Jehovah's Witnesses Are Wrong About The 144,000 & A Paradise Earth
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- Jehovah's Witnesses Are Wrong About The 144,000 & A Paradise Earth
Just a bible believer who was once one of Jehovah's Witnesses. This is my story to Jesus Christ. How he saved me, and what I have learned. Going through spiritual and emotional abuse from the organization, and remaining a believer in God is nothing short of a miracle! However, at least for now, I do not consider myself a teacher, prophet or pastor, as I have been hurt by the JW organization, and I am recovering. I am coming from poor bible teachings from the JW organization, and I recognize that abuse from a cult can have a heavy effect on ones mental health! So lets think of this channel as therapy for me. I attend not to force my views or research on anyone, as I am still learning. If God uses this channel to reach someone, it is up to him, and all glory goes to him! Remember to always pray and do your own research. Amen!
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Loved this! I'm a Christian now (JW for 34 years) and I am still learning so much. I go to church, read the Bible everyday, go to Bible studies and small group, watch sermons and debates regularly. Thank you for being one of my sources! ❤ Love your vids. Great voice!
I did the exact same thing. My understanding of scripture and Jesus flourished! Thank God
@@Deepthoughts4everdid you go to another religion? I am looking I am PoMo now … can be overwhelming…. I don’t want to go to another religion I consider myself christian
Thank you for this video… it helps so much
@@JJL-pr4gl I started by going to ONLY non denominational churches. I did all the things as listed by so many people and prayed for truth and discernment. I found Jesus and he was right there in the Bible. I don’t every remember talking about him like he was anything more than the “one that paid a ransom sacrifice” no I see how weird that really is.
@@Deepthoughts4ever thank you so much for replying! I have considered this so I can fulfill Scripture about being part of the Congregation. It has been a hard journey but I sincerely love Jesus and Yahweh but don’t know who to talk to or where to go.
Looking forward to this. Much appreciated x
Thank you brother for another edifying video. God bless you. I'm praying I will be able to share these with my husband one day. Let's keep praying for our JW family and friends.
Respect My Bro. I’ve Watched ALL Your Videos. God Bless
Great explanation. The slow, smooth voice is great for this topic. Looking forward to more.
I got goosebumps when you brought up the 3rd heaven and paradise scripture. I’ve read that verse a million times but not since I was saved. That is so simple. No pun intended. That’s awesome.
Yep!
Every single chapter of the new testament is addressed to the holy ones, All the disciples reference the holy ones multiple times, And 144000 are taken from the earth to be in heavenly mount zion... There is no confusion whatsoever, as far as I can see.. and you made a massive mistake, Jehovahs witnesses do not say the 144000 come solely from themselves.They actually started being collected with the first 120 in the upper room in 33CE.When holy spirit was poured out, Since then people have become members of the 144000 if they are spiritually qualified and approved by God to be drawn to christ.. Jehovah's witnesses who are members of this group are recent additions, the majority are from the gathering from christ onwards.
Being an ex Jehovah's Witness this info is very helpful. Thank you
Well done, Sir! And with a great radio voice.
We need to help grow this channel!
With the memorial coming up in the next few days I would love it if you could do a simple video with the questions and biblical references to scripture regarding the memorial
stop being lazy and do the video yourself is not hard man!
Every single chapter of the new testament is addressed to the holy ones, All the disciples reference the holy ones multiple times, And 144000 are taken from the earth to be in heavenly mount zion... There is no confusion whatsoever, as far as I can see.. and you made a massive mistake, Jehovahs witnesses do not say the 144000 come solely from themselves.They actually started being collected with the first 120 in the upper room in 33CE.When holy spirit was poured out, Since then people have become members of the 144000 if they are spiritually qualified and approved by God to be drawn to christ.. Jehovah's witnesses who are members of this group are recent additions, the majority are from the gathering from christ onwards.
Nice work, Brother! Telling the TRUTH here! 🙏 ✝ 🙏
Thank you, my brother.
You keep it simple and you make sense.
Much love my brother ❤️
Brian Gibbs
Thank you for your hard work. I have listened several times to get the message. Love through Jesus
Love your videos! ❤God bless you!
Love your channel brother. I have finally found a good denomination and church (PCA) all thanks to you being used as a vessel for God, stay strong brothers!
Your video popped up and I thoroughly enjoyed it!! Subscribed !! 🙏
So happy I found you God bless 40 years I wasted as jw
By the 1990s, the number of anointed had dropped to about 8,000, supporting the interpretation of an imminent end closer than ever.
But since the 2000s, year after year, a constant increase in the number of anointed makes this interpretation incomprehensible.
Since 1935 there is no longer a heavenly call, this truth established at the time by the WT today greatly embarrasses the governing body.
Since today all the anointed ones who received the anointing in 1935 are dead, then who are the so-called anointed ones who make up the governing body?
They are between 70 and 80 years old, so they cannot belong to this class so the heavenly call ended in 1935. Are they impostors? Would their own doctrines condemn them?
In 2007, the GB asked us not to judge the new anointeds. But 10 years later, seeing that the number of anointed continues to increase, exceeding 18,800 in 2017, the WT will end up openly incriminating all anointed.
Today the WT affirms in its text of the day of 08/31/17 that most of the anointed who participate in the Lord's Supper, are not, it affirms that they have psychological or psychiatric problems. The WT, which urged us in 2007 not to judge them, judges, stigmatizes, and condemns the greater part of the anointed who, for it, should not participate in the Lord's Supper, thus installing suspicion and doubt towards all those who take the emblems.
