The rise and fall of Fernando Alonso in F1
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- Fernando Alonso will go down in F1 history as one of the greats, but his career was rarely straightforward. In this video Edd Straw charts the ups and downs from the double world champion's career, from his emergence at the back of the grid with Minardi, to his success with Renault, two controversial stints with McLaren and a Ferrari stint that promised so much and never quite delivered. Which of his non-title-winning seasons was as good as his championship years of 2005-06? Find out what we think by watching the video, and let us know in the comments what you think were his best and worst moments!
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2040:
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2085: Jesus christ how is he still alive
@@zenon459 2090: Fernando Alonso is still driving inside a coffin
@@Ex0ticbr4d.KR7 582948283: holy shit he got another 5820 world champions
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for renault... again
2100: Alonso comes out of retirement yet again for the 2nd time
He still has 2 WDC's which is an immense achievement, and yes, he made poor decisions at the wrong times but he still has a lot to be proud of and his 2012 season will go down as a classic. For me, he is still one of the all time greats along with Hamilton
There is a huge contrast between his raw talent and his personality.
I remember back in 2012-2013 95% percent of people regarded him as the best driver on the grid, now its like nothing happened amazing how quickly people forget.
ikr, he's being overshadowed by Hamilton's success.
I haven't forgotten.
I agree.
@@coulthard2006 Not really. Hamilton and Vettel both outpoint Alonso when misfortune is taken into account in 2012, but we don't mention that, right? Because it never matters when other drivers have bad luck as far as Alonso fanboys are concerned.
2012 was a good season for Alonso but he wouldn't have been anywhere near winning the title without the misfortune of other drivers. Its actually been calculated that he made a net gain in points off the back of other drivers bad luck that year.
Don't get mad. I'm just giving a bit more clarity to the 2012 season. You all ignore how unlucky Hamilton was. Its hilarious.
@@MT-pv2rf the fact that the others had 'bad luck' doesn't make Alonso's effort less amazing. He was in probably the 4th best car on the grid, and he managed to get within 3 points of vettel. Don't @ me
Kinda makes me laugh sometimes how Alonso was in the wrong car at wrong times on so many occasions
Best driver with the worst luck
Then you have hamilton who had the best car in 95% of he's career lol
@@antonlaker6006 lol. Only the Mercedes era has been dominant and even then there was stiff competition from Ferrari in 17 and 18. McLaren were quicker here and there but we're never the clear cut quickest in a season. They were very quick in 2012 but reliability sucked. He's had the fastest car for about 50% of his career
@@venukrithish007 lol in 2007, 2008 and 2012( the best but it broke up a lot) he also had the best car so he did 15 seassons and like 11 times had the best car, he is one of the luckiest drivers
@@joanferra3395 lol hardly the best car in 2007 and 2008. Do you know the meaning of best car in the first place? He's proven himself and is not lucky but very smart
In 2020, Alonso's championships are now the same distance in time away as Schumacher's 94 + 95 championships were to 2011
Lol. Its the full length of Hamilton's career. Alonso has not won a title at any point while Hamilton has been in F1.
Wow, seems strange to me. Started watching in 98. I never saw the first two Schumi championships. But Alonso's 2 were deep into my watching time. And now it is so far back...
@@MT-pv2rf he lost 2 times the championship battle by less than 5 points with the 4th car on the grid, what do you mean??? Also he and lewis finished tied in points in mclaren losing the wdc by 1 point. Hamilton only won 1 championship until hybrid era came to f1, Alonso was way better than him in 2010-2013, he had the worst car out of any championship contender while Mclaren was the best car alongside Redbull
@@MT-pv2rf he finished ahead of him in the standings 4 times in a slower car. He got unlcuky with 10 straight years of dominance from RB and Merc.
Yes, that is how time works
Self inflicted damage to his career, but hes extremely talented. Cant take that away from him.
Yes its just sad to see him like that immensely talented i think on par with hamilton
Ask Ron how to trate a F1 champion like Fernando and you'll rewrite your comment
@SUPREME MEGATRON There was a lot of favouritism for Hamilton in thaf McLaren team. A more fair battle would be something like 2012 Silverstone.
SUPREME MEGATRON Hamilton with the 2nd fastest car on the grid would only manage either 4th or 5th in 2010 to 2013.
@@ciaronsmith4995 for a 3/4 races. Lol
2007 i will never forget Ron Dennis words,
"we're racing Alonso" That sums up the whole 2007 season.
Alonso started the season as the number one driver but McLaren realised that his rookie teammate was faster than him.
