LPL doesn't do tubular locks because the answer to them is always an impressioning tool. kinda boring but practical if you are a pentester. same deal with rakes and jigglers. the picks he uses are not necessarily the most practical solution for stuff that can be raked or bypassed but it has the benefit of being able to be used on almost any kind of lock, and that's the appeal for LPL, how much can be done with the simplest tools, a pick and tension, even when he uses a more exotic tool like a lishi pick or decoder,, the purpose is education (which the lishi picks are great for). The reason I watch, I want to how many exotic locks can fail to these basic tools and a well honed sense of touch.
Case this ends up helping anyone else, I was having a lot of trouble trying to get this tool to work for me on a practice lock, so i tried setting it manually comparing it with the key to compare the impression it was getting and i noticed one of the pins was getting set way deeper then the key was at, so i swapped it with one of the spares and started having a lot more success with it.
Good to know, I got the lock I wanted to get open, open but I did have to play with one of the pics/pins manually, maybe I could just tighten the collet a little more.
We haven't heard from LPL in weeks, starting to worry that somewhere he's locked up where he can't get out by shimming, single pin picking, raking or whacking with a mallet.
If you're new, add the extra o-ring. I was practicing on the coffee machine at work and couldn't get it. I added the 2nd ring and got it on the first try.
I’ve picked hundreds of tubular locks. Never failed on one. Only takes a few seconds. I have no idea how anyone could break anything on these picks. Bought my tubular pick in 1999 from IDN and it still works great. Never had to replace any parts or repair it.
Hi, I’d like to start off by stating that this is an awesome product and I'm happy that I purchased it. The question I have is this, I've broken two of the tension rods on a stubborn 7-pin lock that I've been working on lately. How can I purchase more of these, and can you please explain why are they so fragile and fail the way they do at that “rubber-thingy” joint on the rod itself? Is there a science behind this? I'm trying to figure it out, but I'm not that knowledgeable. Any advice as to why this is has happened to me twice on the same tubular lock (hadn't happened on about a dozen or so other locks).
Tried using this tool in my free time for the past couple months with no success, just awkwardly pushing and turning. Added an extra o ring for more compression and immediately saw results!
What to do if the tube lock I am attempting to open has a slightly wider diameter than the hole that is at the center of the pick? This keeps it from actually entering the keyway. Is there a wider version of tube locks that this tool does not fit?
Nice tool, I have an older U lock that the tool won't fit in, the tubular hole is too tight. Is there a way to open those too or that tool just won't work with tighter locks?
The pins are pushed forward with the washer. Then push them in on a flat surface. If the tool drum will not enter the lock and pattern, then remove the 7/8 set pin entirely. You do not turn the lock with the pins or they will twist and break.
Just bought this and have spent over an hour trying to pick a Kryptonite Krypto Lok ATB bike lock. No luck so far. I am 99% sure I have it set up correctly (7 pins). So far, I am not impressed. I will check back if I ever figure this out.
Okay. I played with it some more after a good night's sleep. I have been able to open the lock a few times now. After watching another video with a similar pick, I ended up keeping the picking tips about 1/4" past the end of the tool. That seems to work better than pushing them flat against the end of the tool (at least for me and a Kryptonite lock). With a little more practice, I hope to be able to pick similar locks as fast as the video.
@@DonaldHeider I have spent about 6 hours with this pick and the Kryptonite lock. I have managed to unlock it about 7 or 8 times. Of those, I was only able to successfully tighten the locking ring to make it a working key. I always felt as if I had just got lucky, and was never able to repeat the pick quickly. I have also noticed that the pick is starting to crack and split in two spots. If you look at the end of the pick, it is machined down to very thin material where the picking tips go. There are two of those thin areas that are cracked and starting to split. Maybe I was turning too hard, but I don't think I ever tried to really force it. I have the CI Genesis pick set with the practice lock and really like the quality of those items. Howerver, I am very disappointed in this item. I am going to give up trying to open the Kriptonite lock. If I see another lock with this key type in a thrift store in the future, I'll give this another try. I don't know if the breaks in the tube are going to be a problem. I may contact CI and see if they can send me a new tube. I would attach photos if I could. I may end up trying a different manufacturer, as I really like having this tool in the arsenal. Let me know if you have any luck.