Who could have imagined that one day the GB would openly incriminate the majority of anointed ones. Must the GB be cornered to come to such extremes. This demonstrates, if need be, that there is no spirit of truth and love in this society.
Instead of reviewing its erroneous copy, (as it had already done for the generation of 14 or the wolf and the lamb or Gog de Magog, etc…) the GB will prefer to brace itself on what remains of its "truth" rather than returning once again to a truth of the past, even if it means throwing suspicion today on all those who have received the heavenly call.
People will do what they want do and the JW organization will not question anyone who partakes. That is between them and God. The other issue is people like yourself that reads into what is said by the JW organization with personal distorted interpretation and bias.
@@ronhansen8471, Is it an apostate lie to say that the daily text of 08/31/17 says that most of the anointed ones who today participate in the commemoration of the Lord are not anointed ones? Is it an apostate lie to say that this same text of the day affirms that these anointed have psychological or psychiatric problems?
Is it an apostate lie to say that the number of newly baptized people has been falling every year since 2019?
2019: 303,866 baptisms
2020: 241,994 baptisms
2021: 171,393 baptisms
2022: 145,552 baptisms
Is it an apostate lie to say THE FIRST MEMBERS OF THE GREAT CROWD ARE ALL DEAD?
While the Watchtower said that Jehovah will not allow the first members of this great crowd to disappear before the arrival of paradise.
Survival Into a New Earth (1984).
Chapter 24: The Countdown Nears Its Zero Hour!
Paragraph 6 said: "... The early members of this group are now in their 60’s or 70’s or older. JEHOVAH DID NOT ALLOW THE INGATHERING OF THIS GROUP TO BEGIN TOO SOON. THE “GREAT CROWD,” INCLUDING MANY OF THE EARLIEST MEMBERS THEREOF, WILL SURVIVE INTO THE “NEW EARTH.”
Who tells lies? the EXJW resistance unjustly labeled an apostate or this American society?
@@ronhansen8471 To constantly say that the "END" is imminent is not a mistake but a lie continually updated for decades and decades. It is only the fundamentalist movements that say that the "END" is imminent. The Watchtower promised my grandfather that he would not grow old in this system and that he would see heaven in his lifetime. Despite this false promise, the Watchtower persists and reiterates its promise by telling my father that he will not grow old in this system and that he will see paradise in his lifetime. After more than 140 years of false promises, this same company promises me today that I will not grow old in this system and that I will see paradise in my lifetime. Fortunately unlike in the past, today more and more JW parents are waking up and no longer want to infect their offspring with the Watchtower's false promises. Breaking the vicious circle of this transmission will allow all our beloved children to no longer be indoctrinated by this toxic propaganda which only obscures all natural aspirations of children to project themselves into the future. "The world in the year 2000, I see it transformed into a pretty paradise, I think that the current world and its leaders will not succeed in reaching this period..." Awake 11/08/86 p 8. In 1960 many JW gave up going to higher education in order to work more for the Watchtower society because the “END” was imminent. Many JWs never put money aside for retirement because they weren't supposed to age in this system. Many parents did not want to have children because the great persecution was imminent. Everything is false. This cult is a poison that transforms JWs into docile zombies in the service of a real estate company that has been in for more than 140 years.
@@laymanphil8513 I know what the apostate movement is all about and reminds me of the Russelites of the early 1900s. If you want to alienate yourself from God that is your choice, it just will not go well if you are still advocating apostate rhetoric when the true God ends it.
Is it an apostate lie to say that the daily text of 08/31/17 says that most of the anointed ones who today participate in the commemoration of the Lord are not anointed ones? The lie would be how the information is used. From what I see here you guys pick up on partial truths and distort the information to satisfy your bias. There is nothing stopping a person from partaking of the emblems, and no one is going to question their decision.
Is it an apostate lie to say that the number of newly baptized people has been falling every year since 2019? As I stated previously it depends on how you use the information. We still have 8.5 million members and I have not seen that number shrink but think about it people are becoming less interested in the truth as we get closer to the end of this system and Satan and his demons are becoming more active in the world.
The watch tower does not say Jehovah will not allow the first members of the great crowd to disappear before the new system. It does say this generation will not pass away before the end of the great tribulation.
This generation would be the spirit anointed. That generation is part of the GB.
There will be survivors going into the new system under Christ Jesus rule but none of them will be the spirit anointed. And none of them will be wicked.
Every single chapter of the new testament is addressed to the holy ones, All the disciples reference the holy ones multiple times, And 144000 are taken from the earth to be in heavenly mount zion... There is no confusion whatsoever, as far as I can see.. and you made a massive mistake, Jehovahs witnesses do not say the 144000 come solely from themselves.They actually started being collected with the first 120 in the upper room in 33CE.When holy spirit was poured out, Since then people have become members of the 144000 if they are spiritually qualified and approved by God to be drawn to christ.. Jehovah's witnesses who are members of this group are recent additions, the majority are from the gathering from christ onwards.
This is beautiiful..as a jw that is still inside this is helping me alot because lately ive been feeling confused about thw bible not being clear..too much updates and they remove the important key words and meanings, thank my brother
Great presentation thank you for your ministry to ex JWs and those of us praying for our families still deceived
Love you brother ❤
Excellent, thank you for this video!
Ok so I have to tell you Ive listened to this about 10 times now reading the entire context of the scriptures and its like water for thirst! Who did you study with? What translation of the bible have you found? Im using NIRV, I dont want to get duped again in being analytical I lose the essence of the scripture so Im juat using the kids bible ha! But I need to move beyond that. Coming out of JW is like crawling out of tar on all levels of existence. Thanks for your channel.