@@drybones7475 ….No!....Hamilton was faster than Alonso in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 wasn't he!....Go play a video game make yourself feel better!
@@drybones7475 Mclaren have tried to undermine Alonso since Monaco. When despite winning Ron Dennis told him he shouldn't have won. Lewis had preferential treatment and the team did all they could to sabotage Alonso's chances.
@@rumblefish9 that's what Alonso said. In reality he was livid Hamilton was allowed to challenge him.
herman leauwner actually it summed up Ron's feelings about spygate and Mclaren being excluded from the constructors championship, and lets not forget the record $100,000,000 fine.
For me he is still one of the greatest f1 drivers ever
Winning 2 successive world championships beating Kimi Raikkonen and Michael Schumacher in their prime
Outperforming the Minardi in 2001
Outperforming the Renault in 2008
Outperforming the Ferrari in 2010 to 2014
And finally struggling through the McLaren years
He just made poor choices in which team he drove for but he didn’t know what was to come
And then all those incredible overtakes and races secure his place as one of the best
@@ciaronsmith4995 2014 was a proper trashing , wasn't it?
Alonso annihilated Raikkonen. Deal with it. Kimi isn't that brilliant.
Poor choice is all you need to ruin your carreer. Some drivers made a good choice some dont.
@@ciaronsmith4995 And Kimi was beaten by DC, Heidfeld and Massa. And let's not forget about the proper trashing he received by the only two top- drivers which he faced as teammates in his career.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Sorry no. Prime Kimi is not as good Prime Alonso. 2012 Alonso wiped the floor with Kimi. 2005 it was McLaren's fault and most of the time Alonso outqualified Kimi anyway. Every driver should adapt to a car. If you can't adapt to the car, that's your problem. If the drivers around you like Alonso can do it, so could Kimi. But he didn't.
Yenson my friend
I thought you wanted to hear my voice before starting the race
Just wishing you the best of luck
@@user-bs4ip9kk2w I'm gonna pee in your seat!
@@ssssssssssssssssss50 No please !!
texts you can hear
Alonso is definitely one of the best drivers, no doubt. He has the capability to make lesser cars shine like well polished turds. Unfortunately his insistence or running things his way and public, scathing criticisms of his teams means that he often burns bridges wherever he goes. So even if he wants to return to F1, his choices will be extremely limited or non existent.
i think its not only burning bridges... it also seams that he is not able to give good feedback for developing a car / his way of expressing anger is hurting the work between departments, because he openly starts a blame war - at least that is the way it felt like in the last few years... plus the way he is fighting his own teammates over the years
that said, its more a speculation from the outside
Not to forget his lack of technical knowledge and inability to simply work in a team. It's not just about having things his way.
Sebastian P this is a pure myth that rose after the ferrari years and kept being repeted when he drove shit carss. Fact is, his teammates or the engineers he worked with tell a completely different story.
Grosjean once said that Alonso was able to change his driving style within two laps and give detailed feedback on how the car behaves and what to change and how impressed he was with this trait.
@@jimmymagic2438 'Now we can fight'. That car was the slowest on the grid several times. Alonso really thought it was just the engine at McLaren-Honda while Button was able to tell that it was more. Proof of that we saw in the first year they ran the Renault (and no, that car wasn't build for the Honda, they decided to leave Honda very early the year before). Chief Forghieri said that Alonso can't develop a car. Google it, you'lll find it. And we also saw proof that he's not able to work in a team. Rosberg talked about his political games, the tweet is probably still there, google it. Chandhok in his Q+A for DriveTribe said it as well and Horner in the Beyond the Grid podcast. And these are just some examples.
Alonso was really fast on-track, apart from that he's simply terrible. Can't develop a car, no technical skills, can't work in a team, can't manage a team.
But hey, the entire grid is probably wrong, right? Ferrari didn't want him even for free (against the mechanics' will, I'm sure), RBR didn't even want to talk to him.
Alonso was a great driver but a miserably toxic person whose attitude poisoned every team he worked with. It's very telling that he won his world championships at a team that outright cheated in order to fix a race in his favor.
Alonso is the full package, on and off the track. I have never seen a title campaign like 2012. Absolutely superb. With that dog of a car he took the fight to Vettel (on a far superior car) to the very last race and lost it by 3 points. I wonder what Vettel would have done had they switched places...
That’s what sets him apart from the rest, his ability to squeeze everything out of a bad car, adapting his style. And outside of the car he was always an entertaining character, very expressive (sometimes too expressive) unlike most robots in full PR mode.
