TIPS that really help to get a better SMASH!
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
- Yes this is another video about the smash, but also so much more because in my eyes it covers one of the most useful tools for learning any motor skill and it changed my whole approach to coaching and teaching.
All the cues I talk about can be transferred to all other shots, and if you understand the concept of external cues and the endposition of shots you will easily find examples and keypoints for every other technique you want to coach or master.
About the endposition:
In the video I talk about the end position of the smash and point out, that the racket should be infront of your dominant body side. In a match, and when you combine your smash with more movement and footwork, there will also be different endpositions. So for example on a scissor jump you will also see players where the racket swings across the body on the other side. In one of the videos with Yuta Watanabe you can see the total opposite where the racket and arm bounce back to his left side (he is lefthander). So keep in mind, that the arm position in a match can variate, what always stays the same is the rebound of the racket when players hit with maximum power and a lot of rotation
About internal and external cues:
Do I never use internal cues? No, I use them a lot! Many times I think they are very helpful or also necessary, especially if you have to fix a certain part of a movement, but often I realize afterwards, that external cues would have been a better option. If you are a coach and if you give external cues a try I think you will also feel the tendency of falling back to internal cues a lot, as it is what most of us are used to, but I made so many great experiences with the new approach and I think many of you will too!
References:
Here you find the Podcast Episode that I was talking about: www.sportsmith.co/listen/pace...
But you can also find a great presentation of Nick Winkelman on CZcams: • The Language of Coachi...
And one last big recommendation: His book the language of coaching: amzn.to/46Cis8m - Sport
my favourite badminton coach on CZcams back at it again giving crisp clear while still staying respectable to our time with these short videos! Thanks Coach!
Tobias is absolutely on the right track. As an old, very old, national senior champion, I have something to tell you. I started my badminton in the 60's at the age of 25. Since the start I have heard many completely different and even contradictory explanations of the technique. At the beginning NOBODY talked about the rotation. It was first in the 70's that the term was mentioned after high speed videos had shown the phenomenon. And that was a revelation. I studied it by myself and since then, as a self made player, I had multiple national championships and even silver in Nordic championships. Well, these are not the goal of my life, they are elsewhere. I say this to warn you about coaches. In most cases, when they start talking, there is only one thing to do, that is to run. But not in Tobias's case.
So much smash coaching comes across as a beginner's guide on how to smash, yet the difference between smashes of people that can smash is massive. Nice to see you're trying to get at this.
The most helpful, realistic approach to a good smash, well done Tobi 👍
And those are different approaches presented in a clear manner! Well done once again, Toby!❤
I’m re-watching this video. These tips are actually extremely helpful. By focusing on the results, you can gauge whether you are executing right or wrong.
Thanks for the good tutorial! 👍Found an easier way to remember it > 3S
1. Sound
2. Steepnest
3. Start and end position
Smart! Thanks, I will remember that one ;)
Wow! This really is a new approach to fix bad smashes! And I really think this is easier to apply and would help a lot of people. Respect.
Thank you so much for your crisp and clear instructions for powerful smash!!!
didn't know the clue to identify the lack of rotation in point 3, it's golden, thank you !
Thank you for being so detailed, Tobias! Not many trainers are able to explain the basic swing movement for clears/smashes, they just do it well (and they have no idea how :D)
It is worth my waiting time so much! Thank you Tobi!
Really nice video, I could also see the reasoning why you used external cues because the results are easier to be noted as an indicator of good smash as opposed to internal cues. Thanks coach! Will try this out
I realise now, that I corrected my smashes over the years, just by listening and trying to hit a clean shot every time, and this is the first time someone has pointed it out. Feels so good, that i was on the right track :) Thank you Tobi :)
Love your approach, simple, easy to understand and very effective💪
Excellent video. Im a casual player trying to improve my smash, these cues are easily digestible and easy to follow. Thank you
This is a great coaching video. Everyone has to know what to achieve and how to begin. Let your body do the work to achieve that goal! Awesome video
Thank you! =)
Really nice video - the external focus is new to me, so I look forward to trying it out 😊
this is a very interesting approach to teaching badminton. Focusing not so much on the individual fragmented movements, but rather judging the end results which in turn promotes more experimentation with purpose. I think it works for a specific audience like me who has basics i.e grip, general movement down but is still stuck with not enough power or angle
This is easily the most useful, and replicable smash advice I've ever seen on CZcams. I'm sitting on my sofa and I can fully visualise the changes I need to make to my swing to improve my smash. All of the advice I've ever received is to increase forearm rotation but when you're trying to implement that within the existing framework of your movement, it's pretty much impossible. Focussing on the start and end position rather than the movement itself is so simple and elegant, I can't wait to give this a try. Just wish I hadn't watched this video when I'm injured 😁
Thanks for the great feedback! Hope you have recovered by now. If yes I am curious: did the tips help you when you got back on court? 🙂
@@tobiaswadenka8435 I have been back on the court but I now have tennis elbow so am holding off from trying this out properly. I have shown it to other people who've said it helps though!
