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had a look down the railway line yesterday. That entrance on the hill is a nightmare when slightly wet! there is easier access further down now. The story we were told was that you were not allowed to grow any food in the soil on St Mary's island
Thanks for update folk
Some housing areas you are not allowed to hang washing out so as not to make the area unsightly....this is quite common........it has nothing to do with contamination!
@Jesiah Ayden that is a scam don't do it
Same here in Scotland . Low level waste from Rosyth Dockyard and Crombie RNAD used to buried at Lathalmond Naval stores depot . They had a massive landfill site that stayed in use privately even after the stores shut. No idea when the practice stopped.
They also had a railway network linking all the local sites , all abandoned now . A local group is rebuilding the railway inside the old stores depot though and doing a great job.
And the "not allowed to hang your washing out" has nothing to do with radiation.
so ridiculous
This happens more than you think,
I worked on a site that was converted from a RAF, MU (Maintenance Unit) to a industrial estate, they found a full heap of WW2 gauges that were back lit with a uranium, they were buried and are there to this day, right in the middle fenced off.
kingmoor
not radium backlit?
I went to Chatham dockyard loads of times as a kid. I loved it ! This was during late 80s and I remember there was a Submarine there, one of the main attractions! ... in the dry dock for quite some time, I wonder if it was one of the submarines being decommissioned?! It was quite a sight to see. Also around that time they had a Sunderland flying boat being restored there ... we built Airfix models of it .... I think they were used for anti submarine warfare from what I’ve read so would make sense ... does anyone else remember this ?!
A possible reason why they may not be allowed to hang laundry outdoors there is because airbourne nuclear particles are shaped like “Bucky balls” that stick to everything. If that is case, I certainly would not want to live there, because you would also be inhaling the particles, and once inside you the damage never ends.
low level waste will not be of concern...like you say, it's waste PPE.
It's more than likely to have basically zero contamination however, as it's impossible to confirm 100%, it has to be treated as such.
The rest will be old machinery/IT/Tools/maybe waste cutting fluids.
Again, there's a chance it may have mild contamination, however, when every gram of material is weighed 'going out' you can bet that every gram of material 'being recovered' is also weighed to balance the books (down to waste swarf ejected to the machine bed).
essentially, the real nasty stuff would be recovered for disposal or 'fuel recovery/reprocessing'
this might explain Chatham people
30 CPM is negligible - you'd get more by standing in Cornwall or large parts of the Peak District in Derbyshire.
As for the washing - I'm not allowed to have a washing line either and it's purely for the look of the place, pretty much like those people on Canary Wharf who aren't allowed to have curtains.
Your channel is top notch. The intro segments are brilliantly immersive.
I live in the local area, that railway was used to not only take out the nuclear waste from the Chatham Dockyard, it was also used to take out the top layer of soil before they started building the housing estate on St Mary's Island, apparently you're not allowed to dig down to a certain depth on St Mary's Island.
I think the main danger is asbestos as large amounts was dumped on and in St Mary's Island.
www.historicmedway.co.uk/chatham/dockyard/stmarysisland.htm
Ian, you should check out the Trawsfynydd plant near Ffestiniog in Wales - I recorded readings of 50 plus in the area using that same geiger counter back in 2017.
I had family living on St Mary's Island, they were not allowed to grow veg or fruit in the gardens to eat , due to background radiation levels.
That’s interesting thanks for sharing folk :)
Very good, now you got me interested damn it..lol. I would love to know what's burried there, and can it be further processed to make it safe...and if now, who had the bright idea to dump it there...lol. So many questions. As for that geiger counter, is there any way to make it more accurate?..mabee some aditional instruments to get a better reading? A long range um...mic? is it?..lol I don't know, some addon to make it better..lol
That device unfortunately doesn't detect alpha rays. So you won't detect uranium.
@@iamjustsaying.2239 A way more expensive device. Not something bought off Amazon 😜
Awesome video guys. Subscribed & really looking forward to a channel binge!
Well done guys. Another cracking video.
Fantastic video folk as always
You said it yourself, the Cobalt 60 would decay away over 20-30 years, so there is nothing to find, anything under 50 is just normal radiation levels. And Carbon 14 is a Beta radiation emitter, which means it would barely penetrate the most outer layer of skin, let alone the full thickness of skin. So unless you ate it you'd be fine, I guess breathing it too, which I doubt as it's rarely airbourne in large quantities in an open space like that
Well isn’t that just fantastic?
