Are The Ping G410 Irons Too Powerful?! - MID HANDICAP TEST
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- Are The Ping G410 Irons Too Powerful?! - MID HANDICAP TEST, PING G410 driver, hybrid, 3-wood and irons have been a huge success in 2019... but how good are they for mid handicap golfers? should you look at these for your next golf clubs? how do they compare to the ping g400 clubs? are the ping g410 irons the best irons for mid handicap golfers? will they help improve your game? maybe they will help you hit longer iron shots closer to the flag? resulting in lower scores and a reduced handicap? lets find out... and lets do it now!
I have upgraded from G400 to the G410. I started with the G Series at a 9 handicap and now carry a 5 handicap. I don't believe these irons are just for mid-handicap players anymore. As a matter of fact, some "low" handicappers should actually try some of the new game improvement irons. For me, making the switch made golf fun again. Is there something wrong with reasonably straight shots, and more greens hit? Not in my book. I can still make them bend a little if I need to. I think we have all heard the new term Game Enjoyment irons. These are it! Enjoy!! P.S. I even got the power loft Specs.
I've just been fit for a set of these irons on Friday night. They were the best set I tried out of the srixion, titelist and callaway equivalents. Made a huge difference immediately (partly because I was playing regular shafts and I needed stiff mind you). Improved my distance and accuracy and they look and feel great. I found them to be very forgiving also, still got good distance and reasonable dispersion on poor contacts. Just waiting for them to arrive now!! 😬
How are they
@@mattdavenport7596 love them, they're a big improvement over the nike vapor fly irons I had previously. Ive used them practically every week since they arrived. The idea they're "too powerful" or whatever this video is suggesting is silly of course, power distance etc is all about your technique eh? but getting fit for these irons was a really game changer for me. Over the last year I've gone from regular shooting +18 to regularly shooting +8, mainly through regular practice of course, but having decent irons that were fitted to me really helped. So, yeah, I really like the g410s, so much so I also got the G410 LST Driver and, when I've got a few quid saved again I'll likely get the 3 wood to match 👍
@@milkflavour82 yeah I’ve just been fitted and it’s £660 for the set, will probably go for it! Thanks mate
@@mattdavenport7596 awesome.. hope you get as much enjoyment out of yours as I do mine 👍
Almost identical to my situation mate. I agree with all of that statement. How you getting on with them now? (Just seen your reply above, thanks for commenting)
Old video I know - but I am always amazed with people who claim "feel" = control as this gent did. If I strike an iron and look up seeing the ball start on my line, fly through the window I want, and then land on my intended target spot, I could care less what that shot "felt" like. Heck, it could make a spark coming off my club face, but If I end up 15ft for bird, I'm in. If you play for "fell" good for you. I for one like lower scores. G Irons should be in the hands of more players.
I would restart the whole test with a brand new ball, as from previous experience I have found that a ball will often play 'wonky' for about 2-3 holes before it splits, which may have been the case with the ball you were using....
I'm off 8 and play the Ap1 718 irons. These type of irons are not just for high handicap golfers. I take advantage of these clubs with the height i can hit them. Nice high fade and land soft with long irons. Don't be scared about spin numbers being lower because the the numbers on the bottom of the clubs are only numbers. Its the lofts that you need to know.
I think the power clubs are getting to scary! Yes, we all love distance but this is CRAZY strong!!
Not sure if you're implying just Ping or not, so I will say this. The Titleist 718 AP1 7 iron is 30 and so is the Mizuno JPX919 HOT METAL 7 iron. If you're talking about the power spec option I agree.
When you look st the lofts they compare to the AP1/3 lofts, if you test them against the AP2 for example with the same loft you get a similar result, I hot fitted recently for AP3's just meant I dropped a long iron for an extra vokey
Jpx 919 hotmetal pro will be a good comparison for these and they'll probably be softer feeling
Great review James and what a throughly nice chap Mark seems 👍🏼
Sound/feel has never mattered to me. I love the look of these. I may be the biggest Ping shill you’ve ever met that has never owned a Ping club lol. I always stay 2-3 years back when it come to gear because of price difference. I hit these last weekend and I would consider buying these new.
Fantastic irons... I have got a set and now playing off 12 from being a 18 handicap player
Anyone can hit a blade type club when they are swinging well even mid 14 handicap golfers like mark!