The last tip is actually the best tip i'v ever seen on the internet till this day. Def worth a follow
Thank you! =)
Took me 3 years of 5 days/week training and 1 year tennis elbow to understand this. And you! You explain this in just 10 minutes? You are the best coach i love you.
Awesome refreshing take on badminton mechanics and insight....THANKS
Fantastic video. Will use the cues in my practice.
Absolutely interesting points. Thanks!
That tips really help me understand it better... Great video
super interesting approach👍
Thank you so much Tobias!! Will definitely try this approach on my next training session, I think I'm quite hopeless case when it comes to smash. But what you've said and showed here looks like it makes a looot of sense! Best wishes!!
Awesome thank you! Keep trying and let me know if the video helps 😊
WOW THANK YOU SO MUCH!! Now my swing sounds a lot faster if I bounce the racket back like you said compared to full swinging to side of my body (like how my dad taught me). Can't wait to test it on court!!!
Awesome form of coaching. Espescially useful i think for badminton tips through video, as they are more general and easy to use and practice on your own. Would love more of the same for other areas including some good external cues 😁👍
Brilliant video Tobias. Very insightful.
Thank you 🙂
Thank you! very useful tips!
Totally agree with point 2 about not focusing on the height : higher is not better if it's too high for you, not only for smash, but for all shots.
Also, hitting the shuttle a bit lower than "optimised height" enables you to always hit it at the same height even when you're little bit late ; in the end, you're more consistent in your shots.
I understand your point. But where I play, I've seen many people wait for the shuttle to come to them, rather than going to the shuttle even when they got time (maybe I also do that). When they could've played a smash or steep drop, they rather have to play a flat drive like smash since the shuttle is already at the waist level. (PS. I'm talking about doubles, at singles you maybe need to be more cautious)
@@nil_90 no no no, flat drive = fewer attack points
Very nice and more natural way to explain it. Thanks.
Thank you 😊
Thank you for your advice
That's a really great angle to teaching a smash 😮❤
No doubt one of my favorite coaches on youtube. Another tip from my country 1st ranked MD beside sound of impact. If you hit smash but still bit of slide the shuttle, when shuttle land it’s more likely spin on the ground not pumped up like normal pro player watched on bwf.
Das ist ein sehr erfrischender Ansatz. Und auch mit Sicherheit einer der viel besser von Übenden umgesetzt werden kann.
Das hier ist High Quality Content den ich sehen möchte ❤
Vielen Dank. Und wie im Video angesprochen habe ich mit den externen cues viel bessere Erfahrungen gemacht als mit den isolierten Standard tips die ich vorher immer genutzt habe
This is soo realistic and practical❤
love these videos! good stuff, thank you
Best badminton smash learning video anywhere
Amazing video man! I feel this goes well with the internal cues paired together.
Yes, I think internal cues are very helpful when you want to work on details or when players struggle with a specific element of the shot
Great info as always...keep up the brilliant work 👍
Thank you 😊
Thank u coach. Ur teachings are invaluable. Hope u ready this tobias
great advice, thank you
You always make such quality content.I can't believe you are still underrated..You deserve way more subscribers 🖤
Thank you so much =)
Thank you so much! Danke schön!
Thank you 😊 you have good explanation then others
Thanks Coach ☺️🎉
Sir your lesson are always useful
Du bist ne Legende! 💪🏼
You hv added lots of value!
This is what we want
Sound is an interesting point as the echo in the hall you are playing in makes a big difference on the sound, although the idea is right as the most efficient and powerful smash is one with a flat-on contact after the rotation, rather than at an angle, which will create a louder sound.
I've watched a lot of videos on the proper technique of hitting a shuttlecock, not necessary smashes. Yours is the one that contains the missing details that pretty much all other missed, especially the final key point about the rotation. I've had so many experienced players telling me the rotation isn't where the power is, but looking our video, it seems to point out that rotation, in combination with all the other movements originating from your back foot to the hip and shoulder, is also key in generating power.
Thank you! For me those keys really made a huge difference and I hope they also will for many others!
Thank you!
Danke! Für mich die Macht der 3. Stimme! Seit 1995 arbeite ich mit Gallwey und Punkt 1 und 2 in der Didaktik ist genau das was den Fortschritt so stark beschleunigt!
Danke Berend 😊
Long time no see! Thank you Tobias. Great advice as usual!