He surely has his flaws, and I believe he himself made the bed where he lays now (multimillionaire double world champion, the poor bastard...)
I found it even more impressive given that the McLaren was the fastest car in 2012 and he beat Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button by a fair margin.
The Ferrari was a terrible car in 2012, especially in qualifying.
McLaren managed to beat itself in a very impressive way back in 2012.
yes,he can. Just look up Monza 2008 where a young Vettel won from Start to Finish in a at the time inferiour Torro Rosso.( Where basically the renmants of the Minardi Team at the Time)
Judge a driver not by how he performs with a bad car, but by how much he dominates with a good car. Alonso dominated 2005 and his only real flaw in his career is Lewis narrowly outperforming him 2007. I think Alonso would eventually wear Lewis down, but clearly the other happened quickly. That’s what happens when you put two A1 drivers on the same team. Senna Prost, Alonso Hamilton. Can’t really think of much other but there were talks of Verstappen Hamilton. Maybe a Vettel Verstappen in the future for RB
Amazing Sunday driver who would almost always outperform his machinery. Absolutely terrible politician though, and not the guy to have around a team when things go wrong in performance.
consistently outperformed his machinery and - for the most part - his teammates too
Completely disagree. If you want someone to have around when things go wrong in performance .. than you want to have Alonso in your car so he can save your job by driving the shit out of his machinery.
Why do you think Boullier didn‘t get fired much earlier? 😅
@@jimmymagic2438 why do you think McLaren were so good in 2019? Sure, if Sainz finished 6th than Alonso would've done so easily, but had he stayed the team probably wouldn't be capable of 6th
Ferrari said it best, or luca himself on beyond the grid. With Michael, he'd never bad mouth the team and stick with them through the difficult times. With Fernando in tough situations, the head would be down and questions would be raised as to why they weren't winning or performing. Was evident in his final McLaren stint. That's the difference
@@sergeantsupreme4395 today's f1 is all about engineering....least to do with drivers.....this is my reason for choosing alonso as my best....irrespective of succes....
If only he had accepted the Red Bull contract in 2009 for the 2010 season onwards....
My favorite driver/racer since the death of my hero in 94
ahh screw that 94 hero
Accepted the RB contract? In no fantasy was this ever going to happen at that point as no driver in their right mind would have turned down Ferrari for Red Bull back then. Everyone knew Alonso was joining Ferrari as far back as 2008.
Stop living in a pipe dream
I thought it was for 2008 after he departed McLaren they nearly signed him, according to Horner and it seems news articles at the time. According to Alonso he turned them down six times :D
I don't think Alonso can be blamed for turning down Red Bull in 2008. Nobody could have predicted them dominating to that extent in the early 2010's.
They had money, but so had Toyota but that didn't buy success. They had Newry, but he was perceived as a busted flush by then after the debacle of the McLaren MP4-18. In 08 they were beaten by their junior team.
*Newey
*"But his Formula 1 story might already be over."*
Saying this about a man who raced 18 years in F1...
He could still win another championship with Renault in 2022
@@drybones7475 fat chance of that
@@anonymousarmadillo6589 Kiss my feet when EL Plan works in 2022 and he gets a 3rd and final drivers title
Watching this after he netted 4/5 podiums on offer. How time flies.
Has been my favorite for as long as I can remember. Still enjoy watching his journey expand past F1.
im sure you are lol. dakar is so cool. lol
He’s toxic.
He’s coming back to Reno in 2021
He is an amazing driver, and beat Schumacher fair and square, and almost brought Ferrari a championship or two if it wasn’t for some small bad luck. Shame on the McLaren being such a midfield car. Would love to see him do a final farewell year at Renault and bag a couple podiums
Hey hey...
You're in luck my friend
ohhhhhhhhh
Really like the video, but I just don´t get the graph.. :o)
Yeah me neither it went down from 2001 to 2002 as if Renault was worse than Minardi
@@nicorosbergf1fan783 it's because he didn't race in 2002 as he was 'relegated' to being a test driver even though in the long term it was the best thing he could've done...
Also I don't get why the graph was so low in 2011, Alonso wasn't that bad that year, the car just wasn't good enough for a title but he managed to get podiums and top 5 finish on almost every race when Massa was struggling to stay in the top 10
@@arnaudj.5314 His graph makes no sense, also for Button's video, since sometimes he's
taking into account the driver's performance only, and sometimes only the car performance, and sometimes both. He should make an explanation about the way he rates on his graph.