The reason why ping G type irons do well for most handicap golfers from about 8 up is.They offer the forgiveness when your not striking the ball well as opposed to blade type irons where if your on a poor striking day the penalties are exaggerated several fold.I bet if you could do a full season test on comps with mark playing his i200 against the g410,his handicap would come down more if he used the g410.I am not a ping iron player it's just I see too many mid handicap golfers and I class mid handicap from 8 to 18 playing equipment that their swing
Isn't good enough to hit them on a consistent basis.If you can make the game easier then why not.Golf unfortunately is full of egos,Just watch the Mark Crossfield Volg on the Cleveland launcher irons and see what he has to say.
Another excellent video James. Would love to sometime see a blooper reel, know there has to be some.
Really interesting review.
I have to admit I like the look of these irons even though they aren’t for me. I really didn’t like the 400s at all.
Passing this one on to my Dad the Ping loyalist!
If he ends up buying these I’ll be sure to post an update!
This is glorious, I been tryin to find out about "how many single digit handicaps are there in golf?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Tonayden Senadelyn Remedy - (should be on google have a look ) ? Ive heard some extraordinary things about it and my colleague got cool results with it.
The word inconsistent springs to mind for us club golfers😀
Shouldn't that be "spriggs" to mind? :-DDD
Surprised to see you using a range ball on the indoor testing! Did not expect that. Furthermore, I would hit all the 7 irons again with the new ball. Might explain/adjust that 40 yard gap.
I use the G400 irons tried the 410’s they do look better but 400’s have better feel won’t change.
Comparison with the Callaway Big Bertha Irons would be interesting, although I suspect you would need the Pings in power spec for fair play
The problem with gimmicks and power lofting clubs is it screws with the expectations of how far you should hit. For example my old iron set in the 80's was 1-9, pw and sw; now my set is 3-9, pw, 50* gw, 54* sw and 58* lw. My distances have not changed over the set, just the label at the bottom of the club! This is stupid. IMO we shouldn't try to hit bigger through equipment (learning to swing better will do this), instead I think consistency and feel should be what we go for. If this trend continues I imagine a set of clubs in the future might look like 5-9, pw, gw, sw, lw, llw, lllw; when will this crazy train stop?!
Another good test and review of the clubs from Mark 👏👏
James and Mark- I tried Mizuno Hot Metals, Rogue Pros and then the G410/i210s. Landed on a combo set of G410 4, 5, 6, 7 and i210 8, 9, pw (i210 power spec’d to match the lifts of G410. Great set of irons. Forgiveness on longer irons and feel with short irons.
Phil Campbell did you mix the set because the short G410 irons were clunky?
Clinton Andersen = the i210’s are muscle back irons that I can really feel the difference. So from 145 yds in I felt I needed more of a players distance club. I really like them. I probably oils have added the 7 then switch to g410s for the 5&6 then add a hybrid. The four is a great club but it is more difficult to hit than a hybrid the same distance. Hope this helps.
So much nice irons came out this year but I don’t want to give my rouges. I really love them clubs
I feel these are a good solid club, probably mid to high handicap level, but very smooth and easy to strike the ball. Lofts very strong though.
Another great video, and no red trousers. Woohoo 🏌️♂️🤣 I love the look of the g410 and can't wait to try them out
I haven't had the opportunity to hit these yet, but I did just get my i500's delivered!
Hey James, I have watched your review on both the i500's and the G410's, how did they compare on feel and feedback? Did the i500's feel better, as in more feedback, softer and feeling all around more like a players club as apposed to the G410's? Did you feel that you could potentially shape shots, control the trajectory and have your shots be fairly consistent when the need arose? Thanks for your time and thank you so much for all the fantastic content you always put out! I literally watch your videos daily!
he needs a mixed set. i have the g400 and i have to remember the 5 is really a 4. 8 is a 7..etc. so the spin rates are not that low considering the loft rather than the iron number. still, i have have issues getting a ball to hold unless into a stiff wind. the feel and the sound are not really to my liking.
How has Mark’s game been coming along? Is his handicap coming down?
A test of Wilson's D7 irons would be very helpful to a High handicapper
James, can you test Cobra King forge cb/mb irons that came out in Nov 18
Great video how does this compare with TM CBGT and Wilson D7 irons? Now there's a test!