Thank you. Yeah, enjoying a lot of family time right now but I will also try to post more videos again in the future
Neat findings Tobias sensei.
Wouldn't be a good idea to ask the pros how they learned the shot?
I saw videos of YYS from Korea and Fu Haifeng from China teaching different movements that explains forgotten aspects of training too.
YYS described the weight transfer, Fu H. explained the importance to practice correct movement before even hitting and build up core strength to apply that weight transfer.
The position relative to the shuttle is something Kenishi Tago taught more recently with some exercise to be in good position for the smash. (that impact steepness and recovery)
Genau was ich gebraucht habe👍
Thanks Tobias
Tobi, awesome!!! Thanks a lot. You’re an intelligent coach. I enjoy all your videos.
Greetings from Berlin,
Ajay
Thank you so much Ajay 🤩
Hello Tobias. Could you please make a full jump smash tutorial. It is challenging to understand the sequence of movements like the leg kick and hip rotation and landing on the left leg first.
This should up when I searched for Smash Bros tips. Nice.
Thanks Tobias. What a coincidence that a few days ago I've just seen a different video also about smashing technique, mentioned the same thing related to the end position of forearm rotations.
Ah cool, here on CZcams or somewhere else?
@@tobiaswadenka8435 a youtube channel of a Korean coach, I forgot the name though. He mentioned the recoil from a very quick forearm rotation will eventually help "reseting" the racket head position (pointing upward), hence better prepare for the next shot.
I've just re-watch a few Goh V Shem smashing clips and find what you and that coach mentioned were spot on!
@@ndkhoa2812 think it is coach Han , “full-swing BDMT” channel on YT.
Brilliant video! Countdown to when other badminton channels are gonna start giving the same advice haha… Your videos keep getting better every time! ❤
Haha let's see. Thank you for your kind words 😊
My favorite hobby
Good video
Thanks
PLEASES DO SOME RACKETS REVIEWS .
YOU GOT THE BEST INSIGHTGFUL BADMINTON CONTENT ON CZcams .❤❤❤
I thought you would talk about fingers. 9/10 would not talk about fingers and I was once told that it’s the key to powerful smashes.
Never seen a better badminton Coach than yourself sir . Tq so much
Thank you, much appreciated =)
The one more thing I would add is "aiming at the top of the net"
The end product would be that the shuffle just flies over the top of net to reach the opponent, that shall provide the steepest angle for smashing
Nice different point of view
GOOD!
This vidoe is excellent and I have been using these kinds of external cues over last 5 years. That’s when I started playing badminton and since I have no coaching in my area the external cues helps me the most
So my question is on the last one , certainly you can create just as much power without the rebounding action , correct ?
Is it more so that if you do the rebounding action that you can be 100% sure that you are using forearm rotation?
Hey Tobias! An idea for a new video: Weighing how to watch the shuttlecock at the moment of impact, while having a good idea of where to place the shot (based on the opponents location)
VEry good ! do you have any external cues for footwork ?
Great video! Always wondered about that sound when I play with friends and figured it out on my own eventually. I still mostly do "slicing" smashes and maybe 1/10 times do the sound 2 smash and I confirmed I've been doing it wrong since a badminton varsity friend of mine complimented me when I got a point with "That was a nice smash I didn't expect a sliced smash". I definitely did not intentionally slice that shot 🤣. Also the point where the racket should be facing upwards instead of to the side after a smash really got me. I always thought that there should be a "follow through" action in an overhead shot or a smash - that follow through being the racket on to the side. I've watched a lot of smashes in 0.25x and I've been confused for about a year now on what a good smash should really be as they all the pros seem to be doing that rubber band whip motion after a smash but it confliced with my "follow through" thinking. Good to hear all these information and confirmation from someone who's amazing in badminton. Keep up the good work
I have the same thing, I always smash sliced. I think it's my grip being 'wrong', but using the correct grip people tell me feels too loose like there is some space between my hand and grip. Don't want the racket to go flying across the hall.
thank you for the tips coach Tobias!!
Nice one
Great video Tobias, I love the style of the video: more towards other coaches than towards players.
It is so easy to fall back into internal coaching since that is the basic knowledge of a stroke, while external is so much more in general use (for example with a net kill, your "racket high" is a different height of your strings than the racket high of a 11 year old).
But how do you choose to do internal or external at a player?
