gonna pray to u everyday@@videocardzrule354
go testmem 5.. i think it is not stable
I don’t have that cpu or ram anymore.
Did not even stress test them so safe to say not stable at all.
About as stable as a mental patient.
Considering he doesn't use TestMem5 Usmus c3 or OCCT or Y-Cruncher to validate any of his claims yep. Any z790 Apex will boot and run 9,000 MTs and run Aids64 benchmark. I don't think he cares about "actual" stability.
@@ryanlowery9081
Remember that I my self was the actual stability tester. Not an app. And the reason behind this was because I ran air cooled ram, no way I’m passing actual ram testing with those sticks going over 50-60C easily. Looking back on this video I’m impressed I was even running this daily. And it worked in all of my apps and games.