So good!! Many thanks, Mark!!
Thank you brother. Do not grow weary!
Love you information.. Thanks very much for your time and information
I really like your take on the scriptures. Wonder if you can do a video on John 3:13 and topic related. This one has me scratching my head
John 3:13
Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but the one who descended from heaven, the Son of man
We could ask the question where are Moses Elijah Abraham. If they didn’t go to heaven then what happened to these faithful men?
As God said to Adam dust you are and to dust you will return
Romans 5: 12 says That is why, just as through one man (Adam) sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to ALL ( Including Moses Elijah Anraham) men because they had all sinned.
What is their hope Acts 24:15
Says And I have hope toward God, which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.
Where will that be Psalm 37:29
The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
Wow……….you are a fabulous teacher. Thank u
Ty this was so helpful.
I remember one time I was at my Aunt's house, and a car came in the driveway. She freaked; Told me to be quiet, turned the TV off, locked the door. I had no idea what was happening. She told me, "they JW's." If you come to my crib, you getting cursed-out. If I invite you in, it ain't going well for you. Leave people alone.
Understand there’s a lot of them knocking at your door that don’t even want to be doing it themselves. I’d be kind and just say no thank you or not answer.
Amen 🙌🏾
great work 🪔I also left the Jehovah witnesses🕯️keep a pure religion
James 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridles not his tongue, but deceives his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
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Great video, just subscribed!!
You had my 👍 in the first 30 seconds.
I also give a 👍 for your representation of Jesus.
When you read the passage in the Bible that mentions the 144,000 it makes it clear that it was referring to Jewish people
It cannot be the Jewish nation because Jesus to them in Mathew 23:37;38 and Mathew 21:43 so revelation 7 the 144,000 are the new Israel galatians 6:15,16 18:18 romans 2:28,29 revelation 14:3,4.these 144,000 are the first fruits and are not only jehovas witness there were people ho died because they wanted to bring the bible so people could read for many years people couldn't read the bible because of catholic church.
@@arturoguerreiro4127 try reading revelation 7 for what it says. It lists off each of the 12 tribes of Israel. 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes. So why can’t it mean what it says?
Revelation 14:4 there are bought from mankind as first fruits and are in mount zion that in heaven Hebrew 12:22,1peter2:6psalm2:6.
Where is said bought from mankind revelation 14:4 is not Israel is the new Israel mention in galatians 6:15,16
Remember what jesus told
The Israelite Matthew 21:43 mattwe23:37,38
Interesting Stuff Thank You !
Another fantastic video!
Truth
Thank you. ❤
They’re wrong about a WHOLE LOT MORE !
Prove they are wrong it’s one thing saying they are wrong it’s another to prove it
What does pimi and pimo mean ? Also were the dead mentioned in Revelation that were judged conscious ? I ask because people believe that we go some where right after we die but the verse (Rev 20:13) mentioned makes it seem like its the dead all at once judged at the same time. If you go to "heaven" or "hell" right after you die why would you get judged again or brought back only to be sent right back to heaven or hell ?
In reference to being or having been a Jehovah’s Witness, here’s what the acronyms mean:
PIMI = Physically In, Mentally In
PIMO = Physically In, Mentally Out
POMO= Physically Out, Mentally Out
@@RobbieJayOne thanks.
I was a JW and never heard of those acronyms.
@@pipeflush same here. I didn’t know what those acronyms meant either until recently. PIMI 25 years POMO 30 years. I didn’t start researching WBTS until the past few weeks and I’m shocked. How are you adjusting?
@@RobbieJayOne Well i was a cradle Catholic due to culture and none of my immediate family members are JWs and neither were any of my child hood friends so it wasn't really hard for me to up and go out of the religion. But i did struggle w still believing it was the "truth" and not being good enough for it. I left it 6yrs ago and i wasnt a JW that long. I just recently decided to return to the Catholic church a few months ago. I personally didnt go through a lot of the bad experiences ive been hearing about cause i wasnt raised in it. Like the suicides, sexual abuse nor the shunning from those close to you like family. Its like i just dipped my foot in it. But i did read and study a lot of the doctrine a long w the Bible cause thats just something i love to do. So i really pounded it in to my own head even before i became an official study, unbaptized publisher, or JW. Im sure you experienced way more than i did. Hope you're doing well after it.
So funny & true! 😂
1. 24 Elders = Co-Rulers they go to heaven at or before the point of death. [Stephen, Enoch, Elijah]
2. 144,000 = Priestclass go to heaven at the final trumpet sound.
3. Great crowd = Jehovah's Witnesses who remain on earth and have prominent roles on earth in the new Jersualem.
...This should help.
***PLEASE READ IF YOU'RE A JWs*** I have never been a JWs but did regretfully agree to Bible Studies with 2 JWs elders during my last year in college before graduating and moving back home. These Saturday morning studies were actually just JW false theology indoctrination sessions masked as Bible Studies.
I asked these 2 old JWs elders hundreds of critical thinking questions about their teachings as JWs teachings are so bizarre, dubious and didn't make any sense from a critical thinking stand point.
These elders evaded every single question I had like Neo dodging Bullets in the Matrix movies.
***I quickly realized "I was receiving a lot of answers I couldn't question and had a lot of questions they refused to answer" Huge Red Flag***
That short time with those 2 JWs and a disturbing JWs indoctrination experience had me intrigued ever since over Cult member's mindsets.