Usually I try to start with external cues or broad internal cues so players always work with the full movement. If there are certain elements that don't get better after several repetitions I zoom in and use more internal cues. I think also use more internal cues with very experienced players that also have a good understanding what they do and when I want to change specific elements of there technique. But in general I think I still do internal cues too often, as the external cues can be way more effective
This is a really good video. As a teacher myself, I can see the amount of thought and research you put into this. External cues as you put it is focusing on the outcome and not so much on the details in the process. When too much attention is placed on the details in the process, it affects the outcome. By focusing on the outcome, we can self-check and correct ourselves until we get the feel of the complete and fluid motion. Thank you, Tobias. This is indeed a good insight into not only smashing, but the art of learning and coaching
Thanks a lot! If I may add one thing: external cues are not always about the result, they can also focus on something during the movement but they set the focus on things outside the body. So for example if you want your players to jump higher an internal cue would be something like "stretch your knees and hip as explosive as you can". An external cue with the same goal could be "push into the ground with maximum force". So also here many times I had the experience that the external cue is way more effective than the internal
Thanks for the tips, both of you :) ❤
i think for me point 3 is the biggest thing I still need to personally work on. I'm a bigger muscular guy so I've gotten away with just hip rotation/throwing elbow shoulder but need that forearm rotation (in full smashes, on stick/half smashes i have forearm rotation) too
Let me know if focussing on the Endposition helps you with that problem 😊
Really a nice and creative take on this .. subject... badminton is blowing up and people are making it much more difficult than it is
Totally agree. Most of the times the easiest methods and advice are the best 👍
Can you make one about jumpsmash in more detail like this one?
i dont know if its just me, but whenever i make a smash, i start with the hips and then i emphasise the movement of my chest and shoulder in conjunction which would then be followed by my elbows and then forearm rotation with grip.
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"The inner game of tennis" by Timothy Gallwey could be mentioned here as well. The absolute bible of how to let your body produce the best results without giving too much internal instructions. Like requesting from your body to produce the best possible sound from the smash...
Great video! This lines up with the new coaching philosophy that is taught nowadays in Switzerland (which based its concept on the french developent methodologies I believe). Small criticism of the video: The music used in some transitions was pretty loud at some points, maybe the mixing got messed up for this one?
Thank you! 🙂 And sorry for the loud music and thanks for the feedback, I will double check with the next videos
A good, fresh take on teaching how to smash! The music gets really loud at some parts of the video though just a heads up
Thank you also for the note about the music! I will check if I can post edit the volume and make sure to tune it a bit down in future videos 👍
Terrific video Tobias.❤❤❤. You are my idol.
Questions:
1. How can sudden acceleration of the arm be produced. I often throw my shoulder up high and try to get back the racket and then accelerate it forward . I feel like a robot. How can the fluidity be achieved.
Question 2 :
You didn't tell how to focus on all movements at the same time, shoulder, arm, and hip. Generally, we try to focus on one thing at the same time. ❤❤❤❤
Thank you! About the first one: just recently I made a video with three more tips on the smash and maybe the most important one for you is the aspect that there is no active backswing. If you try to actively pull the racket back that will often result in a robot like movement. Instead it is about just accelerating forward and be relaxed with the grip
I don't really understand the second one, can you explain again what you mean?
@@tobiaswadenka8435 thanks for the reply. I was saying that If I try to focus on the elbow technique, I lose my attention to other aspects of generating power like hip movement, or shoulder that moves more forward than the non racket shoulder. What to do?
Make a video on the jump smash
Hey Tobias, any updates on your racket End position rotation basis? As a beginner I found that it held me back by a significant margin due to me tensing myself too much, too long in order to replicate that rotation bounce-back that you do, or more accurately what the pro's do when they do a short-action swing that needs a quick recovery/follow-up to that shot they did instead of following through to build my swing to get a faster, more complete swing
hello coach @Tobias Wadenka , can you tell me how deep should the wrist rotation should be?
never say hate toby, just everything i wanted to hear..
i would argue that many casual players here in indonesia just don't have that enough flick of the wrist, as well as the indicating end position of the arm. aside of that, i would also argue that the start and end position of the body angle really makes that difference too. the right body angle just forces you to use your hip and shoulder more! you can definitely feel the pull :)
as tony gunawan once said in Badminton Overtime that the basic shot in badminton consist of 2: pull and swing
I wish I knew these like four years ago back when I started with Badminton haha
Am playing badminton since 2 years now, but when I smash I alway hit the cork with the top of the stringed area even quite often with the fram, even miss the cork sometimes. My partners said I hit to hastily.
I think I need to repeat more and more. But he's there some simple tips to center more my smash in the sweet spot ?
3:20 best part
Learn something new today. the #3. I have a decent smash but my end movement is "wrong". Gotta watch a few smash videos by the pros to see if the end movement taught here is the only one, or it is okay to swing to the side across body.
czcams.com/video/hLwaHfjlojU/video.html
It seems the correct way, but looks very taxing to the wrist. I'll give it a try