I just got mine. But it doesn't seem to fit the lock i have. It's for a Kennedy toolbox. Currently the toolbox is unlocked. It didn't seem to fit the 7 pins
I was wondering, those tiny little rods you can put in the key for either 7 pin or 8 pin decoding, why do they break so easily? I have to put the rod that broke off first in the hole now and then the second piece of it. Could it be they weren't heattreated correctly or at all? or are they designed to break so easily, because I noticed a tiny little rubber o ring between the 2 parts. (or did I insert them incorrectly and I should've pushed the part with the o ring into the hole (which didn't really work, that's why I started with the larger part of the rod)) Anyway, it does work, took me a little while, but if those rods are designed to break easily, then my best guess I'm putting way too much force on the turning part? Because I remember you saying that you push and twist at the same time, and lately you found out that rolling the key in your palm and twist it around works better?
Flor, Send us an email to our customer service email and we can get you sorted. Technique varies, but these days I tend to find a straight pushing in technique works best. I like to push the tip into the pins several times (6-10 times) and then test the rotation. The old technique of twisting first and then pushing seems to be less efficient however sometimes it can work better on old and gritty tubular locks where the pins need more force to properly set at the shear line.
@@CovertInstrumentsOfficial well I'm a total noob, just had it one day, I also ordered your training lock, and for me, the best technique so far, is just play with the tension and just press in lightly to see if all the pins move, then a few more times to find the sweet spot between the tension and the springs, and just turn, sometimes it takes 2 twists, but it immediately opens. The other lock I tried was an old bike lock, and it needed more tension, but the same way, just lightly push in the tool, see if all the pins move, and twist a couple times. That were my first mistakes and broke all the rods, but that's ok, just put the smaller one in first so the larger one can fit, I can live with putting the rod in first, no biggie. You don't need to put force on it, just enough to move all the pins. It's surprisingly easy, those wafer locks are a lot harder, I have to modify my tool because the tip is too thick for the practice lock, it always gets stuck, and some wafers have to be done again because of it, I can't move it between each other. I also learnt not to use a comb on a yale lock if the top of the keyway is curved, I had to use the knife too in between the comb and pins, just to get it out again with a lot of jiggling... well, at least my brain works, right :)
I wanna say huh? but I understand the concept, a friend told me get a pen take the end off shove on push hard mostly 80'-90's Kryptonite bike locks. Same dude blew his nose @ a concert 1 side pink the other blue, you can guess!
one pick always seems to slip right to the top of its housing when i try to fix it in place. I think it could be a machining issue? anyone else struggling with this?
do you have to pull up the 8th pin on a 7 pin tubular lock? I've done what you said, put in an extra washer, now my all my pins move, but the lock doesn't turn :(
The tubular pick should be ready to use out of the box with our practice tubular lock. I would recommend varying the compression on the compression knob. Start with it loose and push the tip of the tool straight into the pins 6-10 times and then on the last push give it a slight rotation and see if it opens. If it does not open, tighten the collar by a quarter turn, reset the pick tip and try again. Repeat until it opens
@@CovertInstrumentsOfficial yeah, i'm getting the hang of it! I do recommend to just put a second O ring around the tool, without it, the margin between good and bad tension is just too close for me. With the extra O ring, I have more increments of tension which helps a lot. The only downside is, the metal washer is just as wide as the tool, it's difficult to pull it down if you don't have nails. That could be a little bit wider. On my 7 pin lock, I have to pull that pin up, or that's what I do, but then the metal washer to reset them again, is lodged between the pin I pulled up and the tool. No nails, use something else to pull that washer down again, remembering that tool is under tension, so it's either reset the tension and you can pull it down easier, or keep the tension and pray your knife to pull it down doesn't cut you :)
I ended up in the exact "early pull out" situation you described ... and I cannot make any progress since. I had actually already picked the lock using a HUK tool. It's my own Amazon Basics safe. I opened took out what I needed, and instead of changing the batteries, I closed it again thinking it was that easy to pick. Now I'm back to square one! Please help!