I remember back when I was like a 6 year old, watching him compete with schumacher in that blue and yellow Renualt was so awesome
with pacifiers obviously
Just please come back for that third f1 title Fernando.
No thanks
@@Sparrowash97 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I mean he’s coming back but I super doubt he’ll win another title.
@@Sparrowash97 well he is ☺️
BRUH , how do you expect him to win a 3rd title ? Even if gets a seat at Mercedes , Lewis will still beat him
Alonso winning a race this year will make him breaks the record for the longest gap between two F1 wins. In terms of time AND number of races
What Alonso did in 2010 to 2014 f1 seasons with almost 3rd fastest car and challenge Red bull dominance is
legendary driving masterclass.
2010 and 2014 in the 3rd best car against Red Bull?
This is the problem with Alonso fanboys. Half of them have never even watched the seasons they talk about.
In 2010 Ferrari was the 2nd best car behind Red Bull and Alonso made a load of mistakes that year.
In 2014 it was Mercedes who were dominant, not Red Bull.
@@MT-pv2rf yes....its always redbull or mercedes dominance....never the team which nando drove..
@@MT-pv2rf In 2010 McLaren was the 2nd best car. Alonso took the 3rd best car to 2nd. That's better than what Webber, Button and Hamilton achieved in their stronger cars.
@@thatcarguy8300 Even Fernando himself in his Beyond The Grid interview says that from 2010-2012 Ferrari had a better package than McLaren, but I'm sure you know better than him.
Imagine Alonso replacing Vettel at Ferrari.
Not gonna happen for several reasons, but my god that would be 2007 all over again
You spelled Raikonnen wrong.
I don't think he still has the pace of his best years and I think Leclerc would beat him, probably not by much though.
Such a shame Alonso has only 2 WDC when an inferior driver like Vettel has 4, he really had the talent to match Schumacher record but made so many poor career decisions.
Would only be better having him replace Bottas.
besides the bridges he burned anyway, alonso is the kind of driver who needs a clear nr1 status, else hes not gonna be very cooperative.
i hope we see him back, im not a fan but i do like strong personalities, they certainly make things more interesting. its cool that everyone these days is very friendly and nice but in the end sports like f1 are also entertainment and having a villain or a bad guy to boo on is also great.
@@alexveldhuis6004 you did too. Its Räikkönen btw
Its beautiful to watch this video today, after Alonso got his podium
Good job The Race! I really like these videos and the graph is a very good idea in my opinion. Keep them coming. Edd, you're great as always.
Time for an update man. He's back
Imagine if Alonso stayed with ferrari…
Great docudrama. Thanks Edd Straw!
Alonso could’ve won that 2018 title if he’d have stayed at Ferrari instead of vettel
1:54 That is just a beautiful F1 car, not too many flaps hanging off it, gorgeous livery, oh take me back.
We need a part two of this. The rise and fall and rise of Alonso
It's always your junior in team that will start to make things difficult , Fernando Alonso - Lewis Hamilton , Sebastian Vettel - Daniel Ricciardo , Sebastian Vettel - Charles Leclerc , Alain Prost - Ayrton Senna , Mark Webber - Sebastian Vettel .....
And Mansell- Piquet, Villeneuve- Pironi and Rosberg- Hamilton
@@matthiascerebri3315 Hamilton and Rosberg were both experienced veterans by the time they became teammate's in 2013. Plus Hamilton joined Romberg's team and won 3-0 before 2016.
@@MT-pv2rf Yeah, but Rosberg was still a few years younger
@@matthiascerebri3315 He was like 6 months younger but i completely agree with you i never feared a teammate in terms of qually speed like i did Rosberg. Rosberg is hugely underrated, he was mega quick i enevr feared Alonso as much as him in qually albeit it was 1 year and certainly not Button and the rest.
2014, Vettel most likely just triggered his clause so not really a fair comparison as he knew he'd go to Ferrari, also Charles just and just got more points, Vettel did have bad luck with the penalty, issues in quali, and Russia engine blowing. So I wouldn't say Seb has had tooo bad experience with the juniors :P
2012, the best I've seen from one driver.
It's amazing how the Brit F1 press continues to shamelessly peddle the bullshit premise that the 2007 mess was all on Alonso - completely ignoring Lewis's role and the fact that he instigated the whole thing, and ignoring Ron's utter mismanagement of the fiasco. This video is a perfect example, with the narrator painting the Hungary mess as if it all started with Alonso delaying his pit exit to hold Lewis up. Unreal. That's just willful misrepresentation of the facts. These 'journalists' did the same crap when they were at Autosport.