Having seen a few of their Geiger Counter videos lately, it is clear that these guys have ZERO understanding of "radiation".
I wish they would just stop and go back to plain exploring interesting places!
Either that, or someone with decent knowledge and better kit (possibly better Intel) got involved with them.
@@underwaterdick Agreed, I enjoy their location exploring, I liked all of the video except the Geiger counter parts.
The fun thing about artificially created carbon14 contamination is that the wood samples taken when carbon 14 dating is used will generate dates way in the future.
@@lewisdoherty7621 that's because carbon dating is now slightly ineffective since we started dropping nukes in the 30s. Still the most accurate way of dating stuff.
This has always been knowledge in the Medway towns. I heard some waste was stored on the other side of the wall from the kiddies pool at the Strand. If I lived there I would be more concerned about houses being built on old plague sites!
The changes in background readings are almost certainly due to differing amounts of granite in the bedrock.
Try it around anywhere in Britain.
Especially around villages where a lot of the buildings are made of granite sat on granite bedrock. You'll find larger sways in radiation.
there's no granite there.
@@public.public Isn't there?
I've just looked into it - the bedrock is indeed granite. Granite, chalk, and limestone (as usual).
wow! at one point you nearly got to half of what's classed as background radiation!
"what are these things" - that concrete block is a monument for the track alignment. No longer used due to the computer age
brilliant, thanks guys. I want to follow your footsteps!
Around 21.50 on the video did anyone else notice a person running in the background from left to right of the screen?
@@Muscles_McGee = Now, now, no need to take the piss mate! :-D Have a nice weekend!
Happy new year IKS :)
Difference between this place and Greenham is this is a place that's acknowledged as somewhere that's nuclear contaminated. You'd need a JCB and to live there for about 1000 years before you'd be at any sort of risk from it - but that's the difference. As for "government doesn't want you to know" - if that's supposed to be a secret it's one of the worst-kept secrets ever. If there was any risk at all the contents would have been moved to LLWR in Drigg or Sellafield if it was that bad. It's known what's in there and known there's no risk. Not worth doing anything with. A determined terrorist with a van full of military explosives couldn't create a health risk beyond deafening people there. By the way, story at the end, is actually fairly common with restrictive covenants - it's probably more common with new houses than people think - it certainly wouldn't be anything to do with that site.
By the way, a large chunk of that area was a corporation depot. It presumably belonged to Gillingham Borough Council. It was outside of the Naval Dockyard.
Don't let a bit of overgrowth fool you, those rail lines are in immaculate condition.
And also note, water is used to shield lethally irradiated spent fuel rods, and make them safe to work around. So if waste is buried under that water, you won't detect it until their containers break down, and the contents start to leach out some time in the future.
Thanks interesting information:)
You're very welcome. Unfortunately I can't tell you how I know, but you can bank on the fact that they submerged the shit to thwart good people such as yourself.@@IKS-Exploration
A rule about not hanging out your washing is generally because the body corporate want the place to look nice.
radioactivity is a factor however another fact is that all heavy metals are highly toxic and that toxicity never falls.
And shallow burials in public places is more than merely incompetant it is criminally dangerous.
does Chatham glow in the dark
From what's in the video, no. Just background.
Scary to think that this is what the governments tells us slaves but what else is being buried that we don't get told about. Great video Ian, have a great 2020. xx
Very interesting....... I would think that the water must be on the cap above the waste, years of leaves and rotting veg making it smell rough....... Happy New Year to you Ian, and the rest of the crew.
anychance if your in reading near the wokingham road in earley i would like to see what your gigameter says near the old fuel depot
Ian need to bring your detector to old thrift stores old watches will drive it crazy any Thank's be careful there's old video of disposal sites look Nuclear Control Commision!!!; )
Still got a piece of HMS Triumphs flight deck in a cupboard somewhere, a treasure given to me by a navy cutter who was a friend of my uncle where they were stripping her back prior to scrapping, to a little lad she was about the biggest thing a kid could see, a shame. My uncle once took me round his submarine when he was stationed there, was made to feel like royalty by the on duty crew and had a look through the periscope, tried out a bunk, was given more biscuits and sweets than I could carry and even given a navy flat cap which sadly got eaten by one of our dogs, I was soooo upset but I do have fond fond memories of Chatham docks.