Those so called Bible Studies with JWs made it clear to me that Jesus Christ is the only "Way and The Truth." John 14:6
Haha
Unless you actually mention one of the questions you supposedly ask these elders ,that they couldn't answer. Why should I believe you... I am a witness and I would like to know what your questions were that they could not answer.
@@leecooper3852 Will you be respectful and truthful?
I will be more than happy to give you the questions which I would like an honest bible base answer for.
Are you still interested in the questions?
@anonymousprofessor8866 Jehovah's Christian witnesses are always respectful and they are always truthful, are you? Give me one of your questions. Lets have a look at it in detail.
@@leecooper3852 1st question. Does 100% everything that Jehovah's Witnesses teach and preach come from the Holy Bible and not from a man made teaching?
In other words can you as a Jehovah's Witness give scriptures to provide proof of your organization beliefs?
For example what scripture does JWs use to prove God's name is Jehovah? Where is this scripture?
Keep making videos to help others
Confirmed. Authentic bibles that haven’t been changed says that the 144,000 are strictly reserved for the sons of Israel…and the number was sealed many centuries ago.
Even their views on who the two witnesses are in Revelation 11 is unbelievable. Apparently that event already happened back in the early 20th century. It really makes no sense when you compare their doctrine with scripture.
It happened in 70AD
Tony Morris is part of the 144,000 sales reps for Jack Daniels...
Abraham had 2 houses , Genesis 17:11,12 ; Romans 2:28, Revelation 7:9,10 etc .
😊❤ 🙏Hebrews ⚓️6:19 📖
So what hope have we got then? Of seeing our loved ones
Jesus said to the man on the cross next to him "today you will be with me in paradise". (Luke Chapter 23 Verse 43). Where was he talking about??? Was this man one of the 144 000???
New light for beards and pants for women but none regarding reporting csa to the authorities 🤷♀️
Someone called the seventh angel comes and unseals the scrolls.. It could be there are multiple groups of 144,000.. however, by May 29th 1892 the Prophet of the Bahai religion had 144,000 adherents... And had claimed to be the Messiah by that time. At this time of year in 1863, He revealed his identity to a few of His followers in a festival known as Rizwan or paradise. 🌴🌴.. this holy event took place in Baghdad, Iraq from April 21st through May 2nd and is remembered every year... Later, an American believer named after Leland Jensen claimed to be the lamb of God in the seventh angel among other things, he was also a follower of Baha'u'llah
I'm a pimo just recently so what about psalms 37:29 .
Hello, I hope you find closure in your journey waking up. The bible mentions at some point Heaven and earth will meet together. Like Revelation 21:1 John says he saw a new heaven and new earth. As I mentioned in the beginning a lot of this debated in Christianity. I am not sure where you are in your journey, so I wouldn't want to confuse you. JWs have twisted the scriptures very viciously I'm afraid. The purpose of the video is to debunk the JWs theology of there so called paradise earth. First thing I would say do, is read John 3 in full context, and you'll see the born again process is not just for the 144000. JWs recognize John 3:16. Yet, they say John 3:3 are just for the 144,000. This is one conversation between Nicodemus and Jesus. This process is for anyone who believes in Christ. Paul talks about being being caught up at some point all through Thessalonians, and never makes a distinction of a second class earthly Christian. As a matter of fact he's talking to Christians. When Jesus says other sheep of this fold, he is clearly talking about the gentiles (Non Jews). Not non 144,000 members. Originally Russel said everyone went to heaven while applying this false belief, when the JW group was small, but they ran out of room. So they created this secondary class paradise earth for the other members. As a former Pimo I had to untwist the twisted. Once I did that you realize Jws are in it for self. They want to live forever, and are terrified of death, and that's why they are in it. A true Christian focuses on the relationship with God. Eternal life, heaven, etc..is a perk for having this real relationship with God. This is why Jesus says he will say "I never knew you" to many. We have Christian freedom to debate on non salvation issues as far as eschatology. So because you stated you are a new pimo. I would not want to put my perspective on you to cause confusion. But I would suggest you start there.
@lifeissimplepodcast But this is helping very much to untwist my brain I've now been very far down this rabbit hole and have been finding out many many things.
Im ex disfellowship jw and i want to ask a couple questions for my granddaughter im teaching i really never feel great telling someone something about something i was doubting just 2 or 3 questions i want to ask im just searching for answer and please could you give the site the elder ex jw i think rick
The Holy spirit; John 14:26 / John 15:26 is the same father. Isaiah 9:6 , etc .
Revelation 7:2 Very important to understand what Jehovahs Witnesses believe!
"Though this fifth angel is not named, all the evidence indicates that he must be the glorified Lord Jesus." Revelation Grand...
What is the evidence that says Jesus is an angel literally and that he must be the angel of Rev 7:2?
Shit was always confusing, but I guess I didn’t study enough
The 144,000 are the ones who willbe saved during the tribulation. They sre also Israelites. Read your Bible for yourself and in Rev. 7 & 14. These are the ones saved at that time. To be in a cult, you all believe the same thing. I got out in 1986, use to be an auxiliary pioneer and i did everything honestly. Never cheated on my time, studied myself to death. So glad to be out and finally know Jesus for who he really is. All the changes the gb are doing now lets me know how bad things really are. Get out while the getting is good😊
JESUS TALK TO MOSES AND ELIJAH; MATTHEW 17 .