But unlike Hamilton, Alonso threatened to blackmail McLaren with the spy gate scandal. Don't forget that dick move.
Lewis and his father blackmailed Ron and actually protested their teammate. Unbelievable.
@pete smyth You must be new to F1.
@@ajunta2270 ...I think pete smyth knows exactly what he's talking about, on the other hand I'm sure your a Hamilton fanboy with your head up his ass!....Now go play a video game there Winner!!
2004 is an interesting one to watch ! His race pace was really good against Trulli, he just started races at the back multiple times after problems in quali or just because Trulli was quicker the saturday. But when the race came, he still managed to finish just behind or in front sometimes after climbing from the back of the grid.
I would have loved to see what he might have done at the 2004 Monaco Grand Prix (That I just finished watching) if Ralf, 1 lap behind, didn't let him pass in the middle of the tunnel and caused Alonso to lose control of the car in the marbles and then crash.
As I'm typing this the 2021 campaign just ended and yes, Fernando drove a great season in an uncompetitive Alpine. Which has proven a valuable point that this video brings up, if Fernando's on your team switch teams because your cars about to suck.
what are you on? alpine was not uncompetitive last year
His skills are absolutely off the charts. He definitely deserves to be among goats
One of the GOATs. If he had better luck, he'd have several more championships...
I wish he won one with Ferrari.
I remember 2013 Spain well. It was a highpoint as a f1 fan. Good video, I don't really get what the graph thing is about.
I'm here now and he's back!
Here after the podium
I do wonder if the 2008 singapore GP karma'd the rest of his career. (i personally believe he knew/had a part in it) ( not looking to argue i just do) He was always unlucky...
Maybe he was not involved in the decision, but he definitely knew. His strategy for the race without the crash was suicidal
Totally
Your not looking to argue, because you havn't bothered to check up the facts.
Alonso was out on track, meaning that if he were to know about it the team would have had to radio him, which everybody would have been able to hear after the race was over. But it wasn't, so Alonso is clear of any wrong doing.
@@Orcawhale1 Could they not of possibly discussed it before the race though o.o
My favourite f1 driver and one of the best racers ever. Through the highs and the lows he was always worth watching
He is the reason I got into F1. Seeing him in that R26 always makes me happy. And him being in Ferrari was a cherry on top. Truly my all time favourite driver. Also why is the British side of F1 always acting like Lewis had nothing to do with anything ? I cant stand Lewis.
He made a habit of dragging "lesser" equipment to the front. The Renault car's he won his titles in were 2nd fastest over the seasons. Similarly to Senna and Schumacher, controversy and aggravation seemed to follow him around.
i hope to see him in F1 again... some of the few drivers who can maximize the tool, and challenge Lewis on the grid.
He wont. Alonso wants a championship car and thanks to his 2nd mclaren stint means mercedes ferrari or redbull wont want to have him and other teams cant afford him. Shame for him, he did outperform most of his cars
@SUPREME MEGATRON hamilton had many more tests and tire tests than alonso, but it is still a great year
u do, most people wouldnt want
@SUPREME MEGATRON usa alonso was stuck behind hamilton had better race pace, japan same pace only in canada lewis was dominant
@SUPREME MEGATRON fuji 07 said it all for me
That graph is something else >>
Can someone tell me difference in FI/ F2 / F3??
Who is here after Alonso went to Aston Martin ?
Still one of the greatest F1 drivers next to Hamilton, Schumi & Vettel 👍🏼
In terms of raw talent he was probably the best driver of his generation. He just did not know how to play the team game very well. He seemed to almost have a talent for picking the right team at the wrong time. His attitude also hurt his chances because he has a nasty habit of burning his bridges.
He was much better than Vettel, typically he would have won the championship in 2018 with the SF71H.
Vettel is very good at managing a race from pole in a dominant car but when he is pressured into wheel to wheel battles and fighting in the pack he chokes almost everytime (spinning or crashing) while Alonso is incredible in these situations.
I think he is better than Hamilton too as he was capable to greatly overperform with mediocre cars while Ham has been unremarkable whenever he didn't have the best car on the grid. I give it to him that he almost never make a mistake though.
Ironically I didn't really like Alonso at Renault and his two WDC were good performances but nothing crazy, but during his years at Ferrari he was almost mystical.
@@ciaronsmith4995 bruh y'all need to watch 2009 and 2010 and 2012 seasons to see Vettel did fight a tough fight for the title and can actually battle
Ciaron Smith ya because winning the two best season of the last decade (2010 & 2012) makes you a “crap” driver 🙄
Ciaron Smith keep convincing yourself of that 😆
His first try at the indy 500 was devastating because he was on such a good trajectory for placing high or even winning, but that engine was cursed.