Nice crisp sound
210YDS with a 5 iron as a mid handicap really? Way too much gap between 7 iron & 5 iron. Im low to middle hcp and only hit my Mizuno Mp-59 5 iron 180yds + and my 7 iron 160yds +
Is the video title insinuating that it is supposed to be a bad thing?
I have been reading some reviews that are saying the pearl finish on the g700 and the i500 scratch easily. Have y’all heard this?
I tested these with Andy Sullivan (The Average Golfer--have a watch) I'm 13 hcap, I was hitting them 195+ and my AP2s goes around 185 ish. I enjoyed them! Much more consistent that my AP2s, not massive difference in sound and feel to my average Golfer ears and hands
Jay Byrne loft are stronger than ap2 Game improvement iron. Ap2 not
@@nickmillar3975 yes I know. However mine are cranked down 2 degrees to lower the ball flight as they went too high before.
So the ping are only 2 degrees stronger than mine.
They're much easier to hit and we're very consistent on bad strikes. Mine are far more punishing. I didn't really see a negative with them, other than golf snobbery of wanting to play more "players irons"
@@lcas1374 I said this to Andy. They spun prob 500 revs less than mine but had a higher peak height and similar decent angle.
Im not seeing 500 revs making much difference on 5500 revs etc! I'm not that good!
I think sometimes everything and everyone is obsessed with numbers, when the real question is can you play with them? Are they better than what you use now? 😂 😂 😂
Jay Byrne I’m still playing the p790 irons I like them also
@@nickmillar3975 they're nice clubs, my pal was playing them til recently. They're pretty strong lofts too though right?
I see Rahm is hitting 8 irons 190 yards at the Players.
So did just about everyone through that hole. Suspect the wind and slope were helping. Rory said he hit a 6 iron 180 on one approach and he hit 8i into 18 with 155 left. He also hit an 8i on that par 3. So the numbers on the broadcast lack a lot of context.
@@travissherriff3368 Even at 155 these are numbers I can't compute! :-)
Another great review
That's so funny that he cracked the golf ball I was doing a club fitting yesterday they moved me from regular flex all the way up to extra stiff because I snapped the head off of the driver we were testing with and then on the next swing with a different club I cracked the ball
Can you do a comparison with the i500 please....with mark
I would like to see this as well. I have a split set now with Ping G and also Ping 700 long irons. I really like the 700 but hit I500’s in a shop and like the feel much better. Thinking about going all I500 or all G410. I like the idea of a forged face. The feel was better. I also prefer graphite shafts.
@@mharri333 I have the i500...they are really really nice...best irons I have ever had
Am I the only one that thinks the G410 looks VERY much like the old G20?
My gaps are no where near those. 7 iron 155 5 iron 172
Why is it that mid handicap players don’t like game improvement irons? They complain about the looks about the feed back on off centre shots. I think they just want to sound like they are expert players and rather play with blades.
James, those clubs are loud. Perhaps test with a premium ball instead of Top Flight X outs! lol
They are premium balls Simon. Pro V 1 x
@@JamesRobinsonGolf I know lol Clubs always sound different indoors as the sound comes back at you from the walls. Not sure I could go for clubs with such a strong lofted wedge, I'd have to put in 3 other wedges to fill the holes. I know it's modern thinking but I'm almost an old fart lol
Love it
Please put sheets in, we get dizzy
The pro has even got the amateur talking the jargon. in other words Ballocks.
5.50 flex faceability?
More FUGLY' irons from PING...no doubt they work but, how far do they go :-0
They're going to require a whole new bag set up and work on new distances
Other than the i500 irons, all of ping's clubs styling is terrible. They are great clubs, if they could take a page from mizuno for looks i would consider gaming them.
How about higher HCP using them to become a lower HCP?
They would be good for mid handicappers but not for me says the mid handicapper 😂😂😂😂
I’m 13 and have these clubs and my handicap has gone from 36 to 20 in the space of one round of golf
You need to re-do the test with a brand new ball.
15-22 hdcp….lol…..dude needs some OS irons
The video was as long as the 5 iron. Just sayin
LOL If this guy really is a mid handicapper 18/20 his close game must be really shit!
Explain mate.
So this guy is a midhandicapper??
Swings look about 5 handicap to me.
Poor short game then???
My thoughts as Barrie !
Agree, dude was below a 10 handicap by at least a couple