You are not allowed to grow food on st mary island due to all the waste buried there.
That pond with the scaffolding above it,is weird. Why would you have scaffolding like that ? Unless you were dropping something into it ?
Iks u guys have a wonderful new years can't wait to see wats in store from u guys in 2020
A detection event doesn't mean the level is high so II'm not sure I'd use CPM alone.
Have a fantastic new year guys
We're gonna hang out the washing on the Siegfried Line,
Have you any dirty washing, mother dear?
We're gonna hang out the washing on the Siegfried Line,
'Cause the washing day is here.
If the Siegfried line's still there
I live just round the corner from there. Whilst there you were at more risk of smelling one of my farts than from radiation, and I was away when you visited. Also if you are scared of sirens don't do your 'explores' right next to Medway Police Station. The main dumping ground from Chatham Dockyard was on St Mary's Island. Always was. I can't think of any reason why they'd choose to dump anything more dangerous nearer to population than all the other shite the navy had been dumping for nearly 400 years.
defo friends of the earth IKS
Its part of an old training set up.......20:04 Hence the life rings.....Nothing sinister at all!
yeah who cares that nuclear waste is seeping out into the training area....
Not far from that bridge you crossed is an old sewage works that could account for the smell and I have heard that saint marys island was were most of the rubbish was dumped
a lot of the waste is buried under the islands out off the dockyard in the old tunnels under the forts that were bricked up afterwards
With regard to hanging out washing Its prob more to stop the place looking like a 3rd world slum forcing the nittys out and gentrifying it for a better look quite a lot of private/council housing dont allow it now just my opinion
I agree with your thoughts.
Many leasehold flats have these restrictions, as do houses in a historical conservation area.
Just "keeps it looking tidy" you will probably find that flags are banned too. Along being a nautical area, they may not.
I kinda agree but it also some times comes down to environmental issues like factories/plants pollution if you live next to one or if you live next to a restricted area like a air force base because I live next to a air force base that is a 24/7 fast response team for intercepting jets and you can't put a washing out on a line for as something as crazy as if it blows away and gets caught in a jet engine when taking off
Depends who is telling you not to do that.
They cut open the reactors to refuel them so the fumes waft all around and as everyone with enough braincells to constitute a neural network will tell you there is no such thing as a closed system so you can bet those sub reactors weren't completely sealed or enclosed when they were being refueled.
my mum lives in a posh part of Bournemouth and there is a convenient on the house where you are not allowed to put the washing out because it is unsightly
Nothing over normal background radiation detected. Try checking in an old cellar in Granite areas of Cornwall or Scotland if you want to start to see figures likely to cause concern of any sort.
i can't workout if i'm listening to the curious droid or chris packham. on that intro. oh it's you fella. nice. big up that beardage.
A friend of mine lived 200yds from the naval base in Plymouth and was regularly given anti radiation tablets. That and the area is a hot spot for cancer sufferers.
On another note do you remember why Hitachi bailed out of building the new nuclear power stations in the Southwest? The answer was due to our own government at the time saying they would handle the radioactive waste for them but didn't say how. It was found out that they were going to bury it in South Wales in an old mine bought through a shell company which had no legal right to do so! When the truth was leaked via a diligent mining safety expert sent to check on the mines safety as is law he asked the wrong questions and thus put two and two together. Hitachi therefore dropped out of the deal.
Our own governments don't care about the public just their money interests which are tied to the central banking system and they want the interest owed on their money so sod the consequences.
LaZoucheCustomshop that’s deep mate👍🏻🇬🇧
50 CPM is the safe limit for anyone wondering. ☢️
Normal background radiation is typically in the range of 25-75 counts per minute, depending on location and surroundings.
Is C14 accurate as a Dating Measure? Considering how many Nuke tests and contamination have affected background levels?
Yes, C14 is not a by-product of U235 fission nor Pu239 fission.
So who checks the Medway? You were standing around flowing water, readings close to 30. the terrain being of chalk or clay leaves the a filtration thru the chalk to the water table or surface run off, with everything heading to the river.
Did you get in with the waders then
The medway Council have a possible plan to turn the old line into a public foot path in the future
How about BNFL Capenhurst in Cheshire?