Sato easily overtook Alonso and Kanaan in quick succession and them left them for dust not long before Alonso's car developed a problem.
Alonso was clearly not in a trajectory to win it all all. He remained relatively stagnant in that period of the race.
@3:55 The Race forgot the context, Hamilton started it first by not following agreed upon team strategy and did not Alonso through during qualifying. Alonso had the inferior strategy the race qualy on that prior week
How Hamilton went rogue and initiated the sequence of events is always ignored by the British biased media.
Best driver ever in my mind
But luck screwed him hard
Still, I’m waiting for his return.
@relay35 Sorry fuck. Hamilton didn't make the choice to go to Mercedes. Mercedes came to him. So, luck is something you don't have any control over.
@Diamond Dog While you're waiting, get some grammar lessons.*
Wouldn't really call it luck. His attitude is what ruined it for him. It probably wasn't helped that Briatore was his manager.
@@spookyadvisor6270 nice.
Are we talking about luck? Did you watch 2005 season? He won just thank to Kimi misfortunes.
Get a load of this guy's bad luck
Alonso didn't have bad luck. He's a toxic person and made bad choices.
@@MT-pv2rf he's not toxic... all the ferrari guys still love him, McLaren still has a fantastic relationship, so has Renault
Someone could argue he made bad choices, but I mean with the way team strength shifts in F1 I think he was always just a bit unlucky.. No one (not even the teams themselves) can predict their strength for the next season.
Bad luck would be someone like Raikkonen almost taking the title only to be undone by constant unreliability problems
Alonso has made his own luck. Great driver undoubtedly but, in my opinion, a terrible human being.
I have researched this quite thoroughly and still can not find any place called Chiner.
End of the video aged like fine butter :D
Say what you want, but Alonso remains the only driver to beat Schumacher at his peak.
Hakkinen did too
Only Hakkinen did. Schumacher was no longer in his prime.
@@MatthewLee8383 Naaaah, you must have a very selective memory. Hakkinen won when schumi was transitioning to ferrari in 98 and broke his leg on the 2nd half of the season in 99. Irvine nearly won the 99 championship with the assistance of schumi towards the end of the year.
@@ciaronsmith4995 LOL who won the championship in 2003? Was it Kimi? And in 2005? I'm think it was a certain driver named Fernando.
@@ciaronsmith4995 ahhhh the what ifs, lovely isnt it? Too bad where it matters the most, it didnt count for jack. Dont forget that kimi won the 07 championship just by sheer luck too.
For a rookie, he sure has had a long history
I hope the F1 teams don't take Alonso back, so many young skilled talent in the world. Alonso has had his peak for f1
He still got it.....he is still the best on the grid let alone any yound driver...
Ahhhh.Why did he leave Ferrari at the end of 2014 if he could have been there beyond 2016. Potentially him, Vettel and Hamilton fighting for the title in 2017 and 2018. Wow.
Yeah. Leaving Ferrari was the worst decision ever.
He should have extended that ferari deal
Definitely, 2017, 18 and 19 could have gone hugely different compared to with Vettel in that car.
But if Vettel hadn't been there in Ferrari, maybe the far wouldn't have been that good, I'm sure. It would just have been even worse or not as good at all
I'm just wondering if he had extended the deal at Ferrari whether he'd be able to challenge for the title after 2017. I think in 2018 he might have gained enough of a lead in points up until Monza to sustain it barely until the end or at least given us a good title fight.
i am not sure alonso is as good as hamilton. and Mercedes surely was the best car in those years. so even if some of sebs Performances were mistakes rather than freak luck, i am not sure i can rate him above vettel
This remains the question. Frankly, Ferrari was done with him so would they want to keep him longer? And part of why the Ferrari didn't go in those years was in part because of Alonso's lack of technical insights.
I made the quite subjective observation that, in the hybrid era in Formula 1, the qualifying has got an increasing importance. So, even seeing the mistakes he did in recent years, I would have seen Fernando Alonso even getting a really hard time against Sebastian Vettel in the same car (given that he is one of the greatest qualifiers in F1 history and an absolute force on one single lap).