Heavenly Father in Jesus name please help the brother 😅
I've been one of Jehovah's Witnesses for over 40 years. Once my mind was opened it was easier to see all the false doctrines and beliefs. The Governing Body claims the "Great Crowd" is an earthly group of Christians that will live forever on a paradise earth. But, not one of them will ever show members of the congregation that Revelation 19:1 clearly shows the "Great Crowd" in heaven with God. The 144,000 that John saw was the Great Crowd that no one could number. The entire Revelation was given in signs and symbols.
Jesus Christ had a talk with Moses and Elijah, dead souls . Matthew 17 .
The 144,ooo are hidden well throughout the scriptures. Very few find them. They are hidden in plain sight. Very few have even heard the gospel. Almost all of Christianity today is counterfeit. They all have one thing in common. They deny the One Husband who redeemed THEM!
The 144,000 is an ancient EASTERN teaching. When one purifies oneself, they reach the stage of enlightenment at the crown chakra and is referred to as the 144,000 petal lotus that blossoms out of the head. In Christianity it is the halo over a Saints head. This is also a Kabbalistic number and is reduced to "9" in Hebrew teachings means "Righteousness". 1+4+4 = 9 and is the Hebrew letter "Tzadi" and means "righteous".
Thousand means complete
VAI SER DIFÍCIL OS MEMBROS PASSADOS E PRESENTES DO CORPO GOVERNANTE FAZEREM PARTE DOS 144.000. Por quê ? Porque Apocalipse 14 : 1, 5 mostra que NUNCA HOUVE FALSIDADE NA SUA BOCA.( e o corpo governante vive mentindo )
The GBis like granny Clampett use to say, they are wrong half the time and half wrong the other half.
No, more like 144,001 - 2 new ones have been added that are freshly shaved 😂
Revelation speaks of 24 elders sat on thrones. Jw take this as meaning a symbolic 24 representing the 144000 complete number to rule in heaven. If 24 here is symbolic then why isn’t 144000 symbolic as representing all spiritual Israel?
You’ve not understood my question
Great Job Keep Exposing Watchtower LIES
My man, don't confuse yourself, jw have the best of Bible interpretation. Jesus have two group(john.10:16); everybody can't be king(2nd Timothy 12:2) but few will reign with to covert the earth into paradise of God's purpose for the earth. If Adam was able to obey God to spread the garden as purpose by God almighty the need for Christ death won't be necessary. Christ will rule for 1000year after completing what Adam failed to achieve(rev.20:1-4), Christ and the co-ruler will hand over to God, then the work of Christ is finished(1cor.15:20-28) and that is why Christ is the last Adam.(1cor.15.45). ----- the word of God is secret (Dan.12:9) 7:47 )
Wouldn't that mean that no One believes in Jesus Christ except for the 144,000... Speaking about John 3:16... Because the JW's teach that second part is about the 144,000...
I would say it would be a good question to bring that up to a JW
The other sheep benefit
Listening more to xjw is mire confusing.
To me ,144,000 seems a reasonable number ,as those going to heaven become kings &
Priests. Kings have subjects ,so who are they ? Those who will reside on the restored
Earth. READ Mathew 11:11.
Honestly!!! Using "Undeserved Kindness" can sour down the message? Give one example and explain how your claim is proven true?
Read Revelation 7:4. The 144,000 is from the tribes of Israel.
Here's a simple problem with your reasoning.... imagine you were relaxing in an armchair and put your feet up. *Where would your footstool be?*
So think about this scripture again...
Isaiah 66:1 New Living Translation
This is what the LORD says: “Heaven is my throne, *and the earth is my footstool.* Could you build me a temple as good as that? Could you build me such a resting place?
If you're before the throne, that does not have to mean heaven itself.
In fact "footstool" also has another meaning...
Psalms 110:1 Amplified Bible
A Psalm of David. The LORD (Father) says to my Lord (the Messiah, His Son), “Sit at My right hand Until I *make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet [subjugating them into complete submission].”*
Luke 20:41-44 Amplified Bible
41Then He said to them, “How is it that people say that the Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed) is David’s son? 42For David himself says in the book of Psalms,
‘THE LORD (the Father) SAID TO MY LORD (the Son, the Messiah),
“SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND,
*43UNTIL I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES A FOOTSTOOL FOR YOUR FEET.”’* 44[f]So David calls Him (the Son) ‘Lord,’ and how then is He David’s son?”
*"Footstool" can also mean submission.* The bible explains that many angels and humans have rebelled against God. Jesus has been assigned the task/job of quelling that rebellion. After returning to heaven Jesus had to wait for authorisation to go and remove wicked angels and rebellious humans...
Daniel 7:13,14 Amplified Bible
The Son of Man Presented
13“I kept looking in the night visions,
And behold, [c] *on the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, And He came up to the Ancient of Days And was presented before Him.*
*14“And to Him (the Messiah) was given dominion (supreme authority), Glory and a kingdom, That all the peoples, nations, and speakers of every language Should serve and worship Him.* His dominion is an everlasting dominion Which will not pass away; And His kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed.
Matthew 25:31-33 Amplified Bible
The Judgment
*31“But when the Son of Man comes in His glory and majesty and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before Him [for judgment]; and He will separate them from one another,* as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats; 33and He will put the sheep on His right [the place of honor], and the goats on His left [the place of rejection].
*46Then these [unbelieving people] will go away into eternal (unending) punishment, but those who are righteous and in right standing with God [will go, by His remarkable grace] into eternal (unending) life.”*
As you can see after Jesus finishes judging mankind there are many (sheep) left on the earth... *before/in front of* the throne. They get everlasting life.