I have a cheapo tubular pick set that doesn't have a tensioning tighten down device, it's only rubber bands. So not knowing this is a fragile cheapo system, I picked the lock & pulled the pick out & when I placed it back in, the needles were no longer in line to turn the pick. I couldn't figure out if I needed to keep the pick in line with the original alignment or with where it stopped & pick it from there. You have to reset the pick & ignore where you stopped at & pick it as if the lock is in proper placement & you're starting from a normal position. Once picked you can rotate it to the normal position.
Been trying for a month to make this work without success. Is it defective? Am I the only one willing to admit this product doesn't work? I'd like to hear from anyone that got this to work....
The tubular pick should be ready to use out of the box with our practice tubular lock. I would recommend varying the compression on the compression knob. Start with it loose and push the tip of the tool straight into the pins 6-10 times and then on the last push give it a slight rotation and see if it opens. If it does not open, tighten the collar by a quarter turn, reset the pick tip and try again. Repeat until it opens. You might also want to add in a second compression o-ring inside the compression collar to provide additional stiffness.
I just figured out how to get my tubular lock open after about a 1/2 hour's worth of trial-and-error. Here is what I did to get it consistently opening within a matter of minutes! I used 2 of the 3 washers that came in the bag. I used the smallest and the medium washer added to the device. Then, using tension at about 95% of full tightness, I push straight in and out about 5-10 times watching to see that the pins get set before rotating right to left. I just keep doing this until it opens! PATIENCE! Many Happy Openings !
This is not real, i bought this pick and it came today, literally the day i bought it, first thing happened, the pick wouldn’t even fit my lock it seems, there was no tension on the lock i could not feel the spring sensation when i pushed on it, it felt like i was forcing the pick into the lock, as a result the first “tension rod” bent, i installed another, change out the picks and still no better results, this is a waste of cash, $70 that i want back and i will be contacting the company, you people should not be ripping off people like this for a bogus tool that cost $70?!!!!
Plenty of other people use it with success just because you suck doesnt mean the tool does, this is a fine art not something you can try for 20 mins get frustrated and give up on
@@Spacecadet3890 okay smart guy explain how a tool with a wider diameter fits in a lock with a small one. Come on here trying to insult people with your dumb self thinking you’re smart. There are other tools exacting like this with multiple diameter tools in a set that can fit a wider variety of locks that this cannot which happen to be cheaper than this one tool. Go argue with your mother kid.
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This guys channel really opened allot of doors for me.
BADUM TISH
Lol
"If it's your first time, you may get a little excited and pull out too early, resulting in a partially finished job."
😳
Best line ever
He's not wrong.
LOL!
I don't know that I've ever heard anyone talk about getting too excited and pulling out too early on their first time 🤔😂
I was hoping I wasn't the only one who heard that lmao
It can be used for the laundry machines in event you “lose” your tubular key. Use this information responsibly and accordingly.
Based
Seeing stuff from Covert Instruments NOT being on LPL’s table is just bizarre to me. 😂
Doesn't LPL own CI?
And it’s McNally Official doing the video
LPL owns CI tho right?
@@skyfator
LPL co-founded CI.
LPL doesn't do tubular locks because the answer to them is always an impressioning tool. kinda boring but practical if you are a pentester. same deal with rakes and jigglers. the picks he uses are not necessarily the most practical solution for stuff that can be raked or bypassed but it has the benefit of being able to be used on almost any kind of lock, and that's the appeal for LPL, how much can be done with the simplest tools, a pick and tension, even when he uses a more exotic tool like a lishi pick or decoder,, the purpose is education (which the lishi picks are great for). The reason I watch, I want to how many exotic locks can fail to these basic tools and a well honed sense of touch.
Case this ends up helping anyone else, I was having a lot of trouble trying to get this tool to work for me on a practice lock, so i tried setting it manually comparing it with the key to compare the impression it was getting and i noticed one of the pins was getting set way deeper then the key was at, so i swapped it with one of the spares and started having a lot more success with it.
I think this is what is happening to me. I can’t figure out the whole replacement tbh
Good to know, I got the lock I wanted to get open, open but I did have to play with one of the pics/pins manually, maybe I could just tighten the collet a little more.
Mcnally, the most exceptionnel lockpicker
We haven't heard from LPL in weeks, starting to worry that somewhere he's locked up where he can't get out by shimming, single pin picking, raking or whacking with a mallet.
Lmao, good joke
The cage they made for him has hydraulic cylinders that raise or lower the lid no way to get out from the inside
Story of my life....getting a little excited and pulling out early.