Be careful that will be a bus lane soon
I've had higher readings from my pants
Really enjoyed that, it was fascinating and I had no idea. Great work!
Why is it weird to find a pipeline bridge near an industrial estate.?. 🤦♂️..
They ban hanging washing out in regeneration areas because it's something that working class people do.
People that buy half million plus apartments don't want to see washing on a line.
nice joke
Excellent as always, really thought provoking stuff. Happy new year.
All the nuclear waste was dumped off shore in the sea. Obviously not on land, see the video documentary on YT. Fun video through.
CZcams is being cool again sick vid I need more of this
I worked in Barrow in Furness and the kids on barrow island were yellow rake thin and even thinner hair. Makes you think
Nice vid. No need to worry about sirens in medway, it's like london, it's always someone else.
Have a safe and productive 2020😉
Platform Strange hahahaaaaa
the pond is the original dump they didn't manage to back fill it all
Happy new years to the iks crew. Thanks for the videos and giving us a chance to see these places.
You know about the planning condition on the new houses on St Mary's Island, right? No growing vegetables...
Let's go for a dip folks
oh no ive got carbon 14 in me , arhh am I going to die????? Oh few no all organic things have carbon 14 in them. Enjoyed the tour of Chatham area though . Hope them guys never take a geiger counter on a plane with the rads they would see spike.
makes sense it would be under the water that would be top block radiation and also to keep it cool most waste of that type is stored under water.
Background radiation is up to 60 counts per minute. All you measured was background radiation.
20:28 if its an old dockyard then thats proberbly a boat pen. The bridge would have ben oarr of the gangplank. Explains the two sets of lifebuoy station.
Carbon 14 isn't dangerous.
exelente exploração
Nother banger of a video... the way you do your videos is epic
11.12....no corners on the railway...only curves....my boss told me that when i 1st started on the railway,,,Dover Priory..1982
Are you trying to type time stamps? Use: not . between minutes and seconds.
coud have pressed it into ceramic pellets and used in nuke power stations and its lower than 170 cpm it fine used to work contract work for bnfl
This isn't fissile material. It's of no use in a reactor.
It is quite common when you are buying a house, especially in posh areas to see in the covenant that you are not allowed to hang out washing,. those flats look expensive and the owners don't want washing lines of clothes ruining their sea views
11.10..its called a Monument...had information on it...ie..miles..up hill or down..
Nothing there guys!!
This is not chatham you are in This is Gillingham and i know this place when i was a kid i would go down there under that old bridge and there is a road above that bridge. There was an opening at the side of that bridge for anyone to go down there
Wow a Food store Asda is right next to that nuclear waste radiation site shocking
There's nothing here of concern whatsoever. Radiation levels are commensurate with natural background radiation. The bananas on Asda's shelves will be exhibiting more beta decay.
@@paulanderson79 still this is disgusting it's my own opinion
@@jayboy189 That's entirely reasonable. We're all entitled to our own opinions.
Personally I'd happily live right next door to a modern commercial power reactor. I have degree level physics btw.
Radiation and radioactive material risks are outrageously exaggerated by governments.
It's about power, money, and control.
'There's something here' lol hahaaha... it is CPM 50 in our house on an average day. We measured 500 for the whole flight to Gran Canaria.... I would say they are actually BELOW average readings hahaa!
17:35 such is todays world, and I'm just guessing here, but I reckon that ASDA store probably has a greater environmental impact than the dump site. Great vid lads, as always
tree fella very true
@@underwaterdick And Asda also sells ................... bananas. Which contain potassium 40. Which is a low level beta emitter. This video is extremely ill conceived and extremely misleading.
So come on then I live in Shoreham right next to fort Halstead so what do you know I’ve been told there are many tunnels around the area my elderly neighbours worked there during the war and after this is the Ministry defence technical department that’s where the London bus went
Lol the washing thing is because it's a marina, skiddy green Ys would be an eyesore.
Equipment List for Future Explores of Nuclear Dumps Sites: Geiger counter, camera, warm clothes, iodine pills, lead lined underwear, etc.
Those readings are actually lower than normal background radiation guys
Don't introduce complicated concepts such as this. It'll confuse the target audience :)
@@paulanderson79👏👏👏👏👏🤭👍
I think Number 1 fan may have been effected by the radiation already because he looks totally different today.
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Hey folks! 😊
Great video, really enjoy it.