Revelation 7:9,10 New Living Translation
*Praise from the Great Crowd*
9After this I saw a vast crowd, too great to count, from every nation and tribe and people and language, standing *in front of the throne and before the Lamb.* They were clothed in white robes and held palm branches in their hands. 10And they were shouting with a great roar,
*“Salvation comes from our God who sits on the throne and from the Lamb!”*
When Jesus has finished all his work he reports back to God...
1 Corinthians 15:24-28 Amplified Bible
*24After that comes the end (completion), when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father, after He has made inoperative and abolished every ruler and every authority and power. 25For Christ must reign [as King] until He has put all His enemies under His feet.* 26The last enemy to be abolished and put to an end is death. *27For HE (the Father) HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS (Christ’s) FEET.* But when He says, “All things have been put in subjection [under Christ],” it is clear that He (the Father) who put all things in subjection to Him (Christ) is excepted [since the Father is not in subjection to His own Son]. 28However, when all things are subjected to Him (Christ), then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One (the Father) who put all things under Him, so that God may be all in all [manifesting His glory without any opposition, the supreme indwelling and controlling factor of life].
That is what Jesus is explaining in the famous prayer...
Matthew 6:9,10 Amplified Bible
9“Pray, then, [b]in this way:
‘Our Father, who is in heaven,
[c]Hallowed be Your name.
*10‘[d]Your kingdom come, Your [e]will be done On earth* as it is in heaven.
At this point the earth is restored/renewed to how God originally intended.
2 Peter 3:7,9,13 New Living Translation
7And by the same word, *the present heavens and earth have been stored up for fire. They are being kept for the day of judgment, when ungodly people will be destroyed.*
9The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, *he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent.*
*13But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world filled with God’s righteousness.*
Revelation 21:1,3-5 New Living Translation
*1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had disappeared. And the sea was also gone.*
3I heard a loud shout from the throne, saying, “Look, God’s home is now among his people! He will live with them, and they will be his people. God himself will be with them.a 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever.”
*5And the one sitting on the throne said, “Look, I am making everything new!”* And then he said to me, “Write this down, for what I tell you is trustworthy and true.”
As you've stated God lives in heaven and so living with mankind indicates his closeness with mankind, his earthly children. The "new heavens and earth" is a new society of people and those ruling over them.
Revelation 5:9,10 New Living Translation
9And they sang a new song with these words:
“You are worthy to take the scroll
and break its seals and open it.
For you were slaughtered, and your blood has ransomed people for God
from every tribe and language and people and nation.
10And you have caused them to become a Kingdom of priests for our God.
*And they will reignd on the earth.”*
The effects of the Kingdom that Jesus and co-rulers initially are in charge of last forever. There will never be another such rebellion on earth again...
Psalms 37:11,29 Aramaic Bible in Plain English
11And the *poor inherit the Earth* and enjoy abundant peace.
29And the *righteous ones inherit the Earth and dwell upon it for eternity.*
Brenton Septuagint Translation
11But the *meek shall inherit the earth;* and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
29But the *righteous shall inherit the earth, and dwell upon it for ever.*
Jehovah's Witnesses don't live in fear of God or Jesus. They fully rely on God and aim to develop a healthy relationship with him.. Some may have very adverse circumstances but they rely on God to see them through these things. That is not to say that some individual JWs behaviour is basically self righteous or has other negative traits that goes against scripture.
Had they both ( Adam& Eve) choose to OBEY AND LISTEN TO JEHOVAH, DO YOU ASSUME THEY WOULD GROW OLD AND DIE , AS WE ALL DO?
OR.....DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD BE " ALIVE " TODAY?
And every human being ever born would " never get sick, grow old, and die?".
GUESS......?
Satan is the lier, killer, manipulative one that's why he's called 😈 a devil.
And Satan DOES THE SAME TODAY........
Guess which sort of FEAR 😨 FALSE CHRISTIANITY TEACHES ABOUT JEHOVAH GOD?
FEAR AS IN "HATING GOD", MAKING GOD EVIL!
ONLY IF YOU KNEW HOW SATAN WORKS.
He works the same TODAY.
JEHOVAH IS A LOVING PARENT A LOVING GOD. " FEAR" AS IN
NO 1." LISTENING
NO 2. OBEY
NO 3. LEARN FROM GOD AND HIS SON
NO 4.TRY TO DO WHAT IS LOVING AND RIGHT.
BE LOVING TO ALL.
NO.5 LIVING A LONG HEALTHY LIFE, AS JEHOVAH WANTED EACH HUMAN TOO.
SATANS " FEAR" INTERPRETATION OF GOD IS :
" HATE"
BE SCARED OF GOD "
REFUSE TO LISTEN TO GOD"
" DO AS " YOU" PLEASE"
REBEL WHEN U CAN BECAUSE
GOD WILL KILL YOU .
SATAN PUTS HORRIBLE THOUGHTS, MANIPULATING THE MIND, THINKING.
EVEN TO MAKE PEOPLE SCARED OF LOVING GOD.
SATAN'S ENEMY: ❤️ LOVE.
GODS EMEMY : SIN MURDER ALL OF WHAT SATAN IS.
THIS IS HOW SATAN SHIT WORKS.
Jehovah made A&E with perfect mental health and physical health.
But if you DELIBERATELY SIN LIKE THEY DID.
DELIBERATE SIN = ETERNAL DEATH.