If you're new, add the extra o-ring. I was practicing on the coffee machine at work and couldn't get it. I added the 2nd ring and got it on the first try.
Professionals never pull out early!
Ah yes, uploaded 20 seconds ago
1:40 lol that's how i know LPL was involved in this video - that's his MOA
Pulling out early has saved me more than once!!!🤣😂
I’ve picked hundreds of tubular locks. Never failed on one. Only takes a few seconds. I have no idea how anyone could break anything on these picks. Bought my tubular pick in 1999 from IDN and it still works great. Never had to replace any parts or repair it.
Idn?
Hi, I’d like to start off by stating that this is an awesome product and I'm happy that I purchased it. The question I have is this, I've broken two of the tension rods on a stubborn 7-pin lock that I've been working on lately. How can I purchase more of these, and can you please explain why are they so fragile and fail the way they do at that “rubber-thingy” joint on the rod itself? Is there a science behind this? I'm trying to figure it out, but I'm not that knowledgeable. Any advice as to why this is has happened to me twice on the same tubular lock (hadn't happened on about a dozen or so other locks).
Tried using this tool in my free time for the past couple months with no success, just awkwardly pushing and turning. Added an extra o ring for more compression and immediately saw results!
The way he says "finishing the job" it sounds totally like a tutorial for a newbie thief 😆😆😆
a tubular tensioner that pops on/off like the harpoon would be cool
Gonna be trying it on a safe that my boss wants gone and I want in my house lol
What to do if the tube lock I am attempting to open has a slightly wider diameter than the hole that is at the center of the pick? This keeps it from actually entering the keyway. Is there a wider version of tube locks that this tool does not fit?
Just git mine in the mail and successfully picked my first lock within a few minutes.
Please start selling to the UK again!
After I turned up the compression I opened my safe stupid fast with this
Brilliant on firmly sprung locks. Useless on locks with weak springs.
So you guys have McNally and LPL. What other wizards are you hiding?
Does this work on different size tubular locks or only one size
Nice tool, I have an older U lock that the tool won't fit in, the tubular hole is too tight. Is there a way to open those too or that tool just won't work with tighter locks?
Wish you'd tell how to identify if the lock is 7 or 8 pin. Haven't been able to get this tool to work after a week of trying
Me too. Did you ever get it?
Count the pins
Take the conversion pin out. Some locks won't let the tool enter because the7/8 pin is in the way.
I use a bic pen tube
I’ve been very careful with my tubular lock but I’ve already broken two tension rods immediately, is there something I’m doing wrong?
The pins are pushed forward with the washer. Then push them in on a flat surface. If the tool drum will not enter the lock and pattern, then remove the 7/8 set pin entirely. You do not turn the lock with the pins or they will twist and break.
I’m having the same issue with the tension pin. It snaps right at the little o ring. I’ve broken 2 in less than 24 hours
Watching this because LPLIS on vacation
Just bought this and have spent over an hour trying to pick a Kryptonite Krypto Lok ATB bike lock. No luck so far. I am 99% sure I have it set up correctly (7 pins). So far, I am not impressed. I will check back if I ever figure this out.
Okay. I played with it some more after a good night's sleep. I have been able to open the lock a few times now. After watching another video with a similar pick, I ended up keeping the picking tips about 1/4" past the end of the tool. That seems to work better than pushing them flat against the end of the tool (at least for me and a Kryptonite lock). With a little more practice, I hope to be able to pick similar locks as fast as the video.
Hey if you figure it out let me know cuz I'm doing the same thing as
@@DonaldHeider I have spent about 6 hours with this pick and the Kryptonite lock. I have managed to unlock it about 7 or 8 times. Of those, I was only able to successfully tighten the locking ring to make it a working key. I always felt as if I had just got lucky, and was never able to repeat the pick quickly. I have also noticed that the pick is starting to crack and split in two spots. If you look at the end of the pick, it is machined down to very thin material where the picking tips go. There are two of those thin areas that are cracked and starting to split. Maybe I was turning too hard, but I don't think I ever tried to really force it. I have the CI Genesis pick set with the practice lock and really like the quality of those items. Howerver, I am very disappointed in this item. I am going to give up trying to open the Kriptonite lock. If I see another lock with this key type in a thrift store in the future, I'll give this another try. I don't know if the breaks in the tube are going to be a problem. I may contact CI and see if they can send me a new tube. I would attach photos if I could. I may end up trying a different manufacturer, as I really like having this tool in the arsenal. Let me know if you have any luck.