@@julianruther4550 Look at the conference betten Vettel and Raikkonen and Alonso and Raikkonen. Vettel hasn't been his great self ever since the non-hybrid era. Also, nothing changes in terms of the importance of qualifying since the non-hybrid era. Heck, I would say that the opposite is true. We have way more fights now than we did before and even the non-stop teams have become a factor which they weren't in the past. (Ok, Petrov was, lol)
@@djoetma ? Check McLaren Grand Prix Driver on Amazon Prime, they talk about how Alonso gives amazing input on the car compared to vandoorne
Do Hakkinen next!
Sounds Like The Channel 5's Announcer's Voice Heard On This Video
2022: the rise and fall and rise again of Alonso.
According to various F1 insiders, Mercedes signed Lewis Hamilton in 2013 because the Mercedes board did not want Fernando Alonso in their car because of how his time at McLaren ended. Imagine the insane number of title he’d have won at Mercedes. His personality and reputation of destroying teams earned at McLaren cost him many more titles.
How sad
3:55 you didn’t say why he held Hamilton up in the pits though. I feel like it’s relevant
Fernando never tell he’s 41 and still out pacing the younger 20 year old drivers in a less competitive car
Should take all of 9 mins! He never found those old cool Renault sunnies again did he
And rise again 😎🔥
One of the greatest of all time. Unluckily he couldn't materialise this into what could've been 3 more championships (2007, 2010, 2012)...
The adaptability he showed in other racing series really validates my point. Being right on the pace in Indy, winning Daytona, the WEC title, Le Mans twice, and recently the Dakar. Whenever he decides to retire he will have left a visible mark in the Motorsport world and he will be regarded as an even better driver in retrospect.
If Graham Hill won the triple crown he will go on to develop his own Super Triple Crown, with championships in F1, WEC and Indy. Mark my words
You could have mentioned the incident during testing for the 2015 season. Think it was a starting point for the miserable years with McLaren.
The miserable years at McLaren started in 2013, this was their first year without a podium since 1980.
If I had to pick one driver, to drive for my life in a random car, I’d pick Alonso. He could outdrive the capabilities of any car.
Agree. He could outqualify a sport car in a Dacia Sandero.
Arnaud J. Yeah... that’s why he didn’t quali for Indy before... suuuure
its almost criminal that Alonso is only a 2x champ. The guy should be 4x
if everything went his way he could have been a 5x champ as well, '07, '10, and '12, shame that he never fulfilled his true potential especially at ferrari
Could've would've shouldve; ultimately dont count
Ciaron Smith no way
@@ciaronsmith4995 No way, hahahahah. Anyone who says it, hasn't properly followed the careers of both drivers and I am by no means an Alonso - fan.
Ciaron Smith Alonso won more championships and put cars that weren’t the fastest in championship winning positions granted Kimi also did it in 03
Some bad luck, some right black marks on his career too (2008 season, Singapore, etc)
Definitely a "what might have been" career for him, even though he won x2 WCs.
He isn’t able to develop/test a car into a Championship car. Other than his first stint at Renault, he left teams with cars worse than when he first arrived at those respective teams. Alonzo is one of the fastest drivers in history, but you have to be a great developer/test driver to succeed..
Watching this in 2023 needs an update!! EL PLAN.
You missed out two massive incidents in Alonso's career. Being at the centre of (but never reprimanded for) Spy-gate and Crash-gate.
Fernando appeals to me for a lot of reasons, but given he’s one of my three favourite drivers (not “best”, “favourite”) alongside Rubens Barrichello and Nico Rosberg, they are all portrayed as villains in the media and are all underdogs.
We could have added him to the list of drivers Ferrari is considering
"I'll take 'articles that age like milk' for $100, please."
Imagine him and Hamilton at Mercedes post Nico Rosberg...
Their domination would have been even more absolute!
72defender Hamilton would decimate him ?
They would have been at each other's throats again.
PassiveSmoking I think this time around they would have been more mature about it.
TitanMode My point was more about Mercedes being more dominant by winning even more races over that period.
@PassiveSmoking ... Alonso and LH had no issues with each other. Its the same as Leclerc and Vettel. The media wants them to be rivals but everytime I see them after races their laughing and fooling around.
To be fair if you're not driving a RedBull or Mercedes from 2010-2021 your career is considered a "fall" if you were a WDC prior.