A&E KNEW THE RULES OF " DISOBEDIENCE " GOD TOLD THEM " EVERTHING "
Do you have proof?
revelation is nonsense
Good gouge but you stopped short my friend. Revelation 14:3-5 reveals the 144,000 are all men, all virgins, all never told a lie, and all are blameless.
Revelation 14:3-5 NIV
3 And they sang a new song before the throne
and before the four living creatures and the elders.
No one could learn the song except the 144,000
who had been redeemed from the earth.
4 These are those
who did not defile themselves with women,
for they remained virgins.
They follow the Lamb wherever he goes.
They were purchased from among mankind
and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb.
5 No lie was found in their mouths;
they are blameless.
So everyone standing before the throne is being judged by their works! Except the dead ones who are written in the book of life.
So the heavens also has sea and lake of fire! Joke!
U needa do ur research bud. When Jesus was on earth he did say he was also in heaven. If u were truest born of God the spirit u would know where heaven and earth is
art thou that jew ?? thats what you ask them
144,000 are jews the counterpart is at rev, 5: 9-10 which are gentiles
Really wish you’d work on pronouncing ‘TH’ properly. Very distracting.
Wrong brother meek shall inherit the earth, what does it say heaven is also on Earth Lord's Prayer. Every church has a truth. The bible is off. Read the 40 days in the deserts. The devil promised head snd punish with hell. God don't make mistakes!
All religions have their own theology. I fully believe the witnesses believe their theology is completely right.
How?
144000 are jews in tribulation period that get saved
The 144000 go wherever Jesus goes and only 14400. There will be a new earth. They are ressurrected on the last day. If you keep living then why would you need to be ressurrected? Faith without works is dead. You must prove in order to accuse. Acts 6:10. Do you deny the God of our Lord and Master Jesus Christ?
Against my better judgement, I will answer all your troll comments here in one thread. I don't know if it will do any good, but maybe some sincere jws are reading this and it may help them.
1. "The 144000 are just the first fruits of the wheat harvest", and "The 144000 go wherever Jesus goes and only 14400..." the 144,000 only appears in the Bible twice. You either take the number literally and the explanation literally, or both the number and the explanation are both figurative. Nowhere does it say that ONLY 144,000 go to heaven.
2. "The great crowd is not said to be in heaven". Do you not even read your own NWT. Revelation 19:1 blows that statement out of the water.
3. "Even the goats are before the throne" What is the context where the goats are mentioned? This is the Great White Throne of Judgement. Lok at the context. The goats are not in heaven with the sheep.
4. "The Bible says there will be a new earth" It also says there will be a new heaven and the New City of Jerusalem will descend out of heaven and be one with the earth, the new earth. Read the context, again.
5. "Jesus gave up his spirit and expired for Jesus says he was dead" Jesus didn't just cease to exist, did he? He went into the lower parts of the earth to preach to those in the grave. Eph 4:9-10.
6. "Truth is always a salvation issue. Christianity is in the Bible not a church. The Bible says do not take in blood." You made a true statement in the beginning, then just pulled a red herring verse, ripped out of context, and applied to something the bible doesn't speak on. The "taking in of blood" is about drinking the blood of sacrificed animals to idols. READ THE CONTEXT THAT THE VERSE IS REFERENCED. It has NOTHING to do with a blood transfusion. You aren't EATING blood, because it would be destroyed. This is cherry picking at it's JW finest. Christianity is IN CHRIST< not a book. You see, the BOOK is about JESUS, the WHOLE THING. Jesus said so. John 5:39.
7. "The 144000 go wherever Jesus goes and only 14400. There will be a new earth. They are ressurrected on the last day. If you keep living then why would you need to be ressurrected? Faith without works is dead. You must prove in order to accuse. Acts 6:10. Do you deny the God of our Lord and Master Jesus Christ?'
This post you left is so disjointed. You've taken several topics, mixed them in the JW blender, and made a troll statement. I already mentioned the 144,000- NOT being what you think, and I've already mentioned a New Heaven and a New Earth, and they will be one. But the resurrection on the last day will be one for life or death/condemnation. John 5:29. Some will still be living when the rapture happens, and they will be not see death, but we will all be changed. I Thess 4 explains this.
Then you rip another red herring right out of context about "faith without works is dead". YOU completely miss the whole point of I John. the works FOLLOW salvation, not the other way around.
So in turn, it is YOU that denies the Lord, Jesus Christ. It is YOU that denies His deity. Now go back under your bridge.
@@richbaker7187 couldn’t have said it better.
@@FormerFetus1995 These keyboard trolls get on my nerves sometimes and they need to get slapped. This guy will probably grow a pair because he's behind a keyboard, try and respond to his ass whoopin, but totally pull more verses out of context.
@@richbaker7187 it says abstain from blood it said nothing about eating therefore you are adding to the bible which is wrong.
the 144000 is Gods number and revelation says not to add or subtract and they are the only ones that go whereever Jesus goes as revelation says
the great crowd are never said to be in heaven they are before the throne and ones can be on earth to be before the throne even the goats are before the throne of judgment.
Jesus said that he was dead do you deny this?
there is a new heavens and a new earth therefore there are people in heaven and there are those on earth . for God will be with mankind so man will still be aroujnd and mankind lives on the earth not heaven
@@richbaker7187 🤦
So what is your religion? And why you acting like JW are wrong but you're right? Aren't you doing the same of JW? I don't have a religion, some Jw tried to recruit me and I'm doing my homework.... I need understanding of the bible, I don't have, is all alien talk to me, nothing, but nothing makes sense to me 😔 I was born roman Catholic but at age 12 I left coz of things I see inside of church, clearly God wasn't there, so much evil....