I just got mine. But it doesn't seem to fit the lock i have. It's for a Kennedy toolbox.
Currently the toolbox is unlocked. It didn't seem to fit the 7 pins
Do you have these in any other sizes? It's too big for my locks that I have.
Pulling out to early due to excitement is a common problem. 🤔 *from experience
I was wondering, those tiny little rods you can put in the key for either 7 pin or 8 pin decoding, why do they break so easily? I have to put the rod that broke off first in the hole now and then the second piece of it. Could it be they weren't heattreated correctly or at all? or are they designed to break so easily, because I noticed a tiny little rubber o ring between the 2 parts. (or did I insert them incorrectly and I should've pushed the part with the o ring into the hole (which didn't really work, that's why I started with the larger part of the rod))
Anyway, it does work, took me a little while, but if those rods are designed to break easily, then my best guess I'm putting way too much force on the turning part? Because I remember you saying that you push and twist at the same time, and lately you found out that rolling the key in your palm and twist it around works better?
Flor,
Send us an email to our customer service email and we can get you sorted. Technique varies, but these days I tend to find a straight pushing in technique works best. I like to push the tip into the pins several times (6-10 times) and then test the rotation. The old technique of twisting first and then pushing seems to be less efficient however sometimes it can work better on old and gritty tubular locks where the pins need more force to properly set at the shear line.
@@CovertInstrumentsOfficial well I'm a total noob, just had it one day, I also ordered your training lock, and for me, the best technique so far, is just play with the tension and just press in lightly to see if all the pins move, then a few more times to find the sweet spot between the tension and the springs, and just turn, sometimes it takes 2 twists, but it immediately opens.
The other lock I tried was an old bike lock, and it needed more tension, but the same way, just lightly push in the tool, see if all the pins move, and twist a couple times.
That were my first mistakes and broke all the rods, but that's ok, just put the smaller one in first so the larger one can fit, I can live with putting the rod in first, no biggie.
You don't need to put force on it, just enough to move all the pins.
It's surprisingly easy, those wafer locks are a lot harder, I have to modify my tool because the tip is too thick for the practice lock, it always gets stuck, and some wafers have to be done again because of it, I can't move it between each other.
I also learnt not to use a comb on a yale lock if the top of the keyway is curved, I had to use the knife too in between the comb and pins, just to get it out again with a lot of jiggling... well, at least my brain works, right :)
Where do you get that set.
Okay I got it to work you have to be very patient with the tool do not do not force the tool and listen to what the guy is saying
I wanna say huh? but I understand the concept, a friend told me get a pen take the end off shove on push hard mostly 80'-90's Kryptonite bike locks. Same dude blew his nose @ a concert 1 side pink the other blue, you can guess!
one pick always seems to slip right to the top of its housing when i try to fix it in place. I think it could be a machining issue? anyone else struggling with this?
I lost my wordlock code, I can't figure out how to open it, bruteforcing is too tedious.
Try Webster's Dictionary....=))
do you have to pull up the 8th pin on a 7 pin tubular lock? I've done what you said, put in an extra washer, now my all my pins move, but the lock doesn't turn :(
The tubular pick should be ready to use out of the box with our practice tubular lock. I would recommend varying the compression on the compression knob. Start with it loose and push the tip of the tool straight into the pins 6-10 times and then on the last push give it a slight rotation and see if it opens. If it does not open, tighten the collar by a quarter turn, reset the pick tip and try again. Repeat until it opens
@@CovertInstrumentsOfficial yeah, i'm getting the hang of it! I do recommend to just put a second O ring around the tool, without it, the margin between good and bad tension is just too close for me. With the extra O ring, I have more increments of tension which helps a lot. The only downside is, the metal washer is just as wide as the tool, it's difficult to pull it down if you don't have nails. That could be a little bit wider. On my 7 pin lock, I have to pull that pin up, or that's what I do, but then the metal washer to reset them again, is lodged between the pin I pulled up and the tool. No nails, use something else to pull that washer down again, remembering that tool is under tension, so it's either reset the tension and you can pull it down easier, or keep the tension and pray your knife to pull it down doesn't cut you :)
I ended up in the exact "early pull out" situation you described ... and I cannot make any progress since. I had actually already picked the lock using a HUK tool. It's my own Amazon Basics safe. I opened took out what I needed, and instead of changing the batteries, I closed it again thinking it was that easy to pick. Now I'm back to square one! Please help!