Good enough explanation of his career for a 10 minute video. There would just be so much more to further explain and tell, but it wwouldn't fit in even a whole documentary
When the guy puts an underpowered McLaren on 5th place in USA you know that means a tonne more than winning in a mercedes. ALONSO FOREVER
Sorry but Pierre Gasly put a Toro Rosso in 4th 2018 Bahrain... Aw man, didn't know Pierre was a legendary driver.
cfg_Forumic lol
Glad he’s gone
@@cfg_form2122 Shut up, you know it's just different mate, that Mclaren was just worse than the Toro Rosso Gasly drove, and he's done that more than once, I don't remember where exactly but he took that dogshit of a car all the way up to 7th while his teammate was in 19th, I haven't seen Gasly doing that have you? in fact, I haven't seen such a massive difference between teammates so shut up.
Well this aged badly following P3 in Bahrein 2023
I believe that being part of a good driver is choosing good teams, seeing where teams are going or helping to build a team to be successful. People who say Hamilton just got lucky when he joined Merc are short sighted to me, I mean the same could be said for Senna joining McLaren. Alonso just seems to pick the wrong teams at the wrong times.
My respect for him increased as he got in to progressively worse cars. Didn't like him when he was in Renault... but by the end I had a full appreciation for his abilities.
Alonso was one the best drivers, but he made bad decisions:
_Leaving Mclaren at the end of 2007 while it was a top team
_Not joining Red Bull in 2008 while there was Adrian Newey knowing that there were new regulations
_Leaving Ferrari at the end of 2014. He probably knows that he missed the chance to win the 2017 and 2018 championships
_Choosing to stay at McLaren at the end of 2016 while there was a seat available at Mercedes.
2010 was his best shot at Ferrari. I think he could have won the 2010 championship if he didn't waste points in Monaco, Valencia, Silverstone, Spa. But ultimately, the team chose the wrong strategy in the last race.
2010 was a weird season in which no driver was nearly flawless. Apart from his win in Bahrain Alonso was pretty mediocre in the first half of the season, making uncharacteristic mistakes (such as his jump start in China), but he was much better in the second half, until that fateful Abu Dhabi Grand Prix of course...
Looks like his ego got the best of him. He's an amazing driver though no doubt.
Shame, would have liked to see him in the mix when Seb and Lewis were at it. Ok m guessing he was expecting McLaren to do a Brawn racing winning the championship in their debut season
he is coming back in 2021,cant wait
Alonso burned bridges and blew his own career to bits. It's a shame, because he could've gone to Mercedes or returned to Ferrari, or even shift to Red Bull-Honda in the near future, but he grandly pissed all of these teams off.
Great video! Glad to see this channel doing well after Autosport's bullshit :)
I don't think Mercedes want to sign him. Mercedes signed a deal with Hamilton on 2012, and as you may know Hamilton and Alonso as teammate would be a disaster. RB did try to sign him a deal in 2009 and yeah maybe he could join RB back in 2010 and got more titles.
He was never going to Mercedes after blackmailing and costing them $100M fine in 2007.
Mercedes was never a possibility with Hamilton there and not because of 2007, because it’d be impossible to develop a car to suit both driving styles.
@@mattjc1021 I don't think car set up would be an issue as it is often with Kimi and Vettel. Hamilton and Alonso can drive just about everything you throw at them. I just don't think Mercedes would be willing to sign a driver who damaged their reputation and cost them so much money in fines. You've got to remember *Spygate* is perhaps the biggest reason Merc decided to start their own team to distance themselves from all the drama going on at McLaren.
He has a history of being a brilliant driver and arguable outdriving the actual performance of his car. The problem was if he wasn’t at the top he would blame the team for everything and not give them any real credit for when they did well.
After that he then would just burn all bridges to any team he thought were not good enough and so no top team really wants him anymore as they just feel it will set them up for a poor working relationship
14rs2 I mean he blamed Honda a lot but they were dog shit and didn’t do much right when he was there
this is wrong. Alonso always recognise his team and also sharing his price money with them
The Key difference between him and Hamilton in their overall careers is that one is patient, and the other isn't. However, his time in Ferrari and Mclaren shows he was willing to give an extra mile. Which is something he should have considered in the late 2000s. Compared to Hamilton, he was going all over the place.
He still won 30 or 31 races in his career,can't remember which though. I'd consider it one of the best f1 careers of all time even though he was his own worst enemy
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As a Spaniard so glad he brought light of F1 to the country, now we have Carlitos who seems much more level headed
Carlos Saint achieved what Alonso couldn't, in four years of trying, by securing McLaren's first podium since Australia 2014, at last years Brazilian GP.
@@MattGP01 I don't even understand why this M T man is watching every Alonso content to answer to everyone if he don't like him
Poor desicions. 2 could've been 8
"Fernando, it's Vitaly" ;)
LOOK AT HIM FLY IN AN ASTON he’s always been a legend 💥💥