I have read the Bible and if you are not a Jew or a gentile given the heavenly hope then none of the Bible applies to you. Pimo
Every single chapter of the new testament is addressed to the holy ones, All the disciples reference the holy ones multiple times, And 144000 are taken from the earth to be in heavenly mount zion... There is no confusion whatsoever, as far as I can see.. and you made a massive mistake.Jehovahs witnesses do not say the 144000 come solely from themselves.They actually started being collected with the first 120 in the upper room in 33CE.When holy spirit was poured out, Since then people have become members of the 144000 if they are spiritually qualified and approved by god to be drawn to christ.. Jehovah's witnesses who are members of this group are recently from the gathering of them from christ onwards.
You’re so lost and indoctrinated.
@lovejohn89 I find your reply childish. How about you put your money Where in your mouth is, And show me why yo think that, I assume you have a belief in God, so lets compare..or don't want you to talk about it?
@@leecooper3852 in John 1 you’re translation says that Jesus is a god…what is He a god of?!
@@leecooper3852 kinda figured you would not be able to answer my question as no JW has…because if you did it would contradict your view on Jesus. Just read the Bible for yourself pray when you don’t understand. Do it without your JW doctrine. You’ll walk away a true Christian and not a JW.
@lovejohn89 IM assuming that you received the link I sent to you in the explanation i gave, So why have you not got back to me with any comments?
No one said that Jehovah's Witnesses are all going to heaven, Jehovah all ways wanted for humanity to live in pease and security on earth . The bible says that Jehovah after when this system comes to an . He will bring this system to an end. Even men historical can see that this system is Finnished. Evon governments are saying they don't want religion, then it says that money will callaps, so then Jehovah will bring distrution to the earth and all the wicked. You can say all you like . Like the bible says, you are from our father the devil, the original lier
First, learn how to spell. Second, you lost my respect because you wanna label me. Be very careful of what you call of the devil. Once again, you and other members of this cult, would rather name call and fake condemn others. If I said you were going to hell, you would be offended. But probably not, since you may truly believe it doesn't exist. You are a complete hypocrite if you are really a professing JW witness. What's the difference of you coming to my door and I say the very same thing I said in this video? You wouldn't dare say I'm of the devil to my face. JWS are not tough guys at ALL!!! I was a witness for 12 years, and I know for a fact that is not how you should respond if you disagree. No scriptures, no nothing to justify your point. It's just you in your feelings about what was said. I would bet a lot that you couldn't defend your faith without using a watchtower or website. But since you wanna come on here and condemn somebody with your beliefs. Imma condemn you with mines! If you follow that cult, then you don't believe JESUS (Yeshua) is the actual "I am" as stated in John 8:24. The same I AM that's in Exodus 3:14. You will die in your sins according to the scriptures, then go straight to hades (hell), where you then will await judgment, just like the angels in 2 Peter 2:4 then its the lake of fire (hell), because you believe that your good works and field service time will cause Jehovah to remember you. No!!! Instead it will be Jesus saying he NEVER knew you! Matthew 7:21-23 How can he say that, if he is not the judge? Even your original Greek on JW.org shows this. You are not spared for ignorance either. If you can show me in any bible beside yours where Jesus calls his father Yahweh or Jehovah or if the name Jehovah even appears in the new testament or if the the term "system of things" or "paradise earth" appears in the original Greek or Hebrew. I WILL DELETE THIS CHANNEL! I rebuke your false condemnation of me, and your false cult! In the name of Jesus! If you chose to follow those men in New York in this western culture, then be my guess! Go stand at a cart or something with your free time, but leave me alone. Fr Fr LEAVE ME ALONE! I am not the one!
Your governing body said not to judge, and your post sounds very judgmental
Bro, is creating content. You gotta pick and topic or two to debunk. If you’re trying to prove something isn’t right, then teach what’s right and bring biblical facts that all can agree. You also cannot bash people….that isn’t Christian like.
Did he lie🤔
@@deonsthumbring5511 Yes
The 144,000 are not literally Jews
Revelation should be taken as literally as possible. The 144,000 description is the most detailed part of Revelation; there is nothing to say it is metaphorical, as in other parts of Revelation, wherein an angel explains such meanings to John eg. the seven lampstands and the seven stars. Furthermore, there are a certain collective group of God's chosen people, the Israelites who precisely and beautifully fit the description of the 144,000; male, virginal and who have never told a lie, redeemed from earth and able to follow the lamb in heaven, able to sing what no one else is able to learn.Think about it...
@@paulinerelph so Jesus is married to 144,000 male brides
I disagree I believe they are Jews, and the great crowd is the rest of Mankind. Who do you believe the 144,000 are? who is the great crowd?
@@1697djh men married to one husband?
@@1697djh The scriptures are far too detailed for the 144,000 not to be actual Jews from the twelve tribes described. Of that I am certain. Who fits the other details, such as redeemed from the earth and therefore in heaven, with no guile? I do have an idea but what do you think?
Utter utter lies and nonsense.
???
Please tell me what he lied about
@@deonsthumbring5511 seriously?
@@deonsthumbring5511 You are all so blinded you are unable to see the truth. But I guess that’s what Satan does. He’s pretty good at it.
This guy is well out of his depth.The lake of fire (revelation 20:14 ), is not a literal place,
But SYMBOLIC of final destruction.! Death & Hades are abstract and can’t suffer!