Just wait 15 or 20 minutes then give it a go again. It may take longer than you hoped but you'll get there.
Thanks @@gingerman5123 . I"ve waited much longer, tried resetting the pins, etc. and no luck.
I have a cheapo tubular pick set that doesn't have a tensioning tighten down device, it's only rubber bands.
So not knowing this is a fragile cheapo system, I picked the lock & pulled the pick out & when I placed it back in, the needles were no longer in line to turn the pick.
I couldn't figure out if I needed to keep the pick in line with the original alignment or with where it stopped & pick it from there.
You have to reset the pick & ignore where you stopped at & pick it as if the lock is in proper placement & you're starting from a normal position.
Once picked you can rotate it to the normal position.
Thanks@@ClickClack_Bam , I will give that a try
Wait. McNally?
Where has LPL gone? Is he on holiday.
Everything on the website is sold out. What's going on?
Does anyone have enough a source or know the name of the plastic case this comes in?
Usually tools like endmills or collets come in containers like that.
Is LPL okay? Five weeks and no posts.
Does this work on ACE-II locks?
I don't believe it does.
In another LPL video he says they need hand picked one pin by one pin.
@1:40 we've all been there.
Satıyormusunuz??? Kaç dolar?? Bende cilingirim
I was under the impression that LPL actually owned the company? Guess im wrong...or?
Hello my name is wildan
I from Indonesian
Been trying for a month to make this work without success. Is it defective? Am I the only one willing to admit this product doesn't work? I'd like to hear from anyone that got this to work....
The tubular pick should be ready to use out of the box with our practice tubular lock. I would recommend varying the compression on the compression knob. Start with it loose and push the tip of the tool straight into the pins 6-10 times and then on the last push give it a slight rotation and see if it opens. If it does not open, tighten the collar by a quarter turn, reset the pick tip and try again. Repeat until it opens. You might also want to add in a second compression o-ring inside the compression collar to provide additional stiffness.
I just figured out how to get
my tubular lock open after about a 1/2 hour's worth of trial-and-error.
Here is what I did to get it consistently opening within a matter of minutes!
I used 2 of the 3 washers that came in the bag. I used the smallest and the medium washer added to the device.
Then, using tension at about 95% of full tightness, I push straight in and out about 5-10 times watching to see that the pins get set before rotating right to left. I just keep doing this until it opens! PATIENCE!
Many Happy Openings !
This helped a lot. Thank you!
@@jaredmeit6127 But did you get it to work?
Make video chennel
Yeah covert instruments products look great but I when I say I (my wife) ordered 2 different item sets never got them or a refund ..... Nothing......
What
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Yo why are you just stealing McNally vids
I rather hear this is not a fluke and thats thats all i have for you today. or i will open my wifes beaver etc....
This is just plain weird....
I'm kind of having a hard time with your tool
This is not real, i bought this pick and it came today, literally the day i bought it, first thing happened, the pick wouldn’t even fit my lock it seems, there was no tension on the lock i could not feel the spring sensation when i pushed on it, it felt like i was forcing the pick into the lock, as a result the first “tension rod” bent, i installed another, change out the picks and still no better results, this is a waste of cash, $70 that i want back and i will be contacting the company, you people should not be ripping off people like this for a bogus tool that cost $70?!!!!
you're just dumb dont wont you didnt get scammed
Plenty of other people use it with success just because you suck doesnt mean the tool does, this is a fine art not something you can try for 20 mins get frustrated and give up on
@@Spacecadet3890 okay smart guy explain how a tool with a wider diameter fits in a lock with a small one. Come on here trying to insult people with your dumb self thinking you’re smart. There are other tools exacting like this with multiple diameter tools in a set that can fit a wider variety of locks that this cannot which happen to be cheaper than this one tool. Go argue with your mother kid.